Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi Anouk. I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my problems with it is gone. I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I have same issue with alva satelite. I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all with screenreader, only on mac, great!). And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep works well too. So I'm happy with my mac system. Good luck with your mac! Regards Tony 2009/10/21, a radix : > Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially at school > although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below why. In > general my experiences with the mac have been very positive especially after > installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on my pc. > And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching movies and > listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office suite > because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/office > suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage band in > the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I like the > built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its sound > output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find using > the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my pc and it > goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I cannot > endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue reading, > eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if I want > to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need to read > long documents. > At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten mail > working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under windows to > scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning > solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers for sl > have been released I just dont know if they will be as good and easy as > using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because of that (I > really really hope that a full version of finereader will eventually be > released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage pro). > Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does work on the mac > with transmit which I rather like although I have not registered it yet, > questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet also works but > udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are not available on > the mac. > The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the pec especially > interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for interactive > fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open games with it > saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a saved game file > (made in frotz). > For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play them all the time > on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of which works under > sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which works under java. It > is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has promised to look > at it, still it does not offer all the features even then that I am used to > on a windows client. > As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am planning to install > it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least can use my mac all > the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the scanning and > downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the mac and I have > hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is mostly used at school > and in the library. > Greetings, Anouk, > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googl
Re: installed sl
Hi May, You don't need to add the FN-key when using a Macbook type. Here's how to change that so you don't. 1) Go into System Preferences 2) Go into Keyboard 3) Find the tab called "Keyboard" and select it. 4) Find the checkbox named something similar to "Use all F1, F2 etc. keys as standard function keys" and select it. This makes it so that you don't need to hold down the FN-key to perform software functions. This only applies to hardware functions when changing this. What this essentially does, is to change it so it works differently. If this option isn't set, you will have to hold down the FN-key to perform software functions, because when it is not set, the keys are set to perform hardware tasks. If you check the box, you will set it so that it is not necessary to hold down said key to perform any software functions, but it will be necessary to hold down FN when performing a hardware function. In short, All the FN-key does is to make the keystroke work the opposite of how you set it. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > Hello. You usually can open the VoiceOver utility by hitting control > +option+f8. You may have to add the FN key, so in that case it would > be fn+control+option+f8. You can also change some speach settings on > the fly by holding down the control+option+command with the arrows. > For example, if You wanted to change the rate, you would hold down > control+option+command with rightarrow until you heard rate. Then you > would hold down the control+option+command with up or downarrows to > change the rate. > > On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:46 PM, May McDonald wrote: > >> >> Ok, after a few wrong starts I now have sl installed. Heheheeh, now >> ho in the heck do I find the voice over utility so I can slow down >> the >> speech, lol. It's talking faster than how I had it set. I'm only a >> tiny bit lost, smile. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, last I heard and extremely accessible. As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too high, otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test different setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer and require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > Hi Anouk. > I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still > use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and > ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the > jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no > longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual > machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual > machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a > ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to > setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm > very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my > problems with it is gone. > I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I > have same issue with alva satelite. > I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason > doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very > tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works > great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all > with screenreader, only on mac, great!). > And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take > forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep > works well too. > So I'm happy with my mac system. > Good luck with your mac! > Regards Tony > > 2009/10/21, a radix : >> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially >> at school >> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below >> why. In >> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >> especially after >> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on >> my pc. >> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching >> movies and >> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office >> suite >> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ >> office >> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage >> band in >> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I >> like the >> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its >> sound >> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find >> using >> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my >> pc and it >> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I cannot >> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue >> reading, >> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if >> I want >> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need >> to read >> long documents. >> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten >> mail >> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under >> windows to >> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning >> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers >> for sl >> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good and >> easy as >> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because of >> that (I >> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >> eventually be >> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage pro). >> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does work on >> the mac >> with transmit which I rather like although I have not registered it >> yet, >> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet also >> works but >> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are not >> available on >> the mac. >> The third poin
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) Funny we started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you broadcast on the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont either. I was thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just thinking to ask my brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has anyone got experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot? Is it diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook pro will be available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an dreadiris, in fact i have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp releases the drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by that time abbyy will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is native to sl. I am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be very slow or dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i thought it was something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess we will both have to mail apple accessibility about this. So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next thing i want to taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and it is taking up space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the past bu tI had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to analog. There are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or otherwise) and I guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you use? I guess as long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it indeed can find the channels). I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine off, just close the lid and thats it. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: "Tony Bernedal" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac > > Hi Anouk. > I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still > use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and > ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the > jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no > longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual > machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual > machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a > ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to > setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm > very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my > problems with it is gone. > I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I > have same issue with alva satelite. > I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason > doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very > tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works > great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all > with screenreader, only on mac, great!). > And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take > forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep > works well too. > So I'm happy with my mac system. > Good luck with your mac! > Regards Tony > > 2009/10/21, a radix : >> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially at >> school >> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below why. In >> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive especially >> after >> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on my >> pc. >> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching movies >> and >> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office suite >> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/office >> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage band >> in >> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I like the >> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its sound >> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find using >> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my pc and >> it >> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I cannot >> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue >> reading, >> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if I >> want >> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need to >> read >> long documents. >> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten mail >> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under windows >> to >> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning >> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp driver
