Re: Pitchfork.com causes safari to crash with VO

[Andre Nuno Soares]

Greetings from a fellow music nut,

The problem is with the navigation links at the top, if you immediately jump to 
the first header Safari doesn't crash.
Also, the ForkCasts section isn't accessible, or rather the videos aren't, as 
it uses an embedded  flash player, and Flash isn't accessible with VO.


HTH,
André
PS: I really, really wish Safari's plugin system could support NoScript, as 
most of VO/Safari problems seem to be around javascript.

On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:

> Hello again listers,
> 
> Pitchfork.com is a music criticism website that I sometimes read.
> However, when I go there on my Mac with VO, I can't seem to navigate
> past the first couple of links before Safari crashes.  Starting from
> the top of the page, after the "playlist", I hear list end, and when I
> try to go further it always crashes.  Does this happen to anyone else?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Eric
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Colin M]

Hi all!
I've had no trouble on M.facebook so far today!
I do not know what difference it make's  but those of you having this problem 
on your version can you get to your liked pages via the friends link!
I still can here!
But some others said they have to do a search for there's! where they are!
And if those of you having that problem also have the pages thing it might be 
facebook locally to you!
Colin

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The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!

On 5 Mar 2011, at 04:36, Eric Oyen wrote:

> its the latest safari build (development). 
> it handles some problems better than safari stable does. be aware, it also 
> has its own problems.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
> 
>> After seeing webkit mentioned several times on here, I was going to
>> ask what it is.  I googled it and took a quick look at the main page.
>> I'm a little hesitant to download it until I read a little more about
>> it.  What should I do with it exactly?
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> On 3/4/11, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> the other Eric here.
>>> I was getting that almost all the time USING webkit. whatever Facebook has
>>> done appears to be hitting all versions of safari with voiceover.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I have. It appears facebook is having issues again. Have you tried webkit
 to see if th problem goes away
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
 
> I was just on the Facebook mobile site and clicked the "delete" button
> on a message in my inbox.  After I clicked the button, Voiceover began
> saying "Safari busy" whenever I tried to press a key.  It did this for
> at least a minute, sometimes saying "Safari ready" and then "Safari
> busy" again a second or two later.  I have had this problem once or
> twice before, but this was the first time I have had it consistently.
> I turned my Mac off, took it home, and tried to delete another message
> only to encounter the same problem.  Could anyone tell me why these
> "Busy" messages are used?  I've never encountered anything like this
> on an iPhone, iPad or PC.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Eric
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Re: Is there a command to announce the time on a Mac?

[Andre Nuno Soares]

Hello Neil/Colin,

My bad, I forgot cursor wrapping was an option in VO. Since in QuickNav the 
left an right arrow keys are the same as VO + left or right keys, the behavior  
will depend on your configuration.

BTW, this option is configured in Voice Over Utility, Navigation category, 
"allow cursor wrapping".

Personally I prefer to have it disabled as I feel it gives a more physical 
layout of the screen, and I don't get lost in an Infinite Loop :-)


André

On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> Colin,
> 
> I have cursor wrapping enabled and also have quick nav on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:53, Colin M wrote:
> 
> Hi Neil!
> Like me Andre must have cursor wrapping off!
> or something because like Andre if I have quick nav on it does not wrap but 
> it does without quick nav!
> Or are you not using quick nav! :]
> Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:21, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> 
>> Andre,
>> 
>> The wrapping does work with Quick Nav enabled, I just did it to confirm 
>> before writing!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> Talks List Administrator
>> 
>> Twitter @NeilBarnfather
>> 
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>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
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>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 23:12, Andre Nuno Soares wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Just to add to what Donna and Colin said, the fastest way to get the date 
>> and time without the keyboard commander is to press Control F8 and then left 
>> arrow.
>> Control F8 (or VO M, M) jumps you to the status bar, where you have icons 
>> for clock, battery, bluetooth, etc.
>> Pressing left arrow once puts you on the clock icon.
>> Note that in fact the clock icon is the last one on the row, and the left 
>> arrow wraps around to the last position. This doesn't happen if you have 
>> QuickNav on.
>> 
>> 
>> HTH,
>> André
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Colin M wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Eric!
>>> You can enable keyboard commander and allow vo to be controlled by apple 
>>> scripts!
>>> 1, open vo utility vo+f8
>>> 2, scroll until you get to the vo controlled by apple scripts button and 
>>> check it!
>>> 3, go to the table and interact with it and scroll down to commanders and 
>>> then stop interacting!
>>> 4, scroll the the keyboard tab and check it then scroll the enable button 
>>> and check that!
>>> 5, you will now need to pick which option key you would like to use it 
>>> should be set on the right one but you can select the left one if you 
>>> prefer!
>>> 6, if you then scroll to the table of items and interact with it you will 
>>> see some preset scripts one of which is read time using the command [ in my 
>>> case ] right option+t!
>>> you will also have the option to make your own shortcuts and seeing you've 
>>> got a mbp there should be trackpad options as well!
>>> anyway I hope thats some help!
>>> Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> 
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 22:30, Eric Brinkman wrote:
>>> 
 Hi listers,
 
 I've had my macbook for a few months now, searched the voiceover help
 and listened to a few of the podcasts on blindcooltech.  But I've
 found no info on how I can have VO tell me the time.  The only
 time-related voice feature I've found is the ability to announce the
 time on the quarter-hour, half-hour, or hour in the settings.  Is
 there a way to have the time announced when I want to hear it?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[erik burggraaf]

It's because the subway system in Toronto is dubbed "the rocket" affectionately 
or not as you prefer.

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On 2011-03-05, at 1:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Wow, Pocket Rocket, really?
> 
> :)
> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded 
>>> My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
>>> in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
>>> specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
>>> until such accessibility worked properly.
>>> 
>>> At iTunes: >> mt=8>
>>> 
>>> My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
>>> certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
>>> as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
>>> (as most blinks in Toronto will be).
>>> 
>>> Interested? Drop a line to .
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Ray Foret Jr]

I noticed the very same thing just last night myself.


Sincerely,
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On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Not that it is a great fix, but I have found that when I click on the 
> "comments" link, then toggle voiceover off and back on again with command+F5, 
> I can add a comment as normal.  While still annoying, at least it makes 
> commenting doable.  I use the mobile site, btw.   
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> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I had difficulties with FaceBook last night on the mobile site in WebKit.  I 
>> would press VO/space on the see more stories link and it would do nothing.  
>> It was as if I hadn't done a thing. I also noticed that when I wanted to 
>> comment, I could press the comment link and it would take forever for the 
>> page of comments to come up.  I got annoyed and got off FaceBook.  I'm going 
>> to see if it's still acting up tonight.  
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I have. It appears facebook is having issues again. Have you tried webkit 
>>> to see if th eproblem goes away
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
>>> 
 I was just on the Facebook mobile site and clicked the "delete" button
 on a message in my inbox.  After I clicked the button, Voiceover began
 saying "Safari busy" whenever I tried to press a key.  It did this for
 at least a minute, sometimes saying "Safari ready" and then "Safari
 busy" again a second or two later.  I have had this problem once or
 twice before, but this was the first time I have had it consistently.
 I turned my Mac off, took it home, and tried to delete another message
 only to encounter the same problem.  Could anyone tell me why these
 "Busy" messages are used?  I've never encountered anything like this
 on an iPhone, iPad or PC.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: separate user accounts on iPad?

[Andre Nuno Soares]

Hello Donna,

No, the most you can do is activate restrictions, but those are meant more like 
parental control or to make sure someone you lend your device to doesn't do 
something you don't want them to.

