Re: Top ten things

[M. Taylor]

Hi,

You Wrote:
I am interested in knowing anyones top ten things I should know or do
before I open the boxes with the new Mac Book Pro in it and begin the
journey into changing from my PC life into a Mac style of computing.

Mark's Answer:

My answer is a simple one:
There are 2 things I strongly recommend to anyone regardless of his/her 
computer usage history:
1.  Remain open-minded about all that you encounter on the new operating system.

2.  Do not consider abandoning your previous operating system for there will be 
aspects of it that work more conveniently than on the new operating system.  

In short, there is no reason why one should be either a Mac user or a Windows 
or for that matter a Linux user.  True power comes from   diversity.

Do not limit your possibilities by switching from one to another but rather 
expand your options by adding a new tool to your proverbial toolbox.

Good Luck,

Mark









On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:57 PM, 504 area wrote:

> I am interested in knowing anyones top ten things I should know or do
> before I open the boxes with the new Mac Book Pro in it and begin the
> journey into changing from my PC life into a Mac style of computing.

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RE: iPhone signal loss

[Bryan Smart]

Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes gave 
me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't talk, 
won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and iTunes 
starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone software update 
server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the same 
computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some other people are 
having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to re-update for about 
3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any way to back out the 
update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, since I get this error 
every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone has been successfully 
bricked.

Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it appears 
that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what they'll 
have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a trick.

I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let anything 
of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting expensive 
time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.

This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple products. 
Extremely disappointed.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss

The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, but 
since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it won't be 
as noticeable.

On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
> than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
> but so has at&t in my book.
>
> Carolyn
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Chris Blouch
>   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
>   Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>
>
>   I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
> pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
>
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
> phone-4-this-friday/
>
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
> _reception_issues.html
>
>   CB
>
>   Sarah Alawami wrote:
> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
> phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
> out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
>
> S
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
>
>   Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
> be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when 
> it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
>
> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
>
> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
> idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these 
> devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic 
> feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is 
> working on this.
> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>
> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may 
> eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 
> 2010, at
>   2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
> on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used.
> Doug
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>
> Hey Doug,
>
> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
>   your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing 
> information about a specific product, you would have to get pretty 
> close. The distances you refer too is more useful for warehouses, 
> dockyards, and such. I am not sure if the ability to read is based on 
> the scanner or the RFID tag itself.
> So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, 
> other than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these 
> readers in the phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 
>

Re: iPhone signal loss

[Michael Huckabay]

Have you mabey tryed softe resetting the phone holding the sleep/wake butten 
down and the home butten at the same time?  this may help you not sure though.
On 2010-07-16, at 4:59 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

> Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes gave 
> me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't talk, 
> won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and iTunes 
> starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone software 
> update server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the 
> same computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some other 
> people are having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to 
> re-update for about 3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any 
> way to back out the update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, 
> since I get this error every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone 
> has been successfully bricked.
> 
> Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it 
> appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what 
> they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a 
> trick.
> 
> I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let 
> anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting 
> expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.
> 
> This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple 
> products. Extremely disappointed.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
> 
> The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
> People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
> they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, 
> but since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it 
> won't be as noticeable.
> 
> On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
>> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
>> than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
>> but so has at&t in my book.
>> 
>> Carolyn
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Chris Blouch
>>  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
>>  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>> 
>> 
>>  I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
>> pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
>> phone-4-this-friday/
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
>> _reception_issues.html
>> 
>>  CB
>> 
>>  Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
>> phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
>> out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
>> 
>>  Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
>> be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when 
>> it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
>> 
>> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
>> 
>> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
>> idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these 
>> devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic 
>> feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple 
>> is working on this.
>> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may 
>> eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 
>> 2010, at
>>  2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
>>on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used.
>>Doug
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>Hey Doug,
>> 
>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
>>  your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing 
>> information about a specific product, you would have to get pretty 
>> close. The distances

Re: iPhone signal loss

[Chris Moore]

H think I will wait until 4.1 
On 16 Jul 2010, at 10:59, Bryan Smart wrote:

> Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes gave 
> me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't talk, 
> won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and iTunes 
> starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone software 
> update server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the 
> same computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some other 
> people are having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to 
> re-update for about 3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any 
> way to back out the update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, 
> since I get this error every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone 
> has been successfully bricked.
> 
> Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it 
> appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what 
> they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a 
> trick.
> 
> I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let 
> anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting 
> expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.
> 
> This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple 
> products. Extremely disappointed.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
> 
> The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
> People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
> they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, 
> but since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it 
> won't be as noticeable.
> 
> On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
>> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
>> than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
>> but so has at&t in my book.
>> 
>> Carolyn
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Chris Blouch
>>  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
>>  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>> 
>> 
>>  I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
>> pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
>> phone-4-this-friday/
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
>> _reception_issues.html
>> 
>>  CB
>> 
>>  Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
>> phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
>> out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
>> 
>>  Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
>> be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when 
>> it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
>> 
>> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
>> 
>> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
>> idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these 
>> devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic 
>> feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple 
>> is working on this.
>> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may 
>> eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 
>> 2010, at
>>  2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
>>on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used.
>>Doug
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>Hey Doug,
>> 
>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
>>  your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing 
>> information about a specific product, you would have to get pretty 
>> close. The distances you refer too is more useful for warehouses, 
>> dockyards, and such. I am not sure if the ability to read is based on 
>>

Re: list question

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Sarai,

THe only way I know how to do it is to interact with the message headers field 
and hit command A and then command C. Then I add the person to my addressbook 
and delete the text I don't need like their name before the E-mail address. I 
hope that helps.

Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Hi all:
> How can I contact a member off list. For example, I saw a message from Sara, 
> and if I wanted to contact  her, I tried vo shift m, but didn't see how to 
> reply to her only.
> 
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli
> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
> 
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Re: Voiceover training manuals

[Rich Ring]

The reason the paid version of MS Word doesn't work with Voiceover is that 
Microsoft didn't abide by accessibility guidelines when creating the 
software. Shame on them.
- Original Message - 
From: "cathyk" 
To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Voiceover training manuals


Thanks for doing these manuals - what a great service!  Will there be
a central location where users can find them?

I think a VO wiki is a great idea.

