Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Eric Oyen
sometimes it can be a little too verbose when you don't want it to be.

-Eric

On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> Marlaina,
> 
> Why would you want voice-over to "shut up"? Would that not defeat the reason 
> for having voice-over?
> 
> Aloha, 
> 
> Charlie
> 
> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click 
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> 
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> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Marlaina
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Paul Erkens

Hi Mike,

This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air


You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use 
the shared drive.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Mary,

I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb 
memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, 
you get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do 
it if I can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is hardly 
enough.  Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of 
GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel?


I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows world 
a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it surely is 
for me.


I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, 
but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let 
folks know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it 
for sure.


Marlaina
On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Marlaina,
Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the 
possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for 
both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? 
I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the 
IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the 
air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up 
mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.


mary
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safari extensions

2010-11-08 Thread chad baker
Hi do you guys know of any safari extensions that are accessible?
I' m looking for a weather and radio one.
i currently have the weather channel but can't find the weather conditions.
thanks

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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Kerie Doyle
On 11/8/10, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks.
>
> Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who
> are so kind to give your time and knowledge.  I have a few situations using
> apple mail I'd love to fix.  Here goes.
>
> 1.  When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over
> until all my mail is downloaded.  Please tell me I can turn that off!
>
> 2.  Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an
> email to my addressbook?  For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but
> not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that?  My husband
> took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was
> macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which
> brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to
> addressbook.  How do I do that using vo?
>
> 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move it;
> I want to leave it in my inbox for now.  How do I close it and be returned
> to my inbox list of messages?  Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to reopen the
> inbox; I have to believe there is a better way!
>
> 4.  I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete
> it.  This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all
> this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom the
> next message was sent or its subject.  Can I make that stop?
>
> 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one,
> but I can't seem to find it.  I've done all sorts of itterations of turning
> long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text,
> and the list goes on!  It just escapes me!
>
> 6.  I know what the attachment is and decide to save it.  I go to file and
> save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't read
> the name of the file.  Is there a way to hear that?
>
> Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic.  However, I
> would be so grateful for any insight people can give me.
>
> Marlaina
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>Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where by I 
>could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate places for 
>messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I want to have is 
>something where there is a separate mailbox where for example only mail from a 
>certain email address goes, and I can choose to read emails or not, I want 
>this mail only to go to only the mailbox that was created for it, so when I 
>open mail I don't have to wade through a load of mailing list to find a mail 
>from a friend who's writing to say hi. Is it possible to do all this using 
>voice over?

Would really love to get this set up so any help greatly appreciated
and thanks.

Kerie

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Re: For Joshua:gmail filters and Apple Mail

2010-11-08 Thread Joshua Loya
Sometimes it's a little thing that has a dramatic impact.

-Joshua
On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Joshua:
> Ok I just finally got the filter thing going right, and when I checked your 
> message from the first of November came up.  I replied without checking the 
> date.:) But, in case you had any issue creating filters, as I did,  the field 
> that indicates where the message should go is the "to" field.  I was trying 
> to put it in the "from field and that was causing the filter to come up 
> empty. .  Carolyn anyone, 
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Ok. So the label shows up in the mailboxes list. That's great. We're half 
>> way there. How can I organize my GMail account in box in Apple Mail, so that 
>> the same messages which appear in the Mac Visionaries label/mailbox do not 
>> appear in the GMail in box in Apple Mail?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Joshua:
>>> Your filters would have you send messages to  a label.  That label should 
>>> automaticly show up in your Applemail as a mailbox.  However, I've never 
>>> gotten a google filter to work properly.  I sure hope you have better luck 
>>> than I have had.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carolyn Haas
>>> chaas0...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
 I have recently set up a filter in GMail for all messages sent to 
 macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Do I need to set up a separate filter in 
 Apple Mail, or is there a way to have labels displayed in the mailboxes 
 list?
 Thanks,
 Joshua
 
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Re: accessible games

2010-11-08 Thread Joshua Loya
I am not sure about Crazy Eights or Life, but I'd be very interested what 
mudding clients, if any, people are using on the Mac.

-Joshua
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there an accessible version of either Crazy Eights or Life for the Mac?
> Courtney
> 
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread denise avant
hi,
notetakers have their place. you just have to remember what you want to do. for 
example, if i want to load a bible on a notetaker to take to church or sunday 
school, and pull up the verses, reading them in braille i can do that. that 
would be a cumbersome process on a macbook air or any other computer based 
model.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> I can think of at least two reasons why somebody would want a blindness 
> notetaker rather than a Macbook Air. You like to write using a braille 
> keyboard and you don't want to mess with two devices, e.g. the Air and a 
> display. You want gps, which you can't get with a Macbook Air. and number 3, 
> the blindness notetaker such as the Apex voicenote or voicesense is still 
> smaller and has better battery life than the Air. Oh, and reading books from 
> blindness-oriented places like bookshare or RFB&D is less of a hassle with a 
> notetaker. Surely, as somebody who paid a premium for an unlicked IPhone, you 
> will admit that some decisions are not made based on strictly dollars and 
> cents basis. 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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RE: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Brian Miller
At risk of getting of us topic for this listserv, may I ask what is NDVA?
I've not heard of this screen reader -- is it one of the systems access
products?

Brian Miller
 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nektarios Mallas
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

Hello.
I am not going to defend windows or netbooks here, but you can get this $300
computer with windows 7 sarter, add NVDA free and powerful screen reader and
you are good to go.

Nektarios.

On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the
price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing
computer but a screenreader as well.
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook
the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air
is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They
sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno,
NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of
minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB
Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without
all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible
as any other Macbook.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Isaac Obie

n NVDA is a free screenreader.
Isaac
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From: "Brian Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:40 AM
Subject: RE: accessibility of MacBook Air



At risk of getting of us topic for this listserv, may I ask what is NDVA?
I've not heard of this screen reader -- is it one of the systems access
products?

Brian Miller


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nektarios Mallas
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

Hello.
I am not going to defend windows or netbooks here, but you can get this 
$300
computer with windows 7 sarter, add NVDA free and powerful screen reader 
and

you are good to go.

Nektarios.

On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:


Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the

price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing
computer but a screenreader as well.


On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook
the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook 
air
is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. 
They

sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno,

NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of
minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB
Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without
all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.



Marlaina Lieberg


1guide...@gmail.com

On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible

as any other Macbook.


Kevin

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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
hello,

in case its not been mentioned, the new Air comes with a USB memory card 8Gb 
which has the OS on it for reinstall purposes.
On 8 Nov 2010, at 09:12, Paul Erkens wrote:

Hi Mike,

This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
- Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air


You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use the 
shared drive.
On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Mary,
> 
> I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb memory. 
>  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you get what 
> you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I can get 
> the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough.  Now the 
> 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, do you 
> think I am tired from travel?
> 
> I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows world a 
> netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it surely is for me.
> 
> I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
> concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, 
> but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks 
> know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure.
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> Marlaina,
> Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the possible 
> purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for both. I 
> assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd be 
> curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad 
> mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air 
> with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast 
> when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.
> 
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Mb airs

2010-11-08 Thread Chenelle Hancock
Hi all,   I have to say that I really do enjoy the mb pro along with the i-pad 
and the i-phone aswell. for about 10 years or so I had mostly used windows 
computers and had come into contact with many problems such as, viruses, 
computer always freezing up and locking on me along with the computer often 
crashing on me after three or four years or my having the computer. I  just 
became fed up with windows and decided after all that time to switch over to a 
mackbook pro as of this year. I am completely elated about my new mb pro. I 
will be getting the most recent i-phone within the next few months and i cannot 
wait either.
sincerely, chenelle

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blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Chenelle Hancock
I have to say having used both blind note takers and the mb pro/ the i-phone 
3gs. I have found the  mb family of products to be much more accessible  to me 
as a vi person then the blind note takers. I still also have  my original qx 
400 pac mate and let me tell you!. I cannot stand that damn note taker. So I 
mostly stopped using it and just used my windows base computer to read book 
share book or my victor reader stream or its sister companion  the victor 
reader vibe to read rfbd books.  I also own an romeo embosser so if I wanted 
something in a hard copy all I would have to do is to  emboss it and it is at 
my finger tips etc... 
However, I can understand how a blind note taker such as the braille note, 
braille sense or the a pax note taker from human ware would be just right for 
either one of you during such occasions  when it would be most needed.  but why 
don't you try hooking it up to your mack book air to see if it would be much 
more easier to operate  at different functions that you might have to attend.  
i hope this  helps.
sincerely, chenelle

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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I have used a pacmate too, I hate it, it is heavy. But I am so happy to use my 
IPhone/Ipod together with my focus 40 blue braille display. I also use my 
braille display on my mac computer, it really works great.

Best regards Annie.
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

> I have to say having used both blind note takers and the mb pro/ the i-phone 
> 3gs. I have found the  mb family of products to be much more accessible  to 
> me as a vi person then the blind note takers. I still also have  my original 
> qx 400 pac mate and let me tell you!. I cannot stand that damn note taker. So 
> I mostly stopped using it and just used my windows base computer to read book 
> share book or my victor reader stream or its sister companion  the victor 
> reader vibe to read rfbd books.  I also own an romeo embosser so if I wanted 
> something in a hard copy all I would have to do is to  emboss it and it is at 
> my finger tips etc... 
> However, I can understand how a blind note taker such as the braille note, 
> braille sense or the a pax note taker from human ware would be just right for 
> either one of you during such occasions  when it would be most needed.  but 
> why don't you try hooking it up to your mack book air to see if it would be 
> much more easier to operate  at different functions that you might have to 
> attend.  i hope this  helps.
> sincerely, chenelle
> 
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Re: iphone 4g and 3gs

2010-11-08 Thread M AUSTEN
Thanks to all those who answered my question about the voice on the iphone.
i'm going to take a look at the 3gs at the local phone store where they won't 
know a lot about the Mac OS. Could someone please advise me on how to change 
the voice on the iphone?
Thanks again,
Mark 

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Re: iphone 4g and 3gs

2010-11-08 Thread M AUSTEN


Thanks to all those who answered my question about the voice on the
iphone.

 

i'm going to take a look at the 3gs at the local phone store where
they won't know a lot about the Mac OS. Could someone please advise me on how
to change the voice on the iphone?

 

Thanks again,

 

Mark 




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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread heather kd5cbl
NVDA is a free screenreader for the windows opperating system!  Does not 
Compare to the voice over for the apples!  Heather 


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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Can a Macbook air now replace a Macbook pro and if not why? and if so, at what 
cost in speed, memory etc?
/Krister
8 nov 2010 kl. 01.46 skrev Marlaina Lieberg:

> Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile.  I sold my iPad to get it.  It 
> does for me what  I 
> had hoped the iPad would do.  but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and 
> sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be 
> dead.  Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss 
> spelled.  So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd 
> hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled.  I even turned 
> off auto correction and still had the same problem.  I really wanted 
> something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like 
> to call it, is just the thing.  The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO 
> echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading 
> time.  
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
> price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
> about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
> sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
>> where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
>> minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
>> Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
>> all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.
>>  
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 
>> 
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>> 
>> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as 
>> any other Macbook.
>> 
>> Kevin
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pasting date and time in Text Edit?

2010-11-08 Thread John Sanfilippo
Hello,

Is it possible to paste the current date and time at the cursor location in 
Text Edit?

John S


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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi everyone,

I thought I'd chime in here. Having used the BrailleNote, BT32, Pacmate, and 
now Braillino I have to say if I were  going to college now, what I would use 
is the Iphone for notes or my Macbook combined with the Braillino as a Braille 
display. I hope the Braillino will be supported soon for the Iphone. I can see 
where the notetakers for the blind would have their place though. I do better  
taking notes on the fly in grade two. If someone is dictating something really 
fast or I have to write something down before I forget I do better in braille 
but that's just me. I use the Braillino's notetaking function at work, to fill 
out forms etc. But have started using the Braillino as a Braille display 
through Window-eyes and using the computer to do the functions I previously 
deligated to the Braillino. 

Cheerfully,
Allison
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On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I have used a pacmate too, I hate it, it is heavy. But I am so happy to use 
> my IPhone/Ipod together with my focus 40 blue braille display. I also use my 
> braille display on my mac computer, it really works great.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> 
>> I have to say having used both blind note takers and the mb pro/ the i-phone 
>> 3gs. I have found the  mb family of products to be much more accessible  to 
>> me as a vi person then the blind note takers. I still also have  my original 
>> qx 400 pac mate and let me tell you!. I cannot stand that damn note taker. 
>> So I mostly stopped using it and just used my windows base computer to read 
>> book share book or my victor reader stream or its sister companion  the 
>> victor reader vibe to read rfbd books.  I also own an romeo embosser so if I 
>> wanted something in a hard copy all I would have to do is to  emboss it and 
>> it is at my finger tips etc... 
>> However, I can understand how a blind note taker such as the braille note, 
>> braille sense or the a pax note taker from human ware would be just right 
>> for either one of you during such occasions  when it would be most needed.  
>> but why don't you try hooking it up to your mack book air to see if it would 
>> be much more easier to operate  at different functions that you might have 
>> to attend.  i hope this  helps.
>> sincerely, chenelle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread ISAAC OBIE

Neill,
You mean a usb memory stick? I saw the Macbook Air and I saw no place for a 
card. I only saw two usb ports, one on each side.