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hello, well taking the plunge is fine, if there is software available on the other side to plunge into... I must say though that I am very happy with voicover and how it works, after a learning curve. Just a pity that not all programs for the mac are written in cocoa. I guess i will eventually get a usenet account, i just prefer other programs to search/find stuff quickly that I want. But in some ways usenet would be better for me because it would actually utilize the boatloads of speed that my broadband connection offers. About atlantis, I am pretty sure it does not work on snow leopard and I also think that the developer is no longer working on it. I tried to mail a lot of people about mudclients for the mac and the only one that respodned was the jamochamud person. I am not really familiar with how I can use terminal, i tried it in the past briefly but was very much confused because it does not really seem to be like either linux shell, run or a dos prompt so I stopped tyring it at that time hoping htat jamochamud would eventually be able to do the trick. I hope that if i install the native hp driver for sl there will be no need for vuescan and I can just use either vuescan OR readiris. It really sucks that changing memory uses up a new key, i dont think this is the case with hal because in the past i had 4gb ddr2 and i changed it to 4 gb ddr3, i think changing the graphics card does have this effect though. Another thing is, in the past i was a diehard braille user but now that I use sl I actually often use speech as well for surfing the web or navitgating programs. One last thing, 2 usb ports on my laptop is just too little, I REALLY hope that macs in the future will have at least 3 usb ports because I think thats a minimum required these days. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: "Nicolai Svendsen" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac > > Hi, > > Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, last I > heard and extremely accessible. > > As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a > new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much > completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That > is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the > developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver > support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. > I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. > > As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends > how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too high, > otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test different > setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as > authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the > ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer and > require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. > > Regards, > Nic > > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > >> >> Hi Anouk. >> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still >> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the >> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual >> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >> problems with it is gone. >> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >> have same issue with alva satelite. >> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very >> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works >> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep >> works well too. >> So I'm happy with my mac system. >> Good luck with your mac! >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a radix : >>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially >>> at school >>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below >>> why. In >>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>> especially after >>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype a
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi again. Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ I'll try it when I'm back home from work. Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it doesn't work as I want at the moment. I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see how it works with swedish language and so on. I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the moment I haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it doesn't have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under the desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff if I want to. Regards Tony 2009/10/21, a radix : > > Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) Funny we > started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you broadcast on > the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont either. I was > thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just thinking to ask my > brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has anyone got > experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot? Is it > diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook pro will be > available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an dreadiris, in fact i > have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp releases the > drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by that time abbyy > will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is native to sl. I > am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be very slow or > dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. > I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i thought it was > something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess we will both > have to mail apple accessibility about this. > So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next thing i want to > taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and it is taking up > space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the past bu tI > had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to analog. There > are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or otherwise) and I > guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you use? I guess as > long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it indeed can find the > channels). > I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine off, just close > the lid and thats it. > Greetings, Anouk, > - Original Message - > From: "Tony Bernedal" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac > > >> >> Hi Anouk. >> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still >> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the >> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual >> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >> problems with it is gone. >> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >> have same issue with alva satelite. >> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very >> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works >> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep >> works well too. >> So I'm happy with my mac system. >> Good luck with your mac! >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a radix : >>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially at >>> school >>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below why. In >>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive especially >>> after >>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on my >>> pc. >>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching movies >>> and >>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office suite >>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/office >>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage band >>> in >>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I like the >>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening
Re: Checking VoiceMail on Skype
Hi, I'm assuming the voicemail that you're talking about is your Skype voicemail. What usually works for me, is to go to the history window in Skype, with command-4, and then I can interact with the table there, and go through anything I may have missed, such as calls, chats, and voicemails. Hope this helps. On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I'm trying to check voicemail on Skype with the Mac. I thought it was > far easier here than with Windows but I can't seem to remember how to > do it. I've downloaded the latest update, so am not sure if that's > causing the problem. I could've sworn there are some packages (even > for Windows) for checking voicemail on there. Isn't there one for the > blind too? I actually have Voice Recorder for the mac but it's no > help when I can't check my messages. > > Thanks, > Eleni > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi again folks, Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba http://rogueamoeba.com works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects scroll area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about. I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. If you can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally love using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much faster. Also, which braille display are you using? Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > Hi again. > Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found > http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ > I'll try it when I'm back home from work. > Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on > windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it > doesn't work as I want at the moment. > I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see how it > works with swedish language and so on. > I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the moment I > haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it doesn't > have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under the > desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff if I > want to. > Regards Tony > > 2009/10/21, a radix : >> >> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) Funny >> we >> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you >> broadcast on >> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont >> either. I was >> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just thinking >> to ask my >> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has >> anyone got >> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot? Is it >> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook pro >> will be >> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an dreadiris, in >> fact i >> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp >> releases the >> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by that >> time abbyy >> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is native >> to sl. I >> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be very >> slow or >> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. >> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i thought >> it was >> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess we >> will both >> have to mail apple accessibility about this. >> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next thing >> i want to >> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and it is >> taking up >> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the past >> bu tI >> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to >> analog. There >> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or otherwise) >> and I >> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you use? I >> guess as >> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it indeed can >> find the >> channels). >> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine off, >> just close >> the lid and thats it. >> Greetings, Anouk, >> - Original Message - >> From: "Tony Bernedal" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM >> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >> >> >>> >>> Hi Anouk. >>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >>> still >>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >>> the >>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >>> virtual >>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >>> problems with it is gone. >>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also >>> very >>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it >>> works >>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>> And I also like the speed, start