Still, might be useful to make sure your husband doesn't use the iPad to check 
Cristiano Ronaldo's girlfriend in the latest Sports Illustrated :-)


An envious portuguese,
André

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> Hi all,
> 
> My husband has a shot at getting an ipad one at really great price.  We're 
> discussing whether it could be a shared device.  Does anyone know if you can 
> create separate user accounts on an iPad?
> TIA,
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reading attachments in mail

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hi all,
i have an e-mail with a couple of word files attached. but vo also says its an 
attached image. when i do a quick look attachment, and try to open one of them, 
nothing seems to happen. all i hear is html. can someone tell me what's going 
on? thanks.

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Re: reading attachments in mail

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You have to interact with the html area to see the document.  It should work 
just fine.

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On 2011-03-05, at 7:44 AM, Denise Avant wrote:

> hi all,
> i have an e-mail with a couple of word files attached. but vo also says its 
> an attached image. when i do a quick look attachment, and try to open one of 
> them, nothing seems to happen. all i hear is html. can someone tell me what's 
> going on? thanks.
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Re: reading attachments in mail

[Cheok Cheng Ann]

Hi,

This is Cheng Ann. i am a new comer  to this list, Can someone help me to go 
into quick look to read the attachments? Thank you.
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> You have to interact with the html area to see the document.  It should work 
> just fine.
> 
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> 
>> hi all,
>> i have an e-mail with a couple of word files attached. but vo also says its 
>> an attached image. when i do a quick look attachment, and try to open one of 
>> them, nothing seems to happen. all i hear is html. can someone tell me 
>> what's going on? thanks.
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

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I haven't found anything to consistently work around the "See more stories" 
link.  However, several times I have clicked on it, then began reading back and 
forth a bit with vo+right or left arrows, and magically, it will begin reading 
more stories.  Although, it doesn't work every time for me, and toggling vo off 
and back on again doesn't seem to have the same effect.  I'll just have to keep 
playing with it.

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On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> I noticed the very same thing just last night myself.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Not that it is a great fix, but I have found that when I click on the 
>> "comments" link, then toggle voiceover off and back on again with 
>> command+F5, I can add a comment as normal.  While still annoying, at least 
>> it makes commenting doable.  I use the mobile site, btw.   
>> 
>> --
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>> Phone:   (972) 989-3894
>> Email:   kc5...@gmail.com
>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:  kc5gni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> I had difficulties with FaceBook last night on the mobile site in WebKit.  
>>> I would press VO/space on the see more stories link and it would do 
>>> nothing.  It was as if I hadn't done a thing. I also noticed that when I 
>>> wanted to comment, I could press the comment link and it would take forever 
>>> for the page of comments to come up.  I got annoyed and got off FaceBook.  
>>> I'm going to see if it's still acting up tonight.  
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I have. It appears facebook is having issues again. Have you tried webkit 
 to see if th eproblem goes away
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
 
> I was just on the Facebook mobile site and clicked the "delete" button
> on a message in my inbox.  After I clicked the button, Voiceover began
> saying "Safari busy" whenever I tried to press a key.  It did this for
> at least a minute, sometimes saying "Safari ready" and then "Safari
> busy" again a second or two later.  I have had this problem once or
> twice before, but this was the first time I have had it consistently.
> I turned my Mac off, took it home, and tried to delete another message
> only to encounter the same problem.  Could anyone tell me why these
> "Busy" messages are used?  I've never encountered anything like this
> on an iPhone, iPad or PC.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Eric
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Re: Accessible MUD client

[Chris Norman]

Hiya all,
Thanks for the replies.

I feared there wouldn't be anything! :-D It's at times like these,
when I think I should really be spending my time learning objective c
LOL.

Ah well, if anyone ever finds one, then please post it here, as it
seems a few people would be interested.

Cheers,

-- Chris.

On Mar 5, 4:03 am, Greg Aikens  wrote:
> Hi Jane,
> Could you provide more info about Nuntius?  The version I found online is 1.0 
> and looks like it has been around since 2003 or so.  It is also shareware 
> with a 30 day trial.  After that it costs $10.  
>
> Upon loading this software I also had to install Rosetta, which apparently it 
> needed to run correctly.  
>
> When I open it up though it continues to freeze up.  Do you have a more 
> recent version than the one I am finding?
>
> Any tips would be great.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Jane wrote:
>
>
>
> > I use Nuntius.  It's a free program. No, it doesn't have all the macros, so 
> > far as I am aware, but it uses your system voice to read the screen so you 
> > can follow along and type in information.
>
> > Jane
>
> > On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>
> >> Hi Chris,
> >> I'm afraid the answer to your question, as far as I'm aware, is no.  I, 
> >> too, would love an accessible mud client for the Mac.  Unfortunately, none 
> >> seems to exist, though I have heard contradictory rumblings that some work 
> >> was underway.  For the moment I use VIPMud with Jaws in VmWare FUsion, a 
> >> hardly ideal solution.
> >> Sorry to disappoint,
> >> Zack.
> >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Chris Norman wrote:
>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> Not sure if this has been asked before, but I can't find anything in the 
> >>> archives.
>
> >>> Does anyone know of an accessible MUD client for Mac OS X?
>
> >>> I've used TT++, but it was a little bit dodgy to use, because VoiceOver 
> >>> gets interrupted all the time, instead of doing what (Dare I say it???), 
> >>> Jaws does, and keeps talking regardless.
>
> >>> Cheers,
>
> >>> Take care,
>
> >>> Chris Norman
> >>> Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
> >>> Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]
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Re: reading attachments in mail

[erik burggraaf]

When you have a message with an attachment,
Press enter to open the message in it's own window.
Press control option left arrow until you hear slideshow button.
Press control option space.
What happens next depends on the nature of the attachment.  PDF, word, and RTF 
files open in an html area which you need to interact with to read the contents.
Sound files supported on mac OS such as wav and mp3 start to play.
When you are finished with an attachment press space bar or command W.

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On 2011-03-05, at 8:43 AM, Cheok Cheng Ann wrote:

>   Hi,
> 
> This is Cheng Ann. i am a new comer  to this list, Can someone help me to go 
> into quick look to read the attachments?   Thank you.
> Regards,
> 
> Cheok Cheng Ann
> cheokcheng...@gmail.com
> http://www.chengann.com
> 
> On 05-Mar-2011, at 8:49 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> You have to interact with the html area to see the document.  It should work 
>> just fine.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
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>> 
>> On 2011-03-05, at 7:44 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>> 
>>> hi all,
>>> i have an e-mail with a couple of word files attached. but vo also says its 
>>> an attached image. when i do a quick look attachment, and try to open one 
>>> of them, nothing seems to happen. all i hear is html. can someone tell me 
>>> what's going on? thanks.
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RE: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[Cameron]

Hi.

 

Pocket rocket.  That's priceless!  If I had an award for best app name, it
would be the recipient.

 

Good luck with your tests.

 

Cameron.

 

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of carolyn Haas
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:59 AM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

 

 

 

Begin forwarded 

My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
until such accessibility worked properly.

At iTunes: 

My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
(as most blinks in Toronto will be).

Interested? Drop a line to .

 

 

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Re: What FTP clients do you use on your mac?

[Chris Snyder]

I use Cute FTP. It has a 30 day free trial, and then you must pay for it. It is 
totally accessible so far as I can tell. It works very well.

Friendly,
Chris

On Mar 5, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Victor Tsaran wrote:

> Hello,
> For some reason, Snow Leopard's built-in "Connect to server" command, CMD+K, 
> does not connect me to many FTP sites that I need to go to. I can't figure 
> out why.
> The question is: can you recommend an accessible FTP client for Mac? I tried 
> Filezilla but it is not accessible at all.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> Vic
> 
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> Check out my new album on iTunes at
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Trade in Macbook Air toward a Macbook Pro?