Isaac
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air



hello,

in case its not been mentioned, the new Air comes with a USB memory card 
8Gb which has the OS on it for reinstall purposes.

On 8 Nov 2010, at 09:12, Paul Erkens wrote:

Hi Mike,

This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?

- Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air


You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can 
use the shared drive.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Mary,

I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb 
memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, 
you get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do 
it if I can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is 
hardly enough.  Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K 
instead of GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel?


I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows 
world a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it 
surely is for me.


I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the 
Air, but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and 
let folks know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do 
it for sure.


Marlaina
On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Marlaina,
Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the 
possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for 
both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? 
I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the 
IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got 
the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up 
mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.


mary
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Re: Mb airs

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi chenelle,

I share the same elation you do with the Macbook. My friend switched to a 
Macbook and absolutely hated it, but I don't think she gave herself enough time 
to get used to it. It's really different from WIndows, but not if you think of 
it intuitively. I never realized how unintuitive Windows is till I switched to 
a Macbook. I have the Iphone 3GS, due ot the fact my Nokia kept dropping calls 
and refused to turn on one day. I love my 3GS, even though it's not the newest 
Iphone, I have digit-Eyes and navigon on there along with several other apps. 
You will love it! THank you for providing me with the info on the Apple 
wireless keyboard. I'm not sure if I remembered to  thank you, so I apologize 
if this is the first time I've said it. Have a great day.

Musically,
Allison

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On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

> chenelle

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Changing voice on Iphone for Mark

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Mark,

I have the Iphone 3GS and i love it. Here's how you change the voice, I haven't 
done this in a while, so if I'm missing a few steps, please correct me. Oh, I 
almost forgot when you look at the Iphone see if you can get someone sighted to 
turn VoiceOver on. You can do this from the Mac without sighted assistance, 
which is how I did it, but if you're looking at it in a store, there might not 
be a Mac around. To enable VoiceOver do the following:
1. Tap settings and then general.
2. THen tap accessibility and then tap VoiceOver.  A message will come up 
asking you if you want to enable VoiceOver since it changes the way the Iphone 
behaves or something like that. Have the person assisting you click okay. Once 
that is enabled, Samantha should start speaking. You can change the voice as I 
did to Karen by following the steps below. It's similar to turning VoiceOver on 
but not quite.

1. Double tap settings.
2. Double tap general.
3. Double tap international and there you will see a list of languages. If you  
flick with three fingers up towards the top of the screen you will navigate the 
rows faster. It's kind of like a scrolling motion. I think Australian is in the 
list in one of the first few rows. I hope I have helped and not confused you. 
Have a great day!

Allison


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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Cursor tracking is most definitely on.

Marlaina
On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Ok Is yoru curser tracking on. I don't know if that would make a difference but 
I was able to get to that menu. I'm jsut  thinking out loud here.

S
On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> I am in agreement. I would like to have the new mail notification turned off 
> on demand (I already have a chime for it). I would also like to be able to 
> drop the "blank blankk blank..." from all my new e-mails. it gets tiring 
> hearing information thats not relevant to what I want.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Maybe the apple folks read this list and can see how much folks seem not to 
>> like that feature of the 9 cagillion rows added, smile.  I sync my calendar 
>> via google, and it does the same thing every time I open it and it 
>> refreshes.  It makes me nuts.  Now there are some who might say that is a 
>> very short trip, LOL!
>> 
>> Marlaina 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>> 
>> HI there, 
>> Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, there's no way to turn off the 
>> notifications of new mail messages. 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you 
>>> who are so kind to give your time and knowledge.  I have a few situations 
>>> using apple mail I'd love to fix.  Here goes.
>>> 
>>> 1.  When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over 
>>> until all my mail is downloaded.  Please tell me I can turn that off!
>>> 
>>> 2.  Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an 
>>> email to my addressbook?  For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but 
>>> not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that?  My husband 
>>> took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was 
>>> macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right 
>>> which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to 
>>> addressbook.  How do I do that using vo?
>>> 
>>> 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move 
>>> it; I want to leave it in my inbox for now.  How do I close it and be 
>>> returned to my inbox list of messages?  Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to 
>>> reopen the inbox; I have to believe there is a better way!
>>> 
>>> 4.  I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete 
>>> it.  This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all 
>>> this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom 
>>> the next message was sent or its subject.  Can I make that stop?
>>> 
>>> 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one, 
>>> but I can't seem to find it.  I've done all sorts of itterations of turning 
>>> long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text, 
>>> and the list goes on!  It just escapes me!
>>> 
>>> 6.  I know what the attachment is and decide to save it.  I go to file and 
>>> save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't 
>>> read the name of the file.  Is there a way to hear that?
>>> 
>>> Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic.  However, I 
>>> would be so grateful for any insight people can give me.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
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Deselecting multiple tracks in Itunes

2010-11-08 Thread Ruud Bemelmans

Hi,

I was just familiarizing myself with Itunes and I was wondering about 
the following. Let's say I have an album with 16 tracks, but I only want 
to listen to two of these tracks. How do I go about deselecting the 
other tracks after I have selected them? I think it would get rather 
annoying having to deselect the tracks one by one while you can select 
all and hit VO-space to get all the tracks selected again. I imagine I'm 
simply overlooking a key combination here.


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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Well, I was tired when I sent that reply to you last night. 
I knew the command but I got mixed up. Sorry. I was gld to correct myself when 
you said something. 
On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hay Chantel, no worries.  It's frustrating me to bits that I can't get this 
> working, but I did get attachments working and that is a big hurrah, thanks 
> to this list and people like you!
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> 
> Oops. Right. I stand corrected. I've been using a mac for almost two years. 
> Sorry about that. 
> Ok, to find an attachment, go to the message headers by scrolling to the left 
> past the messages table. 
> Now, you will see a popup button. A popup button is the equivalent to a combo 
> box in windows. 
> This popup button gives the option to save the attachment in your downloads 
> folder. 
> Hth, 
> Chantel. 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:07 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Actually, that does not find the attachment; cmd shift a allows you to 
>> attach a file, but not find one that you have received that is attached.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>> 
>> HI there, 
>> Chantel again. 
>> To find an attachment, press command shift a in the mail window. Hth, 
>> Chantel. 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you 
>>> who are so kind to give your time and knowledge.  I have a few situations 
>>> using apple mail I'd love to fix.  Here goes.
>>> 
>>> 1.  When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over 
>>> until all my mail is downloaded.  Please tell me I can turn that off!
>>> 
>>> 2.  Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an 
>>> email to my addressbook?  For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but 
>>> not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that?  My husband 
>>> took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was 
>>> macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right 
>>> which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to 
>>> addressbook.  How do I do that using vo?
>>> 
>>> 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move 
>>> it; I want to leave it in my inbox for now.  How do I close it and be 
>>> returned to my inbox list of messages?  Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to 
>>> reopen the inbox; I have to believe there is a better way!
>>> 
>>> 4.  I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete 
>>> it.  This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all 
>>> this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom 
>>> the next message was sent or its subject.  Can I make that stop?
>>> 
>>> 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one, 
>>> but I can't seem to find it.  I've done all sorts of itterations of turning 
>>> long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text, 
>>> and the list goes on!  It just escapes me!
>>> 
>>> 6.  I know what the attachment is and decide to save it.  I go to file and 
>>> save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't 
>>> read the name of the file.  Is there a way to hear that?
>>> 
>>> Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic.  However, I 
>>> would be so grateful for any insight people can give me.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
Exactly. I usually hit the control key but most of the time I'm interacting 
with the table and only the subject column and most of the time I still am 
there so I just down arrow and hear the subject of the message.

Maybe this might help.

good luck.

s
On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> sometimes it can be a little too verbose when you don't want it to be.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> 
>> Marlaina,
>> 
>> Why would you want voice-over to "shut up"? Would that not defeat the reason 
>> for having voice-over?
>> 
>> Aloha, 
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click 
>> the off the bookshelf link 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marlaina
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
I'm putting your reply below your question.:

>> Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where by 
>> I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate places 
>> for messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I want to 
>> have is something where there is a separate mailbox where for example only 
>> mail from a certain email address goes, and I can choose to read emails or 
>> not, I want this mail only to go to only the mailbox that was created for 
>> it, so when I open mail I don't have to wade through a load of mailing list 
>> to find a mail from a friend who's writing to say hi. Is it possible to do 
>> all this using voice over?
> 
> Would really love to get this set up so any help greatly appreciated
> and thanks.
> 
> Kerie
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Hello. go to prefs when a  message is open and go to rules and then go to add. 
The reason I suggest that is some of the info is already filled in such as the 
too and other fields you might want. Follow the prompts. what I usually do is 
this.

name of rule: what ever you want.

contains

subject, or for this list to which is already filled.

move to what ever folder you want. create the folder before you create the rule 
though.

hit ok and if asked apply the rule.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Deselecting multiple tracks in Itunes

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
that I don't know. you have to hit vo space on the check box but there is to my 
limited knowledge a way to do this, I mean deselect the check boxes more then 1 
at a time.

that would be nice.

Oh wait. I just realized. you can select the ones you don't want and hit vo 
shift m after you interact with the selection and choose uncheck selection.

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Ruud Bemelmans wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I was just familiarizing myself with Itunes and I was wondering about the 
> following. Let's say I have an album with 16 tracks, but I only want to 
> listen to two of these tracks. How do I go about deselecting the other tracks 
> after I have selected them? I think it would get rather annoying having to 
> deselect the tracks one by one while you can select all and hit VO-space to 
> get all the tracks selected again. I imagine I'm simply overlooking a key 
> combination here.
> 
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Re: safari extensions

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
I like the youtube to html5 extention. that one is wonderful!

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:16 AM, chad baker wrote:

> Hi do you guys know of any safari extensions that are accessible?
> I' m looking for a weather and radio one.
> i currently have the weather channel but can't find the weather conditions.
> thanks
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Re: Deselecting multiple tracks in Itunes

2010-11-08 Thread Ruud Bemelmans
Ah, I didn't think of the context menu., but that works quite well. At 
least it makes it faster to get to the actual listening and enjoying bit.


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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks.  An Apple Air definitely 
will!

On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the 
> price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing 
> computer but a screenreader as well.
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
>> price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
>> about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
>> sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
>>> where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
>>> minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
>>> Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
>>> all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as 
>>> any other Macbook.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
The Asus E series have almost instant powerup.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's 
> doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of 
> course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose 
> by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences:
> 
> 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full 
> sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit 
> reduced, though. 
> 
> 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a 
> standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the 
> newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one 
> optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed.
> 
> 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. 
> --
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> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
>> price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
>> about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
>> sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
>>> where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
>>> minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
>>> Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
>>> all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as 
>>> any other Macbook.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
Or install over the network.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:

> So when the next OS after Snow Leopard comes out, you could ask for the OS on 
> a USB flash drive instead of DVD?
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
> 
>> comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore.
>> On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating 
>>> system?  If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new 
>>> VoiceOver features are in the next cat.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home.  So yes, if I needed to 
 use one, it would have to be an external.  Also, if you get an 11 inch 
 which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have 
 that built in but weight almost a pound more.  This old blind lady wants 
 lightweight in her dottage, smile!
 
 Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine!
 
 Marlaina
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm 
 guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for 
 one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not.
 
 S
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> Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile.  I sold my iPad to get it.  
> It does for me what  I 
> had hoped the iPad would do.  but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, 
> and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery 
> would be dead.  Pages told me after every character I typed that the word 
> was miss spelled.  So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g 
> or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled.  
> I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem.  I 
> really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this 
> Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing.  The battery lasts me 
> about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time 
> being typing time not reading time.  
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook 
> the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook 
> air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one 
> day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what 
> not.
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> 
>> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, 
>> NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth 
>> of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am 
>> ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but 
>> without all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely 
>> wonderful.
>>  
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 
>> 
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>> 
>> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible 
>> as any other Macbook.
>> 
>> Kevin
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Carolyn Haas
Scott:
I think that's putting too much on Apple.:)

If you can't get 'em in the first place, an Apple macbook Air won't help.:)
Really, I know they're like magic.  But, c'mon!:)


On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks.  An Apple Air 
> definitely will!
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the 
>> price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing 
>> computer but a screenreader as well.
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
>>> price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
>>> about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
>>> sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
 where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
 minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
 Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
 all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.

 
 Marlaina Lieberg
 
 
 1guide...@gmail.com
 
 On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
 
 The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as 
 any other Macbook.
 
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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Well, if I hooked up my apex to the Air, I'd be dealing with 2 separate 
devices.  And when I am quickly needing to find an item in a list of 80 items 
so I can edit it on the fly during a live event like our convention, I need 
speed and absolute accuracy.  With the apex, my fingers are all on one unit, 
jumping quickly from keyboard entry to braille display within a second or less. 
 I take your point about connecting the apex to the air to use it as a braille 
display and may find that somewhat useful in editing when I have the luxury of 
time.  And, can't say I blame you for not using your PackMate, smile!

