Re: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Howell
Sarah that is not accurate. NLS in fact could develop an app and you can bet 
this is being quietly explored. NLS may not publicly saying little or nothing, 
but there has been messages posted that would suggest different. So, never say 
never and here is something else to consider. It would be more cost-effective 
for NLS to leverage the iOS platform then producing players. And imagine if 
they sold the app for $20 and the money they could make, but getting ahead of 
myself. :) They may not be able to make a profit, but would help them in these 
difficult budget times.


Scott
Sent from my iPhone. 

On Mar 1, 2011, at 16:01, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> No. nls is under a different set of legislation then rfbd so they in theory 
> will never develop an app for iphone.
> 
> Take care all.
> Sarah Alawami
> 
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> On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> can we hope for nls. probably not, but it's a thought.
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Brian Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> I think this is an awesome development, and easily worth $20 -- I haven't
>>> tried the app yet, but I will... It just might bring me back to RFB&D again,
>>> a service I haven't used in many  years.  I just hope it isn't under-cooked,
>>> that they didn't roll it out too soon and that it won't be as functional as
>>> it could be.
>>> 
>>> Brian Miller
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:47 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App
>>> 
>>> It's a lot cheaper than a Victor Reader Stream, and it means being able to
>>> do more of what you need to do on one device.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App
>>> 
>>> 
 tht's true. the bookshare app also will cause $20 so they would spend $40 
 in totle for the bookshare and the rfbd apps. Ouch for some of us.
 On Feb 28, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> I am in the same boat. I am holding out for the Bookshare app. Still,
> this will be a huge help to all the students who already have iPods
> and iPhones; no more needing a special player just to read books.
> 
> On 2/28/11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> Thanks. I can't myself justify the $20 cost as I only use them about 1 
>> time
>> a year or so but ah well.
>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is the direct link:
>>> http://www.rfbd.org/apple/
>>> 
>>> On 2/28/11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 REad more at the link below. you need to click on the blind bargains 
 post
 though to find the info. good luck.
 
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Re: clicking on emails in header field

2011-03-02 Thread Donna Goodin
Sorry, Sarah, that was my bad.  I get so used to writing VO that i wasn't 
paying attention.
Donna
On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Ah! Thanks! I didn't even think of trying that. I guess I"m still a bit 
> stupid when it comes to this beast I'm still learning after a year! lol!
> 
> Thanks and hope that helps someone else, or anyone else. Sorry about the 
> thread hijacking but i"m someone who likes order. I also mod a 3 lists and do 
> the same lol!
> 
> 
> Take are all and thanks again! I"ll put this in my list of somethings to 
> memorise.On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
> 
>> VO + Shift + right arrow does not select the from field for me.  
>> ButCtrl+shift+right arrow does.  Once it is Highlighted, the context menu 
>> comes up fine.  
>> 
>> Greg
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I did. I vo arrowed to it then routed to it with vo cmd f5 and clicked on 
>>> it and got booted. I got this to wirn a few months ago before In 
>>> reinstalled the system but ever since then I have had nothign but fucus 
>>> issues with mail and vo.
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Sarah,
 
 You have to make sure that the address is highlighted, otherwise it won't 
 work.
 Donna
 On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Oh to the person that said they could hit vo shift m on the email in the 
> headers I just tried that and it broke. that is, nothing happened. and 
> when I routed mouse to it with vo cmd f5 and hit vo space I heard new 
> line and got booted back in to the message. I don't know if I need to 
> reinstall mail or what but yeah that has got to stop. i miss that ability.
> 
> Tale care all.
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> I like it the way it currently is now.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cheree Heppe
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Pete Nalda" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:58
>> Subject: Re: setup for replying to list
>> 
>> 
>> Ok here's what I do.  One list I'm on only defaults to the sender only.  
>> If I want to reply to the group I have to navigate up to the to field 
>> then change it.  Couldn't this be done by first copying the senders 
>> address then replacing the group address with that?
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So, I Believe I hve an iTunes problem, but not sure

2011-03-02 Thread Christine Grassman
So, yesterday for the first time since getting my MacBook a week and a half 
ago, I authorized and attempted to sync my iPhone. I removed some albums from 
my sync list, and attempted to sync.  While I was making the changes, itunes 
was horribly slow and kept giving me the message "iTunes busy". Then, I hit 
sync, and received a message that the sync could not take place because the 
iPhone was not connected.  Yet, it showed up in the Sources list. Also, the 
capacity bar insisted I was 1.24 gigs over, but I had *removed* items and I had 
over 5 gig available before.  Is this an iTunes issue, a connection issue, or 
an iPhone issue? What should I do or attempt?
Thanks.
Christine

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Re: FileMaker

2011-03-02 Thread Slau
I used to use FileMaker back in the early nineties and it was fully accessible. 
I'm sorry to say that, as of my most recent check of the demo version, 
FileMaker isn't accessible with voiceOver. Their Bento product is quite 
accessible and is considerably less expensive. It takes some experimentation to 
wrap one's head around how it works but I would imagine that reading the manual 
goes a long way toward explaining the program and how it organizes data.

Slau

On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> FileMaker seems to be well reviewed and respected as a database/server  app 
> on Mac OS X. 
> 
> I'm getting it. I'm wondering if anyone has  experience with FileMaker  and 
> could provide pointers with  
> VoiceOver
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin
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Re: FileMaker

2011-03-02 Thread rossy
hi ,
can you confirm that file maker 11 is not accessible con vo ?
thank you in advance .
rossy 

Il giorno 02/mar/2011, alle ore 14.54, Slau ha scritto:

> I used to use FileMaker back in the early nineties and it was fully 
> accessible. I'm sorry to say that, as of my most recent check of the demo 
> version, FileMaker isn't accessible with voiceOver. Their Bento product is 
> quite accessible and is considerably less expensive. It takes some 
> experimentation to wrap one's head around how it works but I would imagine 
> that reading the manual goes a long way toward explaining the program and how 
> it organizes data.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> 
>> FileMaker seems to be well reviewed and respected as a database/server  app 
>> on Mac OS X. 
>> 
>> I'm getting it. I'm wondering if anyone has  experience with FileMaker  and 
>> could provide pointers with  
>> VoiceOver
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Kevin
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Re: blackboard and Safari

2011-03-02 Thread Bejarano, Rafael P.
If you install Windows on your Mac, using Bootcamp, then you can use System 
Access to Go (SA to Go) for your screen reader. SA to go is free and quite easy 
to learn. This is how I solved my problem.

Good luck to you.
Rafael
On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Ah. I wonder whgy some web btowsers only support windows based things and not 
> others? Ah well. looks like I have to borrow  someone's computer for a 
> semester lol!
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
> 
>> The problem is that Angel does not support Safari. In other words, it's not 
>> a VoiceOver issue. If Explorer or FireFox were accessible with VO, you would 
>> be able to use them, since Angel supports these browsers.
>> 
>> In the short-term, I'm afraid your only options are to use Windows or, 
>> maybe, Ubuntu Linux. In the longer-term, it may be worth our while to write 
>> to Angel, asking them to begin supporting Safari. Something to consider, 
>> anyway.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> Rafael
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> OO! I didn't know that. We use angel for our coarse  stuff. and I don't 
>>> have my bootcamp partition anymore. So is there a department I can contact  
>>> to ask if angel could be made more accessibil?
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
>>> 
 I also would be very interested to know if Blackboard can be accessed with 
 Safari. Angel, another online course management system, is not accessible 
 with Safari, so I am having to use Windows and the System Access screen 
 reader to use Angel. If Blackboard is not accessible in Safari, perhaps 
 your student can access it in Windows.
 
 Rafael Bejarano
 On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
> Hi everyone:
> I have a student who needs to access coursework and videos with 
> blackboard and Safari.  He's trying to learn the mac and actually do 
> coursework at the same time, and having a bit of a truffle with this 
> part. I'm simply not familiar, and didn't find anything solid enough in 
> the archives.
> If anyone knows of either a quick tutorial, or is familiar enough to help 
> a nooby  Please email me off list.  TIA 
> 
> Carolyn H
> 
> chaas0...@gmail.com
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Re: 10.6: Enable AutoAnswer in FaceTime for the Mac

2011-03-02 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.
Where can I get Facetime?
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 02/03/2011 kl. 08.55 skrev Sarah Alawami:

> Here's a little jem someone might want to use if they  have facetime on their 
> mac.
> 
> http://bit.ly/hPIdzk
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[Mac-cessibility News] Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic Releases iOS App

2011-03-02 Thread Maccessibility
Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic Releases iOS App

Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic (RFB&D) has released an iOS application. 
The RFB&D Audio app is available for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. It provides
access to RFB&D's downloadable DAISY formatted books. RFB&D members can explore
RFB&D’s library of more than 64,000 audio books that are designed for people
with print and learning [...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/03/02/recording-for-the-blind-and-dyslexic-releases-ios-app/

The Mac-cessibility Network
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Re: blackboard and Safari

2011-03-02 Thread Joseph Norton

You might also try NVDA.

It's speech is not the best, but, you don't have to rely on Serotek's 
servers to be available.



- Original Message - 
From: "Bejarano, Rafael P." 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: blackboard and Safari


If you install Windows on your Mac, using Bootcamp, then you can use System 
Access to Go (SA to Go) for your screen reader. SA to go is free and quite 
easy to learn. This is how I solved my problem.


Good luck to you.
Rafael
On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Ah. I wonder whgy some web btowsers only support windows based things and 
not others? Ah well. looks like I have to borrow  someone's computer for a 
semester lol!


Take care.
On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

The problem is that Angel does not support Safari. In other words, it's 
not a VoiceOver issue. If Explorer or FireFox were accessible with VO, 
you would be able to use them, since Angel supports these browsers.


In the short-term, I'm afraid your only options are to use Windows or, 
maybe, Ubuntu Linux. In the longer-term, it may be worth our while to 
write to Angel, asking them to begin supporting Safari. Something to 
consider, anyway.


Cordially,
Rafael
On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

OO! I didn't know that. We use angel for our coarse  stuff. and I don't 
have my bootcamp partition anymore. So is there a department I can 
contact  to ask if angel could be made more accessibil?

On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

I also would be very interested to know if Blackboard can be accessed 
with Safari. Angel, another online course management system, is not 
accessible with Safari, so I am having to use Windows and the System 
Access screen reader to use Angel. If Blackboard is not accessible in 
Safari, perhaps your student can access it in Windows.