Also, is there any hope of developing a fix so that VO will someday
work with the paid version of MS Word? It's such a key program, so key
that there's a Mac version.  Is VO access an issue to take up with
Apple or with Microsoft?
Cathyk

On Jul 15, 9:43 am, Chris Moore  wrote:
> Perhaps we should create a voice over wiki area where we can all 
> contribute and keep them up to date on a variety of apps.
> On 15 Jul 2010, at 17:33, Eric Caron wrote:> Hi Scot,
>
> > I would find manuals designed for blind users especially helpful with 
> > Pages, Or other powerful word processor. But I would also grab up many 
> > others such as Amadeus Pro, Skype,iTunes,and other tutorials such as 
> > using Mobile me Gmail, and other web based services. And Don't forget 
> > Face book.
>
> > If you are sharing manuals you have all ready completed I'd love to hear 
> > them.
>
> > Eric Caron
>
> > On Jul 15, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Scott Ballard-Ridley wrote:
>
> >> Hi all
>
> >> I am currently in the process of writing a comprehensive database of 
> >> Voiceover for the mac. i am looking to make these manuals freely 
> >> available through a number of outlets. i have already written manuals 
> >> for the majority of the standard Apple apps that come with the OS but i 
> >> am also looking to write manuals for frequently used 3rd party apps. if 
> >> any of you can think of some manuals that you would like for apps that 
> >> you commonly use, would you be so kind as to let me know either through 
> >> this list or a direct message. kind regards
>
> >> Scott Ballard-Ridley
>
> >> Twitter: scottballardrid
>
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Re: iPhone signal loss

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello;  this is one of those things that is universal to computers and  
technology.  ever since the heartache and pain i caused myself by  
upgrading to internet explorer 5.0 on my old windows xp machine I've  
had the additude of I'm not going to upgrade to new versions until  
they have been out a while.  even without the complaints of members on  
the mac visionaireis list i held off on safari 5 and am still hesitant  
about moving up to snow lepard.  my life is complicated enough without  
my old friends deciding they don't want to play any more.  thanks and  
good luck, max

On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Chris Moore wrote:


H think I will wait until 4.1
On 16 Jul 2010, at 10:59, Bryan Smart wrote:

Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through,  
iTunes gave me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now,  
the iPhone won't talk, won't reboot (black screen), and, when I  
attach it to the Mac, and iTunes starts, iTunes says that it is  
unable to connect to the iPhone software update server. I'm  
obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the same  
computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some  
other people are having this problem, too, with no solution. Been  
trying to re-update for about 3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't  
look like there is any way to back out the update, or reset the  
phone and restore from a backup, since I get this error every time  
I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone has been successfully  
bricked.


Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but,  
since it appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore,  
I'm not sure what they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put  
it back in? That will be a trick.


I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to  
let anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect  
I'll be wasting expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple  
store, instead of working.


This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with  
Apple products. Extremely disappointed.


Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss

The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say  
the least.
People will appear to be getting less signal all the time,  
regardless of if they are left handed or not. The issue of signal  
los will still be present, but since everyone will appear to be  
getting less signal all the time, it won't be as noticeable.


On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:

Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls
than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure  
lately,

but so has at&t in my book.

Carolyn
- Original Message -
From: Chris Blouch
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss


I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM
pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.


http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
phone-4-this-friday/


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
_reception_issues.html

CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:
I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the
phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in  
or

out of the case and this isn with the new phone.

S
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:

Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to
be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4,  
when

it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.

When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes

Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other
idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these
devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic
feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I  
know Apple is working on this.
Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic  
feedback.


Doug



Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell   
wrote:


  Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may
eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On  
Jul 12, 2010, at

2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
  No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is  
limited
  on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being  
used.

  Doug


Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell   
wrote:


  Hey Dou

converting mp4 to mp3

[chad baker]

Hi i am using tooble for downloading youtube audio.
It saves it as mp4.
Is there a way to convert it to mp3.
thanks

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Re: Top ten things

[Pete Nalda]

Good tips, except for me, I had to dump the windows box in order to buy the 
Mac.  I now have a Mac that can run both, but Windows itself is too expensive. 
I could put Linux on here but I'm happy with this just fine :)

On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:02 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You Wrote:
> I am interested in knowing anyones top ten things I should know or do
> before I open the boxes with the new Mac Book Pro in it and begin the
> journey into changing from my PC life into a Mac style of computing.
> 
> Mark's Answer:
> 
> My answer is a simple one:
> There are 2 things I strongly recommend to anyone regardless of his/her 
> computer usage history:
> 1.  Remain open-minded about all that you encounter on the new operating 
> system.
> 
> 2.  Do not consider abandoning your previous operating system for there will 
> be aspects of it that work more conveniently than on the new operating 
> system.  
> 
> In short, there is no reason why one should be either a Mac user or a Windows 
> or for that matter a Linux user.  True power comes from   diversity.
> 
> Do not limit your possibilities by switching from one to another but rather 
> expand your options by adding a new tool to your proverbial toolbox.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:57 PM, 504 area wrote:
> 
>> I am interested in knowing anyones top ten things I should know or do
>> before I open the boxes with the new Mac Book Pro in it and begin the
>> journey into changing from my PC life into a Mac style of computing.
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sinking, importing and exporting contacts from the iPhone to the mac

[DJ Nezumi]

hi all
i was wondering if anyone could tell me how itunes actually sinks
contacts? i think i have sinked my contacts on to my mac. it says that
it uses mobile me which you have to apparently pay for.
i was wondering if anyone could tell me how if i needed to, to export
all my contacts back on to the iPhone?
hope this is understandable and sorry for the rambling.
much appriciated
Liam

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Re: iPhone signal loss

[Neil James]

Agreed. I'd much rather see the law suit challenging the monopolistic 
exclusivity deal between A T and T and Apple go forward rather then this silly 
law suit. As you said, you have 30 days to return the iPhone if you're not 
happy with it. On the other hand, the fact that Apple and ATT will not unlock 
an iPhone for use on another carrier even after one's 2 year contract with ATT 
has been fulfilled, is anti competitive to say the least.

Neil


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ricardo Walker 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:53 PM
  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss


  I think that law suit is a waste of tax payer money.  You have 30 days to 
return the iPhone and get your money back.  What's the problem?

  On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Carolyn wrote:


Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls than I 
do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, but so has at&t 
in my book.

Carolyn
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Blouch
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss


  I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM pacific 
time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.

  
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/

  
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4_reception_issues.html

  CB

  Sarah Alawami wrote:
I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the phone. I get 
great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or out of the case and 
this isn with the new phone.

S
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:

  Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be
correcting 
The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is held in a
left hand and the signal is lost.

When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. 
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes

Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other idevice. I
think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus far. I
personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get a
tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this.
Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. 

