Yes,

I agree.  I think that law suit is more important than this hack job.  I really 
don't understand the purpose.  What are they trying to gain?
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Neil James wrote:

> Agreed. I'd much rather see the law suit challenging the monopolistic 
> exclusivity deal between A T and T and Apple go forward rather then this 
> silly law suit. As you said, you have 30 days to return the iPhone if you're 
> not happy with it. On the other hand, the fact that Apple and ATT will not 
> unlock an iPhone for use on another carrier even after one's 2 year contract 
> with ATT has been fulfilled, is anti competitive to say the least.
>  
> Neil
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ricardo Walker
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
> 
> I think that law suit is a waste of tax payer money.  You have 30 days to 
> return the iPhone and get your money back.  What's the problem?
> On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
>> Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls than I do 
>> pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, but so has at&t 
>> in my book.
>>  
>> Carolyn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Blouch
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
>> 
>> I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM pacific 
>> time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
>> 
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/
>> 
>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4_reception_issues.html
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the phone. I 
>>> get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or out of the 
>>> case and this isn with the new phone.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be
>>>> correcting 
>>>> The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is held in a
>>>> left hand and the signal is lost.
>>>> 
>>>> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other idevice. I
>>>> think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus far. I
>>>> personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get a
>>>> tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this.
>>>> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. 
>>>> 
>>>> Doug
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>     
>>>>> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may eventually 
>>>>> do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 2010, at
>>>>>       
>>>> 2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>>> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
>>>>>>         
>>>> on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. 
>>>>     
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>> Hey Doug,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
>>>>>>>           
>>>> your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing information
>>>> about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The distances
>>>> you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am not
>>>> sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag itself.
>>>> So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, other
>>>> than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in the
>>>> phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I believe
>>>> did not happen yet.
>>>>     
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying products
>>>>>>>>             
>>>> because you would not have to point a device at the product in question to
>>>> identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the
>>>> product and we should be able to identify it. As I understand it, the range
>>>> of RFID is quite large, something in the range of 30 feet. How do we
>>>> determine a product when we have a number of products in one area, a covert
>>>> full of cans and bottles, each presenting a signal that has a 30 foot
>>>> radius? 
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more than
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>> we know. For example, I recently learned that the recycle bins our county
>>>> provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. Apparently the data collected
>>>> from the chips let's the county know how often we put the bins out. RFID
>>>> chips are being used more now because of the speed and ability to collect
>>>> data on products being shipped and received, etc.
>>>>     
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