Rafael Bejarano
On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:


Hi everyone:
I have a student who needs to access coursework and videos with 
blackboard and Safari.  He's trying to learn the mac and actually do 
coursework at the same time, and having a bit of a truffle with this 
part. I'm simply not familiar, and didn't find anything solid enough 
in the archives.
If anyone knows of either a quick tutorial, or is familiar enough to 
help a nooby  Please email me off list.  TIA


Carolyn H

chaas0...@gmail.com

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some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
According to the article found at
http://www.tuaw.com/
Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For me, 
the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are coming 
to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of languages 
other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English reading 
voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of what's on the 
IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.

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[Mac-cessibility News] Random House Titles Come to iBooks

2011-03-02 Thread Maccessibility
Random House Titles Come to iBooks

The last significant hold out from Apple's iBooks store, Random House, has
decided to shift to the agency model now used by Apple and others and make their
titles available.
This is a fantastic development for visually impaired book lovers, providing
unparalleled access to published works to them at the same time as said works
are [...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Mary,
I highly doubt Apple will retire Alex.  They invested a great deal of time and 
money into producing a high quality voice.  It would seem wasted to remove it 
now.
Best,
Zack.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> According to the article found at
> http://www.tuaw.com/
> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
> will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
> inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
> ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are coming 
> to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
> languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
> reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
> what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi Mary:
I recently wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding voicing.  I inquired about 
the possibility of the Alex voice being made available for the iPad.  The 
response I got was encouraging in that Accessibility indicated they had gotten 
a lot of good feedback about Alex, and they couldn't comment as to whether he'd 
be brought over there.  Nothing in their response seemed to point toward  his 
being retired, but instead, they , mentioned his popularity.:)

So, there's a bit of hope for us Alex fans.



Carolyn
On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> According to the article found at
> http://www.tuaw.com/
> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
> will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
> inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
> ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are coming 
> to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
> languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
> reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
> what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Hall
I am not a mac user, but I, too, emailed apple about porting Alex over
to the iOS platform since he sounds so much better than Karen or
Samantha. I hope they do not get rid of him, and I doubt they will. I
heard a rumor (a tweet, actually) that he has been improved in the
newest 10.7 beta; not quite as choppy on some syllables and overall
smoother. Remember, everyone, to email accessibil...@apple.com to
express your desire that Alex not be retired, just to be on the safe
side!

On 3/2/11, carolyn Haas  wrote:
> Hi Mary:
> I recently wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding voicing.  I inquired about
> the possibility of the Alex voice being made available for the iPad.  The
> response I got was encouraging in that Accessibility indicated they had
> gotten a lot of good feedback about Alex, and they couldn't comment as to
> whether he'd be brought over there.  Nothing in their response seemed to
> point toward  his being retired, but instead, they , mentioned his
> popularity.:)
>
> So, there's a bit of hope for us Alex fans.
>
>
>
> Carolyn
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
>> According to the article found at
>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of
>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For
>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an
>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that
>> Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least,
>> vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English
>> voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices
>> that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for
>> speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a
>> non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can
>> Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male
>> voice.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>>
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak or 
Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way better in 
terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
/Krister

2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:

> According to the article found at
> http://www.tuaw.com/
> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
> will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
> inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
> ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are coming 
> to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
> languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
> reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
> what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread erik burggraaf
Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, but 
I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those voices sound 
like complete garbage.

Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak or 
> Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way better 
> in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
> /Krister
> 
> 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
> 
>> According to the article found at
>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
>> will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
>> inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
>> ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are 
>> coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
>> languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
>> reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
>> what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Howell
Guys relax. I heard a sample of the voices and sorry I should have posted the 
article, but someone will. I have to say the new voices sound great and 
certainly no worse than Alex. So, I think we're going to be in for a real 
treat. In fact the voices will be a download option as well, so you won't have 
to have every voice on your machine.
I really think folks will like them. Of course I don't mind the Samantha voice 
on the iOS platform all that much, but hell she grows on you after a while; 
sort of like mold. :)
Scott





On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, 
> but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those voices 
> sound like complete garbage.
> 
> Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
> Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak or 
>> Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way better 
>> in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
>> 
>>> According to the article found at
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
>>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
>>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
>>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that 
>>> Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, 
>>> vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English 
>>> voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices 
>>> that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for 
>>> speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a 
>>> non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can 
>>> Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male 
>>> voice.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Scott,
I looked for the links for the voice samples and did not find them. The tuaw 
article has a link to the source, and that source supposedly had links for 
samples. I went there, found the article and the link to comments but not the 
voice links. Where did I go wrong?

Mary

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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
yeagh I had a chance to hear the voice in action and all I have to say is wow. 
they some how made the samantha voice very crisp and bright. She sounds better 
then on the ios device. Alex also sounds more bright as well.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Guys relax. I heard a sample of the voices and sorry I should have posted the 
> article, but someone will. I have to say the new voices sound great and 
> certainly no worse than Alex. So, I think we're going to be in for a real 
> treat. In fact the voices will be a download option as well, so you won't 
> have to have every voice on your machine.
> I really think folks will like them. Of course I don't mind the Samantha 
> voice on the iOS platform all that much, but hell she grows on you after a 
> while; sort of like mold. :)
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, 
>> but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those voices 
>> sound like complete garbage.
>> 
>> Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
>> Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak 
>>> or Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way 
>>> better in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
>>> 
 According to the article found at
 http://www.tuaw.com/
 Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
 There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
 languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
 me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
 improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that 
 Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, 
 vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English 
 voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices 
 that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for 
 speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a 
 non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can 
 Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male 
 voice.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: 10.6: Enable AutoAnswer in FaceTime for the Mac

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
YOu can  get it from the app store. it is $0.99.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> Where can I get Facetime?
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> Den 02/03/2011 kl. 08.55 skrev Sarah Alawami:
> 
>> Here's a little jem someone might want to use if they  have facetime on 
>> their mac.
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/hPIdzk
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Re: clicking on emails in header field

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hey don't worry about it. We're all on this list to learn and teach. Once again 
thanks for the tip and I'll burn  it to my brain  or teach it in a podcast.

Lol!
On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Sorry, Sarah, that was my bad.  I get so used to writing VO that i wasn't 
> paying attention.
> Donna
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Ah! Thanks! I didn't even think of trying that. I guess I"m still a bit 
>> stupid when it comes to this beast I'm still learning after a year! lol!
>> 
>> Thanks and hope that helps someone else, or anyone else. Sorry about the 
>> thread hijacking but i"m someone who likes order. I also mod a 3 lists and 
>> do the same lol!
>> 
>> 
>> Take are all and thanks again! I"ll put this in my list of somethings to 
>> memorise.On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>> 
>>> VO + Shift + right arrow does not select the from field for me.  
>>> ButCtrl+shift+right arrow does.  Once it is Highlighted, the context menu 
>>> comes up fine.  
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I did. I vo arrowed to it then routed to it with vo cmd f5 and clicked on 
 it and got booted. I got this to wirn a few months ago before In 
 reinstalled the system but ever since then I have had nothign but fucus 
 issues with mail and vo.
 On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Sarah,
> 
> You have to make sure that the address is highlighted, otherwise it won't 
> work.
> Donna
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Oh to the person that said they could hit vo shift m on the email in the 
>> headers I just tried that and it broke. that is, nothing happened. and 
>> when I routed mouse to it with vo cmd f5 and hit vo space I heard new 
>> line and got booted back in to the message. I don't know if I need to 
>> reinstall mail or what but yeah that has got to stop. i miss that 
>> ability.
>> 
>> Tale care all.
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> 
>>> I like it the way it currently is now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cheree Heppe
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Pete Nalda" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:58
>>> Subject: Re: setup for replying to list
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok here's what I do.  One list I'm on only defaults to the sender only. 
>>>  If I want to reply to the group I have to navigate up to the to field 
>>> then change it.  Couldn't this be done by first copying the senders 
>>> address then replacing the group address with that?
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Re: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yeah that's true. Well we'll see. In my head why not just combine  3 three 
technologies in to 1 app? but maybe in the future that might happen to.

Yeha the big boss though thought did tell us that it was not possibil to do 
this but maybe they have some tuff up there slevs lol!

Take care all and enjoy reading this school year. I am. Well not really. 
Contracts and more contracts.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Sarah that is not accurate. NLS in fact could develop an app and you can bet 
> this is being quietly explored. NLS may not publicly saying little or 
> nothing, but there has been messages posted that would suggest different. So, 
> never say never and here is something else to consider. It would be more 
> cost-effective for NLS to leverage the iOS platform then producing players. 
> And imagine if they sold the app for $20 and the money they could make, but 
> getting ahead of myself. :) They may not be able to make a profit, but would 
> help them in these difficult budget times.
> 
> 
> Scott
> Sent from my iPhone. 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 16:01, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> No. nls is under a different set of legislation then rfbd so they in theory 
>> will never develop an app for iphone.
>> 
>> Take care all.
>> Sarah Alawami
>> 
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>> http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my 
>> info is below.
>> 
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>> 
>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>> 
>>> hi,
>>> can we hope for nls. probably not, but it's a thought.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Brian Miller wrote:
>>> 
 I think this is an awesome development, and easily worth $20 -- I haven't
 tried the app yet, but I will... It just might bring me back to RFB&D 
 again,
 a service I haven't used in many  years.  I just hope it isn't 
 under-cooked,
 that they didn't roll it out too soon and that it won't be as functional as
 it could be.
 
 Brian Miller
 
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:47 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App
 
 It's a lot cheaper than a Victor Reader Stream, and it means being able to
 do more of what you need to do on one device.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Sarah Alawami" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:18 PM
 Subject: Re: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App
 
 
> tht's true. the bookshare app also will cause $20 so they would spend $40 
> in totle for the bookshare and the rfbd apps. Ouch for some of us.
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> I am in the same boat. I am holding out for the Bookshare app. Still,
>> this will be a huge help to all the students who already have iPods
>> and iPhones; no more needing a special player just to read books.
>> 
>> On 2/28/11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> Thanks. I can't myself justify the $20 cost as I only use them about 1 
>>> time
>>> a year or so but ah well.
>>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Here is the direct link:
 http://www.rfbd.org/apple/
 
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> REad more at the link below. you need to click on the blind bargains 
> post
> though to find the info. good luck.
> 
> http://post.ly/1gT21  #a11y #accessibility #news
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iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
What will the new update include? read on:

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Installing Dragon Dictates

2011-03-02 Thread Adam
Hi All,
I just got Dragon Dictates and I can't get it to give me any
instructions on installation.  On line all the set ups I've seeing
involve a lot of dragging and dropping.  any one out there know how to
do this in a more blind friendly manner?