Doug



Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:

Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may eventually 
do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 2010, at
  2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. 
Doug


Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:

Hey Doug,

We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
  your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing 
information
about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The distances
you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am not
sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag itself.
So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, other
than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in the
phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I believe
did not happen yet.
On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

  That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying products
because you would not have to point a device at the product in 
question to
identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the
product and we should be able to identify it. As I understand it, the range
of RFID is quite large, something in the range of 30 feet. How do we
determine a product when we have a number of products in one area, a covert
full of cans and bottles, each presenting a signal that has a 30 foot
radius? 
Doug

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:

Doug,

I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more than
  we know. For example, I recently learned that the recycle bins 
our county
provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. Apparently the data collected
from the chips let's the county know how often we put the bins out. RFID
chips are being used more now because of the speed and ability to collect
data on products being shipped and received, etc.
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Re: sinking, importing and exporting contacts from the iPhone to the mac

[Chris Moore]

You do not need mobile me to sync contacts.  Syncing on the Mac happens between 
the address book on OS X and the address book on the iPhone, if you have the 
sync contacts ticked in iTunes then syncing will automatically occur.
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:45, DJ Nezumi wrote:

> hi all
> i was wondering if anyone could tell me how itunes actually sinks
> contacts? i think i have sinked my contacts on to my mac. it says that
> it uses mobile me which you have to apparently pay for.
> i was wondering if anyone could tell me how if i needed to, to export
> all my contacts back on to the iPhone?
> hope this is understandable and sorry for the rambling.
> much appriciated
> Liam
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live commentary of today's Apple Press conference

[Darcy Burnard]

Hi all.  I know this is extremely short notice, but today at 1 P.M. eastern, 10 
A.M. pacific, we'll be doing a live stream where we'll be giving commentary of 
today's Apple press conference.  We'll start shortly before the conference.  
You can listen at the following streaming URL.
> http://stations.ultrastreams.us:8213/listen.pls
The best way to interact with us during the show is via twitter.  We'll be 
using the hash tag #VoLive.
If you're not on twitter, you can e-mail us at s...@screenlessswitchers.com.
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Re: list question

[joseph]

Hi Sarai,

if i want to do so, i would go to the macvisionaries page then look
for the mail in question, then i would click on reply to auther.

just a thought.

hth

Allison Manzino wrote:
> Hi Sarai,
>
> THe only way I know how to do it is to interact with the message headers 
> field and hit command A and then command C. Then I add the person to my 
> addressbook and delete the text I don't need like their name before the 
> E-mail address. I hope that helps.
>
> Allison
>
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>
> > Hi all:
> > How can I contact a member off list. For example, I saw a message from 
> > Sara, and if I wanted to contact  her, I tried vo shift m, but didn't see 
> > how to reply to her only.
> >
> >
> > Sarai Bucciarelli
> > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
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youtube to mp3 converter

[joseph]

hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

thank you in advance

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Re: iPhone signal loss

[Carolyn]

Brian:
Please pardon the cleche, but I feel your pain.  One thing I learned from my 
Apple trainers is, let everyone else muck around with those updates, until the 
bugs are discovered.  I know, if we all did that, nothing would get done.  
Still, seems to me I know just enough to get into the kind of trouble you're 
now having.  So, I'm crhying geek tears with you
Good luck

Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bryan Smart 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:59 AM
  Subject: RE: iPhone signal loss


  Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes gave 
me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't talk, 
won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and iTunes 
starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone software update 
server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the same 
computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some other people are 
having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to re-update for about 
3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any way to back out the 
update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, since I get this error 
every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone has been successfully 
bricked.

  Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it 
appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what 
they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a 
trick.

  I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let 
anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting 
expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.

  This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple 
products. Extremely disappointed.

  Bryan

  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss

  The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
  People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, but 
since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it won't be 
as noticeable.

  On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
  > Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
  > than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
  > but so has at&t in my book.
  >
  > Carolyn
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Chris Blouch
  >   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  >   Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
  >   Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
  >
  >
  >   I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
  > pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
  >
  >
  > http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
  > phone-4-this-friday/
  >
  >
  > http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
  > _reception_issues.html
  >
  >   CB
  >
  >   Sarah Alawami wrote:
  > I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
  > phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
  > out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
  >
  > S
  > On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
  >
  >   Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
  > be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when 
  > it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
  >
  > When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
  > -Original Message-
  > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
  > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
  > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
  >
  > Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
  > idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these 
  > devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic 
  > feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple 
is working on this.
  > Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback.
  >
  > Doug
  >
  >
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  > On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
  >
  > Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may 
  > eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 
2010, at
  >   2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
  > No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
  > on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used.
  > Doug
  >
 

Re: iPhone signal loss

[Chris Blouch]

Actually, that one just got class action status on July 10:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/10/apple_att_iphone_exclusivity_lawsuit_granted_class_action_status.html

CB

Neil James wrote:
Agreed. I'd much rather see the law suit challenging the monopolistic 
exclusivity deal between A T and T and Apple go forward rather then 
this silly law suit. As you said, you have 30 days to return the 
iPhone if you're not happy with it. On the other hand, the fact that 
Apple and ATT will not unlock an iPhone for use on another carrier 
even after one's 2 year contract with ATT has been fulfilled, is anti 
competitive to say the least.
 
Neil
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Ricardo Walker 
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:53 PM
*Subject:* Re: iPhone signal loss

I think that law suit is a waste of tax payer money.  You have 30
days to return the iPhone and get your money back.  What's the
problem?
On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Carolyn wrote:


Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more
calls than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been
afailure lately, but so has at&t in my book.
 
Carolyn


- Original Message -
*From:* Chris Blouch 
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: iPhone signal loss

I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at
10AM pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.


http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4_reception_issues.html

CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:

I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or out of 
the case and this isn with the new phone.

S
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:

  

Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be
correcting 
The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is held in a

left hand and the signal is lost.

When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. 
-Original Message-

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes

Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
idevice. I
think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus 
far. I
personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get 
a
tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this.
Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. 


Doug



Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:


Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may eventually 
do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 2010, at
  

2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:


No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited

on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. 


Doug


Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:



Hey Doug,

We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
  

your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing information
about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The 
distances
you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am 
not
sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag 
itself.
So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, 
other
than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in 
the
phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I 
believe
did not happen yet.


On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

  

That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying products


because you would not have to point a device at the product in question 
to
identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the
product and we 

ichat question

[joseph]

hi

i tried to use ichat but i could not answer audio invitations to join
a chat.  is there a shortkey for accepting invitations?

thank you in advance.

regards

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Re: iPhone signal loss

[Chris Blouch]

Hmm. I just updated mine to 4.0.1 with no problems. The updater mainly 
said it was to address the incorrect signal bars calculation. I was 
hoping to have it fix a couple bugs. In particular:


1. If I'm sending and SMS message or a new email, I get stuck in the To: 
field. I start by making a new SMS message, I go to the To: field, type 
a few characters and pick from the autocomplete list. I flick to the 
message text field, and then decide to change the To: field. I go back 
there and double tap and then realize I didn't want that. So I try to 
flick back to the message field. It says 'text field message is editing 
character mode' but I'm actually still in the To field. I can't input a 
message no matter how much double-tapping I do. The only way out is to 
delete a couple times to get rid of the current to: entry and do it 
again. After that I can flick to the message fields and enter/edit text.


2. In the contact list, when I add another phone number I can't change 
the type. Without voiceover running the user just taps "mobile" or 
"iphone" or whatever the current label is and they get a picklist of 
options such as "home" or "work" but with voiceover I can only edit the 
phone number.


Neither of these are fixed in 4.0.1 and, yes, they have been sent to 
accessibil...@apple.com.