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, Oh, I forgot one thing. All programs will probably be written in Cocoa, eventually, as authors update their applications to facilitate the compatibility of Snowy. For me, Carbon Apps work fine, though some things look interesting. Some apps have extra tables and such now, but they still work well. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:14 AM, a radix wrote: > > Hello, well taking the plunge is fine, if there is software > available on the > other side to plunge into... I must say though that I am very happy > with > voicover and how it works, after a learning curve. Just a pity that > not all > programs for the mac are written in cocoa. I guess i will eventually > get a > usenet account, i just prefer other programs to search/find stuff > quickly > that I want. But in some ways usenet would be better for me because > it would > actually utilize the boatloads of speed that my broadband connection > offers. > About atlantis, I am pretty sure it does not work on snow leopard > and I also > think that the developer is no longer working on it. I tried to mail > a lot > of people about mudclients for the mac and the only one that > respodned was > the jamochamud person. I am not really familiar with how I can use > terminal, > i tried it in the past briefly but was very much confused because it > does > not really seem to be like either linux shell, run or a dos prompt > so I > stopped tyring it at that time hoping htat jamochamud would > eventually be > able to do the trick. > I hope that if i install the native hp driver for sl there will be > no need > for vuescan and I can just use either vuescan OR readiris. > It really sucks that changing memory uses up a new key, i dont think > this is > the case with hal because in the past i had 4gb ddr2 and i changed > it to 4 > gb ddr3, i think changing the graphics card does have this effect > though. > Another thing is, in the past i was a diehard braille user but now > that I > use sl I actually often use speech as well for surfing the web or > navitgating programs. > One last thing, 2 usb ports on my laptop is just too little, I > REALLY hope > that macs in the future will have at least 3 usb ports because I > think thats > a minimum required these days. > Greetings, Anouk, > > - Original Message - > From: "Nicolai Svendsen" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac > > >> >> Hi, >> >> Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, >> last I >> heard and extremely accessible. >> >> As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a >> new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much >> completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That >> is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the >> developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver >> support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. >> I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. >> >> As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends >> how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too >> high, >> otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test >> different >> setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as >> authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the >> ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer >> and >> require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> >> >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Anouk. >>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >>> still >>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >>> the >>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >>> virtual >>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >>> problems with it is gone. >>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also >>> very >>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hello, Nope, Window-Eyes isn't like that. Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, last I > heard and extremely accessible. > > As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a > new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much > completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That > is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the > developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver > support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. > I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. > > As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends > how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too high, > otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test different > setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as > authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the > ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer and > require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. > > Regards, > Nic > > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > >> Hi Anouk. >> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still >> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the >> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual >> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >> problems with it is gone. >> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >> have same issue with alva satelite. >> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very >> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works >> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep >> works well too. >> So I'm happy with my mac system. >> Good luck with your mac! >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a radix : >> >>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially >>> at school >>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below >>> why. In >>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>> especially after >>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on >>> my pc. >>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching >>> movies and >>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office >>> suite >>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ >>> office >>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage >>> band in >>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I >>> like the >>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its >>> sound >>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find >>> using >>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my >>> pc and it >>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I cannot >>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue >>> reading, >>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if >>> I want >>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need >>> to read >>> long documents. >>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten >>> mail >>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under >>> windows to >>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning >>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers >>> for sl >>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good and >>> easy as >>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because of >>> that (I >>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>> eventually be >>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage pro). >>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does work on >>> the mac >>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not re
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, Oh, I guess it wouldn't be. Window Eyes is more like a serial you enter I think. That's nice. Well, JAWS doesn't like it for obvious reason, but it can be annoying. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Portia wrote: > > Hello, > > Nope, Window-Eyes isn't like that. > > Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, >> last I >> heard and extremely accessible. >> >> As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a >> new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much >> completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That >> is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the >> developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver >> support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. >> I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. >> >> As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends >> how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too >> high, >> otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test >> different >> setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as >> authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the >> ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer >> and >> require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> >> >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Anouk. >>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >>> still >>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >>> the >>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >>> virtual >>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >>> problems with it is gone. >>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also >>> very >>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it >>> works >>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the >>> sleep >>> works well too. >>> So I'm happy with my mac system. >>> Good luck with your mac! >>> Regards Tony >>> >>> 2009/10/21, a radix : >>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially at school although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below why. In general my experiences with the mac have been very positive especially after installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on my pc. And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching movies and listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office suite because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ office suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage band in the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I like the built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its sound output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find using the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my pc and it goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I cannot endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue reading, eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if I want to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need to read long documents. At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten mail working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under windows to scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers for sl >
Re: my 2 months with a mac
When you install Window-eyes, you don't enter a serial number or license key. You just install and configure it to your liking. Now, on the other hand, if you purchase the lease to own version, then there is an activation key you enter. Btw, you renew your lease to own copy every 30 days. So every thirty days, you purchase a new activation key and then go into the Window-eyes license manager and enter the new key. The license manager is in the Window-Eyes folder, which is placed in the all programs submenu when you install Window-eyes. Just wanted to make sure I explained things right, Smile. Hope this helps, and makes sense. Have a totally awesome evening. Smiles, Portia. Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Oh, I guess it wouldn't be. Window Eyes is more like a serial you > enter I think. That's nice. Well, JAWS doesn't like it for obvious > reason, but it can be annoying. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Portia wrote: > > >> Hello, >> >> Nope, Window-Eyes isn't like that. >> >> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, >>> last I >>> heard and extremely accessible. >>> >>> As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a >>> new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much >>> completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That >>> is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the >>> developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver >>> support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. >>> I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. >>> >>> As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends >>> how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too >>> high, >>> otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test >>> different >>> setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as >>> authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the >>> ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer >>> and >>> require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> >>> >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Anouk. I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my problems with it is gone. I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I have same issue with alva satelite. I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all with screenreader, only on mac, great!). And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep works well too. So I'm happy with my mac system. Good luck with your mac! Regards Tony 2009/10/21, a radix : > Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially > at school > although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below > why. In > general my experiences with the mac have been very positive > especially after > installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on > my pc. > And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching > movies and > listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office > suite > because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ > office > suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage > band in > the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I > like the > built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening t
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, Ah, definitely. I might simply switch to Window-Eyes at some point then, just to aoid the JAWS issue. Thanks a lot. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Portia wrote: > > When you install Window-eyes, you don't enter a serial number or > license > key. You just install and configure it to your liking. Now, on the > other > hand, if you purchase the lease to own version, then there is an > activation key you enter. Btw, you renew your lease to own copy > every 30 > days. So every thirty days, you purchase a new activation key and then > go into the Window-eyes license manager and enter the new key. The > license manager is in the Window-Eyes folder, which is placed in the > all > programs submenu when you install Window-eyes. Just wanted to make > sure > I explained things right, Smile. > > Hope this helps, and makes sense. Have a totally awesome evening. > > Smiles, > > > > Portia. > > Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Oh, I guess it wouldn't be. Window Eyes is more like a serial you >> enter I think. That's nice. Well, JAWS doesn't like it for obvious >> reason, but it can be annoying. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Portia wrote: >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Nope, Window-Eyes isn't like that. >>> >>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi, Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, last I heard and extremely accessible. As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too high, otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test different setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer and require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > Hi Anouk. > I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I > still > use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning > and > ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do > the > jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no > longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual > machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the > virtual > machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a > ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the > software to > setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. > I'm > very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my > problems with it is gone. > I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be > solved. I > have same issue with alva satelite. > I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason > doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also > very > tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it > works > great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all > with screenreader, only on mac, great!). > And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works > take > forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the > sleep > works well too. > So I'm happy with my mac system. > Good luck with your mac! > Regards Tony > > 2009/10/21, a radix : > > >> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially >> at school >> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below >> why. In >> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >> especially after >> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well >> as on >> my pc. >>