Adam

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Podcast Question

2011-03-02 Thread Jane
I subscribed to the following:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/mage/irish

but there's only from episode 60 to the present.  That said, I can download the 
rest, so I am slowly doing so.

I download the files, rename them slightly, and then change the media type to 
Podcast once they are added to the library. (Wish there were a way to do that 
*outside* of iTunes.)  So I have two podcast feeds with the same name, and I 
would prefer they all be in one feed.  Is there ant wat to accomplish thism or 
am I just stuck with two separate things named Irish and Celtic Music Podcast?

Jane

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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi all,

For one thing, the voices on the mac will be of a higher quality than on iOS. 
Apple insider has samples of the voices. I didn't think much of Jill, but 
samantha sounded better than she has on any previous platform, and tom was just 
fabulous. I think Tom has a good chance of replacing alex for me. For those 
having trouble finding the samples, I think having click to flash installed 
makes this kind of thing much easier. Here's the link to the article.
HTTP://Dlvr.it/J1fXf

Also, I would think that everyone waiting for Alex on iOS will be slightly 
disappointed. He will be pleasant to hear for sure, but not up to the standards 
we expect of that voice on the mac. I would guess it would be a marginal 
improvement over samantha at best. Remember, quality is somewhat limited by the 
lower specifications of the device. This is why, for example, Samantha sounds 
so terrible on the Victer reader stream and so good on the iPhone.

Nobody need worry about Alex going anywhere. Apple knows Alex is the most 
popular voice.

Justin

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I am not a mac user, but I, too, emailed apple about porting Alex over
to the iOS platform since he sounds so much better than Karen or
Samantha. I hope they do not get rid of him, and I doubt they will. I
heard a rumor (a tweet, actually) that he has been improved in the
newest 10.7 beta; not quite as choppy on some syllables and overall
smoother. Remember, everyone, to email accessibil...@apple.com to
express your desire that Alex not be retired, just to be on the safe
side!

On 3/2/11, carolyn Haas  wrote:
> Hi Mary:
> I recently wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding voicing.  I inquired about
> the possibility of the Alex voice being made available for the iPad.  The
> response I got was encouraging in that Accessibility indicated they had
> gotten a lot of good feedback about Alex, and they couldn't comment as to
> whether he'd be brought over there.  Nothing in their response seemed to
> point toward  his being retired, but instead, they , mentioned his
> popularity.:)
> 
> So, there's a bit of hope for us Alex fans.
> 
> 
> 
> Carolyn
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> According to the article found at
>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of
>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For
>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an
>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that
>> Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least,
>> vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English
>> voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices
>> that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for
>> speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a
>> non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can
>> Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male
>> voice.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Email signatures

2011-03-02 Thread louie
Hi all,
Is there a application that will  add a saying to my e-mail signature? This 
saying should change for every new e-mail.
Thanks
louie
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Howell
Mary I stumble over it as a set of video controls. THis was an Apple insider 
article.
Scott





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> Hi Scott,
> I looked for the links for the voice samples and did not find them. The tuaw 
> article has a link to the source, and that source supposedly had links for 
> samples. I went there, found the article and the link to comments but not the 
> voice links. Where did I go wrong?
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: accessible utility to remove unused preference files?

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Hey there

1. Open the application.
2. Either his vo m or hit command o. THen browse to the program e.g 
applications>skype.
3. Navigate to open, do vo space. This should bring you to a window with all 
the info about what is being delted, the option to delete it, etc. There it a 
zap button at the end, and you should be able to click it and everything should 
be removed with a most commical cartoonish sound.

hope that helps some
Tyler
On 2011-02-27, at 6:53 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> I haven't figured out how to get Ap Zapper to work...I always figured it 
> wasn't accessible.  Can you provide any steps/information?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-02-27, at 5:27 PM, T wood wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A program called app zapper. Will cost a bit, but the first fie zapps are 
>> free...plus the sound effects are brilliant. 
>> 
>> On 2011-02-27, at 12:01 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Listers.
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has found an accessible utility to remove unused 
>>> preference files from one's library?
>>> I looked to see if onyx could do this but it doesn't look like it can.
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> Matthew Campbell
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Re: ripping audio book from cd

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
What is this script called? I'm curious.

On 2011-02-27, at 9:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> There is  a script that will then merge the audio files at least the ones you 
> select and convert them to m4a. you can then use another script to make them 
> book markable  and it will reimport them in to the audio books playlist. I 
> found both scripts on the net.
> 
> Take care.
> Sarah Alawami
> 
> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
> http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my 
> info is below.
> 
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> 
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> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
> 
> On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:31 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> I like max for this.  Either use max to integrate with your ITunes library, 
>> or use it to rip the audio book cd's to one file per and then use audiobook 
>> builder to get them into your library.  Then there is my solution which is 
>> to bypass ITunes altogether and have full control over my files, but that's 
>> just me.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-02-27, at 9:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> Ok, I checked this in archives, and it seems like there's not a simple way 
>>> to rip a multi cd book using just itunes.  What I tried to do was to import 
>>> the CD's and then change their track names and sorting.  But, no luck 
>>> there.  If anyone can suggest the simplest and most foolproof way to do 
>>> this, I'd be ever grateful.
>>> TIa and enjoy your evening/morning/day.:)
>>> 
>>> Carolyn H
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Re: Anyone managed successfully drag and drop with Voiceover?

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Ok, just to say I love you.

I've been trying to find a way to do this exact thing for months. 

Now, *runs and snatches up text edit*. 

thanks so much. 
On 2011-02-28, at 8:38 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hello Victor.
> I use drag and drop all of the time in iTunes to drag and drop music and 
> playlists on to my iPhone.
> Here are the steps I use to do this.
> First I move to what I want to drag. Cursor tracking is always on.
> Next, I highlight what I want with the mouse by pressing VO + Command + f5. 
> VO will not always report what is highlighted properly but just ignore it's 
> ramblings.
> THe next thing I will do is press VO +command + shift + space. THis performs 
> a mouse down command.
> Next, I will turn off cursor tracking, navigate to where I wish to drop the 
> music or playlists. I use the VO and arrow keys to do this since cursor 
> tracking is turned off.
> Finally I will use VO + Command+ F5 to move the mouse to the drop point. You 
> will here a small wooshing sound if you listen hard enough.
> Finally, I'll press VO + Command + Shift + Space to release the mouse and 
> drop the dragged object.
> This works 100% of the time.
> This can be a bit tricky to master at first because of the number of steps 
> that need to be taken.
> Please let me know if this helps.
> Please note. I've only used this in itunes so Whether or not this works the 
> same way in other apps I don't know.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On 2011-02-28, at 3:16 AM, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I know there are methods for dragging and dropping items with Voiceover, 
>> however, did anyone actually managed to get them work? In particular, 
>> Voiceover tends to cancel the drag-n-drop action once I, say, interact with 
>> an object which I am dragging into.
>> For example, what would be the steps to drag an item from one table into 
>> another?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Vic
>> 
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price of mac minis won't go down: was Re: waiting on an adapter

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
SOrry to butt in here - but...

I'm trying to find a mini for my Mom that's a few years old. Guess what?

I might as well buy the thing brand new! These things are still 400+ dollars.

That says something about how apple makes quality products.
On 2011-02-28, at 10:25 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
> 
> Congrats on your new mini! I have one and love it. Here's one thing you might 
> consider trying If the sluggishness of VO becomes too painful before your VGA 
> adapter arrives: If you have a TV or other device with an HDMI input, you 
> might try connecting it to your mini via the HDMI port that comes standard on 
> the latest minis. I haven't personally tried to do this as I have a monitor 
> with a DVI input and so I use the included HDMI to DVI adapter. If you do 
> decide to try this, here's an Apple knowledgebase article about the mid 2010 
> mini's HDMI capabilities:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4214
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Joseph Norton wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> I have just ordered a new Mac Mini and can't wait to try it out.  I saw one 
>> at the store in Chattanooga (a Best Buy store) and was impressed with the 
>> overall responsiveness of VoiceOver.  This, in spite of using a high-quality 
>> voice, such as Alex.  When I use a high-quality voice on Windows, I get no 
>> such performance. 
>> 
>> One small problem.
>> 
>> I don't have a display I can plug in.  I have a VGA monitor and have 
>> ordered, after the fact, the mini display port to vga adapter which should 
>> allow me to plug in my monitor once it arrives.
>> 
>> However, it most likely will arrive 3 or more days after the Mac Mini 
>> arrives here.
>> 
>> Mike arrigo has told me, already, that VoiceOver will perform sluggishly 
>> without a display connected.
>> 
>> Mike, feel free to chime in here, if you wish, but, input from other users 
>> is appreciated.
>> 
>> How sluggish will it be.  Will it be to the point that I need to go have a 
>> snack while I press arrow keys or perform VO commands, or, can I maybe live 
>> with it for 3 or 4 days?
>> 
>> Have any of you played with this and maybe gotten arround it, at least 
>> temporarily?
>> 
>> Any help is much appreciated.
>> 
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Hall
For what it's worth, I failed to find the samples as well. I saw the
article text, but nothing about flash or samples, just advertisements
above the article and unrelated information below.

On 3/2/11, Scott Howell  wrote:
> Mary I stumble over it as a set of video controls. THis was an Apple insider
> article.
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott,
>> I looked for the links for the voice samples and did not find them. The
>> tuaw article has a link to the source, and that source supposedly had
>> links for samples. I went there, found the article and the link to
>> comments but not the voice links. Where did I go wrong?
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Moving items in iTunes playlists

2011-03-02 Thread Chris Norman
Hiya all,
Is there a way with voiceover, using Drag and Drop or whatever, to move items 
up and down within iTunes playlists?

A couple of friends of mine want to start a disco, and I'm (for my sins), doing 
the DJ setup, so I need to set them up a playlist, we can use with DJ, to get 
the whole things running, but we'll need to add items into the middle of the 
playlist, whenever we add them into the set.

Is there a way to relyably do this with VoiceOver?