CB

Bryan Smart wrote:

Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes gave 
me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't talk, 
won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and iTunes 
starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone software update 
server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the same 
computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some other people are 
having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to re-update for about 
3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any way to back out the 
update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, since I get this error 
every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone has been successfully 
bricked.

Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it appears 
that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what they'll 
have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a trick.

I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let anything 
of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting expensive 
time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.

This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple products. 
Extremely disappointed.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss

The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, but 
since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it won't be 
as noticeable.

On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
  
Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
but so has at&t in my book.


Carolyn
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Blouch
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss


  I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.



http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
phone-4-this-friday/


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
_reception_issues.html

  CB

  Sarah Alawami wrote:
I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
out of the case and this isn with the new phone.


S
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:

  Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when 
it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.


When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes

Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these 
devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic 
feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know App

Possible ot: Audible up

[Carolyn]

Hi:
I appoligize for cross posting this.  Just a heads-up that Audible is starting 
to allow downloads.  I had to initiate twice, but am currently downloading from 
my library after several days of being unable to do so.
Carolyn

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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Chris Blouch]

I couldn't find a simple single step way to do it. Had to download the 
video first, which is just mpeg4. Then loaded it into Quicktime 7 (which 
has a lot more Save As options) and saved it as Audio AIFF. That gave me 
a standalone sound file which I could load up into itunes to make into 
an mp3.


CB

joseph wrote:

hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

thank you in advance

  


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Re: live commentary of today's Apple Press conference

[Chris Blouch]

At least they are giving away a free case to all the iPhone 4 users. 
That takes care of the immediate problem. Seems like they pulled it off 
pretty well.


CB

Darcy Burnard wrote:
Hi all.  I know this is extremely short notice, but today at 1 P.M. 
eastern, 10 A.M. pacific, we'll be doing a live stream where we'll be 
giving commentary of today's Apple press conference.  We'll start 
shortly before the conference.  You can listen at the following 
streaming URL.

*http://stations.ultrastreams.us:8213/listen.pls*
The best way to interact with us during the show is via twitter. 
 We'll be using the hash tag #VoLive.
If you're not on twitter, you can e-mail us at 
s...@screenlessswitchers.com .

Darcy

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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
How'd you download it to Mp4?
Courtney
On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I couldn't find a simple single step way to do it. Had to download the video 
> first, which is just mpeg4. Then loaded it into Quicktime 7 (which has a lot 
> more Save As options) and saved it as Audio AIFF. That gave me a standalone 
> sound file which I could load up into itunes to make into an mp3.
> 
> CB
> 
> joseph wrote:
>> hi list members
>> 
>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
>>  
> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download YouTube 
videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems prone to crashing 
quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or fixing this issue even 
though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button called "Audio only" 
does not only make it into audio, but still downloads the video as well as 
makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, whether it is "Download" or 
"Audio only". Unfortunately, for some weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if 
you can deal with that, you can just convert.

To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty happy 
with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
nicely when it wants to.

Regards,
Nic
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On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:

> hi list members
> 
> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
> 
> thank you in advance
> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Chris Blouch]

If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces 
that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should 
be one very large item (size is the second column) which is the video 
file itself. For example, here is one:


http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e

It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go 
to the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should 
now download the video file to your desktop.


I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While 
I was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this 
and make an mp3 file much easier:


http://www.gazzump.com/

You paste in the youtube url, such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4

and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you 
have to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you 
should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams 
Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" 
or whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
desktop.


CB

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

Well, there is something called Tooble  which 
will allow you to download YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you 
preview the application seems prone to crashing quite frequently, and 
the developer is not responding or fixing this issue even though it is 
being continuously updated. Also, the button called "Audio only" does 
not only make it into audio, but still downloads the video as well as 
makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, whether it is 
"Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some weird reason, it 
uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just convert.


To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 
I believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually 
pretty happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and 
brows your subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its 
shortcomings, it works nicely when it wants to.


Regards,
Nic
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GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com 
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hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

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Re: ichat question

[Chris Blouch]

I had to use Window Chooser (vo-f2 twice) and then pick the invitation 
window. Then I had to do a mouse click (Vo-shift-space) to activate it. 
Once there I could click the accept button. They could have made that a 
lot easier.


CB

joseph wrote:

hi

i tried to use ichat but i could not answer audio invitations to join
a chat.  is there a shortkey for accepting invitations?

thank you in advance.

regards

  


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Voiceover Reading messages table after Mail has been hidden. Just today it started this.

[Pete Nalda]

So, today, for some reason VO was reading the message table after mail was 
hidden.  I use Mail 4.3 in os X 10.6.4 on a macbook pro fwiw.  I also have zoom 
turned on as was trackpad commander.  Anyone else experience this?

Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

How did you doownload the youtub vid? I tried following the blog's directions 
by gong to the activities window and clickint on the web thing that was growing 
in size and it did not work.

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I couldn't find a simple single step way to do it. Had to download the video 
> first, which is just mpeg4. Then loaded it into Quicktime 7 (which has a lot 
> more Save As options) and saved it as Audio AIFF. That gave me a standalone 
> sound file which I could load up into itunes to make into an mp3.
> 
> CB
> 
> joseph wrote:
>> hi list members
>> 
>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
>>  
> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

Is there not  paogram called mactoobs or something like that?

Take care.

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
> YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems prone 
> to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or fixing 
> this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button 
> called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads the 
> video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, whether 
> it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some weird reason, it 
> uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just convert.
> 
> To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
> believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
> happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
> subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
> nicely when it wants to.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
> Facebook
> Twitter
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
> AIM: cincinster
> 
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
> 
>> hi list members
>> 
>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was a 
different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I did 
manage to find it.

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces that 
> make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be one 
> very large item (size is the second column) which is the video file itself. 
> For example, here is one:
> 
> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
> 
> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to 
> the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now 
> download the video file to your desktop.
> 
> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I was 
> hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and make an 
> mp3 file much easier:
> 
> http://www.gazzump.com/
> 
> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
> 
> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you have 
> to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you should find 
> a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' 
> medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" or whatever video 
> you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your desktop.
> 
> CB
> 
> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
>> YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems prone 
>> to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or fixing 
>> this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button 
>> called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads 
>> the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, 
>> whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some weird 
>> reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just 
>> convert.
>> 
>> To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
>> believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
>> happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
>> subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
>> nicely when it wants to.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
>> Facebook
>> Twitter
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
>> AIM: cincinster
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> hi list members
>>> 
>>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

That activity Monitor is an interesting approach. I'll have to see if it's 
actually possible for Danish keyboards to do the Apple and the A 
simultaneously, as we sometimes have issues with this.