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi Nic, You're quite welcome. If you have anymore questions let me know. I'm using the lease to own version right now, too. Take care. Rock on, Portia. Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Ah, definitely. I might simply switch to Window-Eyes at some point > then, just to aoid the JAWS issue. > Thanks a lot. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Portia wrote: > > >> When you install Window-eyes, you don't enter a serial number or >> license >> key. You just install and configure it to your liking. Now, on the >> other >> hand, if you purchase the lease to own version, then there is an >> activation key you enter. Btw, you renew your lease to own copy >> every 30 >> days. So every thirty days, you purchase a new activation key and then >> go into the Window-eyes license manager and enter the new key. The >> license manager is in the Window-Eyes folder, which is placed in the >> all >> programs submenu when you install Window-eyes. Just wanted to make >> sure >> I explained things right, Smile. >> >> Hope this helps, and makes sense. Have a totally awesome evening. >> >> Smiles, >> >> >> >> Portia. >> >> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Oh, I guess it wouldn't be. Window Eyes is more like a serial you >>> enter I think. That's nice. Well, JAWS doesn't like it for obvious >>> reason, but it can be annoying. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Portia wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello, Nope, Window-Eyes isn't like that. Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, > last I > heard and extremely accessible. > > As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge > to a > new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much > completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. > That > is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the > developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver > support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. > I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. > > As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all > depends > how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too > high, > otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test > different > setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as > authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing > the > ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer > and > require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. > > Regards, > Nic > > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > > > >> Hi Anouk. >> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >> still >> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning >> and >> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >> the >> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >> virtual >> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the >> software to >> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. >> I'm >> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >> problems with it is gone. >> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be >> solved. I >> have same issue with alva satelite. >> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also >> very >> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it >> works >> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works >> take >> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the >> sleep >> works well too. >> So I'm happy with my mac system. >> Good luck with your mac! >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Echolink does not work for mac, you have to have echomac, smile. On 2009-10-21, at 12:28 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, last I > heard and extremely accessible. > > As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a > new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much > completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That > is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the > developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver > support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. > I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. > > As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends > how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too high, > otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test different > setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as > authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the > ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer and > require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. > > Regards, > Nic > > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > >> >> Hi Anouk. >> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still >> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >> the >> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual >> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >> problems with it is gone. >> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >> have same issue with alva satelite. >> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very >> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works >> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the >> sleep >> works well too. >> So I'm happy with my mac system. >> Good luck with your mac! >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a radix : >>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially >>> at school >>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below >>> why. In >>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>> especially after >>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on >>> my pc. >>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching >>> movies and >>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office >>> suite >>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ >>> office >>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage >>> band in >>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I >>> like the >>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its >>> sound >>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find >>> using >>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my >>> pc and it >>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I >>> cannot >>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue >>> reading, >>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if >>> I want >>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need >>> to read >>> long documents. >>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten >>> mail >>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under >>> windows to >>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning >>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers >>> for sl >>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good and >>> easy as >>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because of >>> that (I >>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>> eventually be >>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage pro). >>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does work on >>> the mac >>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not registered i
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Oops, sent that before I was done. If anyone knows how to use echomac really well all help would be appreciate. On 2009-10-21, at 12:28 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, last I > heard and extremely accessible. > > As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a > new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much > completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That > is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the > developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver > support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. > I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. > > As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends > how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too high, > otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test different > setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as > authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the > ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer and > require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. > > Regards, > Nic > > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > >> >> Hi Anouk. >> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still >> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >> the >> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual >> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >> problems with it is gone. >> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >> have same issue with alva satelite. >> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very >> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works >> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the >> sleep >> works well too. >> So I'm happy with my mac system. >> Good luck with your mac! >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a radix : >>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially >>> at school >>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below >>> why. In >>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>> especially after >>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on >>> my pc. >>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching >>> movies and >>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office >>> suite >>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ >>> office >>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage >>> band in >>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I >>> like the >>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its >>> sound >>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find >>> using >>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my >>> pc and it >>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I >>> cannot >>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue >>> reading, >>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if >>> I want >>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need >>> to read >>> long documents. >>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten >>> mail >>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under >>> windows to >>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning >>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers >>> for sl >>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good and >>> easy as >>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because of >>> that (I >>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>> eventually be >>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage pro). >>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does work on >>> the mac >>> with transmit wh