My point is that if one can possibly find a way to have both, a good reliable 
notetaker such as BrailleNote Apex or BrailleSense and a wonderful small 
computer like the Air and the MacBook Pro both have their very separate and 
valuable place in competing and participating effectively in today's business 
environs.

Marlaina

On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

I have to say having used both blind note takers and the mb pro/ the i-phone 
3gs. I have found the  mb family of products to be much more accessible  to me 
as a vi person then the blind note takers. I still also have  my original qx 
400 pac mate and let me tell you!. I cannot stand that damn note taker. So I 
mostly stopped using it and just used my windows base computer to read book 
share book or my victor reader stream or its sister companion  the victor 
reader vibe to read rfbd books.  I also own an romeo embosser so if I wanted 
something in a hard copy all I would have to do is to  emboss it and it is at 
my finger tips etc... 
However, I can understand how a blind note taker such as the braille note, 
braille sense or the a pax note taker from human ware would be just right for 
either one of you during such occasions  when it would be most needed.  but why 
don't you try hooking it up to your mack book air to see if it would be much 
more easier to operate  at different functions that you might have to attend.  
i hope this  helps.
sincerely, chenelle

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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
hey one stupid question i think I asked but I can't remember. lol. How would 
you share your dvd drive from your mbp and if you have a mini or imac or mac 
pro could you do what ever you do with the mini to do that? I'm assuming you 
launch one of the devices in to target mode but I'm new at this.

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Scott:
> I think that's putting too much on Apple.:)
> 
> If you can't get 'em in the first place, an Apple macbook Air won't help.:)
> Really, I know they're like magic.  But, c'mon!:)
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks.  An Apple Air 
>> definitely will!
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the 
>>> price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing 
>>> computer but a screenreader as well.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
 price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
 about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
 sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
> where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
> minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
> Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
> all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.
>   
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 
> 
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
> 
> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible 
> as any other Macbook.
> 
> Kevin
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>>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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Re: Deselecting multiple tracks in Itunes

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
Tjere might be a better method but yeah I forgot about that until I was typing 
that at you all. lol!

S 
On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Ruud Bemelmans wrote:

> Ah, I didn't think of the context menu., but that works quite well. At least 
> it makes it faster to get to the actual listening and enjoying bit.
> 
> -- Ruud
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Moving music from iPod to the Mac

2010-11-08 Thread David Hole

Hi folks.
In fact, this can't be done without any tweaking(third party apps.
Have any one of you copied/moved files from your iPods/iPhones to the Mac?
I've seen this one: http://www.mypodapps.com/ but don't know how well it 
works. Anyone tried it?

Other alternatives that works better maybe?

-David

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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Donna Goodin
I like the notetakers because they give you a one-piece unit with braille.  I'm 
a voracious reader, and I'd always rather read myself than hear a book read out 
loud, so for me  a notetaker serves a real purpose.  I find having two 
different pieces cumbersome when you're reading while traveling and the like.  
I'll probably always keep a notetaker around, though any more I don't use it 
for much besides reading.
Donna
On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I thought I'd chime in here. Having used the BrailleNote, BT32, Pacmate, and 
> now Braillino I have to say if I were  going to college now, what I would use 
> is the Iphone for notes or my Macbook combined with the Braillino as a 
> Braille display. I hope the Braillino will be supported soon for the Iphone. 
> I can see where the notetakers for the blind would have their place though. I 
> do better  taking notes on the fly in grade two. If someone is dictating 
> something really fast or I have to write something down before I forget I do 
> better in braille but that's just me. I use the Braillino's notetaking 
> function at work, to fill out forms etc. But have started using the Braillino 
> as a Braille display through Window-eyes and using the computer to do the 
> functions I previously deligated to the Braillino. 
> 
> Cheerfully,
> Allison
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I have used a pacmate too, I hate it, it is heavy. But I am so happy to use 
>> my IPhone/Ipod together with my focus 40 blue braille display. I also use my 
>> braille display on my mac computer, it really works great.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>> 
>>> I have to say having used both blind note takers and the mb pro/ the 
>>> i-phone 3gs. I have found the  mb family of products to be much more 
>>> accessible  to me as a vi person then the blind note takers. I still also 
>>> have  my original qx 400 pac mate and let me tell you!. I cannot stand that 
>>> damn note taker. So I mostly stopped using it and just used my windows base 
>>> computer to read book share book or my victor reader stream or its sister 
>>> companion  the victor reader vibe to read rfbd books.  I also own an romeo 
>>> embosser so if I wanted something in a hard copy all I would have to do is 
>>> to  emboss it and it is at my finger tips etc... 
>>> However, I can understand how a blind note taker such as the braille note, 
>>> braille sense or the a pax note taker from human ware would be just right 
>>> for either one of you during such occasions  when it would be most needed.  
>>> but why don't you try hooking it up to your mack book air to see if it 
>>> would be much more easier to operate  at different functions that you might 
>>> have to attend.  i hope this  helps.
>>> sincerely, chenelle
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re;what is nvda?.

2010-11-08 Thread Chenelle Hancock


Sent from my iPhonehi Brian miller,nvda is an open sourced screen reader for 
windows computers. You. Can use it on your computer like jaws but it does more 
things as far as reading text in pages that you want read. It won't everything 
on the page like jaw does. Yu download to your hard drive of your computer and 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
It is a USB stick, yes.
On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:09 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote:

Neill,
You mean a usb memory stick? I saw the Macbook Air and I saw no place for a 
card. I only saw two usb ports, one on each side.
Isaac
- Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air


> hello,
> 
> in case its not been mentioned, the new Air comes with a USB memory card 8Gb 
> which has the OS on it for reinstall purposes.
> On 8 Nov 2010, at 09:12, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
> macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
> 
> 
> You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use 
> the shared drive.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb 
>> memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you 
>> get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I 
>> can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough.  
>> Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, 
>> do you think I am tired from travel?
>> 
>> I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows world a 
>> netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it surely is for me.
>> 
>> I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
>> concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, 
>> but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks 
>> know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> Marlaina,
>> Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the 
>> possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for 
>> both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd 
>> be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad 
>> mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air 
>> with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast 
>> when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.
>> 
>> mary
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: Re;what is nvda?.

2010-11-08 Thread Isaac Obie

Hello Chenelle,
Your messages start out with "sent from my iphone" then the message is run 
together with sent from my iphone. I just thought you'd like to know this.

Isaac

- Original Message - 
From: "Chenelle Hancock" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re;what is nvda?.




Sent from my iPhonehi Brian miller,nvda is an open sourced screen reader for 
windows computers. You. Can use it on your computer like jaws but it does 
more things as far as reading text in pages that you want read. It won't 
everything on the page like jaw does. Yu download to your hard drive of your 
computer and it would be ready to go. I hope this helps Brian. Chenelle


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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Pete Nalda
Yeah, that's another advantage of the Air.  So, for $900, you get Style, solid 
performance, *and* a free screenreader, and magnification program.

On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks.  An Apple Air 
> definitely will!
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the 
>> price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing 
>> computer but a screenreader as well.
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
>>> price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
>>> about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
>>> sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
 where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
 minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
 Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
 all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.

 
 Marlaina Lieberg
 
 
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 On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
 
 The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as 
 any other Macbook.
 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread ISAAC OBIE

Pete,
It's a thousand bucks! I priced it last week! that $900 figure is 
missleading. It's a thousand bucks. It's $999.

It's a neat little package! I want one.
Isaac
- Original Message - 
From: "Pete Nalda" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air


Yeah, that's another advantage of the Air.  So, for $900, you get Style, 
solid performance, *and* a free screenreader, and magnification program.


On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks.  An Apple Air 
definitely will!


On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add 
the price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice 
performing computer but a screenreader as well.


On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook 
the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook 
air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one 
day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what 
not.

On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, 
NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth 
of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I 
am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro 
but without all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is 
absolutely wonderful.



Marlaina Lieberg


1guide...@gmail.com

On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as 
accessible as any other Macbook.


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Magnification:

2010-11-08 Thread louie
Hi all,
My oldest daughter is coming to be with me this sumer.
She is low vision and uses Magnification software on her PC.
She want to see Magnification on a Mac.
How do I turn Magnification on?
Thank you for any help.

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Re: some newbie mac questions - item chooser

2010-11-08 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Tim,  I'm not sure how to test this without sighted assistance, but if it's 
true, it's a bug.  
on the other hand it makes a bit of sense.  I think I remember reading 
somewhere in this thread that Marlena had 800 contacts and then somewhere else 
that the IC was only showing 40 items or some such.  So then it's pretty clear 
that some of the contacts are getting into the IC, but not all.  NOt by a long 
shot.

So there in lies our problem most probably.  I'll cc this to apple 
accessibility and see what they say.

Best,

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On 2010-11-04, at 9:48 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Marlaina,
> 
> What I've noticed with Address Book and the Address Panel within Mail itself 
> is that the Item chooser seems to only work for what it can see within the 
> Table.  Maybe Eric can correct me on this but I've been playing with it as 
> well and appear to have the same problems you do.  I've never used Address 
> Book with the Item Chooser so this is a new one to me.  I usually just 
> Interact with the Names Table then type the first couple letters of the name 
> of the person I wish to get contact info on then navigate to the Contact Info 
> Scroll area.  That's been the fastest method for me.  That's not to say 
> though that others haven't found faster ways for themselves.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2010-11-04, at 7:42 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Yah, but with almost 800 contacts, I gotta make that work better, smile.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: some newbie mac questions - item chooser
>> 
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Idem chooser is for the web. If you've properly imported your contacts in 
>> address book, which is a pain in the butt, you should have a table with all 
>> of your contacts listed as rows. You interact with the table, and vo down 
>> arrow to read each card.
>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok; I think I am not getting something here.  I'm in addressbook on my
>>> macAir and I brought up item chooser; it said 30 items; I started typing
>>> gary and it said go left.  What did I not do?
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "erik burggraaf" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: some newbie mac questions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, see comments below.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in
>>> person,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-04, at 11:12 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 1.  I need to know how to efficiently navigate calendar and addressbook.
 In
 calendar for example, when I do control shit t and then get my date I 
 want
 to view entered, I hear nothing and when I vo right or left, I'm back to
 today's date.  Also, entering appointments is weird for me because I
 haven't
 quite figured out how to know whether I'm on the month chooser, the day 
 or
 the year, and then we add in the time.  It doesn't seem to be consistent
 that one right arrow takes me to month, 2 to day, 3 to year and 4 to 
 time.
 Yeh, I'm not really sure how to help with this.  I'm sure I have the
 answer but not really how to communicate it.  The inconsistancy in the
 date and time control could be because it remembers where you left off.
 so, if you only set the month and the day for an appointment, when you 
 get
 back to the date control it will still be on day instead of starting back
 at year.  It's definitely not inconsistant so something in the logic of
 how these things work is off.
>>> 
 I am still at a loss to efficiently navigate to a contact in addressbook.
 I'm at such a loss, in fact, I can't even tell you what I can't do, 
 smile!
 This one is easy.  Press vo I for the item chooser menu.  You can then
 start typing.  If you type the first few letters of any piece of info the
 item chooser will pull up everything that has that info.  Typing lie will
 give you all the liebergs.  Typing mar will give you all the marlenas and
 margarets and marys.  Even if you have hundreds or thousands of contacts,
 the item chooser will still get you to the vcard you want in seconds.  If
 you then want their work phone, go back to the item chooser and type 
 work.
 If you want their home address go to the item chooser and type home.  The
 item chooser may in fact be even more useful in calendar and address book
 than it is in safari, and that is really saying something.
>>> 
 2.  Occasionally I need to copy then paste things from a website, such as
 a
 recipe.  I cannot consistently do this

Re: some newbie mac questions - item chooser

2010-11-08 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Marlena.

You wrote.
Thank you again for all you are doing.  Your tutorials are wonderful, and 
may I suggest you consider sending them into ACB Radio's Main Menu where 
this weekend, all things iPhone will be discussed.


You're welcome and I'm happy you enjoyed it and found it helpful.  I make money 
providing computer training and support services though.  So, I'd want to take 
a lot more time and preparation over anything that was going out somewhere for 
public consumption.  This was just a slap-dash effort for use by the group, and 
I'll pull it down in a bit since it turns out to be pretty poorly researched as 
well as being amaturishly recorded and all that nonsense, smiles.

At least the method does work except for the  unfortunate detraction that it 
only scoops up the contacts that are on the screen.  I'm going to test this in 
other areas where I use the item chooser and see if the bug appears in those as 
well as in addressbook.