Regards,
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On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces that 
> make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be one 
> very large item (size is the second column) which is the video file itself. 
> For example, here is one:
> 
> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
> 
> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to 
> the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now 
> download the video file to your desktop.
> 
> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I was 
> hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and make an 
> mp3 file much easier:
> 
> http://www.gazzump.com/
> 
> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
> 
> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you have 
> to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you should find 
> a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' 
> medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" or whatever video 
> you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your desktop.
> 
> CB
> 
> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
>> YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems prone 
>> to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or fixing 
>> this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button 
>> called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads 
>> the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, 
>> whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some weird 
>> reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just 
>> convert.
>> 
>> To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
>> believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
>> happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
>> subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
>> nicely when it wants to.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
>> Facebook
>> Twitter
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
>> AIM: cincinster
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> hi list members
>>> 
>>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Chris Blouch]

It's also under the Window pull-down menu so you don't have to do it via 
shortcuts.


CB

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

That activity Monitor is an interesting approach. I'll have to see if 
it's actually possible for Danish keyboards to do the Apple and the A 
simultaneously, as we sometimes have issues with this.


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On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up 
the activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the 
pieces that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there 
there should be one very large item (size is the second column) which 
is the video file itself. For example, here is one:


http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e

It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, 
go to the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It 
should now download the video file to your desktop.


I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. 
While I was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do 
all this and make an mp3 file much easier:


http://www.gazzump.com/

You paste in the youtube url, such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4

and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a 
Format popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. 
After that you have to wait while they download and convert the file. 
After that you should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star 
Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter 
- a cappella tribute" or whatever video you did link. Clicking that 
should drop an mp3 on your desktop.


CB

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

Well, there is something called Tooble  which 
will allow you to download YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you 
preview the application seems prone to crashing quite frequently, 
and the developer is not responding or fixing this issue even though 
it is being continuously updated. Also, the button called "Audio 
only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads the 
video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, 
whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some 
weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, 
you can just convert.


To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is 
$5 I believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm 
actually pretty happy with it as it allows you to download videos, 
search, and brows your subscriptions on your YouTube account. 
Despite its shortcomings, it works nicely when it wants to.


Regards,
Nic
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hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

Unfortunately the link I tried said it was only available for premium members 
and i tried to download it as an mp3. Um? did the site change?

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces that 
> make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be one 
> very large item (size is the second column) which is the video file itself. 
> For example, here is one:
> 
> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
> 
> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to 
> the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now 
> download the video file to your desktop.
> 
> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I was 
> hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and make an 
> mp3 file much easier:
> 
> http://www.gazzump.com/
> 
> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
> 
> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you have 
> to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you should find 
> a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' 
> medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" or whatever video 
> you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your desktop.
> 
> CB
> 
> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
>> YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems prone 
>> to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or fixing 
>> this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button 
>> called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads 
>> the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either button, 
>> whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some weird 
>> reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just 
>> convert.
>> 
>> To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
>> believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
>> happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
>> subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
>> nicely when it wants to.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> Twitter
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>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> hi list members
>>> 
>>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Chris Blouch]

That URL could be different based on where you are. They have a content 
distribution network so if you were in Toronto you would hit a server up 
there rather than hauling data from SanFranciso. The main thing is to 
look for a row which has a very large size. That should be the video 
content.


CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:

I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was a 
different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I did 
manage to find it.

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

  

If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces that 
make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be one very 
large item (size is the second column) which is the video file itself. For 
example, here is one:

http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e

It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to the 
download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now download 
the video file to your desktop.

I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I was 
hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and make an 
mp3 file much easier:

http://www.gazzump.com/

You paste in the youtube url, such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4

and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format popup and select 
MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you have to wait while they download 
and convert the file. After that you should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 
'Star Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella 
tribute" or whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
desktop.

CB

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:


Hi,

Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when 
you preview the application seems prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or 
fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button called "Audio 
only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. 
THis applies to either button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, 
for some weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just convert.

To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty happy 
with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
nicely when it wants to.

Regards,
Nic
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hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

thank you in advance

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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

Yep i did it and it saved as an flv file. vlc was the only thing that would 
play it. lol!
On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> That URL could be different based on where you are. They have a content 
> distribution network so if you were in Toronto you would hit a server up 
> there rather than hauling data from SanFranciso. The main thing is to look 
> for a row which has a very large size. That should be the video content.
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was a 
>> different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I did 
>> manage to find it.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
>>> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces 
>>> that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be 
>>> one very large item (size is the second column) which is the video file 
>>> itself. For example, here is one:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to 
>>> the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now 
>>> download the video file to your desktop.
>>> 
>>> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I 
>>> was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and 
>>> make an mp3 file much easier:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.gazzump.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
>>> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you 
>>> have to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you 
>>> should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams Is 
>>> The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" or 
>>> whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
>>> desktop.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
 YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems 
 prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or 
 fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the 
 button called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still 
 downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either 
 button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some 
 weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can 
 just convert.
 
 To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
 believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
 happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
 subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
 nicely when it wants to.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Mobile Me: 
 nic2...@me.com
 
 GoogleTalk: 
 chojiro1...@gmail.com
 
 Facebook
 Twitter
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> 
> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
> 
> thank you in advance
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Re: ichat question

[Sarah Alawami]

I went to the window menu found the call and then found the answer button.

Take care.

S
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> hi
> 
> i tried to use ichat but i could not answer audio invitations to join
> a chat.  is there a shortkey for accepting invitations?
> 
> thank you in advance.
> 
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Re: Top ten things

[Sarah Alawami]

Ah I was ble to upgrade windows for 29 bucks as I am a student and took 
advantage of the upgrade price.

good luck.
On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Good tips, except for me, I had to dump the windows box in order to buy the 
> Mac.  I now have a Mac that can run both, but Windows itself is too 
> expensive. I could put Linux on here but I'm happy with this just fine :)
> 
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:02 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You Wrote:
>> I am interested in knowing anyones top ten things I should know or do
>> before I open the boxes with the new Mac Book Pro in it and begin the
>> journey into changing from my PC life into a Mac style of computing.
>> 
>> Mark's Answer:
>> 
>> My answer is a simple one:
>> There are 2 things I strongly recommend to anyone regardless of his/her 
>> computer usage history:
>> 1.  Remain open-minded about all that you encounter on the new operating 
>> system.
>> 
>> 2.  Do not consider abandoning your previous operating system for there will 
>> be aspects of it that work more conveniently than on the new operating 
>> system.  
>> 
>> In short, there is no reason why one should be either a Mac user or a 
>> Windows or for that matter a Linux user.  True power comes from   diversity.
>> 
>> Do not limit your possibilities by switching from one to another but rather 
>> expand your options by adding a new tool to your proverbial toolbox.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:57 PM, 504 area wrote:
>> 
>>> I am interested in knowing anyones top ten things I should know or do
>>> before I open the boxes with the new Mac Book Pro in it and begin the
>>> journey into changing from my PC life into a Mac style of computing.
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Chris Blouch]

That's a good step forward. At least you have the file now, even if it 
is an FLV.


CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:

Yep i did it and it saved as an flv file. vlc was the only thing that would 
play it. lol!
On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

  

That URL could be different based on where you are. They have a content 
distribution network so if you were in Toronto you would hit a server up there 
rather than hauling data from SanFranciso. The main thing is to look for a row 
which has a very large size. That should be the video content.

CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:


I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was a 
different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I did 
manage to find it.

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

  

  

If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces that 
make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be one very 
large item (size is the second column) which is the video file itself. For 
example, here is one:


http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e


It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to the 
download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now download 
the video file to your desktop.

I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I was 
hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and make an 
mp3 file much easier:


http://www.gazzump.com/


You paste in the youtube url, such as this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4


and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format popup and select 
MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you have to wait while they download 
and convert the file. After that you should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 
'Star Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella 
tribute" or whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
desktop.

CB

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:




Hi,

Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when 
you preview the application seems prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or 
fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button called "Audio 
only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. 
THis applies to either button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, 
for some weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just convert.

To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty happy 
with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
nicely when it wants to.

Regards,
Nic
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hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Chris Blouch]

You're saying the gazzump site didn't work? I just tried it before I 
sent the email.


CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:

Unfortunately the link I tried said it was only available for premium members 
and i tried to download it as an mp3. Um? did the site change?

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

  

If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces that 
make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be one very 
large item (size is the second column) which is the video file itself. For 
example, here is one:

http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e

It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to the 
download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now download 
the video file to your desktop.

I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I was 
hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and make an 
mp3 file much easier:

http://www.gazzump.com/

You paste in the youtube url, such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4

and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format popup and select 
MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you have to wait while they download 
and convert the file. After that you should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 
'Star Wars (John Williams Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella 
tribute" or whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
desktop.

CB

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:


Hi,

Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when 
you preview the application seems prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or 
fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the button called "Audio 
only" does not only make it into audio, but still downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. 
THis applies to either button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, 
for some weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can just convert.

To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty happy 
with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
nicely when it wants to.

Regards,
Nic
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hi list members

is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?

thank you in advance

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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

I'll have to try that, then. I guess I haven't been looking closely enough.

regards,
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On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> That URL could be different based on where you are. They have a content 
> distribution network so if you were in Toronto you would hit a server up 
> there rather than hauling data from SanFranciso. The main thing is to look 
> for a row which has a very large size. That should be the video content.
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was a 
>> different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I did 
>> manage to find it.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
>>> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces 
>>> that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be 
>>> one very large item (size is the second column) which is the video file 
>>> itself. For example, here is one:
>>> 
>>> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
>>> 
>>> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to 
>>> the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now 
>>> download the video file to your desktop.
>>> 
>>> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I 
>>> was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and 
>>> make an mp3 file much easier:
>>> 
>>> http://www.gazzump.com/
>>> 
>>> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
>>> 
>>> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
>>> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you 
>>> have to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you 
>>> should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams Is 
>>> The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" or 
>>> whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
>>> desktop.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
 YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems 
 prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or 
 fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the 
 button called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still 
 downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either 
 button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some 
 weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can 
 just convert.
 
 To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
 believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
 happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
 subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
 nicely when it wants to.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
 GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
 Facebook
 Twitter
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
 AIM: cincinster
 
 On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
 
   
> hi list members
> 
> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
> 
> thank you in advance
> 
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Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor

[Chris Blouch]

I had written up a lot of detail on this some time back which you can 
find in the mail archives. Short version is that in the most recent 
minis they now bog down unless a monitor is detected. The cheap fix used 
to be to get a mini to NTSC/PAL adaptor which made the mini think it was 
hooked up to something, but the analog stuff has been dropped from the 
modern minis. I was able to work around this by getting a DVI->VGA 
adapter and a VGA->NTSC adapter. Worked out well since we did want it 
hooked up to the TV anyway so the kids can get their Elmo fix. The 
detect is actually done by sending signals down certain pins and getting 
something back on other pins. With nothing hooked up this detection 
fails and weird stuff starts happening. A cheap used VGA display is 
probably the cheapest solution. They used to sell VGA terminators but 
every place I found on the web had them discontinued. There are 
tutorials out there on how to make your own if you know somebody who is 
good with a soldering iron. I think these might be the right things for 
$33, which is really steep for what should be a $5 plug.


CB

Simon F wrote:

No one is ever forced to purchase something they don't need. Purchasing
something you didn't need is a personal choice.

If you purchased a mac mini and then needed a screen / monitor for it, think
about who actually made you get the mini, you could have got a mac book or I
mac.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy
Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 6:50 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor

Please, spare us this!

While I think it would be nice if the mini worked without a monitor, please,
don't give us this stuff about being forced to buy something you don't need.
Personally, I have a vary old monitor which I keep around just in case I get
in to trouble where sighted assistance is necessary.  I am sure that most of
us who came from windows know that does happen from time to time to even the
best of us. So, even though I have never yet had a problem on the mac where
sighted assistance was definitely necessary, I have learned that having a
vary inexpensive monitor around is a good idea regardless.

You can buy a used 1 for $50 or less, especially an old 15 inch LCD or
something like that.

On my mini, I have found that any old monitor would solve the problem and
didn't even have to be turned on.  So, I hope we don't go off on the whole
needing a monitor thing, because, it's really trivial!


On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

  

Why is it sluggish without a monitor?  That does not make sense.  Why


should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and
running up extra electricity costs.
  

Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies!

I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one.
On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote:



Hi,
I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't
  

use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't
really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works
fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though.
  

Hth,
Courtney
On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

  
I"m not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for 
the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required


for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required
but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
  

Hi, all.
	I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of 
the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. 
Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be 
possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings 
required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it 
just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the
  

system?
  

Thanks in advance.
Aman


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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah but I don' know what to do with it. amadeus won't open it and vlc media 
player converted it to the wrong format even though I said to convert it to 
mp3. quicktime wont' even touch it. lol.
On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> That's a good step forward. At least you have the file now, even if it is an 
> FLV.
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Yep i did it and it saved as an flv file. vlc was the only thing that would 
>> play it. lol!
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>> That URL could be different based on where you are. They have a content 
>>> distribution network so if you were in Toronto you would hit a server up 
>>> there rather than hauling data from SanFranciso. The main thing is to look 
>>> for a row which has a very large size. That should be the video content.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was a 
 different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I 
 did manage to find it.
 