[Eric Brinkman]

I bought the 13-inch Macbook Air sorta on impulse when it came out at
the end of October as I was itching to try a Mac.  However, now I'm
thinking that I should've purchased a Macbook Pro, since I'd really
like to use it as my primary computer.  I was just looking at expercom
which seems to have a trade-in program that seems promising.  Has
anyone dealt with them or know of any other options that might be of
use to me?

Thanks in advance.

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itunes and apps question

[Denise Avant]

hello all,
i have synced my iphone including apps. yet. when i pass over the apps in 
itunes, it says 4 unplayed. what does this mean?

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Re: itunes and apps question

[Mary Otten]

I think the 4 unplayed means you have 4 apps that have updates ready for you to 
get.

Mary

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Re: Accessible MUD client

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

The other day, just on a whim, I signed into my old account on TinyTim, a MUSH, 
just from Telnet in Terminal.  VO read all incoming text, and it was pretty 
easy to review the screen.  So, while I hear Nuntius is accessible, can't you 
just use Telnet?


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Re: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[Scott Granados]

Hahahha that's fantastic.

The Pocket Rocket in the US is a vibrator that's marketed with that name.  I 
forget who it was but there were some porn stars that were marketing that to 
women in the US.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:17 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> It's because the subway system in Toronto is dubbed "the rocket" 
> affectionately or not as you prefer.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> 
> On 2011-03-05, at 1:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Wow, Pocket Rocket, really?
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded 
 My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
 in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
 specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
 until such accessibility worked properly.
 
 At iTunes: 
 
 My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
 certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
 as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
 (as most blinks in Toronto will be).
 
 Interested? Drop a line to .
 
>>> 
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RE: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[Cameron]

Hi.  Yes, The company Doc Johnson came out with the original but now it
refers to a certain toy category as opposed to a specific product.

 

Anyways, I'm guessing this may very well be the last post on this as we're
now deep in the waters of the off topic ocean.

 

Cameron.

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

 

Hahahha that's fantastic.

 

The Pocket Rocket in the US is a vibrator that's marketed with that name.  I
forget who it was but there were some porn stars that were marketing that to
women in the US.

 

 

On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:17 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:





It's because the subway system in Toronto is dubbed "the rocket"
affectionately or not as you prefer.

 

Best,

 

Erik Burggraaf

User support consultant,

Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,

1-888-255-5194

http://www.erik-burggraaf.com  

 

On 2011-03-05, at 1:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:





Wow, Pocket Rocket, really?

 

:)

 

On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:





 

 

Begin forwarded 

My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
until such accessibility worked properly.

At iTunes: 

My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
(as most blinks in Toronto will be).

Interested? Drop a line to .

 

 

 

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Re: Accessible MUD client

[Eric Oyen]

who uses telnet anymore?
its a gaping security hole. use ssh instead.

-Eric

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> MUSH, just from Telnet in Terminal.  VO read all incoming text, and it was 
> pretty easy to review the screen.  So, while I hear Nuntius is accessible, 
> can't you just use Telnet?
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Importing Sent mail from Outlook to Apple Mail

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I just got my Mac Mini back from having all the data migrated from my 
old Sony.  Unfortunately  they missed my Sent Folder from Outlook 2002.  I 
really don't wan to send the two machines back to have them try again. My wife, 
did some reading and found that Thunderbird or O to M loaded on the PC could 
help fix this last remaining glitch.  Do any of you have recommendations on 
which of these, or other solutions could work?  Again, I don't want to redo the 
entire thing.  I just want to export one Sent Mail folder into a format that 
Mac Mail can import and turn into MBOX.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
 
Best,
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Re: itunes and apps question

[Jane]

When it says that, it means that you have to update the apps.  You need to go 
to the Apps section of your Library and tab till you hear whatever the number 
is and the word updates.  Hit vo-space on that button and it'll ask if you want 
to download all free updates.  Tell it yes, and then all the apps will be 
updated.

Jane


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> i have synced my iphone including apps. yet. when i pass over the apps in 
> itunes, it says 4 unplayed. what does this mean?
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Re: Accessible MUD client

[Jane]

It never occurred to me to use Telnet.  I'll have to try that and see if that 
works any better.

Jane


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> MUSH, just from Telnet in Terminal.  VO read all incoming text, and it was 
> pretty easy to review the screen.  So, while I hear Nuntius is accessible, 
> can't you just use Telnet?
> 
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Re: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[Karen Lewellen]

In fact, that was my first thought, someone making a reference to 
both...which had  me wondering just the sort of testing they wanted lol.

Kare

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, Scott Granados wrote:


Hahahha that's fantastic.

The Pocket Rocket in the US is a vibrator that's marketed with that name.  I 
forget who it was but there were some porn stars that were marketing that to 
women in the US.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:17 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:


It's because the subway system in Toronto is dubbed "the rocket" affectionately 
or not as you prefer.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
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On 2011-03-05, at 1:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:


Wow, Pocket Rocket, really?

:)

On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:




Begin forwarded

My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
until such accessibility worked properly.

At iTunes: 

My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
(as most blinks in Toronto will be).

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Re: What FTP clients do you use on your mac?

[Kevin Reeves]

I use transmit from Pannic. It's accessible and amazing. It costs though, but 
it's totally worth it. Hope that helps.

Kevin
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> For some reason, Snow Leopard's built-in "Connect to server" command, CMD+K, 
> does not connect me to many FTP sites that I need to go to. I can't figure 
> out why.
> The question is: can you recommend an accessible FTP client for Mac? I tried 
> Filezilla but it is not accessible at all.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
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The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Eric Brinkman]

After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?

Thanks,
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Ryan Mann]

If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac.  There are 
videos on the on-demand section of freespeech.org that I cannot play since they 
use flash.  The problem is that on some videos, there is a play button that you 
have to activate.  Since the button is a flash element, VoiceOver doesn't see 
it.
 
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:

> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
> 
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> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Zachary Kline]

Speaking personally, I don't use flash enough to mind its inaccessibility with 
VO.  Then again, its "accessibility" under Windows is pretty much a misnomer, I 
think.
Best,
Zack.
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> If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac.  There 
> are videos on the on-demand section of freespeech.org that I cannot play 
> since they use flash.  The problem is that on some videos, there is a play 
> button that you have to activate.  Since the button is a flash element, 
> VoiceOver doesn't see it.
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
> 
>> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
>> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
>> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
>> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
>> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
>> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
>> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
>> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Sarah Alawami]

Cn't you just use the flash extention for safari or would not that help?
On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:

> If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac.  There 
> are videos on the on-demand section of freespeech.org that I cannot play 
> since they use flash.  The problem is that on some videos, there is a play 
> button that you have to activate.  Since the button is a flash element, 
> VoiceOver doesn't see it.
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
> 
>> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
>> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
>> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
>> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
>> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
>> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
>> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
>> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Mike Arrigo]

Thi depends on what sites you need to use. I use youtube, and though this uses 
flash, I don't have to click anything, so it's not as big a deal. On the other 
hand, some sites require you to interact with flash content, and at this point, 
using windows is the only option. Let's hope that html 5 catches on, if it 
does, flash will hopefully be replaced with it.
On Mar 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:

> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Eric Oyen]

flash is completely inaccessible with vo. I have been bugging the devs over at 
adobe for a while now and all I get is form letter responses. I think they are 
actually bit-bucketing my e-nails instead of simply taking a look to see what 
they can do. 

I don't have a windows box here to dedicate to running something just to 
interact with flash. financially, its a waste of resources.