Best,

 Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-11-04, at 9:09 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Erik,
> 
> You have nothing to be shy about!  Your tutorial is really really good. 
> Only problem is it's not working for me yet.
> 
> I follow you step-by-step, get to the name table, do vo-i, type in k a r to 
> find my karen contacts, and I get Bob and Kathy, every single time.  I have 
> done cmd-1 to ensure card column view is checked, but when I go into the 
> view menu, I don't get an indication that it is really checked.  I've looked 
> all through the toolbar choices to find where on earth to tell this thing to 
> be sure to have card column view, thinking that's my issue.  But, I can't 
> find anywhere to do that.  What on earth am I screwing up?  And, indeed I 
> can arrow up and down, but who wants to do that, smile!
> 
> Thank you again for all you are doing.  Your tutorials are wonderful, and 
> may I suggest you consider sending them into ACB Radio's Main Menu where 
> this weekend, all things iPhone will be discussed.
> 
> Marlaina
> - Original Message - 
> From: "erik burggraaf" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: some newbie mac questions - item chooser
> 
> 
> OK,  You know the old saying, a tutorial is worth a thousand emails.
> 
> Try this.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1291668/addressbook.mp3
> 
> 
> I'm a bit mic shy, so maybe it will be no help at all,  but maybe it will 
> give you a better idea what's supposed to happen.
> 
> Best,
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
> person,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2010-11-04, at 4:02 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Erik,
>> 
>> Ok so I do cmd-1 and it says card and column then i do vo-i and I still
>> don't get anywhere.  I have never used item chooser until today; is there
>> something basic I need to know first about using item chooser?  what 
>> happens
>> to me now is this:
>> 
>> I do cmd-1 vo-i it says item chooser 42 items.  I then start typing karen 
>> to
>> pull up all my karens and I land up on something that is part of the card
>> for doctor jackson, my lung doctor who is a man and would shutter to think
>> his first name was karen!  
>> 
>> Thank you for your patience as I try to catch up with the expert knowledge
>> on this list!
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "erik burggraaf" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: some newbie mac questions - item chooser
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, try pressing command 1 and then go to the item chooser.
>> 
>> Let me know how it goes.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in
>> person,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2010-11-04, at 12:43 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok; I think I am not getting something here.  I'm in addressbook on my
>>> macAir and I brought up item chooser; it said 30 items; I started typing
>>> gary and it said go left.  What did I not do?
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "erik burggraaf" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: some newbie mac questions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, see comments below.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in
>>> person,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-04, at 11:12 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 1.  I need to know how to efficiently navigate calendar and addressbook.
 In
 calendar for example, when I do control shit t and then get my date I
 want
 to view entered, I hear nothing and when I vo right or left, I'm back to
 today's date.  Also, entering app

Re: text books

2010-11-08 Thread erik burggraaf
You could also try your public library.  I don't know about yours, but I can 
use my library card to read things like ORily online.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2010-11-05, at 5:44 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> I believe that entourage edge has a good selection of textbooks
> available.  I am not familiar  with their protection  requirements,
> but I do know a linux developer that works for them.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On 05/11/2010, May McDonald  wrote:
>> Hi, does anyone know of a good accessible site to get text books in EBook
>> format?
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Re: accessible filesharing client

2010-11-08 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi,  What about utorrent or shakespeer?

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On 2010-11-06, at 5:54 AM, chad baker wrote:

> Hi does anyone know of any accessible file sharing client??
> i tried acquision but wasn't vo friendly.
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Fusion Question: Interactng with Virtual Machine

2010-11-08 Thread Joshua Loya
Hello,
I successfully installed Fusion, and created a virtual Win XP Machine. (I only 
wanted it for purposes of gaming and SAMNet.) How do I interact with the 
virtual machine? All the keystrokes I can think of only affect Fusion specific 
commands, not commands for my virtual machine.

Thanks,
Joshua

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Re: text books

2010-11-08 Thread Justin Thornton
you could check in to course smart
very good for mainstream textbooks especially for college
and you only pay 1/3 of the price your paying for a print book
and get a fully accessible marked up pdf
I am sorry buts that all I know as of now!! for people I have spoken with
they say its nice!!
On Nov 6, 2010, at 11:13 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> You could also try your public library.  I don't know about yours, but I can 
> use my library card to read things like ORily online.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person,
> 1-888-255-5194
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> 
> On 2010-11-05, at 5:44 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> 
>> I believe that entourage edge has a good selection of textbooks
>> available.  I am not familiar  with their protection  requirements,
>> but I do know a linux developer that works for them.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> On 05/11/2010, May McDonald  wrote:
>>> Hi, does anyone know of a good accessible site to get text books in EBook
>>> format?
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pairing Alva BC640 with Macbook Pro?

2010-11-08 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

Anyone done this recently?  I just got my Alva back from being serviced, and 
I'm having no luck getting it paired.  

thanks in advance for any help.
Best,
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Re: pairing Alva BC640 with Macbook Pro?

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi DOnna,

I don't have an Alva but I did have to pair my Braillino. I  went through VO 
utilities and it refused to pair. It kept saying that there was a driver issue 
or something like that. I found the best way to pair was to go to bluetooth 
settings by pressing VO shift M as in mary twice. THen you right arrow till you 
hear bluetooth. THen VO space on that.  You arrow down till it says set up new 
device or something like that. Select that and try to pair. If the Alva has a 
specific pairing code, like the Braillino does, you select the radio button  
that says specific code enter the code and hit pair or connect. I'm sorry I 
forget what the button is called offhand. I know I had to do this a few times 
with Earle's help from Handytech with the Braillino. For some reason my VO 
utility doesn't like pairing the Braille display. BUt once it's paired via 
bluetooth it's fine. I hope that helps. I love my Braillino and use it everyday 
as a Braille display and notetaker at work. Have a great day.

Sincerely,
Allison

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> Hi all,
> 
> Anyone done this recently?  I just got my Alva back from being serviced, and 
> I'm having no luck getting it paired.  
> 
> thanks in advance for any help.
> Best,
> Donna
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Austin Seraphin
Perhaps someone already said this. To turn off a bunch of the "blank blank 
blank" when reading mail:
1. Hit Vo-M and go to the View menu.
2. Arrow down to the Columns submenu.
3. Hit the right arrow and you will see checkboxes for all the things it can 
show. Uncheck any that don't seem relevant. That will at least cut down on the 
blanks.

On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> I am in agreement. I would like to have the new mail notification turned off 
> on demand (I already have a chime for it). I would also like to be able to 
> drop the "blank blankk blank..." from all my new e-mails. it gets tiring 
> hearing information thats not relevant to what I want.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Maybe the apple folks read this list and can see how much folks seem not to 
>> like that feature of the 9 cagillion rows added, smile.  I sync my calendar 
>> via google, and it does the same thing every time I open it and it 
>> refreshes.  It makes me nuts.  Now there are some who might say that is a 
>> very short trip, LOL!
>> 
>> Marlaina 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>> 
>> HI there, 
>> Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, there's no way to turn off the 
>> notifications of new mail messages. 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you 
>>> who are so kind to give your time and knowledge.  I have a few situations 
>>> using apple mail I'd love to fix.  Here goes.
>>> 
>>> 1.  When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over 
>>> until all my mail is downloaded.  Please tell me I can turn that off!
>>> 
>>> 2.  Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an 
>>> email to my addressbook?  For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but 
>>> not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that?  My husband 
>>> took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was 
>>> macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right 
>>> which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to 
>>> addressbook.  How do I do that using vo?
>>> 
>>> 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move 
>>> it; I want to leave it in my inbox for now.  How do I close it and be 
>>> returned to my inbox list of messages?  Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to 
>>> reopen the inbox; I have to believe there is a better way!
>>> 
>>> 4.  I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete 
>>> it.  This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all 
>>> this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom 
>>> the next message was sent or its subject.  Can I make that stop?
>>> 
>>> 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one, 
>>> but I can't seem to find it.  I've done all sorts of itterations of turning 
>>> long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text, 
>>> and the list goes on!  It just escapes me!
>>> 
>>> 6.  I know what the attachment is and decide to save it.  I go to file and 
>>> save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't 
>>> read the name of the file.  Is there a way to hear that?
>>> 
>>> Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic.  However, I 
>>> would be so grateful for any insight people can give me.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
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Re: Magnification:

2010-11-08 Thread Bryan Jones
Hi Louie,
The magnification feature built into OSX is called "Zoom." You can turn Zoom on 
in System Preferences / Universal Access, or use the following key combinations:
To toggle Zoom on and off, press Command + Option + 8
To zoom in, press Command + Option + =
To zoom out, press Command + Option + -
For contrast options, you can also toggle the screen between what Apple calls 
"White on Black" and "Black on White" by pressing Command + Option + Control + 
8.

Note that all of these can be used in conjunction with VoiceOver on the Mac, 
while on the i-devices you are currently limited to using either VO or Zoom, 
not both together unfortunately.

HTH,
Bryan

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> Hi all,
> My oldest daughter is coming to be with me this sumer.
> She is low vision and uses Magnification software on her PC.
> She want to see Magnification on a Mac.
> How do I turn Magnification on?
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> louie
> louiem...@wavecable.com
> 
> 
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Re: pairing Alva BC640 with Macbook Pro?

2010-11-08 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Allison,

thanks.  I'm thinking the code may be the problem.  On my Mac, running Snow 
Leopard, there is no radio button to check that allows me to input the  pairing 
code.
Anyone know where I might locate this?
Thanks,
Donna
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi DOnna,
> 
> I don't have an Alva but I did have to pair my Braillino. I  went through VO 
> utilities and it refused to pair. It kept saying that there was a driver 
> issue or something like that. I found the best way to pair was to go to 
> bluetooth settings by pressing VO shift M as in mary twice. THen you right 
> arrow till you hear bluetooth. THen VO space on that.  You arrow down till it 
> says set up new device or something like that. Select that and try to pair. 
> If the Alva has a specific pairing code, like the Braillino does, you select 
> the radio button  that says specific code enter the code and hit pair or 
> connect. I'm sorry I forget what the button is called offhand. I know I had 
> to do this a few times with Earle's help from Handytech with the Braillino. 
> For some reason my VO utility doesn't like pairing the Braille display. BUt 
> once it's paired via bluetooth it's fine. I hope that helps. I love my 
> Braillino and use it everyday as a Braille display and notetaker at work. 
> Have a great day.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
> 
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Anyone done this recently?  I just got my Alva back from being serviced, and 
>> I'm having no luck getting it paired.  
>> 
>> thanks in advance for any help.
>> Best,
>> Donna
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Re:Got it, pairing Alva BC640 with Macbook Pro?

2010-11-08 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

It's been so long since I've done this that I forgot that I needed to do it 
from within the Braille tab of the Vo utility.  All is working fine now.  
Allison, thanks for your message.
Take care,
Donna
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi DOnna,
> 
> I don't have an Alva but I did have to pair my Braillino. I  went through VO 
> utilities and it refused to pair. It kept saying that there was a driver 
> issue or something like that. I found the best way to pair was to go to 
> bluetooth settings by pressing VO shift M as in mary twice. THen you right 
> arrow till you hear bluetooth. THen VO space on that.  You arrow down till it 
> says set up new device or something like that. Select that and try to pair. 
> If the Alva has a specific pairing code, like the Braillino does, you select 
> the radio button  that says specific code enter the code and hit pair or 
> connect. I'm sorry I forget what the button is called offhand. I know I had 
> to do this a few times with Earle's help from Handytech with the Braillino. 
> For some reason my VO utility doesn't like pairing the Braille display. BUt 
> once it's paired via bluetooth it's fine. I hope that helps. I love my 
> Braillino and use it everyday as a Braille display and notetaker at work. 
> Have a great day.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
> 
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Anyone done this recently?  I just got my Alva back from being serviced, and 
>> I'm having no luck getting it paired.  
>> 
>> thanks in advance for any help.
>> Best,
>> Donna
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Re: Changing voice on Iphone for Mark

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel Rowe
Hi.
I just want to add that since version 4, you can  change voices without 
changing the international settings.
In the voiceOver part of settings, scroll down to language rotor.  Find each 
voice you want and double tap it.  When you selected all the voices you'd like 
to use, close the settings app.  They're now be a language option in the rotor. 
 With that selected, flicking up and down will cycle through all the voices 
you've selected.

Hope this helps

Dannie

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> Hi Mark,
> 
> I have the Iphone 3GS and i love it. Here's how you change the voice, I 
> haven't done this in a while, so if I'm missing a few steps, please correct 
> me. Oh, I almost forgot when you look at the Iphone see if you can get 
> someone sighted to turn VoiceOver on. You can do this from the Mac without 
> sighted assistance, which is how I did it, but if you're looking at it in a 
> store, there might not be a Mac around. To enable VoiceOver do the following:
> 1. Tap settings and then general.
> 2. THen tap accessibility and then tap VoiceOver.  A message will come up 
> asking you if you want to enable VoiceOver since it changes the way the 
> Iphone behaves or something like that. Have the person assisting you click 
> okay. Once that is enabled, Samantha should start speaking. You can change 
> the voice as I did to Karen by following the steps below. It's similar to 
> turning VoiceOver on but not quite.
> 
> 1. Double tap settings.
> 2. Double tap general.
> 3. Double tap international and there you will see a list of languages. If 
> you  flick with three fingers up towards the top of the screen you will 
> navigate the rows faster. It's kind of like a scrolling motion. I think 
> Australian is in the list in one of the first few rows. I hope I have helped 
> and not confused you. Have a great day!
> 
> Allison
> 
> 
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Getting rid of DropBox

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel K. Gartmann


Hi,

Has anybody tried deleting the DropBox application from the MAC yet?

