Uhm, Snow leopards been out almost a year now. I think your missing quite a bit. On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello; this is one of those things that is universal to computers and > technology. ever since the heartache and pain i caused myself by upgrading > to internet explorer 5.0 on my old windows xp machine I've had the additude > of I'm not going to upgrade to new versions until they have been out a while. > even without the complaints of members on the mac visionaireis list i held > off on safari 5 and am still hesitant about moving up to snow lepard. my > life is complicated enough without my old friends deciding they don't want to > play any more. thanks and good luck, max > On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Hmmmm think I will wait until 4.1 >> On 16 Jul 2010, at 10:59, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >>> Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes >>> gave me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't >>> talk, won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and >>> iTunes starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone >>> software update server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this >>> message from the same computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, >>> and some other people are having this problem, too, with no solution. Been >>> trying to re-update for about 3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like >>> there is any way to back out the update, or reset the phone and restore >>> from a backup, since I get this error every time I attach the iPhone. Looks >>> like my phone has been successfully bricked. >>> >>> Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it >>> appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what >>> they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a >>> trick. >>> >>> I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let >>> anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be >>> wasting expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of >>> working. >>> >>> This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple >>> products. Extremely disappointed. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose >>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss >>> >>> The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least. >>> People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if >>> they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, >>> but since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it >>> won't be as noticeable. >>> >>> On 15/07/2010, Carolyn <ch...@q.com> wrote: >>>> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention. I drop more calls >>>> than I do pounds on a diet! Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, >>>> but so has at&t in my book. >>>> >>>> Carolyn >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Chris Blouch >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM >>>> pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i >>>> phone-4-this-friday/ >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4 >>>> _reception_issues.html >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the >>>> phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or >>>> out of the case and this isn with the new phone. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to >>>> be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when >>>> it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost. >>>> >>>> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m. >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes >>>> >>>> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other >>>> idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these >>>> devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic >>>> feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple >>>> is working on this. >>>> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. >>>> >>>> Doug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may >>>> eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, >>>> 2010, at >>>> 2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>>> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited >>>> on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. >>>> Doug >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Doug, >>>> >>>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer >>>> your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing >>>> information about a specific product, you would have to get pretty >>>> close. The distances you refer too is more useful for warehouses, >>>> dockyards, and such. I am not sure if the ability to read is based on >>>> the scanner or the RFID tag itself. >>>> So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, >>>> other than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these >>>> readers in the phone, but I thought it was to be included in version >>>> 4, but that I believe did not happen yet. >>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>>> >>>> That's interesting, RFID would be much better for >>>> identifying products >>>> because you would not have to point a device at the >>>> product in question to identify it. Just get a reader in the general >>>> direztion of the of the product and we should be able to identify it. >>>> As I understand it, the range of RFID is quite large, something in the >>>> range of 30 feet. How do we determine a product when we have a number >>>> of products in one area, a covert full of cans and bottles, each >>>> presenting a signal that has a 30 foot radius? >>>> Doug >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Doug, >>>> >>>> I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more than >>>> we know. For example, I recently learned that the >>>> recycle bins our county provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. >>>> Apparently the data collected from the chips let's the county know how >>>> often we put the bins out. 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