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, Well, I did say on the Mac-side referring to it as EchoMac. Someone found it already, apparently. :) Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:00 PM, May McDonald wrote: > > Echolink does not work for mac, you have to have echomac, smile. > On 2009-10-21, at 12:28 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, >> last I >> heard and extremely accessible. >> >> As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a >> new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much >> completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. That >> is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the >> developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver >> support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. >> I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. >> >> As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends >> how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too >> high, >> otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test >> different >> setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as >> authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing the >> ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer >> and >> require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> >> >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Anouk. >>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >>> still >>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and >>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do >>> the >>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no >>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual >>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >>> virtual >>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a >>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to >>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm >>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my >>> problems with it is gone. >>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I >>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason >>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also >>> very >>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it >>> works >>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all >>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take >>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the >>> sleep >>> works well too. >>> So I'm happy with my mac system. >>> Good luck with your mac! >>> Regards Tony >>> >>> 2009/10/21, a radix : Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially at school although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below why. In general my experiences with the mac have been very positive especially after installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as on my pc. And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching movies and listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples office suite because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text editors/ office suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage band in the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I like the built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its sound output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still find using the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my pc and it goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I cannot endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to continue reading, eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal keyboard if I want to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you need to read long documents. At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have gotten mail working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 under windows to scan my books for school, while I know that there are some scanning solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp drivers for sl have been relea
anti-virus software
Hi list, I am thinking of switching our current linux file server to a mac with SL server installed. Slowly doing the switch to our computers as we go, but i've figured that with licences and all, it might be better to trickle the studio's computers over to the web dept while we upgrade our computers to mac dual boots. One big problem we have though is the ineffaceable presence of viruses, due to misinformed use of flash drives and a lack of protection or protocols on that front. So our current file server is a huge problem within our digital assets network. I wanted to know what is the most current and all around anti-virus/ spyware/malware software out there for the mac client and server? I'm trying singlehandedly to isolate the studio from the est as some other depts just don't have the same valuable data that we have, which we often use, and i really need some sort of easy monitoring, troubleshooting and administering platform, Reading the specs, it seems sl server fits the description. ANyone got some consumate opinions about mac networks and virus? Best Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anti-virus software
There is one called Protect Mac. at www.protectmac.com This one is apparently completely accessible with Voic Over. There is also an open source AV called ClamAV I think, but I don't know how good this is. I'm sure you already know this, but remember that an AV can only protect you if it has the viruses in its databases in the first place. But despite using AV, the best secrity and AV defense on any platform is the end user. Just my opinion. Hope this helps Take care James - Original Message - From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: anti-virus software > > Hi list, > > I am thinking of switching our current linux file server to a mac with > SL server installed. Slowly doing the switch to our computers as we > go, but i've figured that with licences and all, it might be better to > trickle the studio's computers over to the web dept while we upgrade > our computers to mac dual boots. > > One big problem we have though is the ineffaceable presence of > viruses, due to misinformed use of flash drives and a lack of > protection or protocols on that front. So our current file server is a > huge problem within our digital assets network. > > I wanted to know what is the most current and all around anti-virus/ > spyware/malware software out there for the mac client and server? > > I'm trying singlehandedly to isolate the studio from the est as some > other depts just don't have the same valuable data that we have, which > we often use, and i really need some sort of easy monitoring, > troubleshooting and administering platform, Reading the specs, it > seems sl server fits the description. > > ANyone got some consumate opinions about mac networks and virus? > > Best > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > Yuma Antoine Decaux > jamy...@gmail.com > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anti-virus software
I totally agree with you. We have restrictions on net access for our production terminals which is an obvious thing, but there is always the problem of flash jaunts with stuff that shouldn't be there at the first place. I never so far encountered a problem with my mac, so that's why i was considering perhaps getting the server, using the current layout with more protocol hammering at meetings. But well, in the ned its the user who decides things on a daily basis, and it lands us with pig snorts all across the network. Thanks for the links guys, and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anti-virus software
ClamAv sucks. I'v tried it when they had it for Windows, but it didn't work. It was saying that files that had viruses didn't have any. James & Nash wrote: > There is one called Protect Mac. at www.protectmac.com > > This one is apparently completely accessible with Voic Over. There is also > an open source AV called ClamAV I think, but I don't know how good this is. > > I'm sure you already know this, but remember that an AV can only protect you > if it has the viruses in its databases in the first place. But despite using > AV, the best secrity and AV defense on any platform is the end user. Just my > opinion. > > Hope this helps > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:06 AM > Subject: anti-virus software > > > >> Hi list, >> >> I am thinking of switching our current linux file server to a mac with >> SL server installed. Slowly doing the switch to our computers as we >> go, but i've figured that with licences and all, it might be better to >> trickle the studio's computers over to the web dept while we upgrade >> our computers to mac dual boots. >> >> One big problem we have though is the ineffaceable presence of >> viruses, due to misinformed use of flash drives and a lack of >> protection or protocols on that front. So our current file server is a >> huge problem within our digital assets network. >> >> I wanted to know what is the most current and all around anti-virus/ >> spyware/malware software out there for the mac client and server? >> >> I'm trying singlehandedly to isolate the studio from the est as some >> other depts just don't have the same valuable data that we have, which >> we often use, and i really need some sort of easy monitoring, >> troubleshooting and administering platform, Reading the specs, it >> seems sl server fits the description. >> >> ANyone got some consumate opinions about mac networks and virus? >> >> Best >> >> >> Yuma Decaux >> >> Light has no value without darkness >> Skype: shainobi1 >> twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 >> Tel: +85513623378 >> Yuma Antoine Decaux >> jamy...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] AccessWorld Reviews the iPhone
AccessWorld Reviews the iPhone The American Foundation of the Blind (AFB) recently offered a You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/10/21/accessworld-reviews-the-iphone/ The Mac-cessibility Network "...it's all within our reach..." http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi all, I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same time almost, I'm going on three months now. I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier to use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I use the ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days, that sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets relegated to after-hours. I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've had so many experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item that I know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the PC. I find that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, and sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't find what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't like the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning and one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that will do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple issue, but I do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good solid scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the Mac as a PC replacement. Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac and a PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to just go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to JAWS 11 and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my PC for work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90% of what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built in, I like the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working with Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be far superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to for the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my experience with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I compare my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much more fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things like check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint, and so on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me, the iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a computer, it cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems to lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. Best, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi again folks, > > Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba > http://rogueamoeba.com > works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects scroll > area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works > ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about. > > I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. If you > can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). > > As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally love > using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much faster. > > Also, which braille display are you using? > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > >> >> Hi again. >> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found >> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ >> I'll try it when I'm back home from work. >> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on >> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it >> doesn't work as I want at the moment. >> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see how >> it >> works with swedish language and so on. >> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the moment I >> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it >> doesn't >> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under the >> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff if I >> want to. >> Regards Tony >> >> 2009/10/21, a radix : >>> >>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) Funny >>> we >>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you >>> broadcast on >>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont >>> either. I was >>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just thinking >>> to ask my >>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has >>> anyone got >>> experience with installing windows vi
listen again wiedget 3.5
Hi all, on the listen again widget why can one not bring up a list of links for the shows on a station it says zero items for me? Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anti-virus software