-Eric


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> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment.  Given  
differences in bandwidth and internet speed outside the u s, many will  
send me you tube videos.  I have taken to stripping the video and  
converting it to mp4 so that it can be viewed on all the i devices.   
My brother gives me grief because he thinks i should just embed the  
youtube video.  Problem is when i do that using my mac i lose the  
audio.  and trust me no ride is better without the music and screaming  
or laughing customers in the background.  a shame we have to have the  
problems with flash, but even if it goes away; it will go away very  
slowly.  take care, Max

On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Thi depends on what sites you need to use. I use youtube, and though  
this uses flash, I don't have to click anything, so it's not as big  
a deal. On the other hand, some sites require you to interact with  
flash content, and at this point, using windows is the only option.  
Let's hope that html 5 catches on, if it does, flash will hopefully  
be replaced with it.

On Mar 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:


After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?

Thanks,
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Ryan Mann]

Are you talking about Click to Flash?  I uninstalled that because I could never 
get it to work.  Whenever there was a flash video, there was supposed to be 
something I could interact with to find a play button, but I could never find 
that.

On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Cn't you just use the flash extention for safari or would not that help?
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac.  There 
>> are videos on the on-demand section of freespeech.org that I cannot play 
>> since they use flash.  The problem is that on some videos, there is a play 
>> button that you have to activate.  Since the button is a flash element, 
>> VoiceOver doesn't see it.
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
>> 
>>> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
>>> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
>>> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
>>> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
>>> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
>>> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
>>> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
>>> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Eric,

In March of 2010, almost a year ago, Adobe posted a blog announcing that the 
next "major" release of Flash Player will,  "...enable 
accessibility across all three major operating systems (Windows, Mac, and 
Linux)." . Apparently the next major release will be Flash 11, or 
whatever they choose to name the successor to Flash Player 10. Unfortunately, 
Adobe very recently released Flash Player 10.2 which leads me to think they are 
still far away from a new major release. I've pasted the link to this blog post 
and you might consider adding a comment to the bottom of the post, as it 
appears some other folks on this list have previously done.

http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html

Cheers,
Bryan

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> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Andre Nuno Soares]

On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment.

So you sell Pocket Rockets? :-)

Sorry, just couldn't resist crossing the wires on the 2 threads.


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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

thanks for the giggle;  doubt roller coasters and ferris wheels are in  
the same catagory. lol take care, max

On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote:



On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:


Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment.


So you sell Pocket Rockets? :-)

Sorry, just couldn't resist crossing the wires on the 2 threads.


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Re: Accessible MUD client

[Andre Nuno Soares]

Hello,

Several years ago I used Tiny Fugue in Unix machines, and it apparently also 
supports Mac OSX.
It runs in a terminal and I remember it had a mode where the screen wasn't 
split between display and input areas, so if telnet and terminal works well 
with VO tf should also.

Check it out at:
http://tinyfugue.sourceforge.net/

A quick google only found binaries for PPC, but still... hope this is useful to 
someone :-)


André

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> The other day, just on a whim, I signed into my old account on TinyTim, a 
> MUSH, just from Telnet in Terminal.  VO read all incoming text, and it was 
> pretty easy to review the screen.  So, while I hear Nuntius is accessible, 
> can't you just use Telnet?
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Mary Otten]

What about the safari extension that makes at least some flash accessible? 
That's what makes the samples on audible so easy to play compared to Windows, 
for instance.

Mary

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Re: Accessible MUD client

[Chris Norman]

Hi ALl,
I can use telnet, but that's a bit like saying "Why not use a piece of
paper, instead of a computer?" LOL. A MUD client gives you access to a
whole load of stuff you can't get with telnet, trigger, and aliases to
name just 2, although it does work, after a fashion. Voiceover chops
off the ends of lines though, as it starts reading new lines, as the
old ones disappear. In a lot of situations (more than not), this
behaviour would be unpleasant to say the least LOL.

MUD's don't run on SSH, so telnet will have to do! :P

Cheers all once again.

On Mar 5, 8:16 pm, Jane  wrote:
> It never occurred to me to use Telnet.  I'll have to try that and see if that 
> works any better.
>
> Jane
>
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>
>
>
> > The other day, just on a whim, I signed into my old account on TinyTim, a 
> > MUSH, just from Telnet in Terminal.  VO read all incoming text, and it was 
> > pretty easy to review the screen.  So, while I hear Nuntius is accessible, 
> > can't you just use Telnet?
>
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Re: some questions

[Andre Nuno Soares]

Hello Stephanie,

To enable automatic login", go to System Preferences, Accounts and interact 
with "Accounts, Groups and Login Options". Do VO down arrow until you get to 
Login Options, and stop interacting.
VO right arrow twice and you have the Automatic Login popup button, where you 
can choose which account to login automatically, or to set it to off.


Note that if you are sharing your Mac with them, it may be a better solution to 
disable automatic login, and for instance set their account with no password.


HTH,
André

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> Hi all,
> I have set up an account for our kids to use the mac.  However, how do I set 
> my macbook to log in to their account automaticY?
> Thanks,
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Re: some questions

[Stephanie Mitchell]

Thanks.
Now I have a new prom.  I set some parental controls.  Now safari 
isn't showing at all, not even in the list of apps? How do I get 
it back?

Thanks,
Steph


- Original Message -
From: Andre Nuno Soares To enable automatic login", go to System Preferences, Accounts 
and interact with "Accounts, Groups and Login Options".  Do VO 
down arrow until you get to Login Options, and stop interacting.
VO right arrow twice and you have the Automatic Login popup 
button, where you can choose which account to login 
automatically, or to set it to off.



Note that if you are sharing your Mac with them, it may be a 
better solution to disable automatic login, and for instance set 
their account with no password.



HTH,
André

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Hi all,
I have set up an account for our kids to use the mac.  However, 
how do I set my macbook to log in to their account automaticY?

Thanks,
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Re: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[Scott Granados]

I can see it now, the cross marketing possibilities alone are great.

"Feeling lost and stressed on the subway, break out your Pocket Rocket and let 
it set you free"


On Mar 5, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> In fact, that was my first thought, someone making a reference to 
> both...which had  me wondering just the sort of testing they wanted lol.
> Kare
> 
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Hahahha that's fantastic.
>> 
>> The Pocket Rocket in the US is a vibrator that's marketed with that name.  I 
>> forget who it was but there were some porn stars that were marketing that to 
>> women in the US.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:17 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> It's because the subway system in Toronto is dubbed "the rocket" 
>>> affectionately or not as you prefer.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-05, at 1:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Wow, Pocket Rocket, really?
 
 :)
 
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded
>> My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
>> in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
>> specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
>> until such accessibility worked properly.
>> 
>> At iTunes: > mt=8>
>> 
>> My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
>> certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
>> as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
>> (as most blinks in Toronto will be).
>> 
>> Interested? Drop a line to .
>> 
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Scott Granados]

I actually use windows when I need to access flash content.  I find having a 
Windows VM around invaluable.

On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> flash is completely inaccessible with vo. I have been bugging the devs over 
> at adobe for a while now and all I get is form letter responses. I think they 
> are actually bit-bucketing my e-nails instead of simply taking a look to see 
> what they can do. 
> 
> I don't have a windows box here to dedicate to running something just to 
> interact with flash. financially, its a waste of resources.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
> 
>> After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious
>> how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to
>> be.  I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found
>> unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws.  But
>> there is so much flash content on the web that total inaccessibility
>> on the Mac almost seems like a serious limitation.  Should I consider
>> putting Windows on my Mac just to have Flash support with a
>> screen-reader?  How do others feel about the flash inaccessibility?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Scott Granados]

I was going to go there but I figured I'd done enough damage to threads today.