 S
 On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
   
 
   
 
> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces 
> that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should 
> be one very large item (size is the second column) which is the video 
> file itself. For example, here is one:
> 
> 
> 
> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
> 
> 
> 
> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go 
> to the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should 
> now download the video file to your desktop.
> 
> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I 
> was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and 
> make an mp3 file much easier:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.gazzump.com/
> 
> 
> 
> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
> 
> 
> 
> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you 
> have to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you 
> should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams 
> Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" 
> or whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
> desktop.
> 
> CB
> 
> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
>> YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems 
>> prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding 
>> or fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, 
>> the button called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but 
>> still downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies 
>> to either button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". 
>> Unfortunately, for some weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you 
>> can deal with that, you can just convert.
>> 
>> To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
>> believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually 
>> pretty happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and 
>> brows your subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its 
>> shortcomings, it works nicely when it wants to.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: 
>> 
>> nic2...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> GoogleTalk: 
>> 
>> chojiro1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> Facebook
>> Twitter
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: 
>> 
>> nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> 
>> 
>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
>> AIM: cincinster
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>> hi list members
>>> 
>>> is there any voice over friendly version of the mentioned above?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Sarah Alawami]

When I hit the convert button it said that the video was only available to 
premium members. and I chose mp3.

for those who want to try that site cris mentioned here is the link to the vid 
I was trying to convert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XZCCR7DDUA

a beautiful piece if you ask me. lol!

S
On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> You're saying the gazzump site didn't work? I just tried it before I sent the 
> email.
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Unfortunately the link I tried said it was only available for premium 
>> members and i tried to download it as an mp3. Um? did the site change?
>> 
>> S
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
>>> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces 
>>> that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should be 
>>> one very large item (size is the second column) which is the video file 
>>> itself. For example, here is one:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go to 
>>> the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should now 
>>> download the video file to your desktop.
>>> 
>>> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While I 
>>> was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this and 
>>> make an mp3 file much easier:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.gazzump.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
>>> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you 
>>> have to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you 
>>> should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams Is 
>>> The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" or 
>>> whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
>>> desktop.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
 YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems 
 prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding or 
 fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. Also, the 
 button called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, but still 
 downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. THis applies to either 
 button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". Unfortunately, for some 
 weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you can deal with that, you can 
 just convert.
 
 To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 I 
 believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually pretty 
 happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and brows your 
 subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its shortcomings, it works 
 nicely when it wants to.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Mobile Me: 
 nic2...@me.com
 
 GoogleTalk: 
 chojiro1...@gmail.com
 
 Facebook
 Twitter
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: 
 nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 
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 On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:34 PM, joseph wrote:
 
   
 
> hi list members
> 
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Re: iPhone signal loss

[Ricardo Walker]

Uhm,

Snow leopards been out almost a year now.  I think your missing quite a bit.
On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> Hello;  this is one of those things that is universal to computers and 
> technology.  ever since the heartache and pain i caused myself by upgrading 
> to internet explorer 5.0 on my old windows xp machine I've had the additude 
> of I'm not going to upgrade to new versions until they have been out a while. 
>  even without the complaints of members on the mac visionaireis list i held 
> off on safari 5 and am still hesitant about moving up to snow lepard.  my 
> life is complicated enough without my old friends deciding they don't want to 
> play any more.  thanks and good luck, max
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> H think I will wait until 4.1
>> On 16 Jul 2010, at 10:59, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes 
>>> gave me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't 
>>> talk, won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and 
>>> iTunes starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone 
>>> software update server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this 
>>> message from the same computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, 
>>> and some other people are having this problem, too, with no solution. Been 
>>> trying to re-update for about 3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like 
>>> there is any way to back out the update, or reset the phone and restore 
>>> from a backup, since I get this error every time I attach the iPhone. Looks 
>>> like my phone has been successfully bricked.
>>> 
>>> Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it 
>>> appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what 
>>> they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a 
>>> trick.
>>> 
>>> I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let 
>>> anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be 
>>> wasting expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of 
>>> working.
>>> 
>>> This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple 
>>> products. Extremely disappointed.
>>> 
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>>> 
>>> The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
>>> People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
>>> they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, 
>>> but since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it 
>>> won't be as noticeable.
>>> 
>>> On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
 Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls
 than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately,
 but so has at&t in my book.
 
 Carolyn
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Blouch
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
 
 
 I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM
 pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
 
 
 http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
 phone-4-this-friday/
 
 
 http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
 _reception_issues.html
 
 CB
 
 Sarah Alawami wrote:
 I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the
 phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or
 out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
 
 S
 On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
 
 Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to
 be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when
 it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
 
 When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
 Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
 
 Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other
 idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these
 devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic
 feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple 
 is working on this.
 Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for

Re: iPhone signal loss

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

As for the first bug, their is no need to go through that deleting process to 
move the cursor to the message field.  Just do a pass through gesture in the 
message edit field.  This is done with a double tap and hold.  Similar to the 
gesture when wanting to delete an app. 

hth
On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Hmm. I just updated mine to 4.0.1 with no problems. The updater mainly said 
> it was to address the incorrect signal bars calculation. I was hoping to have 
> it fix a couple bugs. In particular:
> 
> 1. If I'm sending and SMS message or a new email, I get stuck in the To: 
> field. I start by making a new SMS message, I go to the To: field, type a few 
> characters and pick from the autocomplete list. I flick to the message text 
> field, and then decide to change the To: field. I go back there and double 
> tap and then realize I didn't want that. So I try to flick back to the 
> message field. It says 'text field message is editing character mode' but I'm 
> actually still in the To field. I can't input a message no matter how much 
> double-tapping I do. The only way out is to delete a couple times to get rid 
> of the current to: entry and do it again. After that I can flick to the 
> message fields and enter/edit text.
> 
> 2. In the contact list, when I add another phone number I can't change the 
> type. Without voiceover running the user just taps "mobile" or "iphone" or 
> whatever the current label is and they get a picklist of options such as 
> "home" or "work" but with voiceover I can only edit the phone number.
> 
> Neither of these are fixed in 4.0.1 and, yes, they have been sent to 
> accessibil...@apple.com.
> 
> CB
> 
> Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>> Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes 
>> gave me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't 
>> talk, won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and 
>> iTunes starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone 
>> software update server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message 
>> from the same computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some 
>> other people are having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to 
>> re-update for about 3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any 
>> way to back out the update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, 
>> since I get this error every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone 
>> has been successfully bricked.
>> 
>> Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it 
>> appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what 
>> they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a 
>> trick.
>> 
>> I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let 
>> anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting 
>> expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.
>> 
>> This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple 
>> products. Extremely disappointed.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>> 
>> The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
>> People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
>> they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, 
>> but since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it 
>> won't be as noticeable.
>> 
>> On 15/07/2010, Carolyn  wrote:
>>   
>>> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
>>> than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
>>> but so has at&t in my book.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Chris Blouch
>>>   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>   Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
>>> pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
>>> phone-4-this-friday/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
>>> _reception_issues.html
>>> 
>>>   CB
>>> 
>>>   Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
>>> phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
>>> out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
>>> be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on

Re: iPhone signal loss

[Ricardo Walker]

Yes,

I agree.  I think that law suit is more important than this hack job.  I really 
don't understand the purpose.  What are they trying to gain?
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Neil James wrote:

> Agreed. I'd much rather see the law suit challenging the monopolistic 
> exclusivity deal between A T and T and Apple go forward rather then this 
> silly law suit. As you said, you have 30 days to return the iPhone if you're 
> not happy with it. On the other hand, the fact that Apple and ATT will not 
> unlock an iPhone for use on another carrier even after one's 2 year contract 
> with ATT has been fulfilled, is anti competitive to say the least.
>  
> Neil
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Ricardo Walker
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
> 
> I think that law suit is a waste of tax payer money.  You have 30 days to 
> return the iPhone and get your money back.  What's the problem?
> On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
>> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls than I do 
>> pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, but so has at&t 
>> in my book.
>>  
>> Carolyn
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chris Blouch
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>> 
>> I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM pacific 
>> time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
>> 
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/
>> 
>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4_reception_issues.html
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the phone. I 
>>> get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or out of the 
>>> case and this isn with the new phone.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be
 correcting 
 The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is held in a
 left hand and the signal is lost.
 