Hello! I must agree with James on all accounts... ProtectMac is the best and most accessible antivirus program I have ever used. Their support people are terrific and the program just works without any prompting from me. When it is working, a window appears but does not prevent you from continuing to work in other applications, unless a problem is detected. And (if I remember correctly) it checks for problems that can affect both Mac and PC. There is a free 30 day trial of the full featured version. Try it... I think you will like it. Hope this helps... Lou. On Oct 21, 3:06 am, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi list, > > I am thinking of switching our current linux file server to a mac with  > SL server installed. Slowly doing the switch to our computers as we  > go, but i've figured that with licences and all, it might be better to  > trickle the studio's computers over to the web dept while we upgrade  > our computers to mac dual boots. > > One big problem we have though is the ineffaceable presence of  > viruses, due to misinformed use of flash drives and a lack of  > protection or protocols on that front. So our current file server is a  > huge problem within our digital assets network. > > I wanted to know what is the most current and all around anti-virus/ > spyware/malware software out there for the mac client and server? > > I'm trying singlehandedly to isolate the studio from the est as some  > other depts just don't have the same valuable data that we have, which  > we often use, and i really need some sort of easy monitoring,  > troubleshooting and administering platform, Reading the specs, it  > seems sl server fits the description. > > ANyone got some consumate opinions about mac networks and virus? > > Best > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > twitter:www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > Yuma Antoine Decaux > jamy...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password at login. I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, and I did. "The name or password you entered is incorrect." I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on his birthday. I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. Yes, I am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I do run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes find it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has to be a solution out there that does exactly the same. As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more smooth and responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search feature in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web rotor makes it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I do use Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to admit it. But if a MUD client was accessible to VoiceOver, I would not touch it again. I've found my experience with Mac has not only been productive, but fun and enjoyable where as with Windows, I wanted to throw the machine through the window half the time I was using it due to freezes, driver errors and so-forth. Well, I think I'm done now. I want an iPhone, now that you mention it, but at the same time you don't always need to have the latest and greatest. And I need to realize that. :P. Yes, I loved the iPhone and I'm used to the gestures since I use my trackpad quite a lot, but at the same time, I need a phone for text messaging and phone calls. That is about it. It'll probably be faster to accomplish those tasks with the iPhone, I have no doubt about it. Maybe one day I'll even get one. But when I find a really good reason except for all the apps you can seemingly install with no issues, perfectly usable, then I won't buy one. Besides, who wants to pay $99.95 for an iPhone plan in Denmark? Not me. Have a great afternoon, folks. I at least know those living in the Eastern timezone are approaching lunch time. :) Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same time > almost, I'm
Re: my 2 months with a mac
I'm sure somebody is going to pick up on the fact I said Leopard, not Snow Lepard or Snowy. Of course, I did mean Snow Leopard. That's what happens when you edit, delete and so-forth. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Definitely quite an interesting story. > > I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went > to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it > out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an > institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it > was quite literally a pile of crap. > > I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done > for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally > decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely > frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been > my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how > many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes > you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously > installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the > registry. The headache. > > So I decided to take the plunge. > > I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went > back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd > mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to > try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It > definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only > had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it > off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the > box. I was happy. So very happy. > > I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I > almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get > out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. > > Oh no! > > What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I > didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. > So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the > installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the > startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. > Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever > reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. > Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required > to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been > set to require a password at login. > > I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them > the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they > promptly complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to > enter, and I did. > > "The name or password you entered is incorrect." > > I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying > of all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was > installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on > his birthday. > > I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. Yes, > I am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I > do run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes > find it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and > recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has to > be a solution out there that does exactly the same. > > As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more smooth > and responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search > feature in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web > rotor makes it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I > do use Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to > admit it. But if a MUD client was accessible to VoiceOver, I would > not touch it again. I've found my experience with Mac has not only > been productive, but fun and enjoyable where as with Windows, I > wanted to throw the machine through the window half the time I was > using it due to freezes, driver errors and so-forth. > > Well, I think I'm done now. I want an iPhone, now that you mention > it, but at the same time you don't always need to have the latest > and greatest. And I need to realize that. :P. Yes, I loved the > iPhone and I'm used to the gestures since I use my trackpad quite a > lot, but at the same time, I need a phone for text messaging and > phone calls. That is about it. It'll probably be faster to > accomplish those tasks with the iPhone, I have no doubt about it. > Maybe one day I'll even get one. But when I find a really good > reason except for all the apps you can seemingly inst
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your needs. You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a veil that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very difficult to locate. I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful little toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* Cheers, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Definitely quite an interesting story. > > I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to > an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. > I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute > for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite > literally a pile of crap. > > I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done > for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally > decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely > frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been > my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many > things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had > to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed > applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The > headache. > > So I decided to take the plunge. > > I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back > to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly > be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it > out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely > was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom > floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, > wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So > very happy. > > I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost > rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my > shiny Macbook and hook it up. > > Oh no! > > What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I > didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So > i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation > DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It > displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided > that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the > installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! > Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to > proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password > at login. > > I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the > C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly > complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, and > I did. > > "The name or password you entered is incorrect." > > I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of > all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was > installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on his > birthday. > > I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. Yes, I > am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I do > run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes find > it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and > recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has to be > a solution out there that does exactly the same. > > As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more smooth and > responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search feature > in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web rotor makes > it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I do use > Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to admit it. > But if
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't had my mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the mac. In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder it a little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't used by me all the time anymore, smile. I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used all the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software for windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden behind mac. I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and figure out how sl and vo work, lol. On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you > had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your > needs. > > You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, > fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same > conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently > job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I > am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it > read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I > wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I > couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted > with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and > found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue > what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel > like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage > in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a veil > that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links > of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very > difficult to locate. > > I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful little > toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* > Cheers, > Donna > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Definitely quite an interesting story. >> >> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went >> to >> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >> out. >> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute >> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite >> literally a pile of crap. >> >> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done >> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally >> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely >> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been >> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many >> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had >> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed >> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The >> headache. >> >> So I decided to take the plunge. >> >> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back >> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >> mostly >> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it >> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely >> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom >> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, >> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. >> So >> very happy. >> >> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost >> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my >> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >> >> Oh no! >> >> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I >> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. >> So >> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the >> installation >> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It >> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided >> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the >> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! >> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to >> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a >> password >> at login. >> >> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them >> the >> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly >> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, >> and >> I did. >> >> "The name or password you entered is incorrect." >> >> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of >> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was >>