Great call!

Long live the Pocket Rocket!

On Mar 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> thanks for the giggle;  doubt roller coasters and ferris wheels are in the 
> same catagory. lol take care, max
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment.
>> 
>> So you sell Pocket Rockets? :-)
>> 
>> Sorry, just couldn't resist crossing the wires on the 2 threads.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Need a blink using iOS in Toronto to test streetcar app

[Karen Lewellen]

ROFL!!!
the thing is, given the stress levels of even some ttc subway staff 
members, they might be offering you a  major contract for that ahem key to 
freedom.

Karen, who appreciates the major laughs.


On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, Scott Granados wrote:


I can see it now, the cross marketing possibilities alone are great.

"Feeling lost and stressed on the subway, break out your Pocket Rocket and let it 
set you free"


On Mar 5, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:


In fact, that was my first thought, someone making a reference to both...which 
had  me wondering just the sort of testing they wanted lol.
Kare

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, Scott Granados wrote:


Hahahha that's fantastic.

The Pocket Rocket in the US is a vibrator that's marketed with that name.  I 
forget who it was but there were some porn stars that were marketing that to 
women in the US.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:17 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:


It's because the subway system in Toronto is dubbed "the rocket" affectionately 
or not as you prefer.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-05, at 1:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:


Wow, Pocket Rocket, really?

:)

On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:




Begin forwarded

My friend just released an iApp that predicts arrivals for streetcars
in Toronto's public-transit system, the TTC. Pocket Rocket
specifically included VoiceOver accessibility and was in fact delayed
until such accessibility worked properly.

At iTunes: 

My friend and I are looking for a couple of testers in Toronto for
certain projects. No serious time commitment. We can gift you the app,
as they say. You have to be a reasonably comfortable user of the TTC
(as most blinks in Toronto will be).

Interested? Drop a line to .




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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Neil James]

Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and wouldn't 
mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13 inch air with 
the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the 13 inch air with 
the 128 gig ssd and 4 gb ram and it is screaming fast for what my needs are.

Neil


On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

> air has also got my vote. unless there is something that is both ipad and ios 
> specific you are hoping to accomplish...
> On 2011-03-04, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if you 
>> have the IPhone already.
>> 
>> Typing is easier for most with a real keyboard and you get the whole OSx 
>> environment.  The Air should also be more powerful.
>> 
>> Either device will be good but I'd vote air.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>> 
>>> hello all,
>>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
>>> light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
>>> get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port for 
>>> external media like a usb drive, is there?
>>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
>>> bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for external 
>>> media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on the ipad.
>>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
>>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know the 
>>> ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation ipad 
>>> users here.
>>> thanks.
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Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

[Kevin Shaw]

Flash sucks. It's memory intensive, proprietary and made by a company that 
doesn't care about universal design or accessibility. The odd time I've 
encountered a Flash intensive page, I've managed to find some type of 
workaround by getting the information from somewhere else or having someone 
fill me in on what I've missed. I'm not certain Flash has a future on the web, 
as HTML 5 and other open standards are being adopted quickly.

Having used JAWS on the Windows side with Flash intensive pages, I can 
certainly say I don't miss the experience, button labels notwithstanding. 
Perhaps, one day, Flash will be deprecated and coded into the pages of history 
alongside the Laserdisc, Betamax and 40 meg hard drives.

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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Denise Avant]

hi,
thanks everyone for the input. i will do the air, though i may wait to see if 
apple releases a new one.

On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Neil James wrote:

> Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and wouldn't 
> mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13 inch air 
> with the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the 13 inch air 
> with the 128 gig ssd and 4 gb ram and it is screaming fast for what my needs 
> are.
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
> 
>> air has also got my vote. unless there is something that is both ipad and 
>> ios specific you are hoping to accomplish...
>> On 2011-03-04, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if you 
>>> have the IPhone already.
>>> 
>>> Typing is easier for most with a real keyboard and you get the whole OSx 
>>> environment.  The Air should also be more powerful.
>>> 
>>> Either device will be good but I'd vote air.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>>> 
 hello all,
 i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
 light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
 get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port 
 for external media like a usb drive, is there?
 my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
 bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for external 
 media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on the ipad.
 that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
 well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know the 
 ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation ipad 
 users here.
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How can I maximize Safari?

[Eric Brinkman]

Since I have some limited vision, I like being able to see the web
pages I view, and I see best when they take up the entire screen.  On
the Mac, their doesn't seem to be a maximize button.  There's just the
minimize and zoom button.  Also, I find it sorta interesting that when
I first got my Mac, the Safari window was centered in the screen.
Then I did something (I think zoomed in and then out) and now the
window is always on the left side of the screen.  Is there a way I can
maximize it like hitting alt-space and then X in windows.

I apologize if I seem to be asking tons of questions that have been
asked 80 billion times by newbies.

Thanks,
Eric

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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Eric Brinkman]

Since Apple just released the latest Air at the end of October, I
wouldn't expect a new one anytime soon.

Eric

On 3/5/11, Denise Avant  wrote:
> hi,
> thanks everyone for the input. i will do the air, though i may wait to see
> if apple releases a new one.
>
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Neil James wrote:
>
>> Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and
>> wouldn't mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13
>> inch air with the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the
>> 13 inch air with the 128 gig ssd and 4 gb ram and it is screaming fast for
>> what my needs are.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
>>
>>> air has also got my vote. unless there is something that is both ipad and
>>> ios specific you are hoping to accomplish...
>>> On 2011-03-04, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>
 The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if
 you have the IPhone already.

 Typing is easier for most with a real keyboard and you get the whole OSx
 environment.  The Air should also be more powerful.

 Either device will be good but I'd vote air.




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> hello all,
> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that
> is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because
> you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is
> no port for external media like a usb drive, is there?
> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a
> little bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port
> for external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can
> have on the ipad.
> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know
> the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation
> ipad users here.
> thanks.
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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Isaac Obie]

Neil,
For  once, I agree with you 100%. Usually you and I are on opposite sides of 
the table! 
this is exactly the Air I plan to obtain later this year. Probably around 
summer's end.

Isaac
- Original Message - 
From: "Neil James" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2


Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and 
wouldn't mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13 
inch air with the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the 
13 inch air with the 128 gig ssd and 4 gb ram and it is screaming fast for 
what my needs are.


Neil


On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

air has also got my vote. unless there is something that is both ipad and 
ios specific you are hoping to accomplish...

On 2011-03-04, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if 
you have the IPhone already.


Typing is easier for most with a real keyboard and you get the whole OSx 
environment.  The Air should also be more powerful.


Either device will be good but I'd vote air.




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hello all,
i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that 
is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because 
you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is 
no port for external media like a usb drive, is there?
my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a 
little bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port 
for external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can 
have on the ipad.

that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know 
the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation 
ipad users here.

thanks.

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can't oppen safari

[Stephanie Mitchell]

I have a account set up.  Every thing is working fine, except I 
can't oppen safari.  I tried conmand o, and vo space.  It just 
won't come up.  It will if I'm logged in as the admin.

Any ideas how to fix this?
Thanks,
Steph

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Re: VmWare Fusion, xp and jaws

[David Tanner]

One solution is to use a number pad instead.



- Original Message - 
From: "Bart Bunting" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: VmWare Fusion, xp and jaws



Hi Everyone,

Just got my new macbook pro  yesterday.

I'm trying to configure a virtual machine using vmware fusion and jaws.

I have taken an existing xp machine from my linux install.  It appears
to boot up fine, and jaws starts talking, complaining about the video
intercept not being installed actualy :(.

My issue is of course that the capslock key is being captured by VO.
Seamingly the same for alt tab.