Cheers,

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Re: by way of introduction

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
It took quite a lot of getting used to for me. I went all out, getting the 15 
inch macbook pro mid 2010 model with the core i7. I love it. It gets better 
battery life than my eee pc 900ha netbook, and just feels so beautiful when I 
hold it. Also, it's stupid fast - I would like to see a windows 7 with the 
specs of this get 8 hours of battery life without wireless and bluetooth.

I'm also an xp user - I don't even own 7...aren't i wierd?

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> Hi:
>  
> My name is Joseph Norton, from Dalton, GA.
>  
> As i mentioned before, I have just ordered a new Mac Mini and am anxiously 
> awaiting delivery.
>  
> I have long been a DOS and Windows user and have had experience in Linux, 
> most notably the console mode.  While I have recently played around with ORCA 
> under X-Windows, I have mostly stuck to command-line stuff under Linux.
>  
> From some recent BlindCoolTech podcasts, (Thanks Mike), and from comments of 
> other happy Mac users of VoiceOver, I decided the time had come to learn a 
> new OS.  Also, the fact that I could just go out and buy the computer and not 
> have to spend a dime on another screen-reader was a big deciding factor.  Not 
> to mention the fact that, if I so desire, I can install the OS from scratch, 
> without sighted assistance, if I need to--and I probably will do it, just to 
> get the feel for it.  I may be a bit strange, but, I like to play with 
> installing an OS, trying different ways to configure it, and, even see how I 
> can have more than one OS on the same machine.
>  
> Back a few years ago, I had a machine with Windows 98 SE, Windows XP and 
> Linux.  It was so nice to know that, I had tools for accomplishing different 
> things in each OS, each with their own strengths and weaknesses.  I even had 
> drive images of different versions of Windows so I could troubleshoot.
>  
> One time, for example, I had a friend who spent two hours with AOL tech 
> support because he could not access the Internet through their service.  
> Since he was using Windows 95, I used by image of Windows 95 and was able to 
> duplicate his problem.  I was able to tell him how to access hidden older 
> versions of the AOL software on the CD's they used to send out, which fixed 
> his problem.  The AOL support person did not have a clue what my friend 
> should do.  I had him up and running in 10 minutes or so, after I found out 
> what the problem was.
>  
> Now, I hope to add experience with MAC OS to my learnings.
>  
> I have seen posts on this list and you all seem to be very helpful.  Keep up 
> the good work.  We newbie's out there may need a hint or two along the way.  
> I have already learned some things I might need to know.
>  
> This is probably the longest post from me that you will see.  I apologize if 
> I have taken more time than necessary, but, I will keep it more to the point 
> in the future.
>  
> Again, I can't wait to dive into this new experience.
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Re: ripping audio book from cd

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello loook for join totegher and make book markable at

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/

Take care.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Tyler wood wrote:

> What is this script called? I'm curious.
> 
> On 2011-02-27, at 9:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> There is  a script that will then merge the audio files at least the ones 
>> you select and convert them to m4a. you can then use another script to make 
>> them book markable  and it will reimport them in to the audio books 
>> playlist. I found both scripts on the net.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> Sarah Alawami
>> 
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>> http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my 
>> info is below.
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:31 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> I like max for this.  Either use max to integrate with your ITunes library, 
>>> or use it to rip the audio book cd's to one file per and then use audiobook 
>>> builder to get them into your library.  Then there is my solution which is 
>>> to bypass ITunes altogether and have full control over my files, but that's 
>>> just me.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-02-27, at 9:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys:
 Ok, I checked this in archives, and it seems like there's not a simple way 
 to rip a multi cd book using just itunes.  What I tried to do was to 
 import the CD's and then change their track names and sorting.  But, no 
 luck there.  If anyone can suggest the simplest and most foolproof way to 
 do this, I'd be ever grateful.
 TIa and enjoy your evening/morning/day.:)
 
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Re: Any hidden Gotchas when installing more RAM in a MacBook?

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Hey there.

Any idea where exactly you can get memory other than apple? I'd like to upgrade 
to 8 gb, but can't find the specified ram, and apples prices here in Canada are 
too crazy.

thanks
On 2011-03-01, at 6:24 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> You do not need to change anything on your Mac and you do not need to 
> reinstall windows. You only need to go into Fusion and edit the configuration 
> for the VM and give it more memory.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I was just at a MacShop the other day and bought more RAM (DDR3 variety) for 
>> my MacBook which I purchased two years ago. I currently have 2 GB of memory 
>> and will soon have 4 GB. 
>> 
>> I am wondering If I need to make any changes to Snow Leopard prior or after 
>> installing the new RAM. Will my system just boot up normally, or do I need 
>> to make other changes? I also have VMWare Fusion and would like to allocate 
>> more memory for XP, once the new memory has been installed.  Is this a 
>> straightforward process or will I need to re-install Windows XP under VMWare 
>> fusion?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: housekeping: set-up for replying to list

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
I agree with the below statement.

And not that I've seen this a lot, but you would think that, considering the 
volume of the list, the one liner messages could be avoided, if at all possible 
- imho, it is common sense.

Again this is just me. It will complicate more than it would solve.

On 2011-03-01, at 1:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I disagree, this is not consistent but is genearally backwards although lists 
> do it both ways.
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> With respect, I cannot agree.  I say that command+r should reply only to the 
>> sender and command+shift+r should reply to the list.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
>> 
>>> I personally would not like this at all. Most of the time, I want my reply 
>>> to go to the list. I think that the default for the reply hotkey should be 
>>> the most commonly preferred action. We would have people sending answers to 
>>> questions only to the original poster. It would have to be explained to 
>>> every new member that the reply button does not do what is generally 
>>> expected on a list of this type. Some people don't even read the welcome 
>>> message, since it's usually the same instructions. This would complicate 
>>> more than it would solve. Please do not change how list replies work just 
>>> to avoid a few one-line replies coming to the list.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:09 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex:
>>> I think that would be a great solution.  Let me look into it. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much for your understanding and your great suggestion..  
>>> Carolyn H
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 In response to a recent thread about keeping one-line "thank-yous" and
 similar content off the list, I would like to make a suggestion.
 Currently, replying to the sender or replying to all will send a copy
 of the message to the list. However, some lists I am on are set up so
 that replying to the sender will do just that, reply only to the
 sender of the message. To send a message to the list, one must reply
 to all. This is a great setup as it allows posters to very easily take
 a conversation off the list and keep it going privately; to do so, one
 party needs only to reply to sender, instead of reply to all, and the
 rest of the list will not see the subsequent messages (unless someone
 copies the list address on a message for some reason).
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Re: Two questions about Audio Hijack

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Going to work on mine tonight. Funny it should work on my extenral backup 
drive...lol. 

Watch it be something simple, lol.

On 2011-03-01, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Maybe you had a corupt pref file someware. tha'ts my thinking.
> 
> Glad you got it working.
> 
> Take care.
> Sarah Alawami
> 
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> http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my 
> info is below.
> 
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> 
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> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> To those of you who answered my questions about Audio Hijack in conjunction 
>> with Skype, thank you!
>> 
>> 1. I erased the second Skype entry in the components list, but I was 
>> initially alarmed by the result.  The Components list disappeared.  However, 
>> clicking on New Session restored it in its entirety.
>> 
>> 2.  As soon as I erased the second Skype entry in the components list, I was 
>> once again able to interact with the toolbar.
>> 
>> So all's well that ends well, and I thank all of you.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 28,Feb,2011, at 9:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello. to del a session it's not the del key but the cmd del. you should be 
>>> fine wiht removing the second skype session. I don't know why it would have 
>>> created it though.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> Sarah Alawami
>>> 
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>>> http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my 
>>> info is below.
>>> 
>>> MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Darcy,
 
 When I try to interact with the toolbar, VO just beeps at me. 
 
 Can I delete the second Skype entry in the usual way, i.e. pressing the 
 backspace key?  I guess I'm afraid to try it without knowing for sure that 
 I won't irreparably break anything else. :)
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mike
 
 On 27,Feb,2011, at 11:18 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
 
> Hi Mike.  That script will hijack the first item in your sessions list 
> that includes the name skype.  So as long as you have one session called 
> skype, it will work.  As for VO not interacting with the toolbar, that's 
> a puzzle.  What happens when you try to interact with it?
> Darcy
> 
> On 2011-02-27, at 3:51 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> A very kind person on this list helped me create a macro that 
>> automatically starts Audio Hijack and selects Skype to hijack.  Though 
>> the macro still works perfectly, and I use it almost every day, two 
>> things have started to occur that I don't understand.
>> 
>> 1. In the component session, there are now two entries for Skype, and I 
>> never know which one of these components is actually hijacking the Skype 
>> audio.  I used to be able to determine this, but no longer.
>> 
>> 2.  Voice Over no longer interacts with the Audio Hijack toolbar in 
>> either Skype entry in the components table.
>> 
>> Thus: Is it possible to erase one of the Skype entries?  And can I do 
>> something to once again make VO interact with the toolbar so that I can 
>> split recordings, etc.?  Lastly, if I can somehow erase one of the Skype 
>> entries in the components table, will my macro still work? 
>> 
>> Thanks a million,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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Re: Verizon to Drop Unlimited iPhone Data Plans as Soon as This Summer

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Rogers and at&t share the same towers, or at least rogers in Canada bought them 
from the US.

No wonder signal, overall network speed suck here, though I'm not getting any 
dropped calls.

I must say though, I can't wait to move to the us and go on vz. From what my 
partner tells me (he has the droid x), vz has quite a good network.

On 2011-03-01, at 8:29 PM, James Mannion wrote:

> I really think it is because mobile networks are not able yet to
> handel people putting unlimited demands for data access on them. Any
> network has its upper limits and mobile networks are still less able
> to handel demand than land line networks. If they put limits that
> serve a purpose, but are not over limiting, that keeps people from
> constantly doing things like streaming the most data intensive video
> stuff and whatever else they can fid with no concern of any
> consequences to themselves, bringing down the entire network so nobody
> can do anything and then everybody is left unhappy. People will be a
> little more reasonable with what they do if there is a cost to them.
> Having said that, AT&T's netwrk can not even handel the limited use in
> some areas including the city where I live. During the day I can not
> even pull up a small web page on AT&T's 3g network. It simply times
> out. I can not stream pandora, I can barely use the weather app to
> pull its small amount of data. Since my contract is almost up, I have
> signed on with Verizon and I can tell you that right now their network
> actually works in my area. My understanding is that this exact
> situation is not uncommon at all. Maybe Verizon will manage their
> resources and growth in a way that does not create another AT&T.
> 
> On 3/1/11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> what's the theory behind VZ droping its unlimited data plan? read more:
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/e7omui
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Yep, I always thought Samantha for the I devices sounded a bit snobbish. I have 
this image of what she'd look like in my head, I won't go into it, but it 
cracks me up every time.