 When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
 Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
 
 Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other idevice. I
 think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus far. I
 personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get a
 tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this.
 Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. 
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
 
 
> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may eventually 
> do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 2010, at
>   
 2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
 
>> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
>> 
 on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. 
 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey Doug,
>>> 
>>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
>>>   
 your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing information
 about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The distances
 you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am not
 sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag itself.
 So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, other
 than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in the
 phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I believe
 did not happen yet.
 
>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying products
 
 because you would not have to point a device at the product in question to
 identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the
 product and we should be able to identify it. As I understand it, the range
 of RFID is quite large, something in the range of 30 feet. How do we
 determine a product when we have a number of products in one area, a covert
 full of cans and bottles, each presenting a si

Re: youtube to mp3 converter

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Joseph,

Have you tried Audio Hijack? THat's what I use. It's in real time so you have 
to play the video first before you can convert it. It's the only way I know 
how. I was trying a program called get tube. But unfortunately it's 
inaccessible as far as my experience goes. Well, I hope you are having a great 
evening.

Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Yeah but I don' know what to do with it. amadeus won't open it and vlc media 
> player converted it to the wrong format even though I said to convert it to 
> mp3. quicktime wont' even touch it. lol.
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> That's a good step forward. At least you have the file now, even if it is an 
>> FLV.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> Yep i did it and it saved as an flv file. vlc was the only thing that would 
>>> play it. lol!
>>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 That URL could be different based on where you are. They have a content 
 distribution network so if you were in Toronto you would hit a server up 
 there rather than hauling data from SanFranciso. The main thing is to look 
 for a row which has a very large size. That should be the video content.
 
 CB
 
 Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 
> I could not find the url when I tried that youtube link. actually it was 
> a different one. lol! but copying the address resulted in an error when I 
> did manage to find it.
> 
> S
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> If you have the video loaded on the youtube page in Safari, open up the 
>> activity monitor with option-apple-a. That is the list of all the pieces 
>> that make up the page in a table. If you hunt through there there should 
>> be one very large item (size is the second column) which is the video 
>> file itself. For example, here is one:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://v17.lscache8.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor%2Coc%3AU0dWTlNNVl9FSkNNNl9LR1pF&fexp=907027&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=35&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1279328400&key=yt1&signature=C635179F80C22DA2B15C5E1E3C46184E36A5DAFE.B1C972DD07DA59410E03086FE7CD1CB30C5C3392&factor=1.25&id=964e7f392b1ac33e
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It was 21.8MB while everything else was 100KB or less. Copy that URL, go 
>> to the download manager, command-option-l, then paste the URL. It should 
>> now download the video file to your desktop.
>> 
>> I noticed that not all video files are mp4, but most seems to be. While 
>> I was hunting around I also found this site which seems to do all this 
>> and make an mp3 file much easier:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.gazzump.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You paste in the youtube url, such as this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> and click the download button. On the next page find the Choose a Format 
>> popup and select MP3 then VO right to the Convert button. After that you 
>> have to wait while they download and convert the file. After that you 
>> should find a "Click here to download YouTube- 'Star Wars (John Williams 
>> Is The Man)' medley - Corey Vidal and Moosebutter - a cappella tribute" 
>> or whatever video you did link. Clicking that should drop an mp3 on your 
>> desktop.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Well, there is something called Tooble which will allow you to download 
>>> YouTube videos. Unfortunately, when you preview the application seems 
>>> prone to crashing quite frequently, and the developer is not responding 
>>> or fixing this issue even though it is being continuously updated. 
>>> Also, the button called "Audio only" does not only make it into audio, 
>>> but still downloads the video as well as makes an audio file. THis 
>>> applies to either button, whether it is "Download" or "Audio only". 
>>> Unfortunately, for some weird reason, it uses .wav format but, if you 
>>> can deal with that, you can just convert.
>>> 
>>> To download, however, you will need to purchase Tooble Pro which is $5 
>>> I believe. That is the only one I was able to find, and I'm actually 
>>> pretty happy with it as it allows you to download videos, search, and 
>>> brows your subscriptions on your YouTube account. Despite its 
>>> shortcomings, it works nicely when it wants to.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> Mobile Me: 
>>> 
>>> nic2...@me.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> GoogleTalk: 
>>> 
>>> chojiro1...@gmail.com
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Re: converting mp4 to mp3

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Chad,

THe only way I know how to do this is through Amadeus. DOesn't Switch or 
Handbreak convert to mp3 also? I don't use Switch anymore, but I believe it 
does the trick. It's either Switch or Handbreak that will convert it from mp4 
to mp3. I hope that helps.

Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:48 AM, chad baker wrote:

> Hi i am using tooble for downloading youtube audio.
> It saves it as mp4.
> Is there a way to convert it to mp3.
> thanks
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Experiences with iBank?

[Alfred Puzzuoli]

Hi,
Just wondering whether anyone has had experience with iBank Financial 
Management Software? The initial setup process seems relatively accessible, but 
my bank isn't supported for Direct download, so I haven't gotten very far in 
terms of configuration as of yet.

Thanks for any info,

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Backing up Boot Camp with Time Machine

[Justin Kauflin]

Hey, while changing the disc I use with Time Machine, I noticed that I
could add my Boot Camp partition to the list of partitions to back
up.  Has anybody done this, and would this actually make it possible
to restore the Boot Camp if I needed to?
Just wondering.  Thanks for any feedback.
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Re: shortcut key for opening documents folder

[Dan Roy]

command-shift-O


On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:04 AM, michael babcock wrote:

> you can do vo+H to open the home folder, but I don't know of one to go to the 
> documents folder.
> On Jul 14, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I have a vague recollection that someone once said there is a shortcut key 
>> for opening the documents folder, something similar to VO_D for going to the 
>> Dock.  Is there such a key?  Having to open my hard disk, and then go 
>> through all the folders till I get to documents is really getting on my 
>> nerves, and it seems like if you open documents from the dock, you aren't 
>> able to manipulate files to the extent that you can if you just go in the 
>> long way.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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