I initially tried virtualbox which is what I use under linux, but it's
sound performance was crap.

From the small amount of talking jaws has managed to do sound appears
quite clean in fusion.

Can anyone offer any hints as to how one gets around this capslock
issue?

I've done a bit of a search and have found a couple of people having the
same issue but no good work arounds.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Bart

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Re: VmWare Fusion, xp and jaws

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
I use a program someone else recommended on this list by the name of SharpKeys. 
 I remap left command to caps lock and use ctrl+escape to open the start menu 
instead of that key's normal function, which is the left Windows key.  Alt+tab 
is done with option+tab.
Googling for SharpKeys should get you a download link.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:40 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> One solution is to use a number pad instead.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Bart Bunting" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:54 PM
> Subject: VmWare Fusion, xp and jaws
> 
> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Just got my new macbook pro  yesterday.
>> 
>> I'm trying to configure a virtual machine using vmware fusion and jaws.
>> 
>> I have taken an existing xp machine from my linux install.  It appears
>> to boot up fine, and jaws starts talking, complaining about the video
>> intercept not being installed actualy :(.
>> 
>> My issue is of course that the capslock key is being captured by VO.
>> Seamingly the same for alt tab.
>> 
>> I initially tried virtualbox which is what I use under linux, but it's
>> sound performance was crap.
>> 
>> From the small amount of talking jaws has managed to do sound appears
>> quite clean in fusion.
>> 
>> Can anyone offer any hints as to how one gets around this capslock
>> issue?
>> 
>> I've done a bit of a search and have found a couple of people having the
>> same issue but no good work arounds.
>> 
>> Any assistance would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Bart
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Re: reading attachments in mail

[Robert Nelson]

Dear Denise,

I am totally blind now, so I don't have any use for the quick look button in 
mail.  According to the Mail Help topic it is used to view images or a slide 
show.  Well if it is a slide show or image  VoiceOver is not going to be able 
to read it.  It is possible that if the images have captions then VoiceOver may 
be able to read them, but I cannot help  with that.

If the attachment is a MicroSoft Word file it should end with a .doc file type. 
 If you click on it with the spacebar it should open in TextEdit and you should 
be able to read the file.

I hope this helps.

Sincerely Yours,
robert Nelson
   
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> hi all,
> i have an e-mail with a couple of word files attached. but vo also says its 
> an attached image. when i do a quick look attachment, and try to open one of 
> them, nothing seems to happen. all i hear is html. can someone tell me what's 
> going on? thanks.
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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Kaare Dehard]

I think that the refresh of the air was done last month, and they don't really 
sem to release new products in cycles shorter than yearly. If you can afford 
the waiting, it may be as early as next year before a new one comes out.
On 2011-03-05, at 8:41 PM, Denise Avant wrote:

> hi,
> thanks everyone for the input. i will do the air, though i may wait to see if 
> apple releases a new one.
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Neil James wrote:
> 
>> Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and wouldn't 
>> mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13 inch air 
>> with the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the 13 inch 
>> air with the 128 gig ssd and 4 gb ram and it is screaming fast for what my 
>> needs are.
>> 
>> Neil
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
>> 
>>> air has also got my vote. unless there is something that is both ipad and 
>>> ios specific you are hoping to accomplish...
>>> On 2011-03-04, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if 
 you have the IPhone already.
 
 Typing is easier for most with a real keyboard and you get the whole OSx 
 environment.  The Air should also be more powerful.
 
 Either device will be good but I'd vote air.
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
 
> hello all,
> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
> light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
> get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port 
> for external media like a usb drive, is there?
> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
> bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for 
> external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on 
> the ipad.
> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know 
> the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation 
> ipad users here.
> thanks.
> 
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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[David Tanner]

Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone or 
iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic MacBook Pro 13 
with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the new iPad is only a 
1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 13 has a lot faster 
processor than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher price 
for solid state memory instead of a hard drive.


The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about 
the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT 
would be as large in flat area as the iPad.




- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2


Me personally,

If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself bumping 
up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  Especially if you 
have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you really missing in not 
getting an iPad?


JMO

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296




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hello all,
i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port 
for external media like a usb drive, is there?
my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for external 
media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on the ipad.

that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know the 
ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation ipad 
users here.

thanks.

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Re: iOS 4.3 Personal Hotspot Wi-Fi Sharing Limited to Three Devices in Many Countries?

[David Tanner]

Any idea how these compare to MYFI.



- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 4.3 Personal Hotspot Wi-Fi Sharing Limited to Three Devices 
in Many Countries?



Yeah, I have an overdrive but canceled the service.  It worked ok, 
especially when stationary but when moving WIMAX sucks.  I kept dropping 
connections and other than checking mail at speed it wasn't that great.


Stationary though it was pretty fast.  I usually got around 6 megabits. 
I'm wondering what the 4G droid users will find since that uses WIMAX as 
well.




On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Actually I heard some not so good things about the sprint overdrive, from 
sprint's website? lol! they were customers posting reviews. and I think 
wimax would be cheaper in the end lol! we'll see. I don't need it now 
though.

On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Scott Granados wrote:


No ask away.

Aren't you using the Overdrive.  This might be a better replacement.

On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Ah thanks. I'm learning slowly. I am not going got get the hotspot 
thing but hopefully this asking of questions helps someone. lol!

On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:


No

It's a protocol, not an actual dialup modem.

On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


Oh yuck! so will you be limited to speed of dial up users then?

Take care.
On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

No no, you can connect your PC or other devices to the Internet 
through your phone using Bluetooth.  It's the dial up networking 
profile.



On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

bt keyboards don't cut in to the hotspot feature though. I know 
nothing about this kind of stuff. All i inow is it works lol! I had 
tu use a friend's wimax hotspot at a hotel. lol!

On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I think it's 3 WiFi devices, 2 bluetooth and the USB port with a 
total of 5 active at any one time.




On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

How many devices will at7t allow? and is this normal in other 
countries?


http://bit.ly/fUOhFW

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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Cheree]

Cheree Heppe here:
I like the IPad, actually.

I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, easy entre 
into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke chording and what seemed 
to me a quick start interface.

In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with much 
more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.

As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, true, but 
that's only a single dimension.

Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner"  wrote:

> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone or 
> iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic MacBook Pro 13 
> with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the new iPad is only a 1.0 
> gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 13 has a lot faster processor 
> than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher price for solid 
> state memory instead of a hard drive.
> 
> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about the 
> size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT would be 
> as large in flat area as the iPad.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
> 
> 
> Me personally,
> 
> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
> fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself bumping 
> up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  Especially if you 
> have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you really missing in not 
> getting an iPad?
> 
> JMO
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
> 
>> hello all,
>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
>> light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
>> get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port for 
>> external media like a usb drive, is there?
>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
>> bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for external 
>> media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on the ipad.
>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know the 
>> ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation ipad 
>> users here.
>> thanks.
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connecting my ThinkGeek keyboard

[Cheree]

This keyboard has a very long stand by time, so I don't turn it off.
When I first got it, I thought the keyboard had to be re-paired every time 
after it went to sleep.
Turns out that if I press the enter key, the keyboard wakes up in connected 
mode.