On 2011-03-02, at 11:11 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Mary:
> I recently wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding voicing.  I inquired about 
> the possibility of the Alex voice being made available for the iPad.  The 
> response I got was encouraging in that Accessibility indicated they had 
> gotten a lot of good feedback about Alex, and they couldn't comment as to 
> whether he'd be brought over there.  Nothing in their response seemed to 
> point toward  his being retired, but instead, they , mentioned his 
> popularity.:)
> 
> So, there's a bit of hope for us Alex fans.
> 
> 
> 
> Carolyn
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> According to the article found at
>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
>> will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
>> inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
>> ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are 
>> coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
>> languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
>> reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
>> what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Heres another point of view.

I want elequence when I read - booksense, stream, etc. No, stop with those real 
sounding voices, I want doubletalk, I want voices that don't pause at random. I 
want doubletalk or elequence. Good thing I have 4 book ports...oh, and 60 hours 
of battery life.

Sorry for getting off topic, but that's a pet peve of mine.

On 2011-03-02, at 11:58 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, 
> but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those voices 
> sound like complete garbage.
> 
> Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
> Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak or 
>> Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way better 
>> in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
>> 
>>> According to the article found at
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
>>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
>>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
>>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that 
>>> Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, 
>>> vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English 
>>> voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices 
>>> that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for 
>>> speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a 
>>> non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can 
>>> Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male 
>>> voice.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
I agree. Sometimes I'd rather have her reading something to me. And I'm sure 
they'll improve her on the mac.

On 2011-03-02, at 12:17 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Guys relax. I heard a sample of the voices and sorry I should have posted the 
> article, but someone will. I have to say the new voices sound great and 
> certainly no worse than Alex. So, I think we're going to be in for a real 
> treat. In fact the voices will be a download option as well, so you won't 
> have to have every voice on your machine.
> I really think folks will like them. Of course I don't mind the Samantha 
> voice on the iOS platform all that much, but hell she grows on you after a 
> while; sort of like mold. :)
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, 
>> but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those voices 
>> sound like complete garbage.
>> 
>> Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
>> Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak 
>>> or Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way 
>>> better in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
>>> 
 According to the article found at
 http://www.tuaw.com/
 Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
 There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
 languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
 me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
 improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that 
 Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, 
 vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English 
 voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices 
 that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for 
 speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a 
 non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can 
 Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male 
 voice.
 
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Click to flash? What is that.

Speaking of flash on the mac...how do you use it, or can you, with vo?

thanks...


On 2011-03-02, at 2:29 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> For one thing, the voices on the mac will be of a higher quality than on iOS. 
> Apple insider has samples of the voices. I didn't think much of Jill, but 
> samantha sounded better than she has on any previous platform, and tom was 
> just fabulous. I think Tom has a good chance of replacing alex for me. For 
> those having trouble finding the samples, I think having click to flash 
> installed makes this kind of thing much easier. Here's the link to the 
> article.
> HTTP://Dlvr.it/J1fXf
> 
> Also, I would think that everyone waiting for Alex on iOS will be slightly 
> disappointed. He will be pleasant to hear for sure, but not up to the 
> standards we expect of that voice on the mac. I would guess it would be a 
> marginal improvement over samantha at best. Remember, quality is somewhat 
> limited by the lower specifications of the device. This is why, for example, 
> Samantha sounds so terrible on the Victer reader stream and so good on the 
> iPhone.
> 
> Nobody need worry about Alex going anywhere. Apple knows Alex is the most 
> popular voice.
> 
> Justin
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
> I am not a mac user, but I, too, emailed apple about porting Alex over
> to the iOS platform since he sounds so much better than Karen or
> Samantha. I hope they do not get rid of him, and I doubt they will. I
> heard a rumor (a tweet, actually) that he has been improved in the
> newest 10.7 beta; not quite as choppy on some syllables and overall
> smoother. Remember, everyone, to email accessibil...@apple.com to
> express your desire that Alex not be retired, just to be on the safe
> side!
> 
> On 3/2/11, carolyn Haas  wrote:
>> Hi Mary:
>> I recently wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding voicing.  I inquired about
>> the possibility of the Alex voice being made available for the iPad.  The
>> response I got was encouraging in that Accessibility indicated they had
>> gotten a lot of good feedback about Alex, and they couldn't comment as to
>> whether he'd be brought over there.  Nothing in their response seemed to
>> point toward  his being retired, but instead, they , mentioned his
>> popularity.:)
>> 
>> So, there's a bit of hope for us Alex fans.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carolyn
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>>> According to the article found at
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of
>>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For
>>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an
>>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that
>>> Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least,
>>> vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English
>>> voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices
>>> that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for
>>> speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a
>>> non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can
>>> Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male
>>> voice.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread erik burggraaf
Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is upsetting.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> What will the new update include? read on:
> 
> http://bit.ly/eCc8wS
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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Maurice Mines
 the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with Bluetooth 
Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an IOS when 
it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of braille display 
you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has been dictated by 
using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or spelling or not be 
completely correct.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is upsetting.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
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>> 
>> http://bit.ly/eCc8wS
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Editing Tracks in Amadeus

2011-03-02 Thread Austin Seraphin
I use Amadeus to do podcasts. So I have a track with my voice. Then ideally I 
will have another track with the intro and outro music. I think I've figured 
about expanding and collapsing the boxes in the scroll area to tell it the 
track(s) on which you wish to work, do I have that right? Anyway, I can paste 
the intro in the track fine, but what about the outro? Markers seem to only 
apply to one track. Really I want to set the markers in my voice track, then 
bring them down to the music track so I can drop in the outro. This doesn't 
seem to work. Any help? I read about moving tracks in the manual, but it only 
described it with drag and drop gestures. I tried the drag/drop VoiceOver 
commands but they didn't work. I suppose I could compute the length and 
generate silence then put in the outro, but that sounds torturous at best, and 
I know a better way exists. I just have to learn. Thanks for any guidance 
anyone can give.

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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread erik burggraaf
HI, I've got a braille connect here.  I've also got access to other devices on 
occasion, but I haven't tested any on my ITouch yet.  Braille connect is far 
and away my favourite of all the displays I teach.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2011-03-02, at 5:25 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:

> the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with Bluetooth 
> Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an IOS when 
> it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of braille display 
> you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has been dictated 
> by using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or spelling or not be 
> completely correct.
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is 
>> upsetting.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
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>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/eCc8wS
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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Hall
What, exactly, is broken about bluetooth braille? I have a BrailleNote
Apex and use it several times a week. Aside from the initial pairing
process, which I have only had to do a couple times, things could not
be easier. The one major problem I have is lack of computer braille
and/or a better translator, but if you type quickly it is really not a
problem. Of course there is always room for improvement, but I have
not yet found anything that needs fixing (aside from the translation
trouble).

On 3/2/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> HI, I've got a braille connect here.  I've also got access to other devices
> on occasion, but I haven't tested any on my ITouch yet.  Braille connect is
> far and away my favourite of all the displays I teach.
>
> Best,
>
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>
> On 2011-03-02, at 5:25 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>
>> the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with Bluetooth
>> Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an IOS
>> when it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of braille
>> display you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has been
>> dictated by using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or spelling
>> or not be completely correct.
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is
>>> upsetting.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>
>>> On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>
 What will the new update include? read on:

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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Just because it was not mentioned does not mean it's there. ornot there? I 
think? We'll see. I don't remember bt and braile beeing  an issue but I don't 
use it so ehre ya go.

S
On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is upsetting.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> 
> On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
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>> 
>> http://bit.ly/eCc8wS
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Re: Editing Tracks in Amadeus

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually I do everythign in one track. 1. load yoru podcast track. 2. past in 
yoru intro at the begining. 3. past your outtro at the end. I add silences to 
mine and stuff but you do not have to do that.

On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> I use Amadeus to do podcasts. So I have a track with my voice. Then ideally I 
> will have another track with the intro and outro music. I think I've figured 
> about expanding and collapsing the boxes in the scroll area to tell it the 
> track(s) on which you wish to work, do I have that right? Anyway, I can paste 
> the intro in the track fine, but what about the outro? Markers seem to only 
> apply to one track. Really I want to set the markers in my voice track, then 
> bring them down to the music track so I can drop in the outro. This doesn't 
> seem to work. Any help? I read about moving tracks in the manual, but it only 
> described it with drag and drop gestures. I tried the drag/drop VoiceOver 
> commands but they didn't work. I suppose I could compute the length and 
> generate silence then put in the outro, but that sounds torturous at best, 
> and I know a better way exists. I just have to learn. Thanks for any guidance 
> anyone can give.
> 
> - Austin
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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread erik burggraaf
When my ITouch goes to sleep it juncks the connection to my braille connect and 
I have to manually reconnect it.  It's a known issue with IOS4  and some 
displays.

Best,

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Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-02, at 5:38 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> What, exactly, is broken about bluetooth braille? I have a BrailleNote
> Apex and use it several times a week. Aside from the initial pairing
> process, which I have only had to do a couple times, things could not
> be easier. The one major problem I have is lack of computer braille
> and/or a better translator, but if you type quickly it is really not a
> problem. Of course there is always room for improvement, but I have
> not yet found anything that needs fixing (aside from the translation
> trouble).
> 
> On 3/2/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> HI, I've got a braille connect here.  I've also got access to other devices
>> on occasion, but I haven't tested any on my ITouch yet.  Braille connect is
>> far and away my favourite of all the displays I teach.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-03-02, at 5:25 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>> 
>>> the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with Bluetooth
>>> Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an IOS
>>> when it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of braille
>>> display you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has been
>>> dictated by using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or spelling
>>> or not be completely correct.
>>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is
 upsetting.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Tyler wood
Same goes here - though not as good of experience, only did it a few times with 
an alva bc640.