When I go to the application in the applications folder and choose the 
"move to trash" option, I get the message that the program is open so it 
can't be trashed.


Now, when I go ahead and do a cmd+o to open it, I get the message saying 
that "DropBox has no windows" and I can't do anything to close the program.


I think that some info is escaping VO, so therefore this question here 
on this list.


Could be a general procedure that I am doing wrong here.

Hope to hear from someone who managed to delete the application.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

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Re: Got it, pairing Alva BC640 with Macbook Pro?

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Donna,

I'm glad you got it working yay! You didn't need my instructions after all. 
Good job that VO Utilities pairs your Braille display. It is finicky about mine 
for some reason. But I have paired the Handytech via bluettoth and it works. I 
hope  you are having a wonderful day.

Musically,
Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> It's been so long since I've done this that I forgot that I needed to do it 
> from within the Braille tab of the Vo utility.  All is working fine now.  
> Allison, thanks for your message.
> Take care,
> Donna
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi DOnna,
>> 
>> I don't have an Alva but I did have to pair my Braillino. I  went through VO 
>> utilities and it refused to pair. It kept saying that there was a driver 
>> issue or something like that. I found the best way to pair was to go to 
>> bluetooth settings by pressing VO shift M as in mary twice. THen you right 
>> arrow till you hear bluetooth. THen VO space on that.  You arrow down till 
>> it says set up new device or something like that. Select that and try to 
>> pair. If the Alva has a specific pairing code, like the Braillino does, you 
>> select the radio button  that says specific code enter the code and hit pair 
>> or connect. I'm sorry I forget what the button is called offhand. I know I 
>> had to do this a few times with Earle's help from Handytech with the 
>> Braillino. For some reason my VO utility doesn't like pairing the Braille 
>> display. BUt once it's paired via bluetooth it's fine. I hope that helps. I 
>> love my Braillino and use it everyday as a Braille display and notetaker at 
>> work. Have a great day.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Anyone done this recently?  I just got my Alva back from being serviced, 
>>> and I'm having no luck getting it paired.  
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance for any help.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
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Re: Getting rid of DropBox

2010-11-08 Thread Hai Nguyen
Good afternoon Daniel, 
In order to remove the dropbox application, you will need to first stop the 
running process, since Dropbox is a service that runs in the background.
To do this, navigate to the utilities folder from the finder by pressing 
command+shift+u.
Next, navigate to the activity monitor application and open it.
In activity monitor, navigate to the processes table and start typing in 
dropbox. This should highlight the dropbox process in the table.
Vo to the left to the toolbar and interact with the toolbar. Navigate to the 
right to the quit process button and press VO space. You should be presented 
with a dialog asking you if you really want to quit the process. Once you 
confirm this dialog, you should be able to delete the dropbox application from 
your machine.
hth
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anybody tried deleting the DropBox application from the MAC yet?
> 
> When I go to the application in the applications folder and choose the "move 
> to trash" option, I get the message that the program is open so it can't be 
> trashed.
> 
> Now, when I go ahead and do a cmd+o to open it, I get the message saying that 
> "DropBox has no windows" and I can't do anything to close the program.
> 
> I think that some info is escaping VO, so therefore this question here on 
> this list.
> 
> Could be a general procedure that I am doing wrong here.
> 
> Hope to hear from someone who managed to delete the application.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Daniel
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Re: Getting rid of DropBox

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
The shortcut for quit process at least in snl is cmd option q. I forgot where I 
got that piece of info but there ya go. Good luck in uninstalling.

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote:

> Good afternoon Daniel, 
> In order to remove the dropbox application, you will need to first stop the 
> running process, since Dropbox is a service that runs in the background.
> To do this, navigate to the utilities folder from the finder by pressing 
> command+shift+u.
> Next, navigate to the activity monitor application and open it.
> In activity monitor, navigate to the processes table and start typing in 
> dropbox. This should highlight the dropbox process in the table.
> Vo to the left to the toolbar and interact with the toolbar. Navigate to the 
> right to the quit process button and press VO space. You should be presented 
> with a dialog asking you if you really want to quit the process. Once you 
> confirm this dialog, you should be able to delete the dropbox application 
> from your machine.
> hth
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anybody tried deleting the DropBox application from the MAC yet?
>> 
>> When I go to the application in the applications folder and choose the "move 
>> to trash" option, I get the message that the program is open so it can't be 
>> trashed.
>> 
>> Now, when I go ahead and do a cmd+o to open it, I get the message saying 
>> that "DropBox has no windows" and I can't do anything to close the program.
>> 
>> I think that some info is escaping VO, so therefore this question here on 
>> this list.
>> 
>> Could be a general procedure that I am doing wrong here.
>> 
>> Hope to hear from someone who managed to delete the application.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Daniel
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iPhone translation apps [was Re: English-Spanish translation redux]

2010-11-08 Thread Esther

Hi Dean and Brian,

I haven't wanted to weigh in with a suggestion for a Spanish  
translation app, since I have only rudimentary knowledge of Spanish,  
but if you're looking for a translation app that runs through Google  
Translate (with all the usual limitations and caveats about machine  
translation and the need to use this through an internet connection),  
I can certainly recommend a more accessible alternative, with more  
features, at least based on my reading of the description of  
iTranslate - Spanish from Bizmosis, Inc.  I'll describe three apps:  
iTranslate -- the universal translator (free, but $1.99 to buy a voice  
through in-app purchase to have translations read out with text to  
speech) by Sonico GmbH, iSpeak Spanish ($1.99) by FutureApps, and  
Trippo Voice Translator Plus (free for text-to-text translations, free  
trial text-to-speech use for 14 days, extendable by in-app purchase;  
$4.99 for permanent license) by Cellictica.  All three are available  
internationally, and probably one the first two would be best suited  
for Brian's translation needs. I'm going to cc this to the  
Macvisionaries list, since it may be of wider interest, even though  
this answer is specific to the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad.


• iTranslate -- the universal translator by Sonico GmbH
For a general purpose app based on Google Translate, I'd recommend  
iTranslate -- the universal translator by Sonico GmbH.  It does  
require an internet connection to use, and it's for text based input  
and translated output, however you can purchase a Loquendo voice for  
text to speech for $1.99 to read out your translated text. These  
voices are very good quality. The iTranslate app itself is free, and  
it can handle translations in 52 languages with voice options to  
support text to speech in 17 languages.  There are 3 Castilian Spanish  
voices (1 male, 2 female) and 2 American Spanish voices (1 male, 1  
female) to choose from.  You don't have to turn VoiceOver off at any  
point to access the text boxes. If you want to listen to the text to  
speech version and you have purchased a voice, you just flick right to  
the "IMG speaker touch" button that follows the text box for the  
translated field.  (I usually mute VoiceOver with a three finger  
double tap after I've flicked to the button, and just before I double  
tap that button so that it's announcement doesn't obscure the  
beginning of the translated speech, then I unmute with another three  
finger double tap).  If you want to mail, text message, or tweet the  
translated text, or to save it to history (if you purchased the "plus"  
version upgrade for $0.99 that allows you save a history of your  
translation inputs and outputs), you just flick right again to the  
"IMG action touch" button and double tap. A menu comes up with options  
for Save (with the plus version of the app), Email, SMS, Twitter, and  
Copy. If you double tap "Email", for example, the translated text is  
included in the body of an Email message.  I would recommend that you  
get iTranslate Plus version of the app for $0.99, which will keep a  
history of your recent translations and also allow you save and  
organize your translations into favorites lists by categories that you  
can customize.  If you want to start by getting the free version of  
the app, you can upgrade to the iTranslate Plus version by in-app  
purchase.  However, if you ever need to restore the app on your  
device, you're going to have to remember to get the free app and  
update it by in-app purchase.  If it were me, I would simply buy the  
iTranslate Plus version (for $0.99) directly -- even if I first tried  
out the free version of the app, so as not to get charged again if you  
end up trying to restore the paid version. If you have the "plus"  
option, if you flick right past the "IMG action touch" button you'll  
reach the "Favorites" button in the bottom left corner. This allows  
you to access your history and the favorites you saved.  Finally,  
there is an "Info" button in the bottom right corner that lets you  
access your Add-ons and Settings.  For example, you can control the  
voice rate with a slider from the "Voices" setting, determine whether  
you want Auto Correction or Auto Capitalization set on or off for your  
text entries under the "Keyboard" setting, and  increase the Font size  
of the input text (if you are a low vision user) in the "Font Size"  
setting.  The "Text-to-Speech" entry under Add-ons lets you browse  
samples of all the voices available for in-app purchase.  Otherwise,  
if you simply double tap the "IMG speaker touch" button beside your  
translated text and you haven't purchased a voice, you'll be shown a  
menu of sample voices for that language. The button won't appear for  
languages without a supported voice.  I gave a full description of the  
layout of all controls on the iTranslate Plus screen in my archived  
list post "Chinese Input with VoiceOver 

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
If you're still having problems, perhaps we can hop on skype, and I'll see what 
I can do to help you.
On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok, that works but once I hear it say to macvisionar...@gmail.com, I can't vo 
> space because it just beeps; if I add the shift, as I've said, I get message 
> properties.  I thank all of you for trying to help me get this figured out.  
> I have so many apple mail questions, I'm sorry to be taking up so much list 
> time stuck on this one!
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> Marlaina, when you hear it say tab, don't vo right. Vo down. You will get to 
> the other fields that way.
> 
> Mary
> 
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
You'll get there, take your time, you don't ahve to everything in one day, make 
the switch a little at a time, and eventually it will become second nature. The 
mac and voice over do things differently than windows and the windows screen 
readers.
On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Sarah, I still often do shows.  And if I ever get to where I feel I know a 
> tenth of what some of you know, I may just do one on how I made the switch 
> from windows to Mac and why.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> Now that's odd? I'll have to play with it or maybe someone will beat me to 
> it. Hmm.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> BTW did you not used to a radio show about 6 years ago? you can write me off 
> list to answer that one. .lol. 
> Sarah Alawami
> MSN: marri...@gmail.com 
> aim: marri...@gmail.com:
> 
> website: http://music.marrie.org
> face book: facebook.com/marrie
> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/
> 
> The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Marlaina, when you hear it say tab, don't vo right. Vo down. You will get to 
>> the other fields that way.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Fusion Question: Interactng with Virtual Machine

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
Pres command option enter for full screen then move around normally or I 
believe it's command g to enter in a subset of the screen.

On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Hello,
> I successfully installed Fusion, and created a virtual Win XP Machine. (I 
> only wanted it for purposes of gaming and SAMNet.) How do I interact with the 
> virtual machine? All the keystrokes I can think of only affect Fusion 
> specific commands, not commands for my virtual machine.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joshua
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
Right, it
s not as good as the Mac Book Pro for the chick application but it definitely 
works.


On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Yeah, that's another advantage of the Air.  So, for $900, you get Style, 
> solid performance, *and* a free screenreader, and magnification program.
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks.  An Apple Air 
>> definitely will!
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the 
>>> price of Accessibility.  For $1000 you get not only a nice performing 
>>> computer but a screenreader as well.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook the 
 price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is 
 about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one day. They 
 sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not.
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV 
> where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of 
> minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am ACB 
> Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without 
> all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful.
>   
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 
> 
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
> 
> The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible 
> as any other Macbook.
> 
> Kevin
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Re: Setting up the weather app [was Re: iphone 4g and 3gs]