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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the screen room 
you wil have for braille right there.
On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> I like the IPad, actually.
> 
> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, easy 
> entre into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke chording and 
> what seemed to me a quick start interface.
> 
> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with much 
> more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.
> 
> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, true, 
> but that's only a single dimension.
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner"  wrote:
> 
>> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone or 
>> iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic MacBook Pro 13 
>> with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the new iPad is only a 
>> 1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 13 has a lot faster 
>> processor than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher price 
>> for solid state memory instead of a hard drive.
>> 
>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about 
>> the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT 
>> would be as large in flat area as the iPad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>> 
>> 
>> Me personally,
>> 
>> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
>> fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself bumping 
>> up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  Especially if you 
>> have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you really missing in not 
>> getting an iPad?
>> 
>> JMO
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>> 
>>> hello all,
>>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
>>> light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
>>> get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port for 
>>> external media like a usb drive, is there?
>>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
>>> bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for external 
>>> media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on the ipad.
>>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
>>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know the 
>>> ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation ipad 
>>> users here.
>>> thanks.
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Re: reading attachments in mail

[Denise Avant]

hi,
thanks. i had tried it and the file did not open which was why i thought i was 
suppose to use quick look attachment. but i can give your way another try 
because these are word docs.

On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:

> Dear Denise,
> 
> I am totally blind now, so I don't have any use for the quick look button in 
> mail.  According to the Mail Help topic it is used to view images or a slide 
> show.  Well if it is a slide show or image  VoiceOver is not going to be able 
> to read it.  It is possible that if the images have captions then VoiceOver 
> may be able to read them, but I cannot help  with that.
> 
> If the attachment is a MicroSoft Word file it should end with a .doc file 
> type.  If you click on it with the spacebar it should open in TextEdit and 
> you should be able to read the file.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Sincerely Yours,
> robert Nelson
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
> 
>> hi all,
>> i have an e-mail with a couple of word files attached. but vo also says its 
>> an attached image. when i do a quick look attachment, and try to open one of 
>> them, nothing seems to happen. all i hear is html. can someone tell me 
>> what's going on? thanks.
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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Cheree]

Cheree Heppe here:
When what comes out?

Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

On 05/03/2011, at 20:07, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the screen 
> room you wil have for braille right there.
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote:
> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> I like the IPad, actually.
>> 
>> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, easy 
>> entre into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke chording and 
>> what seemed to me a quick start interface.
>> 
>> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with much 
>> more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.
>> 
>> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, true, 
>> but that's only a single dimension.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cheree Heppe
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone or 
>>> iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic MacBook Pro 13 
>>> with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the new iPad is only a 
>>> 1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 13 has a lot faster 
>>> processor than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher 
>>> price for solid state memory instead of a hard drive.
>>> 
>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about 
>>> the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT 
>>> would be as large in flat area as the iPad.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Me personally,
>>> 
>>> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
>>> fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself 
>>> bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  
>>> Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you 
>>> really missing in not getting an iPad?
>>> 
>>> JMO
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>>> 
 hello all,
 i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
 light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
 get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port 
 for external media like a usb drive, is there?
 my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
 bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for external 
 media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on the ipad.
 that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
 well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know the 
 ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation ipad 
 users here.
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Nick Van Vlaenderen]

I noticed this problem as well a few weeks ago. Use the main site now although 
that seems to refresh every so often and puts me on a different part of the 
page for some reason. I'm sticking to Facely on my iPhone for now...

Nick
On 5 Mar 2011, at 14:55, Jenny Wood wrote:

> I haven't found anything to consistently work around the "See more stories" 
> link.  However, several times I have clicked on it, then began reading back 
> and forth a bit with vo+right or left arrows, and magically, it will begin 
> reading more stories.  Although, it doesn't work every time for me, and 
> toggling vo off and back on again doesn't seem to have the same effect.  I'll 
> just have to keep playing with it.
> 
> --
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> Jenny Wood
> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> I noticed the very same thing just last night myself.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>> 
>>> Not that it is a great fix, but I have found that when I click on the 
>>> "comments" link, then toggle voiceover off and back on again with 
>>> command+F5, I can add a comment as normal.  While still annoying, at least 
>>> it makes commenting doable.  I use the mobile site, btw.   
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Jenny Wood
>>> Phone:  (972) 989-3894
>>> Email:  kc5...@gmail.com
>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 I had difficulties with FaceBook last night on the mobile site in WebKit.  
 I would press VO/space on the see more stories link and it would do 
 nothing.  It was as if I hadn't done a thing. I also noticed that when I 
 wanted to comment, I could press the comment link and it would take 
 forever for the page of comments to come up.  I got annoyed and got off 
 FaceBook.  I'm going to see if it's still acting up tonight.  
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> I have. It appears facebook is having issues again. Have you tried webkit 
> to see if th eproblem goes away
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
> 
>> I was just on the Facebook mobile site and clicked the "delete" button
>> on a message in my inbox.  After I clicked the button, Voiceover began
>> saying "Safari busy" whenever I tried to press a key.  It did this for
>> at least a minute, sometimes saying "Safari ready" and then "Safari
>> busy" again a second or two later.  I have had this problem once or
>> twice before, but this was the first time I have had it consistently.
>> I turned my Mac off, took it home, and tried to delete another message
>> only to encounter the same problem.  Could anyone tell me why these
>> "Busy" messages are used?  I've never encountered anything like this
>> on an iPhone, iPad or PC.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Eric Brinkman]

When I first got my Mac, the main Facebook site didn't seem to work
too well with Voiceover.  It seems to work a little better now
although I still find it too cluttered which makes me not want to
check it regularly.

Eric

On 3/5/11, Nick Van Vlaenderen  wrote:
> I noticed this problem as well a few weeks ago. Use the main site now
> although that seems to refresh every so often and puts me on a different
> part of the page for some reason. I'm sticking to Facely on my iPhone for
> now...
>
> Nick
> On 5 Mar 2011, at 14:55, Jenny Wood wrote:
>
>> I haven't found anything to consistently work around the "See more
>> stories" link.  However, several times I have clicked on it, then began
>> reading back and forth a bit with vo+right or left arrows, and magically,
>> it will begin reading more stories.  Although, it doesn't work every time
>> for me, and toggling vo off and back on again doesn't seem to have the
>> same effect.  I'll just have to keep playing with it.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jenny Wood
>> Phone:   (972) 989-3894
>> Email:   kc5...@gmail.com
>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:  kc5gni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed the very same thing just last night myself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>
 Not that it is a great fix, but I have found that when I click on the
 "comments" link, then toggle voiceover off and back on again with
 command+F5, I can add a comment as normal.  While still annoying, at
 least it makes commenting doable.  I use the mobile site, btw.

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 Facebook/Twitter/Skype:kc5gni




 On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> I had difficulties with FaceBook last night on the mobile site in
> WebKit.  I would press VO/space on the see more stories link and it
> would do nothing.  It was as if I hadn't done a thing. I also noticed
> that when I wanted to comment, I could press the comment link and it
> would take forever for the page of comments to come up.  I got annoyed
> and got off FaceBook.  I'm going to see if it's still acting up
> tonight.
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
>> I have. It appears facebook is having issues again. Have you tried
>> webkit to see if th eproblem goes away
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
>>
>>> I was just on the Facebook mobile site and clicked the "delete"
>>> button
>>> on a message in my inbox.  After I clicked the button, Voiceover
>>> began
>>> saying "Safari busy" whenever I tried to press a key.  It did this
>>> for
>>> at least a minute, sometimes saying "Safari ready" and then "Safari
>>> busy" again a second or two later.  I have had this problem once or
>>> twice before, but this was the first time I have had it consistently.
>>> I turned my Mac off, took it home, and tried to delete another
>>> message
>>> only to encounter the same problem.  Could anyone tell me why these
>>> "Busy" messages are used?  I've never encountered anything like this
>>> on an iPhone, iPad or PC.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Eric
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Sarah Alawami]

Why not use the friend mail? it's a tone easier.