On 2011-03-02, at 4:38 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> What, exactly, is broken about bluetooth braille? I have a BrailleNote
> Apex and use it several times a week. Aside from the initial pairing
> process, which I have only had to do a couple times, things could not
> be easier. The one major problem I have is lack of computer braille
> and/or a better translator, but if you type quickly it is really not a
> problem. Of course there is always room for improvement, but I have
> not yet found anything that needs fixing (aside from the translation
> trouble).
> 
> On 3/2/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> HI, I've got a braille connect here.  I've also got access to other devices
>> on occasion, but I haven't tested any on my ITouch yet.  Braille connect is
>> far and away my favourite of all the displays I teach.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-03-02, at 5:25 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>> 
>>> the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with Bluetooth
>>> Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an IOS
>>> when it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of braille
>>> display you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has been
>>> dictated by using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or spelling
>>> or not be completely correct.
>>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is
 upsetting.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Right,

And I'm assuming the voices on the Mac would be at a significantly higher bit 
rate than those found on IOS.  So you can't really say they will sound worse 
just based on how they sound on the IOS platform.

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On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Guys relax. I heard a sample of the voices and sorry I should have posted the 
> article, but someone will. I have to say the new voices sound great and 
> certainly no worse than Alex. So, I think we're going to be in for a real 
> treat. In fact the voices will be a download option as well, so you won't 
> have to have every voice on your machine.
> I really think folks will like them. Of course I don't mind the Samantha 
> voice on the iOS platform all that much, but hell she grows on you after a 
> while; sort of like mold. :)
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, 
>> but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those voices 
>> sound like complete garbage.
>> 
>> Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
>> Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
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>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
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>> 
>> On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak 
>>> or Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way 
>>> better in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
>>> 
 According to the article found at
 http://www.tuaw.com/
 Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
 There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
 languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
 me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
 improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that 
 Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, 
 vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English 
 voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices 
 that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for 
 speakers of languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a 
 non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can 
 Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male 
 voice.
 
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Re: one liners

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
to me if a one liner can explain something and explain it well then go for it, 
but if it is just simply, yes then no.

example number 1: Yes


example 2: 
Yes the feature you suggested does work very well with voice over and is very 
accessible. All you need to do is tap tap hold and flick to the choice.

Ok the second one was not a 1 liner but it is close enough. lol!

Take care all.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Tyler wood wrote:

> I agree with the below statement.
> 
> And not that I've seen this a lot, but you would think that, considering the 
> volume of the list, the one liner messages could be avoided, if at all 
> possible - imho, it is common sense.
> 
> Again this is just me. It will complicate more than it would solve.
> 
> On 2011-03-01, at 1:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I disagree, this is not consistent but is genearally backwards although 
>> lists do it both ways.
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> With respect, I cannot agree.  I say that command+r should reply only to 
>>> the sender and command+shift+r should reply to the list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
>>> 
 I personally would not like this at all. Most of the time, I want my reply 
 to go to the list. I think that the default for the reply hotkey should be 
 the most commonly preferred action. We would have people sending answers 
 to questions only to the original poster. It would have to be explained to 
 every new member that the reply button does not do what is generally 
 expected on a list of this type. Some people don't even read the welcome 
 message, since it's usually the same instructions. This would complicate 
 more than it would solve. Please do not change how list replies work just 
 to avoid a few one-line replies coming to the list.
 
 On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:09 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Alex:
 I think that would be a great solution.  Let me look into it. 
 
 Thanks very much for your understanding and your great suggestion..  
 Carolyn H
 :)
 
 
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> Hello,
> In response to a recent thread about keeping one-line "thank-yous" and
> similar content off the list, I would like to make a suggestion.
> Currently, replying to the sender or replying to all will send a copy
> of the message to the list. However, some lists I am on are set up so
> that replying to the sender will do just that, reply only to the
> sender of the message. To send a message to the list, one must reply
> to all. This is a great setup as it allows posters to very easily take
> a conversation off the list and keep it going privately; to do so, one
> party needs only to reply to sender, instead of reply to all, and the
> rest of the list will not see the subsequent messages (unless someone
> copies the list address on a message for some reason).
> What do people think of setting up this list that way, if possible?
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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Hall
I see. I did not realize there was a problem with some displays; my
Apex does not do it, and I had not seen it on the aiphone list. Well,
hopefully that gets fixed; pairing is such a painful process,
especially with the time limit of about two seconds!

On 3/2/11, Tyler wood  wrote:
> Same goes here - though not as good of experience, only did it a few times
> with an alva bc640.
>
>
> On 2011-03-02, at 4:38 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> What, exactly, is broken about bluetooth braille? I have a BrailleNote
>> Apex and use it several times a week. Aside from the initial pairing
>> process, which I have only had to do a couple times, things could not
>> be easier. The one major problem I have is lack of computer braille
>> and/or a better translator, but if you type quickly it is really not a
>> problem. Of course there is always room for improvement, but I have
>> not yet found anything that needs fixing (aside from the translation
>> trouble).
>>
>> On 3/2/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> HI, I've got a braille connect here.  I've also got access to other
>>> devices
>>> on occasion, but I haven't tested any on my ITouch yet.  Braille connect
>>> is
>>> far and away my favourite of all the displays I teach.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>
>>> On 2011-03-02, at 5:25 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>>>
 the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with
 Bluetooth
 Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an IOS
 when it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of
 braille
 display you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has
 been
 dictated by using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or spelling
 or not be completely correct.
 On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is
> upsetting.
>
> Best,
>
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>
> On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
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>>
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Re: one liners

2011-03-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
I agree.

sometimes one line responses are all thats necessary.  Example, does the Mac 
have an option for a blue ray player?  NO it doesn't.  I mean, how much could 
you say about it?  lol. :)

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On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> to me if a one liner can explain something and explain it well then go for 
> it, but if it is just simply, yes then no.
> 
> example number 1: Yes
> 
> 
> example 2: 
> Yes the feature you suggested does work very well with voice over and is very 
> accessible. All you need to do is tap tap hold and flick to the choice.
> 
> Ok the second one was not a 1 liner but it is close enough. lol!
> 
> Take care all.
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Tyler wood wrote:
> 
>> I agree with the below statement.
>> 
>> And not that I've seen this a lot, but you would think that, considering the 
>> volume of the list, the one liner messages could be avoided, if at all 
>> possible - imho, it is common sense.
>> 
>> Again this is just me. It will complicate more than it would solve.
>> 
>> On 2011-03-01, at 1:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> I disagree, this is not consistent but is genearally backwards although 
>>> lists do it both ways.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 With respect, I cannot agree.  I say that command+r should reply only to 
 the sender and command+shift+r should reply to the list.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
> I personally would not like this at all. Most of the time, I want my 
> reply to go to the list. I think that the default for the reply hotkey 
> should be the most commonly preferred action. We would have people 
> sending answers to questions only to the original poster. It would have 
> to be explained to every new member that the reply button does not do 
> what is generally expected on a list of this type. Some people don't even 
> read the welcome message, since it's usually the same instructions. This 
> would complicate more than it would solve. Please do not change how list 
> replies work just to avoid a few one-line replies coming to the list.
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:09 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex:
> I think that would be a great solution.  Let me look into it. 
> 
> Thanks very much for your understanding and your great suggestion..  
> Carolyn H
> :)
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> In response to a recent thread about keeping one-line "thank-yous" and
>> similar content off the list, I would like to make a suggestion.
>> Currently, replying to the sender or replying to all will send a copy
>> of the message to the list. However, some lists I am on are set up so
>> that replying to the sender will do just that, reply only to the
>> sender of the message. To send a message to the list, one must reply
>> to all. This is a great setup as it allows posters to very easily take
>> a conversation off the list and keep it going privately; to do so, one
>> party needs only to reply to sender, instead of reply to all, and the
>> rest of the list will not see the subsequent messages (unless someone
>> copies the list address on a message for some reason).
>> What do people think of setting up this list that way, if possible?
>> 
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Re: Any hidden Gotchas when installing more RAM in a MacBook?

2011-03-02 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
If you find out the type & speed of ram that your macbook has, you can
just buy any ram that is the same specs.
Bear in mind that if you want to go to 8GB it could get a bit
expencive depending on your current configuration - e.g. if you don't
have a 4GB stick, you'll have to get rid of all of your current ram
and get 2x 4GB sticks.

On 02/03/2011, Tyler wood  wrote:
> Hey there.
>
> Any idea where exactly you can get memory other than apple? I'd like to
> upgrade to 8 gb, but can't find the specified ram, and apples prices here in
> Canada are too crazy.
>
> thanks
> On 2011-03-01, at 6:24 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> You do not need to change anything on your Mac and you do not need to
>> reinstall windows. You only need to go into Fusion and edit the
>> configuration for the VM and give it more memory.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I was just at a MacShop the other day and bought more RAM (DDR3 variety)
>>> for my MacBook which I purchased two years ago. I currently have 2 GB of
>>> memory and will soon have 4 GB.
>>>
>>> I am wondering If I need to make any changes to Snow Leopard prior or
>>> after installing the new RAM. Will my system just boot up normally, or do
>>> I need to make other changes? I also have VMWare Fusion and would like to
>>> allocate more memory for XP, once the new memory has been installed.  Is
>>> this a straightforward process or will I need to re-install Windows XP
>>> under VMWare fusion?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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Re: Any hidden Gotchas when installing more RAM in a MacBook?

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Granados
crucial.com

On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Tyler wood wrote:

> Hey there.
> 
> Any idea where exactly you can get memory other than apple? I'd like to 
> upgrade to 8 gb, but can't find the specified ram, and apples prices here in 
> Canada are too crazy.
> 
> thanks
> On 2011-03-01, at 6:24 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> You do not need to change anything on your Mac and you do not need to 
>> reinstall windows. You only need to go into Fusion and edit the 
>> configuration for the VM and give it more memory.
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I was just at a MacShop the other day and bought more RAM (DDR3 variety) 
>>> for my MacBook which I purchased two years ago. I currently have 2 GB of 
>>> memory and will soon have 4 GB. 
>>> 
>>> I am wondering If I need to make any changes to Snow Leopard prior or after 
>>> installing the new RAM. Will my system just boot up normally, or do I need 
>>> to make other changes? I also have VMWare Fusion and would like to allocate 
>>> more memory for XP, once the new memory has been installed.  Is this a 
>>> straightforward process or will I need to re-install Windows XP under 
>>> VMWare fusion?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Verizon to Drop Unlimited iPhone Data Plans as Soon as This Summer

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, lets discuss this a little there are some interesting points here.