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
Here's another clue that might help you go through email faster, perhaps ou 
already do this, but, in the inbox, interact with the messages table, and place 
the voice over cursor on the subject column. Now you can just arrow up and down 
and hear the subject of each message without all the extra information, unless 
of course, you like to hear everything.
On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Allison,
> 
> I have learned so much from this list in just a few short days.  I, too save 
> their messages because they are gems.
> 
> You will love the weather app.  I surely do.
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
> Hi Ester,
> 
> Thank you so much, I was able to configure the weather app with multiple 
> cities as per your instructions. I'm going to save this message in my Apple 
> folder. I have a lot of them saved, so I don't keep asking the same questions 
> that might have been previously asked on this list. Thank you again. I hope 
> you are having a wonderful weekend.
> 
> Musically,
> Allison
> 
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Allison and Others,
>> 
>> I also use the Australian voice (Karen) on my iPhone, although I'm in the 
>> U.S. The weather app reports for whatever location you set, regardless of 
>> the voice you use or the region format that you chose in Settings > General 
>> > International > Region Format.  You'll have to add your city (and 
>> optionally delete the ones that are in the app, if you don't want to hear 
>> those weather reports).
>> 
>> To add the city or cities of your choice for weather reporting:
>> 1. Double tap the "Edit Cities" button in the bottom right corner of your 
>> screen.
>> 2. You'll be on a screen called "Weather" with focus on the "Add" button in 
>> the top left corner.  If you flick right or do a two finger flick down "Read 
>> All" gesture you'll hear a list of city locations currently selected for 
>> your weather app.  One of these will be Cupertino in California, 
>> headquarters of Apple.  If you want to delete any of the existing entries, 
>> just double tap the button to the left of the listed city you want to 
>> remove. For example, VoiceOver will say "Delete Cupertino, switch button 
>> off, double tap to toggle setting" before the listing for the first item, 
>> Cupertino.  If you double tap the switch button, a "Delete" button will 
>> appear to the right of the entry and receive focus, and VoiceOver will say, 
>> "Confirm deletion for Cupertino". If you double tap that button (or anywhere 
>> on the screen, since that button has focus), the entry for Cupertino will be 
>> deleted.
>> 3. To add your city, you want to double tap the "Add" button in the top left 
>> corner.  When you do, you'll be in a text box, and be prompted to "Type a 
>> city, state, or zip code".
>> 4. Type in a zip code.  If you move your finger down from the search box, 
>> you'll find a suggested city match. Double tap it and that city will be 
>> added to the end of the list of cities when you are returned to the 
>> "Weather" screen. If you want to rearrange the order in which cities are 
>> displayed, touch or flick right to the right side of the screen beside a 
>> city entry.  You'll hear VoiceOver say "Reorder  button, 
>> draggable, double tap and hold, wait for the sound, then drag to rearrange."
>> 5. If you want to move your city to the top of the list, use the double tap 
>> and hold pass through gesture on the  reordering button. (Again, you can 
>> execute the pass through gesture anywhere on the screen, if you first 
>> touched or flicked to that button so that it has focus.)  Keep your finger 
>> against the screen until you hear the burbling sound of the pass through 
>> gesture, then move your finger up to place the city in the position you want 
>> before lifting your finger from the screen.  You'll hear VoiceOver update 
>> the position as you shift your finger position (e.g. "moved above 
>> Cupertino").  You can keep shifting cities until you get them ordered as you 
>> like.
>> 6. You can also change your selection to report in either degrees Fahrenheit 
>> or degrees Celsius by double tapping one of the two buttons at the bottom of 
>> the Weather screen.
>> 7.  When you've finished selecting and ordering the cities for which you 
>> want weather reports, double tap the "Done" button in the top right corner 
>> of the screen.  You'll be taken back to the weather page for your cities.
>> 8. If you have more than one city selected for weather reports, use a three 
>> finger flick right or left to scroll between the entries.  VoiceOver will 
>> say, "Showing city 1 of 3", "Showing city 2 of 3", etc. or however many 
>> cities you have configured.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Bryan and all,
 
 I have Karen on now and the weather app t

Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
In system preferences, there's an option to share the DVD drive, I think once 
that's done, you can access it like any other network drive, I've never tested 
this though.
On Nov 8, 2010, at 3:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
> macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
> 
> 
> You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use 
> the shared drive.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb 
>> memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you 
>> get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I 
>> can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough.  
>> Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, 
>> do you think I am tired from travel?
>> 
>> I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows world a 
>> netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it surely is for me.
>> 
>> I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
>> concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, 
>> but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks 
>> know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> Marlaina,
>> Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the 
>> possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for 
>> both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd 
>> be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad 
>> mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air 
>> with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast 
>> when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.
>> 
>> mary
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hmm. I'l have to play with that if the time ever comes. lol!

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> In system preferences, there's an option to share the DVD drive, I think once 
> that's done, you can access it like any other network drive, I've never 
> tested this though.
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 3:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
>> macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
>> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
>> 
>> 
>> You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use 
>> the shared drive.
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb 
>>> memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, 
>>> you get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it 
>>> if I can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is hardly 
>>> enough.  Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of 
>>> GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel?
>>> 
>>> I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows world 
>>> a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it surely is for 
>>> me.
>>> 
>>> I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
>>> concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, 
>>> but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks 
>>> know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marlaina,
>>> Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the 
>>> possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for 
>>> both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd 
>>> be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad 
>>> mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air 
>>> with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty 
>>> fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.
>>> 
>>> mary
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
I am definitely still having problems; I do not have skype on my Air, but I can 
do it on my windows machine and have my air right with me.  

Marlaina
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

If you're still having problems, perhaps we can hop on skype, and I'll see what 
I can do to help you.
On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok, that works but once I hear it say to macvisionar...@gmail.com, I can't vo 
> space because it just beeps; if I add the shift, as I've said, I get message 
> properties.  I thank all of you for trying to help me get this figured out.  
> I have so many apple mail questions, I'm sorry to be taking up so much list 
> time stuck on this one!
> 
> Marlaina
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> Marlaina, when you hear it say tab, don't vo right. Vo down. You will get to 
> the other fields that way.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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RE: iPhone translation apps [was Re: English-Spanish translation redux]

2010-11-08 Thread Brian Miller
Hi Ester,

Thank you so much for this side-by-side-by-side  review of the three apps.
I really appreciate the effort you put into this.  

I think you are right that I translate and I speak will likely suit my needs
well.  I am actually a fluent Spanish speaker, but sometimes there are words
that elude me and it would be great to be able to fill in some gaps as
needed.  I'm traveling to Bolivia this weekend, and was looking for
something that would do this.  The only problem is that these require an
internet connection, and I haven't decided if I want to try an international
plan with AT&T right now, since they messed it up last time I tried when I
was in Ecuador last month.  

Thanks again,

Brian M




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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:29 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone translation apps [was Re: English-Spanish translation redux]

Hi Dean and Brian,

I haven't wanted to weigh in with a suggestion for a Spanish translation
app, since I have only rudimentary knowledge of Spanish, but if you're
looking for a translation app that runs through Google Translate (with all
the usual limitations and caveats about machine translation and the need to
use this through an internet connection), I can certainly recommend a more
accessible alternative, with more features, at least based on my reading of
the description of iTranslate - Spanish from Bizmosis, Inc.  I'll describe
three apps:  
iTranslate -- the universal translator (free, but $1.99 to buy a voice
through in-app purchase to have translations read out with text to
speech) by Sonico GmbH, iSpeak Spanish ($1.99) by FutureApps, and Trippo
Voice Translator Plus (free for text-to-text translations, free trial
text-to-speech use for 14 days, extendable by in-app purchase;
$4.99 for permanent license) by Cellictica.  All three are available
internationally, and probably one the first two would be best suited for
Brian's translation needs. I'm going to cc this to the Macvisionaries list,
since it may be of wider interest, even though this answer is specific to
the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad.

. iTranslate -- the universal translator by Sonico GmbH For a general
purpose app based on Google Translate, I'd recommend iTranslate -- the
universal translator by Sonico GmbH.  It does require an internet connection
to use, and it's for text based input and translated output, however you can
purchase a Loquendo voice for text to speech for $1.99 to read out your
translated text. These voices are very good quality. The iTranslate app
itself is free, and it can handle translations in 52 languages with voice
options to support text to speech in 17 languages.  There are 3 Castilian
Spanish voices (1 male, 2 female) and 2 American Spanish voices (1 male, 1
female) to choose from.  You don't have to turn VoiceOver off at any point
to access the text boxes. If you want to listen to the text to speech
version and you have purchased a voice, you just flick right to the "IMG
speaker touch" button that follows the text box for the translated field.
(I usually mute VoiceOver with a three finger double tap after I've flicked
to the button, and just before I double tap that button so that it's
announcement doesn't obscure the beginning of the translated speech, then I
unmute with another three finger double tap).  If you want to mail, text
message, or tweet the translated text, or to save it to history (if you
purchased the "plus"  
version upgrade for $0.99 that allows you save a history of your translation
inputs and outputs), you just flick right again to the "IMG action touch"
button and double tap. A menu comes up with options for Save (with the plus
version of the app), Email, SMS, Twitter, and Copy. If you double tap
"Email", for example, the translated text is included in the body of an
Email message.  I would recommend that you get iTranslate Plus version of
the app for $0.99, which will keep a history of your recent translations and
also allow you save and organize your translations into favorites lists by
categories that you can customize.  If you want to start by getting the free
version of the app, you can upgrade to the iTranslate Plus version by in-app
purchase.  However, if you ever need to restore the app on your device,
you're going to have to remember to get the free app and update it by in-app
purchase.  If it were me, I would simply buy the iTranslate Plus version
(for $0.99) directly -- even if I first tried out the free version of the
app, so as not to get charged again if you end up trying to restore the paid
version. If you have the "plus"  
option, if you flick right past the "IMG action touch" button you'll reach
the "Favorites" button in the bottom left corner. This allows you to access
your history and the favorites you saved.  Finally, there is an "Info"
button in the bottom right corne

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Kerie Doyle
On 11/8/10, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> I'm putting your reply below your question.:
>
>>> Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where
>>> by I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate
>>> places for messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I
>>> want to have is something where there is a separate mailbox where for
>>> example only mail from a certain email address goes, and I can choose to
>>> read emails or not, I want this mail only to go to only the mailbox that
>>> was created for it, so when I open mail I don't have to wade through a
>>> load of mailing list to find a mail from a friend who's writing to say
>>> hi. Is it possible to do all this using voice over?
>>
>> Would really love to get this set up so any help greatly appreciated
>> and thanks.
>>
>> Kerie
>>
>> --
> Hello. go to prefs when a  message is open and go to rules and then go to
> add. The reason I suggest that is some of the info is already filled in such
> as the too and other fields you might want. Follow the prompts. what I
> usually do is this.
>
> name of rule: what ever you want.
>
> contains
>
> subject, or for this list to which is already filled.
>
> move to what ever folder you want. create the folder before you create the
> rule though.
>
> hit ok and if asked apply the rule.
>
> Hope this helps.
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it certainly does, thank you so much.
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Kerie Doyle
sorry sarah,
just one thing i forgot to ask, would i just create a normal mailbox
for the rule or would it have to be a smart mailbox?
sorry again and thanks
Kerie
On 11/8/10, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> I'm putting your reply below your question.:
>
>>> Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where
>>> by I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate
>>> places for messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I
>>> want to have is something where there is a separate mailbox where for
>>> example only mail from a certain email address goes, and I can choose to
>>> read emails or not, I want this mail only to go to only the mailbox that
>>> was created for it, so when I open mail I don't have to wade through a
>>> load of mailing list to find a mail from a friend who's writing to say
>>> hi. Is it possible to do all this using voice over?
>>
>> Would really love to get this set up so any help greatly appreciated
>> and thanks.
>>
>> Kerie
>>
>> --
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> add. The reason I suggest that is some of the info is already filled in such
> as the too and other fields you might want. Follow the prompts. what I
> usually do is this.
>
> name of rule: what ever you want.
>
> contains
>
> subject, or for this list to which is already filled.
>
> move to what ever folder you want. create the folder before you create the
> rule though.
>
> hit ok and if asked apply the rule.
>
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Kerie Doyle
hey all,
how do you boot from the memory stick with the OS on if you need to
reinstall? and is this as was the case with the disk accessible using
voice over? does the memory stick have the capability to provide that
spoken feedback during instalation?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but figure i'm better asking you
guys as apple care don't ever seem to know much about VO
Kerie

On 11/8/10, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is a USB stick, yes.
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:09 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote:
>
> Neill,
> You mean a usb memory stick? I saw the Macbook Air and I saw no place for a
> card. I only saw two usb ports, one on each side.
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
>
>
>> hello,
>>
>> in case its not been mentioned, the new Air comes with a USB memory card
>> 8Gb which has the OS on it for reinstall purposes.
>> On 8 Nov 2010, at 09:12, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my
>> macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
>> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
>>
>>
>> You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can
>> use the shared drive.
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>
>>> Mary,
>>>
>>> I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb
>>> memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again,
>>> you get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do
>>> it if I can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is
>>> hardly enough.  Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K
>>> instead of GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel?
>>>
>>> I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows
>>> world a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it
>>> surely is for me.
>>>
>>> I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not
>>> concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the
>>> Air, but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and
>>> let folks know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do
>>> it for sure.
>>>
>>> Marlaina
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>
>>> Marlaina,
>>> Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the
>>> possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for
>>> both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking?
>>> I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the
>>> IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got
>>> the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up
>>> mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.
>>>
>>> mary
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>
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Re: Setting up the weather app [was Re: iphone 4g and 3gs]

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Marlaina and all,

I have successfully set up the weather app. I don't know if you are the 
Marlaina I'm thinking of but there was a woman on ACB Radio I believe a long 
time ago that spelled it the same way you do. I'm not sure if you are the same 
person, so if i have gotten you confused, I apologize. I have saved Ester's and 
other posters messages in a folder called Apple. I hope you enjoy using your 
Mac. have a great day.

