Hi Carolyn and Esther.

I have the Pages program. It won't open PDFs. After trying to get one open
in Pages recently, I wrote to the list and asked about it. Ishe said Pages
can only export to PDF. 

Thank you Esther for that reminder. I do interact with the text in preview.
Reading by line works until I want to start examining a line one character
at a time. Then It starts reading way at the top of the document, which
Simon rightly dubbed a nuisance. I'll try again with PDFs that are not
available on iBookas epub files, but I will go with the iPod for reading the
epubs. It would be a lot better than having 2 laptops eradiating my mid
section at the same time and far less unwieldy. Again, thank you all for
your patience and willingness to help and for taking the time to post such
detailed messages.

Tony Hernandez
http://dutyofman.net/
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His
commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every
work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether
it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14)

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of carolyn Haas
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: extremely frustrated re: reading pfd files

Hi Tony:
People have done well with getting preview to do this.  I haven't ever done
well with pdf documents.  However, the Pages program will also work with
pdf.  And you can buy just that app from the mac store, which you'll find in
your Apple menu, (vo-shift-M and vo-arrow down to mac store.

HTH

Carolyn

On Apr 23, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I've ben trying all day to get various programs to work well reading PDFs
on the Mac and have gotten no where fast. The programs I've tried are Adobe
reader 10, Stanza, Skim, Preview, Safari, and Text Edit. These each have
bugs that either make the  document unreadable or difficult to read, or get
hung up. Skim completely freezes when I reach the end of a page and forces
me to close it out, which is unacceptable. Stanza does weird things with the
spacing and makes the information incomprehensible. Safari doesn't let me
interact with  the text properly  and insists on taking me to the very first
page no matter what part of the file is visible when I try to interact with
the text. Adobe is completely inaccessible. Text Edit just renders the file
as garbage characters. Preview doesn't track my location properly when I
read by line, so if I have to start reading by character, I'm completely
lost there too. I don't wish to pay for a pdf to text converter because I
don't have fond memories of such converters and I don't want to view the
information as text. Is there a program out there for the Mac that reads PDF
files, doesn't hang up or have quirky and distracting problems tracking the
cursor, etc.? So far my experience with viewing pdf files on the Mac has
been unhappy and worthy of 1 star. It's quite discouraging. I really, really
don't want to have to read all my Objective C stuff on Windows machines. I'm
at my wit's end with this and quite disappointed so far.
> 
> Tony Hernandez
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