Take care.
On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:

> When I first got my Mac, the main Facebook site didn't seem to work
> too well with Voiceover.  It seems to work a little better now
> although I still find it too cluttered which makes me not want to
> check it regularly.
> 
> Eric
> 
> On 3/5/11, Nick Van Vlaenderen  wrote:
>> I noticed this problem as well a few weeks ago. Use the main site now
>> although that seems to refresh every so often and puts me on a different
>> part of the page for some reason. I'm sticking to Facely on my iPhone for
>> now...
>> 
>> Nick
>> On 5 Mar 2011, at 14:55, Jenny Wood wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't found anything to consistently work around the "See more
>>> stories" link.  However, several times I have clicked on it, then began
>>> reading back and forth a bit with vo+right or left arrows, and magically,
>>> it will begin reading more stories.  Although, it doesn't work every time
>>> for me, and toggling vo off and back on again doesn't seem to have the
>>> same effect.  I'll just have to keep playing with it.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Jenny Wood
>>> Phone:  (972) 989-3894
>>> Email:  kc5...@gmail.com
>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 I noticed the very same thing just last night myself.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
 
> Not that it is a great fix, but I have found that when I click on the
> "comments" link, then toggle voiceover off and back on again with
> command+F5, I can add a comment as normal.  While still annoying, at
> least it makes commenting doable.  I use the mobile site, btw.
> 
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> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I had difficulties with FaceBook last night on the mobile site in
>> WebKit.  I would press VO/space on the see more stories link and it
>> would do nothing.  It was as if I hadn't done a thing. I also noticed
>> that when I wanted to comment, I could press the comment link and it
>> would take forever for the page of comments to come up.  I got annoyed
>> and got off FaceBook.  I'm going to see if it's still acting up
>> tonight.
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I have. It appears facebook is having issues again. Have you tried
>>> webkit to see if th eproblem goes away
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
>>> 
 I was just on the Facebook mobile site and clicked the "delete"
 button
 on a message in my inbox.  After I clicked the button, Voiceover
 began
 saying "Safari busy" whenever I tried to press a key.  It did this
 for
 at least a minute, sometimes saying "Safari ready" and then "Safari
 busy" again a second or two later.  I have had this problem once or
 twice before, but this was the first time I have had it consistently.
 I turned my Mac off, took it home, and tried to delete another
 message
 only to encounter the same problem.  Could anyone tell me why these
 "Busy" messages are used?  I've never encountered anything like this
 on an iPhone, iPad or PC.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Eric
 
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Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

[Sarah Alawami]

hatpics. I c can't spell it but it is suposed to be a new form of tactile 
representation.
On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Cheree wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> When what comes out?
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 05/03/2011, at 20:07, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the screen 
>> room you wil have for braille right there.
>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote:
>> 
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> I like the IPad, actually.
>>> 
>>> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, easy 
>>> entre into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke chording and 
>>> what seemed to me a quick start interface.
>>> 
>>> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with much 
>>> more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.
>>> 
>>> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, true, 
>>> but that's only a single dimension.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cheree Heppe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner"  wrote:
>>> 
 Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone or 
 iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic MacBook Pro 
 13 with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the new iPad is only 
 a 1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 13 has a lot faster 
 processor than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher 
 price for solid state memory instead of a hard drive.
 
 The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about 
 the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT 
 would be as large in flat area as the iPad.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
 Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
 
 
 Me personally,
 
 If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
 fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself 
 bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  
 Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you 
 really missing in not getting an iPad?
 
 JMO
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
 
> hello all,
> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is 
> light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can 
> get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port 
> for external media like a usb drive, is there?
> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a little 
> bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port for 
> external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can have on 
> the ipad.
> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know 
> the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first generation 
> ipad users here.
> thanks.
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Christina]

Ok, I've had major problems with the mobile Facebook site the past few days.  
It's like they changed things.  I used to get a new page if I clicked "see more 
stories".  Now it just expands the page and I have to vo plus right or down 
arrow down until I get to the next stories.  This means I have to arrow through 
the ones I just read.  What a pain.  I also get the busy busy busy thing.  The 
thing I found that helps is turning VO off and then back again.  Someone 
already mentioned this already but I just wanted to say that this is the only 
work around I have found.

What is Friend Mail?

Christina
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> Why not use the friend mail? it's a tone easier.
> 
> Take care.

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Re: iOS 4.3 Personal Hotspot Wi-Fi Sharing Limited to Three Devices in Many Countries?

[Scott Granados]

I haven't used the new 4G MyFi yet.

Ricardo was using the Clear Spot and got the same results while moving though.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:20 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> Any idea how these compare to MYFI.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: iOS 4.3 Personal Hotspot Wi-Fi Sharing Limited to Three Devices 
> in Many Countries?
> 
> 
>> Yeah, I have an overdrive but canceled the service.  It worked ok, 
>> especially when stationary but when moving WIMAX sucks.  I kept dropping 
>> connections and other than checking mail at speed it wasn't that great.
>> 
>> Stationary though it was pretty fast.  I usually got around 6 megabits. I'm 
>> wondering what the 4G droid users will find since that uses WIMAX as well.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually I heard some not so good things about the sprint overdrive, from 
>>> sprint's website? lol! they were customers posting reviews. and I think 
>>> wimax would be cheaper in the end lol! we'll see. I don't need it now 
>>> though.
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 No ask away.
 
 Aren't you using the Overdrive.  This might be a better replacement.
 
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Ah thanks. I'm learning slowly. I am not going got get the hotspot thing 
> but hopefully this asking of questions helps someone. lol!
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> No
>> 
>> It's a protocol, not an actual dialup modem.
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh yuck! so will you be limited to speed of dial up users then?
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 No no, you can connect your PC or other devices to the Internet 
 through your phone using Bluetooth.  It's the dial up networking 
 profile.
 
 
 On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> bt keyboards don't cut in to the hotspot feature though. I know 
> nothing about this kind of stuff. All i inow is it works lol! I had 
> tu use a friend's wimax hotspot at a hotel. lol!
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I think it's 3 WiFi devices, 2 bluetooth and the USB port with a 
>> total of 5 active at any one time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> How many devices will at7t allow? and is this normal in other 
>>> countries?
>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/fUOhFW
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Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

[Sarah Alawami]

Friend mail is facebook via email.. I had a link to the public beta but I seem 
to have lost it but google  the friend mail and maybe hopefully you will find 
some info out there.

Take care.
Sarah Alawami

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On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Christina wrote:

> Ok, I've had major problems with the mobile Facebook site the past few days.  
> It's like they changed things.  I used to get a new page if I clicked "see 
> more stories".  Now it just expands the page and I have to vo plus right or 
> down arrow down until I get to the next stories.  This means I have to arrow 
> through the ones I just read.  What a pain.  I also get the busy busy busy 
> thing.  The thing I found that helps is turning VO off and then back again.  
> Someone already mentioned this already but I just wanted to say that this is 
> the only work around I have found.
> 
> What is Friend Mail?
> 
> Christina
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Why not use the friend mail? it's a tone easier.
>> 
>> Take care.
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DVD Ripping software on the Mac?

[James Malone]

Hi guys. Does anyone know of a good DVD ripper for the Mac? I've tried 
handbreak, but it all seems to put it in to 1 big chunky file. I have a TV 
series I'd like to rip, and I'd like each EP to be in a seperate file

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Re: DVD Ripping software on the Mac?

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello. try selecting each title and it should rip it in to seprate tracks. I 
wripped 3  disks that way once.

S
On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:39 PM, James Malone wrote:

> Hi guys. Does anyone know of a good DVD ripper for the Mac? I've tried 
> handbreak, but it all seems to put it in to 1 big chunky file. I have a TV 
> series I'd like to rip, and I'd like each EP to be in a seperate file
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