Musically,
Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Here's another clue that might help you go through email faster, perhaps ou 
> already do this, but, in the inbox, interact with the messages table, and 
> place the voice over cursor on the subject column. Now you can just arrow up 
> and down and hear the subject of each message without all the extra 
> information, unless of course, you like to hear everything.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Allison,
>> 
>> I have learned so much from this list in just a few short days.  I, too save 
>> their messages because they are gems.
>> 
>> You will love the weather app.  I surely do.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ester,
>> 
>> Thank you so much, I was able to configure the weather app with multiple 
>> cities as per your instructions. I'm going to save this message in my Apple 
>> folder. I have a lot of them saved, so I don't keep asking the same 
>> questions that might have been previously asked on this list. Thank you 
>> again. I hope you are having a wonderful weekend.
>> 
>> Musically,
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Allison and Others,
>>> 
>>> I also use the Australian voice (Karen) on my iPhone, although I'm in the 
>>> U.S. The weather app reports for whatever location you set, regardless of 
>>> the voice you use or the region format that you chose in Settings > General 
>>> > International > Region Format.  You'll have to add your city (and 
>>> optionally delete the ones that are in the app, if you don't want to hear 
>>> those weather reports).
>>> 
>>> To add the city or cities of your choice for weather reporting:
>>> 1. Double tap the "Edit Cities" button in the bottom right corner of your 
>>> screen.
>>> 2. You'll be on a screen called "Weather" with focus on the "Add" button in 
>>> the top left corner.  If you flick right or do a two finger flick down 
>>> "Read All" gesture you'll hear a list of city locations currently selected 
>>> for your weather app.  One of these will be Cupertino in California, 
>>> headquarters of Apple.  If you want to delete any of the existing entries, 
>>> just double tap the button to the left of the listed city you want to 
>>> remove. For example, VoiceOver will say "Delete Cupertino, switch button 
>>> off, double tap to toggle setting" before the listing for the first item, 
>>> Cupertino.  If you double tap the switch button, a "Delete" button will 
>>> appear to the right of the entry and receive focus, and VoiceOver will say, 
>>> "Confirm deletion for Cupertino". If you double tap that button (or 
>>> anywhere on the screen, since that button has focus), the entry for 
>>> Cupertino will be deleted.
>>> 3. To add your city, you want to double tap the "Add" button in the top 
>>> left corner.  When you do, you'll be in a text box, and be prompted to 
>>> "Type a city, state, or zip code".
>>> 4. Type in a zip code.  If you move your finger down from the search box, 
>>> you'll find a suggested city match. Double tap it and that city will be 
>>> added to the end of the list of cities when you are returned to the 
>>> "Weather" screen. If you want to rearrange the order in which cities are 
>>> displayed, touch or flick right to the right side of the screen beside a 
>>> city entry.  You'll hear VoiceOver say "Reorder  button, 
>>> draggable, double tap and hold, wait for the sound, then drag to rearrange."
>>> 5. If you want to move your city to the top of the list, use the double tap 
>>> and hold pass through gesture on the  reordering button. (Again, you can 
>>> execute the pass through gesture anywhere on the screen, if you first 
>>> touched or flicked to that button so that it has focus.)  Keep your finger 
>>> against the screen until you hear the burbling sound of the pass through 
>>> gesture, then move your finger up to place the city in the position you 
>>> want before lifting your finger from the screen.  You'll hear VoiceOver 
>>> update the position as you shift your finger position (e.g. "moved above 
>>> Cupertino").  You can keep shifting cities until you get them ordered as 
>>> you like.
>>> 6. You can also change your selection to report in either degrees 
>>> Fahrenheit or degrees Celsius by double tapping one of the two buttons at 
>>> the bottom of the Weather screen.
>>> 7.  When you've finished selectin

Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Marlaina,

I have enjoyed reading your views. I am in your camp I believe as I still use 
the Braillino's note taking capability at work just because if I need to take 
down dictation fast, I'm much quicker typing in Braille than I am at the 
computer keyboard. I can type pretty quickly on the keyboard, but just not fast 
enough sometimes. I think they both have a place. i don't think I'll ever be 
without a Braille display probably a note taking device since I never know what 
job requirements or future jobs might be available where I may need to use such 
devices. I am however not a fan of the huge price literally we pay for access 
technology. My hats off to Apple for the Mac and out of the box accessibility. 
It was very emotional for me to have my Mac. I never in my lifetime thought I'd 
see mainstream accessibility in a computer with a built-in screen reading 
solution. I never thought I'd see a blind person being able to use a touch 
screen cell phone either. The love of my life is sighted and he says I use the 
Mac and Iphone faster than he does. Well, have a wonderful evening. I'm really 
enjoying reading everyone's views on this topic. wish the Macbooks and Iphones 
were around when I was in college :). 


Musically,
Allison
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On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Well, if I hooked up my apex to the Air, I'd be dealing with 2 separate 
> devices.  And when I am quickly needing to find an item in a list of 80 items 
> so I can edit it on the fly during a live event like our convention, I need 
> speed and absolute accuracy.  With the apex, my fingers are all on one unit, 
> jumping quickly from keyboard entry to braille display within a second or 
> less.  I take your point about connecting the apex to the air to use it as a 
> braille display and may find that somewhat useful in editing when I have the 
> luxury of time.  And, can't say I blame you for not using your PackMate, 
> smile!
> 
> My point is that if one can possibly find a way to have both, a good reliable 
> notetaker such as BrailleNote Apex or BrailleSense and a wonderful small 
> computer like the Air and the MacBook Pro both have their very separate and 
> valuable place in competing and participating effectively in today's business 
> environs.
> 
> Marlaina
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> 
> I have to say having used both blind note takers and the mb pro/ the i-phone 
> 3gs. I have found the  mb family of products to be much more accessible  to 
> me as a vi person then the blind note takers. I still also have  my original 
> qx 400 pac mate and let me tell you!. I cannot stand that damn note taker. So 
> I mostly stopped using it and just used my windows base computer to read book 
> share book or my victor reader stream or its sister companion  the victor 
> reader vibe to read rfbd books.  I also own an romeo embosser so if I wanted 
> something in a hard copy all I would have to do is to  emboss it and it is at 
> my finger tips etc... 
> However, I can understand how a blind note taker such as the braille note, 
> braille sense or the a pax note taker from human ware would be just right for 
> either one of you during such occasions  when it would be most needed.  but 
> why don't you try hooking it up to your mack book air to see if it would be 
> much more easier to operate  at different functions that you might have to 
> attend.  i hope this  helps.
> sincerely, chenelle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread heather kd5cbl
I also have a braillenote and I like my mac as well.  I was so happy when I 
got it, I was speechless after I set it up with no sighted assistance.  I 
have not obtained my I phone as sprint is taking it's sweet time of getting 
I phones.  I cant wait to get rid of my q9c.  My plan is up in dec so maybe 
I will be switching to a carrier with an i phone.  Heather 


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Re: Getting rid of DropBox

2010-11-08 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, the thing of it is this.  You need to get to the Drop Box preferences.  
To do this, you'll need to go in to your status menu, and then, use 
VO+simicolon, lock your Voice Over keys.  Now, move your mouse in a straight 
line to the left while using F5 to tell you where your mouse is.  When you 
hear, "Drop Box", You need to press VO+shift+space to click the mouse.  Now, 
you'll be pulled in to the menu from which you can select the preferences.  
When you get to it, you need to press the return key until you hear "select 
preferences".  Now, use the window chooser menu to get at the actual 
preferences.  Now that you're here, you can choose whether or not to have Drop 
Box start up at the system start or even shut it down now.  ONce shut down, you 
should be able to remove it.


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
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On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anybody tried deleting the DropBox application from the MAC yet?
> 
> When I go to the application in the applications folder and choose the "move 
> to trash" option, I get the message that the program is open so it can't be 
> trashed.
> 
> Now, when I go ahead and do a cmd+o to open it, I get the message saying that 
> "DropBox has no windows" and I can't do anything to close the program.
> 
> I think that some info is escaping VO, so therefore this question here on 
> this list.
> 
> Could be a general procedure that I am doing wrong here.
> 
> Hope to hear from someone who managed to delete the application.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Daniel
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iTUnes?

2010-11-08 Thread Jason SW

Hello all,

I'm pretty new to this list, but not new to owning a Mac. I bought my 
iMac in May, and since then I have also bought an iPod Touch 4G. 
However, I haven't been able to totally switch over to Mac. One of the 
very few reasons I haven't been able to stop using a Windows 7 VM 
constantly is iTunes. Compared to Winamp, iTunes just seems horribly 
bloated and complicated. For example, if I want to create a temporary 
playlist of only a certain subset of my music, movies or TV shows, I 
have to create a new playlist and add all of the files I want, whereas 
in Winamp, all I have to do is brows to the folder I want to listen to, 
turn shuffle play on if I want to, and play it.
The other thing is terminal applications. Especially when a lot of text 
comes through, for example if I'm trying to use TinTin++, whenever new 
text comes in, if Voiceover is already speaking, the speech is 
interrupted and the new text is spoken.
I'm just trying to figure out how to make this work, so any help anyone 
can give me is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Jason.



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any way to send .brf files to my juliette?

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi all.

I was really disappointed to learn that Duxbury does not make a version for 
Mac.  Is there a way to send files to my Juliette?  I suppose drivers are 
required and of course I don't have them since they are contained within 
Duxbury for Windows.

Thanks folks.

Marlaina

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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Carrie, I CREATED a normal mailbox, since I do not know what the heck a smart 
mailbox does or when I want it.

Marlaina
On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Kerie Doyle wrote:

sorry sarah,
just one thing i forgot to ask, would i just create a normal mailbox
for the rule or would it have to be a smart mailbox?
sorry again and thanks
Kerie
On 11/8/10, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> I'm putting your reply below your question.:
> 
>>> Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where
>>> by I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate
>>> places for messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I
>>> want to have is something where there is a separate mailbox where for
>>> example only mail from a certain email address goes, and I can choose to
>>> read emails or not, I want this mail only to go to only the mailbox that
>>> was created for it, so when I open mail I don't have to wade through a
>>> load of mailing list to find a mail from a friend who's writing to say
>>> hi. Is it possible to do all this using voice over?
>> 
>> Would really love to get this set up so any help greatly appreciated
>> and thanks.
>> 
>> Kerie
>> 
>> --
> Hello. go to prefs when a  message is open and go to rules and then go to
> add. The reason I suggest that is some of the info is already filled in such
> as the too and other fields you might want. Follow the prompts. what I
> usually do is this.
> 
> name of rule: what ever you want.
> 
> contains
> 
> subject, or for this list to which is already filled.
> 
> move to what ever folder you want. create the folder before you create the
> rule though.
> 
> hit ok and if asked apply the rule.
> 
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Re: any way to send .brf files to my juliette?

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Marlaina,

I think I remember asking this a while back on this list. Hmm, now that I think 
of it a while was only like a week ago. There is a gentleman named Erik and he 
told me of a free Braille translation program for the Mac called Louis I think 
it is. I haven't googled it, but I think Erik said it allows you to create BrF 
files. I don't know if it will let you send them to the Juliet. I have a Juliet 
as well. It's old as the hills, but I use it very infrequently, it's not worth 
asking for a new one. Not that I would get it anyway :). I don't know if I've 
helped but  I hope so. I hope you are having a wodnerful evening.

Musically,
Allison

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> Hi all.
> 
> I was really disappointed to learn that Duxbury does not make a version for 
> Mac.  Is there a way to send files to my Juliette?  I suppose drivers are 
> required and of course I don't have them since they are contained within 
> Duxbury for Windows.
> 
> Thanks folks.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: iTUnes?

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi Jason,
I can at least give you an answer for your first question. I use VLC media 
player. It can handle winamp playlists, and it can also be set as your default 
media application. It works very well, and is quite accessible.
There are a few check boxes that aren't labeled, but one's an EQ, one puts it 
in full screen mode in case you're watching a movie with it.
I hope that helps.

Friendly,
Chris

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> Hello all,
> 
> I'm pretty new to this list, but not new to owning a Mac. I bought my iMac in 
> May, and since then I have also bought an iPod Touch 4G. However, I haven't 
> been able to totally switch over to Mac. One of the very few reasons I 
> haven't been able to stop using a Windows 7 VM constantly is iTunes. Compared 
> to Winamp, iTunes just seems horribly bloated and complicated. For example, 
> if I want to create a temporary playlist of only a certain subset of my 
> music, movies or TV shows, I have to create a new playlist and add all of the 
> files I want, whereas in Winamp, all I have to do is brows to the folder I 
> want to listen to, turn shuffle play on if I want to, and play it.
> The other thing is terminal applications. Especially when a lot of text comes 
> through, for example if I'm trying to use TinTin++, whenever new text comes 
> in, if Voiceover is already speaking, the speech is interrupted and the new 
> text is spoken.
> I'm just trying to figure out how to make this work, so any help anyone can 
> give me is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason.
> 

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switching from 64 to 32 bit version of OS

2010-11-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello all,

About a month ago someone wrote how to switch from 64 to 32 bit mode on a 
macbook pro.  Can someone please re post these instructions?

TIA

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Problem with voiceover and google?

2010-11-08 Thread Blake Hardin
Ok guys, problem here and its never happened. So i was using safari
and going to google and every time i typed in something for search, it
wuld freeze then a few seconds later voiceover would say "welcom to
mac OS 10" And then i will have t shut down safari. It only does this
with google. Anyone ave any ideas? I cleared the cash and cookies and
reset safari but nothing has helped. Help?

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Re: Problem with voiceover and google?

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
This 9s a well known problem.