The largest limiter is spectrum.  Each tower only has so much bandwidth 
(literal bandwidth) that it can use.  This means you can only push so many 
megabits over all for everyone on a given facility.  The more spectrum you have 
the more send and receive sessions you can have in parallel but the key thing 
to remembr it's a shared resource.  As these companies use new technologies you 
also notice they add more spectrum in different bands.  The newer technologies 
have more bands and use spectrum differently as well as more frequency space 
but the end result is more bandwidth and more efficient use of the available 
room.  So the more pipe that's available, the more spectrum and better the 
technology you can use more devices in the same allocated resource level so you 
can give users more slices to use or drop costs, any combination of moves based 
on the larger facility.

As for ATT and Verizon in the states, try them both.  Don't just assume that 
ATT sucks and VZ does not.  I did this and was proven quite wrong.  ATT is 2 - 
3 times faster and has some more advanced calling features do to the different 
technologies used.  VZ is good no doubt but has problems as well and in the end 
it depends on the specific geography you will be using your device.  I would 
definitely try both side by side though, it's not as cut and dry as you make it.

Thanks
Scott




On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Tyler wood wrote:

> Rogers and at&t share the same towers, or at least rogers in Canada bought 
> them from the US.
> 
> No wonder signal, overall network speed suck here, though I'm not getting any 
> dropped calls.
> 
> I must say though, I can't wait to move to the us and go on vz. From what my 
> partner tells me (he has the droid x), vz has quite a good network.
> 
> On 2011-03-01, at 8:29 PM, James Mannion wrote:
> 
>> I really think it is because mobile networks are not able yet to
>> handel people putting unlimited demands for data access on them. Any
>> network has its upper limits and mobile networks are still less able
>> to handel demand than land line networks. If they put limits that
>> serve a purpose, but are not over limiting, that keeps people from
>> constantly doing things like streaming the most data intensive video
>> stuff and whatever else they can fid with no concern of any
>> consequences to themselves, bringing down the entire network so nobody
>> can do anything and then everybody is left unhappy. People will be a
>> little more reasonable with what they do if there is a cost to them.
>> Having said that, AT&T's netwrk can not even handel the limited use in
>> some areas including the city where I live. During the day I can not
>> even pull up a small web page on AT&T's 3g network. It simply times
>> out. I can not stream pandora, I can barely use the weather app to
>> pull its small amount of data. Since my contract is almost up, I have
>> signed on with Verizon and I can tell you that right now their network
>> actually works in my area. My understanding is that this exact
>> situation is not uncommon at all. Maybe Verizon will manage their
>> resources and growth in a way that does not create another AT&T.
>> 
>> On 3/1/11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> what's the theory behind VZ droping its unlimited data plan? read more:
>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/e7omui
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Re: one liners

2011-03-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
I can think of a 5 page responce but I won't. I don't really feel like anoying 
the mods. I'm too tired lol!

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On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> I agree.
> 
> sometimes one line responses are all thats necessary.  Example, does the Mac 
> have an option for a blue ray player?  NO it doesn't.  I mean, how much could 
> you say about it?  lol. :)
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> to me if a one liner can explain something and explain it well then go for 
>> it, but if it is just simply, yes then no.
>> 
>> example number 1: Yes
>> 
>> 
>> example 2: 
>> Yes the feature you suggested does work very well with voice over and is 
>> very accessible. All you need to do is tap tap hold and flick to the choice.
>> 
>> Ok the second one was not a 1 liner but it is close enough. lol!
>> 
>> Take care all.
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Tyler wood wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with the below statement.
>>> 
>>> And not that I've seen this a lot, but you would think that, considering 
>>> the volume of the list, the one liner messages could be avoided, if at all 
>>> possible - imho, it is common sense.
>>> 
>>> Again this is just me. It will complicate more than it would solve.
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-01, at 1:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 I disagree, this is not consistent but is genearally backwards although 
 lists do it both ways.
 
 On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
> With respect, I cannot agree.  I say that command+r should reply only to 
> the sender and command+shift+r should reply to the list.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
> 
>> I personally would not like this at all. Most of the time, I want my 
>> reply to go to the list. I think that the default for the reply hotkey 
>> should be the most commonly preferred action. We would have people 
>> sending answers to questions only to the original poster. It would have 
>> to be explained to every new member that the reply button does not do 
>> what is generally expected on a list of this type. Some people don't 
>> even read the welcome message, since it's usually the same instructions. 
>> This would complicate more than it would solve. Please do not change how 
>> list replies work just to avoid a few one-line replies coming to the 
>> list.
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:09 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex:
>> I think that would be a great solution.  Let me look into it. 
>> 
>> Thanks very much for your understanding and your great suggestion..  
>> Carolyn H
>> :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> In response to a recent thread about keeping one-line "thank-yous" and
>>> similar content off the list, I would like to make a suggestion.
>>> Currently, replying to the sender or replying to all will send a copy
>>> of the message to the list. However, some lists I am on are set up so
>>> that replying to the sender will do just that, reply only to the
>>> sender of the message. To send a message to the list, one must reply
>>> to all. This is a great setup as it allows posters to very easily take
>>> a conversation off the list and keep it going privately; to do so, one
>>> party needs only to reply to sender, instead of reply to all, and the
>>> rest of the list will not see the subsequent messages (unless someone
>>> copies the list address on a message for some reason).
>>> What do people think of setting up this list that way, if possible?
>>> 
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iTunes question

2011-03-02 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hello listers.
I'm wondering if any of you are experiencing this problem.
When I launch iTunes every time, a dialog comes up asking me if I want to allow 
incoming connections. This happens with other apps too but when I say allow, 
for any other app accept iTunes,it never comes up again.
If any of you are experiencing this, have you found a fix? If not, I guess I'll 
be sending a bug report to Apple Feedback.
Thanks for any info.
Matthew Campbell


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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread joseph
hi list

having heard that there will be more non english voices in lion, does this mean 
that these voices would read mac's interface in a particular language, for 
example, if we have a french voice, would i be able to change mac's interface 
to french and have all the commands, buttons as well as text red by the french 
voice?

best
On 2 Mar 2011, at 22:57, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Right,
> 
> And I'm assuming the voices on the Mac would be at a significantly higher bit 
> rate than those found on IOS.  So you can't really say they will sound worse 
> just based on how they sound on the IOS platform.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Guys relax. I heard a sample of the voices and sorry I should have posted 
>> the article, but someone will. I have to say the new voices sound great and 
>> certainly no worse than Alex. So, I think we're going to be in for a real 
>> treat. In fact the voices will be a download option as well, so you won't 
>> have to have every voice on your machine.
>> I really think folks will like them. Of course I don't mind the Samantha 
>> voice on the iOS platform all that much, but hell she grows on you after a 
>> while; sort of like mold. :)
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, 
>>> but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha.  To me those 
>>> voices sound like complete garbage.
>>> 
>>> Every ear is different though.  Some of my clients love those voices.  
>>> Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
 Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak 
 or Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way 
 better in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones.
 /Krister
 
 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten:
 
> According to the article found at
> http://www.tuaw.com/
> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. 
> For me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom 
> as an improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean 
> that Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at 
> least, vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other 
> English voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like 
> the voices that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the 
> I-devices. Great for speakers of languages other than English. Great for 
> folks who prefer a non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap 
> backwards if they can Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if 
> they include the male voice.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: by way of introduction

2011-03-02 Thread Jes Smith
Hi Joe,

It will be an experience alright, one that you will cherish for years to come. 
I am going to do a podcast for blind cool tech on how to use hot spots in voice 
over, which is somewhat of an advanced topic but it is one that no other screen 
reader offers. I'll leave you in suspense until then.

Take care.
Jes


On Feb 28, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

> Hi:
>  
> My name is Joseph Norton, from Dalton, GA.
>  
> As i mentioned before, I have just ordered a new Mac Mini and am anxiously 
> awaiting delivery.
>  
> I have long been a DOS and Windows user and have had experience in Linux, 
> most notably the console mode.  While I have recently played around with ORCA 
> under X-Windows, I have mostly stuck to command-line stuff under Linux.
>  
> From some recent BlindCoolTech podcasts, (Thanks Mike), and from comments of 
> other happy Mac users of VoiceOver, I decided the time had come to learn a 
> new OS.  Also, the fact that I could just go out and buy the computer and not 
> have to spend a dime on another screen-reader was a big deciding factor.  Not 
> to mention the fact that, if I so desire, I can install the OS from scratch, 
> without sighted assistance, if I need to--and I probably will do it, just to 
> get the feel for it.  I may be a bit strange, but, I like to play with 
> installing an OS, trying different ways to configure it, and, even see how I 
> can have more than one OS on the same machine.
>  
> Back a few years ago, I had a machine with Windows 98 SE, Windows XP and 
> Linux.  It was so nice to know that, I had tools for accomplishing different 
> things in each OS, each with their own strengths and weaknesses.  I even had 
> drive images of different versions of Windows so I could troubleshoot.
>  
> One time, for example, I had a friend who spent two hours with AOL tech 
> support because he could not access the Internet through their service.  
> Since he was using Windows 95, I used by image of Windows 95 and was able to 
> duplicate his problem.  I was able to tell him how to access hidden older 
> versions of the AOL software on the CD's they used to send out, which fixed 
> his problem.  The AOL support person did not have a clue what my friend 
> should do.  I had him up and running in 10 minutes or so, after I found out 
> what the problem was.
>  
> Now, I hope to add experience with MAC OS to my learnings.
>  
> I have seen posts on this list and you all seem to be very helpful.  Keep up 
> the good work.  We newbie's out there may need a hint or two along the way.  
> I have already learned some things I might need to know.
>  
> This is probably the longest post from me that you will see.  I apologize if 
> I have taken more time than necessary, but, I will keep it more to the point 
> in the future.
>  
> Again, I can't wait to dive into this new experience.
> 
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Re: accessible utility to remove unused preference files?

2011-03-02 Thread Jeff Berwick
I must admit I am no further ahead with your description.  Do you mean that I 
should be opening the applications folder in step 1 or the application I wish 
to Zap?

In step 2, what am I hitting vo m or command o on?

In step 3, where is this "open" that I need to navigate to?

Thank you for any clarity you can provide.