Simply download webkit from webkit.org and use that to browse instead.  It's 
more recent updates to safari and wha safari is pulled from during the dev 
cycle.  Many of the voice over bugs are fixed and you don't lose any 
functionality.

Enjoy!

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> Ok guys, problem here and its never happened. So i was using safari
> and going to google and every time i typed in something for search, it
> wuld freeze then a few seconds later voiceover would say "welcom to
> mac OS 10" And then i will have t shut down safari. It only does this
> with google. Anyone ave any ideas? I cleared the cash and cookies and
> reset safari but nothing has helped. Help?
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Re: switching from 64 to 32 bit version of OS

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
Boot holding down the 3 and 2 keys simultaniously while booting.


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> Hello all,
> 
> About a month ago someone wrote how to switch from 64 to 32 bit mode on a 
> macbook pro.  Can someone please re post these instructions?
> 
> TIA
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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
Honestly, thisis my own personal take and I hope I don't offend anyne but I 
don't like a lot of things about blind notakers so I tend towards the off the 
shelf.  
Being so grossly over charged for a device which is basically a mid 
1990S pocket PC or at best a dead windows mobile platform.  The interfaces are 
years  out of date, and interoperability is tricky.  

I will admit, a device like the braille note really sounds attractive to me and 
would make a lot of things at work a lot easier.  The price seems steep though.



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> I also have a braillenote and I like my mac as well.  I was so happy when I 
> got it, I was speechless after I set it up with no sighted assistance.  I 
> have not obtained my I phone as sprint is taking it's sweet time of getting I 
> phones.  I cant wait to get rid of my q9c.  My plan is up in dec so maybe I 
> will be switching to a carrier with an i phone.  Heather 
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anyone else notice the major shift in computing?Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
This whole solid state storage thing amazes me!

I've heard that some systems are the same speed as regular disks and others are 
vastly faster.  Mine honestly feels damn speedy!  What happened?  Does anyone 
else remember digital electronics class or was that sort of storage not 
supposed to be possible because of heat and noise concerns.;)  Funny how that 
never worked out and doesn't look like it will either anytime soon.

These are my two buzz phrases so far for 2010, (Radio is dead, and mechanical 
storage is dead. heh



On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> hello,
> 
> in case its not been mentioned, the new Air comes with a USB memory card 8Gb 
> which has the OS on it for reinstall purposes.
> On 8 Nov 2010, at 09:12, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my 
> macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS?
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
> 
> 
> You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use 
> the shared drive.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb 
>> memory.  Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you 
>> get what you pay for.  So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I 
>> can get the most I can for what I want.  I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough.  
>> Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, 
>> do you think I am tired from travel?
>> 
>> I just cannot say enough about this Air!  but just as in the windows world a 
>> netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone.  However, it surely is for me.
>> 
>> I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not 
>> concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, 
>> but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks 
>> know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> Marlaina,
>> Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the 
>> possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for 
>> both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd 
>> be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad 
>> mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air 
>> with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast 
>> when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient.
>> 
>> mary
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: Problem with voiceover and google?

2010-11-08 Thread annelie robledo
I had to find the google page that is accessible. So it would not do what you 
are saying.

Here is the link.

http://labs.google.com/accessible/
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> Ok guys, problem here and its never happened. So i was using safari
> and going to google and every time i typed in something for search, it
> wuld freeze then a few seconds later voiceover would say "welcom to
> mac OS 10" And then i will have t shut down safari. It only does this
> with google. Anyone ave any ideas? I cleared the cash and cookies and
> reset safari but nothing has helped. Help?
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Re: blind note takers vs the mack book family products:Hi mary and marlana,

2010-11-08 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Scott and all,

I agree with you to some extent. I know what you mean but I can't be without my 
Braille display. I know what you mean about the price of access technology. BUt 
I just love my Braillino so much but more for it's display and ease of use of 
notes on the fly. But this can also be accomplished with the Iphone. I pasted 
an  experimental note in to an E-mail. I hope you are  having a wonderful day!

Musically,
Allison

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On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Honestly, thisis my own personal take and I hope I don't offend anyne but I 
> don't like a lot of things about blind notakers so I tend towards the off the 
> shelf.  
>   Being so grossly over charged for a device which is basically a mid 
> 1990S pocket PC or at best a dead windows mobile platform.  The interfaces 
> are years  out of date, and interoperability is tricky.  
> 
> I will admit, a device like the braille note really sounds attractive to me 
> and would make a lot of things at work a lot easier.  The price seems steep 
> though.
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:38 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
> 
>> I also have a braillenote and I like my mac as well.  I was so happy when I 
>> got it, I was speechless after I set it up with no sighted assistance.  I 
>> have not obtained my I phone as sprint is taking it's sweet time of getting 
>> I phones.  I cant wait to get rid of my q9c.  My plan is up in dec so maybe 
>> I will be switching to a carrier with an i phone.  Heather 
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Re: switching from 64 to 32 bit version of OS

2010-11-08 Thread M. Taylor
Why would one wish to boot into 32-bit mode instead of 64-bit mode?

Mark
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> Hello all,
> 
> About a month ago someone wrote how to switch from 64 to 32 bit mode on a 
> macbook pro.  Can someone please re post these instructions?
> 
> TIA
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Re: iTunes?

2010-11-08 Thread Jason SW

Hi Chris,

Thanks a lot... I'll definitely take a look at that.

Jason.


On 11/8/2010 10:17 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

Hi Jason,
I can at least give you an answer for your first question. I use VLC media 
player. It can handle winamp playlists, and it can also be set as your default 
media application. It works very well, and is quite accessible.
There are a few check boxes that aren't labeled, but one's an EQ, one puts it 
in full screen mode in case you're watching a movie with it.
I hope that helps.

Friendly,
Chris

On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Jason SW wrote:


Hello all,

I'm pretty new to this list, but not new to owning a Mac. I bought my iMac in 
May, and since then I have also bought an iPod Touch 4G. However, I haven't 
been able to totally switch over to Mac. One of the very few reasons I haven't 
been able to stop using a Windows 7 VM constantly is iTunes. Compared to 
Winamp, iTunes just seems horribly bloated and complicated. For example, if I 
want to create a temporary playlist of only a certain subset of my music, 
movies or TV shows, I have to create a new playlist and add all of the files I 
want, whereas in Winamp, all I have to do is brows to the folder I want to 
listen to, turn shuffle play on if I want to, and play it.
The other thing is terminal applications. Especially when a lot of text comes 
through, for example if I'm trying to use TinTin++, whenever new text comes in, 
if Voiceover is already speaking, the speech is interrupted and the new text is 
spoken.
I'm just trying to figure out how to make this work, so any help anyone can 
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Thanks,
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Re: switching from 64 to 32 bit version of OS

2010-11-08 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi!

Now that we are talking about 32-bit and 64-bit, I know that regular Macbooks 
cannot boot into 64-bit mode. It also sounds like there is some confusion.

No Mac, Pro or otherwise, boots into 64-bit by default. You either have to set 
it, or hold down 6 and 4 during startup. This is the kernel. Snow Leopard is 
64-bit, but that only means it runs 64-bit applications. It does not use the 
64-bit extentions, which is the kernel booting as 64-bit.

If anyone tries this, I'd like to know about their compatibility issues, speed, 
etc.

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On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:59 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Why would one wish to boot into 32-bit mode instead of 64-bit mode?
> 
> Mark
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> About a month ago someone wrote how to switch from 64 to 32 bit mode on a 
>> macbook pro.  Can someone please re post these instructions?
>> 
>> TIA
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Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
I do the normal mail boxes on the imap server but you can create them on your 
mac as well.

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Kerie Doyle wrote:

> sorry sarah,
> just one thing i forgot to ask, would i just create a normal mailbox
> for the rule or would it have to be a smart mailbox?
> sorry again and thanks
> Kerie
> On 11/8/10, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> I'm putting your reply below your question.:
>> 
 Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where
 by I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate
 places for messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I
 want to have is something where there is a separate mailbox where for
 example only mail from a certain email address goes, and I can choose to
 read emails or not, I want this mail only to go to only the mailbox that
 was created for it, so when I open mail I don't have to wade through a
 load of mailing list to find a mail from a friend who's writing to say
 hi. Is it possible to do all this using voice over?
>>> 
>>> Would really love to get this set up so any help greatly appreciated
>>> and thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kerie
>>> 
>>> --
>> Hello. go to prefs when a  message is open and go to rules and then go to
>> add. The reason I suggest that is some of the info is already filled in such
>> as the too and other fields you might want. Follow the prompts. what I
>> usually do is this.
>> 
>> name of rule: what ever you want.
>> 
>> contains
>> 
>> subject, or for this list to which is already filled.
>> 
>> move to what ever folder you want. create the folder before you create the
>> rule though.
>> 
>> hit ok and if asked apply the rule.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
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Re: switching from 64 to 32 bit version of OS

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Granados
I boot holding down the 6 and 4 and find I get a very slight boost if any.  I 
understand it's between 3 and 10% but anything I think I feel I honestly 
believe is the placibo effect.


My VM seems a little snapper as well but again that could be my experience 
playing tricks on me.


On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Now that we are talking about 32-bit and 64-bit, I know that regular Macbooks 
> cannot boot into 64-bit mode. It also sounds like there is some confusion.
> 
> No Mac, Pro or otherwise, boots into 64-bit by default. You either have to 
> set it, or hold down 6 and 4 during startup. This is the kernel. Snow Leopard 
> is 64-bit, but that only means it runs 64-bit applications. It does not use 
> the 64-bit extentions, which is the kernel booting as 64-bit.
> 
> If anyone tries this, I'd like to know about their compatibility issues, 
> speed, etc.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:59 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Why would one wish to boot into 32-bit mode instead of 64-bit mode?
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> About a month ago someone wrote how to switch from 64 to 32 bit mode on a 
>>> macbook pro.  Can someone please re post these instructions?
>>> 
>>> TIA
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Re: Getting rid of DropBox

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
Oh really? I'll have to try that as when I hit return I hear system ui server 
has no windows. I'll have to try this.

upon doing this there is no prefs window to speak of in the window chooser or 
in th eapplication chooser. it's as if the application disappears.

S
On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Well, the thing of it is this.  You need to get to the Drop Box preferences.  
> To do this, you'll need to go in to your status menu, and then, use 
> VO+simicolon, lock your Voice Over keys.  Now, move your mouse in a straight 
> line to the left while using F5 to tell you where your mouse is.  When you 
> hear, "Drop Box", You need to press VO+shift+space to click the mouse.  Now, 
> you'll be pulled in to the menu from which you can select the preferences.  
> When you get to it, you need to press the return key until you hear "select 
> preferences".  Now, use the window chooser menu to get at the actual 
> preferences.  Now that you're here, you can choose whether or not to have 
> Drop Box start up at the system start or even shut it down now.  ONce shut 
> down, you should be able to remove it.
> 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anybody tried deleting the DropBox application from the MAC yet?
>> 
>> When I go to the application in the applications folder and choose the "move 
>> to trash" option, I get the message that the program is open so it can't be 
>> trashed.
>> 
>> Now, when I go ahead and do a cmd+o to open it, I get the message saying 
>> that "DropBox has no windows" and I can't do anything to close the program.
>> 
>> I think that some info is escaping VO, so therefore this question here on 
>> this list.
>> 
>> Could be a general procedure that I am doing wrong here.
>> 
>> Hope to hear from someone who managed to delete the application.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Daniel
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Re: anyone else notice the major shift in computing?Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-08 Thread Yuma Decaux
I'm like flying straight through buttery network bliss here with my new macbook 
air. And when i check my mac mini's twin mechanical heap of heat, it makes me 
wince. Wish ssd's would dramatically drop in prices so i can RAID 1 those bad 
boys into new read and write performance Peaks. Until light peak takes over 
that is :)


peas.

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Re: switching from 64 to 32 bit version of OS

2010-11-08 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi Scott

Thanks a lot for that. I didn't think it'd be such a terrible boost, either, 
but I was very curious to know. What about incompatibility?

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On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I boot holding down the 6 and 4 and find I get a very slight boost if any.  I 
> understand it's between 3 and 10% but anything I think I feel I honestly 
> believe is the placibo effect.
> 
> 
> My VM seems a little snapper as well but again that could be my experience 
> playing tricks on me.
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Now that we are talking about 32-bit and 64-bit, I know that regular 
>> Macbooks cannot boot into 64-bit mode. It also sounds like there is some 
>> confusion.
>> 
>> No Mac, Pro or otherwise, boots into 64-bit by default. You either have to 
>> set it, or hold down 6 and 4 during startup. This is the kernel. Snow 
>> Leopard is 64-bit, but that only means it runs 64-bit applications. It does 
>> not use the 64-bit extentions, which is the kernel booting as 64-bit.
>> 
>> If anyone tries this, I'd like to know about their compatibility issues, 
>> speed, etc.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:59 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Why would one wish to boot into 32-bit mode instead of 64-bit mode?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 About a month ago someone wrote how to switch from 64 to 32 bit mode on a 
 macbook pro.  Can someone please re post these instructions?
 
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