Thx,
Jeff

On 2011-03-02, at 4:29 PM, Tyler wood wrote:

> Hey there
> 
> 1. Open the application.
> 2. Either his vo m or hit command o. THen browse to the program e.g 
> applications>skype.
> 3. Navigate to open, do vo space. This should bring you to a window with all 
> the info about what is being delted, the option to delete it, etc. There it a 
> zap button at the end, and you should be able to click it and everything 
> should be removed with a most commical cartoonish sound.
> 
> hope that helps some
> Tyler
> On 2011-02-27, at 6:53 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> I haven't figured out how to get Ap Zapper to work...I always figured it 
>> wasn't accessible.  Can you provide any steps/information?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On 2011-02-27, at 5:27 PM, T wood wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> A program called app zapper. Will cost a bit, but the first fie zapps are 
>>> free...plus the sound effects are brilliant. 
>>> 
>>> On 2011-02-27, at 12:01 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Listers.
 I'm wondering if anyone has found an accessible utility to remove unused 
 preference files from one's library?
 I looked to see if onyx could do this but it doesn't look like it can.
 Thanks for any help.
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iPad 2

2011-03-02 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi all,
Just got a note from Apple that the iPad 2 will be released on March 11 in the 
US. The new iPad is thinner, lighter, faster processor and has both a front and 
back facing camera. They've even kept the battery life at 10 hours.
Learn more at and watch the really cool keynote at:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/?cid=CDM-US-DM-P0010191-SMB&Email_PageName=P0010191-SMB&Email_OID=5be3f4b8c856ad34f501f31552b326f9&cp=em-P0010191-SMB&sr=em


Friendly,
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iPad 2

2011-03-02 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi all,
Just got a note from Apple that the iPad 2 will be released on March 11 in the 
US. The new iPad is thinner, lighter, faster processor and has both a front and 
back facing camera. They've even kept the battery life at 10 hours.
Learn more at and watch the really cool keynote at:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/?cid=CDM-US-DM-P0010191-SMB&Email_PageName=P0010191-SMB&Email_OID=5be3f4b8c856ad34f501f31552b326f9&cp=em-P0010191-SMB&sr=em


Friendly,
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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread Kaare Dehard
I doubt ole alex is getting the elbow from apple. They have novelty voices and 
other stuff like fred that is still about from the 80s, so given the way they 
like to keep stuff alex has a long way to go before getting a divorce from 
apple.
On 2011-03-02, at 12:11 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Mary:
> I recently wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding voicing.  I inquired about 
> the possibility of the Alex voice being made available for the iPad.  The 
> response I got was encouraging in that Accessibility indicated they had 
> gotten a lot of good feedback about Alex, and they couldn't comment as to 
> whether he'd be brought over there.  Nothing in their response seemed to 
> point toward  his being retired, but instead, they , mentioned his 
> popularity.:)
> 
> So, there's a bit of hope for us Alex fans.
> 
> 
> 
> Carolyn
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> According to the article found at
>> http://www.tuaw.com/
>> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
>> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
>> languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
>> me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
>> improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
>> will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
>> inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
>> ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are 
>> coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
>> languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
>> reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
>> what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Verizon to Drop Unlimited iPhone Data Plans as Soon as This Summer

2011-03-02 Thread James Mannion
You bring up some goodpoints. If you were referring to me making it
cut and dry and advising to try both, I have tried both side by side
where I live. My comments were based on that experience as well as
what I have heard to be generally true right now. It definitely does
depend on the area and the results might even flip flop as time goes
by.

On 3/2/11, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Actually, lets discuss this a little there are some interesting points here.
>
> The largest limiter is spectrum.  Each tower only has so much bandwidth
> (literal bandwidth) that it can use.  This means you can only push so many
> megabits over all for everyone on a given facility.  The more spectrum you
> have the more send and receive sessions you can have in parallel but the key
> thing to remembr it's a shared resource.  As these companies use new
> technologies you also notice they add more spectrum in different bands.  The
> newer technologies have more bands and use spectrum differently as well as
> more frequency space but the end result is more bandwidth and more efficient
> use of the available room.  So the more pipe that's available, the more
> spectrum and better the technology you can use more devices in the same
> allocated resource level so you can give users more slices to use or drop
> costs, any combination of moves based on the larger facility.
>
> As for ATT and Verizon in the states, try them both.  Don't just assume that
> ATT sucks and VZ does not.  I did this and was proven quite wrong.  ATT is 2
> - 3 times faster and has some more advanced calling features do to the
> different technologies used.  VZ is good no doubt but has problems as well
> and in the end it depends on the specific geography you will be using your
> device.  I would definitely try both side by side though, it's not as cut
> and dry as you make it.
>
> Thanks
> Scott
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Tyler wood wrote:
>
>> Rogers and at&t share the same towers, or at least rogers in Canada bought
>> them from the US.
>>
>> No wonder signal, overall network speed suck here, though I'm not getting
>> any dropped calls.
>>
>> I must say though, I can't wait to move to the us and go on vz. From what
>> my partner tells me (he has the droid x), vz has quite a good network.
>>
>> On 2011-03-01, at 8:29 PM, James Mannion wrote:
>>
>>> I really think it is because mobile networks are not able yet to
>>> handel people putting unlimited demands for data access on them. Any
>>> network has its upper limits and mobile networks are still less able
>>> to handel demand than land line networks. If they put limits that
>>> serve a purpose, but are not over limiting, that keeps people from
>>> constantly doing things like streaming the most data intensive video
>>> stuff and whatever else they can fid with no concern of any
>>> consequences to themselves, bringing down the entire network so nobody
>>> can do anything and then everybody is left unhappy. People will be a
>>> little more reasonable with what they do if there is a cost to them.
>>> Having said that, AT&T's netwrk can not even handel the limited use in
>>> some areas including the city where I live. During the day I can not
>>> even pull up a small web page on AT&T's 3g network. It simply times
>>> out. I can not stream pandora, I can barely use the weather app to
>>> pull its small amount of data. Since my contract is almost up, I have
>>> signed on with Verizon and I can tell you that right now their network
>>> actually works in my area. My understanding is that this exact
>>> situation is not uncommon at all. Maybe Verizon will manage their
>>> resources and growth in a way that does not create another AT&T.
>>>
>>> On 3/1/11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 what's the theory behind VZ droping its unlimited data plan? read more:

 http://bit.ly/e7omui

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Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users

2011-03-02 Thread David Tanner
Yes, and in the Windows version there is no inflection, and no way to hear 
punctuation when reading continuously if you need to do that for some 
reason.




- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users


According to the article found at
http://www.tuaw.com/
Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices,
There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety of 
languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's os. For 
me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and Tom as an 
improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not mean that Apple 
will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me at least, vastly 
inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be other English voices, the 
ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds like the voices that are 
coming to Lion are those we now have on the I-devices. Great for speakers of 
languages other than English. Great for folks who prefer a non-U.S. English 
reading voice. But a definite leap backwards if they can Alex in favor of 
what's on the IPhone now, even if they include the male voice.


Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread David Tanner
I have used the Focus Blue, Refresh A Braille, and Easy Link 12 now known as 
the Braille Pen with the current IOS, and have been happy with how all three 
worked.  In fact, I love using my Focus Blue with my iPhone 4 and the 
Braille Pen at $995 with my iTouch is fantastic.  Just imagine a nice 
notetaker with a 12 cell Braille display for well under $2,000.  I have not 
seen any big problems with the bluetooth with any of these three displays, 
but I have not tried the Braille Connect.  But, since I do have one on my 
desk at work I will give it a try and see how it does.  Maybe it is a 
Braille Connect issue.




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From: "Sarah Alawami" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes 
Home Sharing



Just because it was not mentioned does not mean it's there. ornot there? I 
think? We'll see. I don't remember bt and braile beeing  an issue but I 
don't use it so ehre ya go.


S
On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is 
upsetting.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


What will the new update include? read on:

http://bit.ly/eCc8wS

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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread David Tanner
Ok, I have seen the loss of Braille when the screen locks.  That would be a 
good one to fix.  But, you can fix that by setting the iTouch to never lock. 
That is possible.  I have not seen the display disconnect when the screen 
locks only that you no longer get any Braille output until the unit is 
unlocked again.




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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes 
Home Sharing



When my ITouch goes to sleep it juncks the connection to my braille 
connect and I have to manually reconnect it.  It's a known issue with IOS4 
and some displays.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-02, at 5:38 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


What, exactly, is broken about bluetooth braille? I have a BrailleNote
Apex and use it several times a week. Aside from the initial pairing
process, which I have only had to do a couple times, things could not
be easier. The one major problem I have is lack of computer braille
and/or a better translator, but if you type quickly it is really not a
problem. Of course there is always room for improvement, but I have
not yet found anything that needs fixing (aside from the translation
trouble).

On 3/2/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
HI, I've got a braille connect here.  I've also got access to other 
devices
on occasion, but I haven't tested any on my ITouch yet.  Braille connect 
is

far and away my favourite of all the displays I teach.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-02, at 5:25 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:

the hello, I'm just curious you mention that they been deal with 
Bluetooth
Trail, from what I understand it varies by display you support to an 
IOS
when it comes to Bluetooth braille. So my question is what kind of 
braille
display you have? Just curious. Cheers Maurice. Note this message has 
been
dictated by using MacSpeech Dictate, some words, phrases and/or 
spelling

or not be completely correct.
On Mar 2, 2011, at 3:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:


Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is
upsetting.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


What will the new update include? read on:

http://bit.ly/eCc8wS

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Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes Home Sharing

2011-03-02 Thread Charlie Doremus
Can you please change the subject line?

Aloha, 

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On Mar 2, 2011, at 8:03 PM, "David Tanner"  wrote:

> I have used the Focus Blue, Refresh A Braille, and Easy Link 12 now known as 
> the Braille Pen with the current IOS, and have been happy with how all three 
> worked.  In fact, I love using my Focus Blue with my iPhone 4 and the Braille 
> Pen at $995 with my iTouch is fantastic.  Just imagine a nice notetaker with 
> a 12 cell Braille display for well under $2,000.  I have not seen any big 
> problems with the bluetooth with any of these three displays, but I have not 
> tried the Braille Connect.  But, since I do have one on my desk at work I 
> will give it a try and see how it does.  Maybe it is a Braille Connect issue.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: iOS 4.3 to Launch on March 11th: HotSpot, Faster Safari, iTunes 
> Home Sharing
> 
> 
>> Just because it was not mentioned does not mean it's there. ornot there? I 
>> think? We'll see. I don't remember bt and braile beeing  an issue but I 
>> don't use it so ehre ya go.
>> 
>> S
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Nothing about fixing bluetooth braille display connections which is 
>>> upsetting.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-02, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 What will the new update include? read on:
 
 http://bit.ly/eCc8wS
 
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