new patent
Hi list, In the tradition of the onion, i would like to patent the following: THE mac OS VIX jungle larus The most lethargic OS of all times. No, just wanted to say that each day i spend with snow leopard, i am happier to have made the switch :) best Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hello Donna, There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu when reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and type "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you know some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those containing the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the right field. Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you should forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by looking at the screen! I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: NeoOffice problems when opening files
Jean-Christophe Thank you very much for this response to my question. I know it was sent a while back, but I've been so busy working on a theatre piece attempting to meet a deadline which I just met this week that I've not had the chance to view the site and study as I wanted until now. Again, I truly am grateful! Israel Antonio Sexy Isra On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:59 PM, JC Helary wrote: > > On 2 oct. 2009, at 00:51, Israel wrote: >> When I worked in windows, I was most comfortable typing and saving >> files in Word Perfect. More recently I used MS Word and saved my >> files as RTF to share with friends, but when switching to Mac, I >> moved >> all my Word Perfect files to the new Mac. I was told I could open, >> edit, print, and so forth these WP files with NeoOffice. > > From what I read here, NeoOffice does not offer support for VO. > You need OpenOffice.org, which is equivalent software-wise (it is the > same code base with a few things added to NeoOffice, like "Services" > access). > > The download link is here: > > http://www.openoffice.org/ > > > > > Jean-Christophe Helary > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi Anne, What you wrote about the mac has helped me as well. I actually plan to get a mac soon, and am very excited. Portia. Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Donna, > > There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. > > First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at > headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu when > reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and type > "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- > Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. > > You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you know > some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the > number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those containing > the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the > right field. > > Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. > For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, > DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the > text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the > end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. > > You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from > header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. > > The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of > tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you should > forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once > you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but > at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! > > I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions > that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years > (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I > have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very > quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by looking > at the screen! > > I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi list, I just wanted to agree with Anne. Web rotor is the thing I use most and love it! I made the switch to Mac in June of this year and found that while I run into some problems which are annoying and some times frustrating, VO and safari have been easier for me than the years of window screen readers. A major problem was on certain newspaper or news sites, pressing comman+ VO+ h would not take me to the next heading. Instead I'd get a message, "safari is busy" which would last some times as long as two minutes. I installed snow leopard ten days ago and now I don't have that issue at all. I have other minor annoying ones, but not that. I started using dos in 1993 and was introduced to windows in 1996. I toyed with it but much prefered dos until I was forced to make the full time switch to windows in 2000. I made the cold turkey switch to Mac this year and just recently read that a major obstacles for switchers from windows to Mac is the tab key usage. Yet, all those years of using windows, I actually never used the tab key to move around a site. I guess I never even realized I could have until read NFB's article review on VO. BTW, thank you to NFB. Their review and response to the firestorm post VO review was one of the final straws which helped me decide Mac was the way to go!! Israel Antonio Sexy Isra On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Donna, > > There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. > > First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at > headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu when > reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and type > "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- > Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. > > You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you know > some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the > number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those containing > the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the > right field. > > Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. > For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, > DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the > text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the > end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. > > You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from > header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. > > The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of > tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you should > forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once > you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but > at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! > > I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions > that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years > (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I > have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very > quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by looking > at the screen! > > I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, I switched to the Mac in June. It's been an enjoyable experience. However, I still use Windows with Boot Camp for scanning and a few other things. The web browsing is fantastic on the Mac. I make heavy use of the QuickNav feature. Now I just need to get rid of this Dell and get a Macbook pro and I'll be set. > Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac > From: sexyi...@sbcglobal.net > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:09:33 -0500 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > Hi list, > > I just wanted to agree with Anne. Web rotor is the thing I use most > and love it! I made the switch to Mac in June of this year and found > that while I run into some problems which are annoying and some times > frustrating, VO and safari have been easier for me than the years of > window screen readers. A major problem was on certain newspaper or > news sites, pressing comman+ VO+ h would not take me to the next > heading. Instead I'd get a message, "safari is busy" which would > last some times as long as two minutes. I installed snow leopard ten > days ago and now I don't have that issue at all. I have other minor > annoying ones, but not that. > > I started using dos in 1993 and was introduced to windows in 1996. I > toyed with it but much prefered dos until I was forced to make the > full time switch to windows in 2000. I made the cold turkey switch to > Mac this year and just recently read that a major obstacles for > switchers from windows to Mac is the tab key usage. Yet, all those > years of using windows, I actually never used the tab key to move > around a site. I guess I never even realized I could have until read > NFB's article review on VO. BTW, thank you to NFB. Their review and > response to the firestorm post VO review was one of the final straws > which helped me decide Mac was the way to go!! > > Israel Antonio > Sexy Isra > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > > > > Hello Donna, > > > > There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. > > > > First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at > > headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu when > > reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and type > > "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- > > Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. > > > > You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you know > > some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the > > number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those containing > > the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the > > right field. > > > > Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. > > For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, > > DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the > > text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the > > end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. > > > > You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from > > header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. > > > > The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of > > tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you should > > forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once > > you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but > > at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! > > > > I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions > > that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years > > (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I > > have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very > > quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by looking > > at the screen! > > > > I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi Anne, Thanks for these tips. I do use the web rotor and the item chooser, and I do find that they often help. I have also set a keypad commander shortcut to switch between dom and groups mode--thanks, Mike Arrigo, I stole that idea from your podcast. All these things do help, bu I still find browsing faster in windows, especially if I'm looking for one specific thing, and that thing happens to be text rather than a link. I'm not giving up yet, though. :) Like I said, because of my current work demands, I'll be running both OSes for a while anyway, so I'll just keep plugging away at the Mac and see how things evolve. Take care, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Donna, > > There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. > > First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at > headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu when > reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and type > "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- > Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. > > You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you know > some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the > number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those containing > the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the > right field. > > Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. > For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, > DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the > text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the > end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. > > You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from > header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. > > The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of > tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you should > forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once > you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but > at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! > > I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions > that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years > (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I > have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very > quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by looking > at the screen! > > I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi Donna, Just a little reminder; in a situation like the one you describe, using the find feature in VoiceOver (VO-F), the Item Chooser (VO-I) or Web rotor (VO-U) will most likely help you find what you are looking for This way, you do not need to hunt for the text by interactng or reading through groups of text. I suppose you already know this, so just a quick reminder from me... ;-) Have a wonderful night! John André On 21. okt. 2009, at 17.41, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you > had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your > needs. > > You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, > fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same > conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently > job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I > am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it > read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I > wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I > couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted > with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and > found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue > what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel > like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage > in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a veil > that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links > of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very > difficult to locate. > > I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful little > toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* > Cheers, > Donna > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Definitely quite an interesting story. >> >> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went >> to >> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >> out. >> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute >> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite >> literally a pile of crap. >> >> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done >> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally >> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely >> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been >> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many >> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had >> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed >> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The >> headache. >> >> So I decided to take the plunge. >> >> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back >> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >> mostly >> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it >> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely >> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom >> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, >> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. >> So >> very happy. >> >> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost >> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my >> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >> >> Oh no! >> >> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I >> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. >> So >> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the >> installation >> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It >> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided >> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the >> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! >> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to >> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a >> password >> at login. >> >> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them >> the >> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly >> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, >> and >> I did. >> >> "The name or password you entered is incorrect." >> >> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of >> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was >> installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on his >> birthday. >> >> I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. Yes, I >> am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I do >> run Windo
Re: anti-virus software
I don't have an answer about a antyvirus solution, but have you considdered shoving all the studio pc's onto there own vlan for isolation? On 21/10/2009, BlindMacMan wrote: > > Hello! > > I must agree with James on all accounts... ProtectMac is the best and > most accessible antivirus program I have ever used. Their support > people are terrific and the program just works without any prompting > from me. When it is working, a window appears but does not prevent you > from continuing to work in other applications, unless a problem is > detected. And (if I remember correctly) it checks for problems that > can affect both Mac and PC. There is a free 30 day trial of the full > featured version. > > Try it... I think you will like it. > > Hope this helps... > > Lou. > > > > On Oct 21, 3:06Â am, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> I am thinking of switching our current linux file server to a mac with >> SL server installed. Slowly doing the switch to our computers as we >> go, but i've figured that with licences and all, it might be better to >> trickle the studio's computers over to the web dept while we upgrade >> our computers to mac dual boots. >> >> One big problem we have though is the ineffaceable presence of >> viruses, due to misinformed use of flash drives and a lack of >> protection or protocols on that front. So our current file server is a >> huge problem within our digital assets network. >> >> I wanted to know what is the most current and all around anti-virus/ >> spyware/malware software out there for the mac client and server? >> >> I'm trying singlehandedly to isolate the studio from the est as some >> other depts just don't have the same valuable data that we have, which >> we often use, and i really need some sort of easy monitoring, >> troubleshooting and administering platform, Reading the specs, it >> seems sl server fits the description. >> >> ANyone got some consumate opinions about mac networks and virus? >> >> Best >> >> Yuma Decaux >> >> Light has no value without darkness >> Skype: shainobi1 >> twitter:www.twitter.com/triple7 >> Tel: +85513623378 >> Yuma Antoine Decaux >> jamy...@gmail.com > > > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hello. Whenever you want to find some text on a web page, you can press control+option+f to open the Voiceover find dialog. Then type what you want to find and press enter. On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Anne, > > Thanks for these tips. I do use the web rotor and the item chooser, > and I do find that they often help. I have also set a keypad commander > shortcut to switch between dom and groups mode--thanks, Mike Arrigo, I > stole that idea from your podcast. All these things do help, bu I > still find browsing faster in windows, especially if I'm looking for > one specific thing, and that thing happens to be text rather than a > link. I'm not giving up yet, though. :) Like I said, because of my > current work demands, I'll be running both OSes for a while anyway, so > I'll just keep plugging away at the Mac and see how things evolve. > Take care, > Donna > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> >> Hello Donna, >> >> There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. >> >> First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at >> headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu >> when >> reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and >> type >> "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- >> Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. >> >> You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you >> know >> some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the >> number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those >> containing >> the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the >> right field. >> >> Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. >> For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, >> DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the >> text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the >> end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. >> >> You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from >> header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. >> >> The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of >> tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you >> should >> forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once >> you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but >> at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! >> >> I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions >> that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years >> (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I >> have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very >> quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by >> looking >> at the screen! >> >> I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Just a question, what happens if it's a site you've never visited before. Presumably you could search for a keyword? Thanks take care James - Original Message - From: "Ryan Mann" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:11 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac > > Hello. Whenever you want to find some text on a web page, you can > press control+option+f to open the Voiceover find dialog. Then type > what you want to find and press enter. > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi Anne, >> >> Thanks for these tips. I do use the web rotor and the item chooser, >> and I do find that they often help. I have also set a keypad commander >> shortcut to switch between dom and groups mode--thanks, Mike Arrigo, I >> stole that idea from your podcast. All these things do help, bu I >> still find browsing faster in windows, especially if I'm looking for >> one specific thing, and that thing happens to be text rather than a >> link. I'm not giving up yet, though. :) Like I said, because of my >> current work demands, I'll be running both OSes for a while anyway, so >> I'll just keep plugging away at the Mac and see how things evolve. >> Take care, >> Donna >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Donna, >>> >>> There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. >>> >>> First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at >>> headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu >>> when >>> reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and >>> type >>> "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- >>> Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. >>> >>> You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you >>> know >>> some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the >>> number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those >>> containing >>> the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the >>> right field. >>> >>> Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. >>> For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, >>> DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the >>> text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the >>> end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. >>> >>> You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from >>> header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. >>> >>> The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of >>> tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you >>> should >>> forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once >>> you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but >>> at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! >>> >>> I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions >>> that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years >>> (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I >>> have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very >>> quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by >>> looking >>> at the screen! >>> >>> I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
The only thing I'll use windows for is soulseek which is a filesharing app I use to find stuff, there's no good alternative for mac and the ones that are available either aren't accessible or haven't been updated. Unison works great for usenet although I couldn't figure out the program interface so have been using sites like binsearch. Can't really comment on the ocr programs but I like vlc for listening to books and things, itunes is good too. Mike On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Oh, I guess it wouldn't be. Window Eyes is more like a serial you > enter I think. That's nice. Well, JAWS doesn't like it for obvious > reason, but it can be annoying. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Portia wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> Nope, Window-Eyes isn't like that. >> >> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Well, I believe EchoLink does exist on the Mac-side as EchoMac, >>> last I >>> heard and extremely accessible. >>> >>> As for using Windows, it's all probably about taking the plunge to a >>> new operating system and letting go of Windows. I've pretty much >>> completed that step, but there is only one minor thing. Mudding. >>> That >>> is the only thing I actually do on Windows now. I did hear the >>> developer of the MUD-client Atlantis might be adding VoiceOver >>> support, hopefully. Otherwise I'll just use Terminal. >>> I use VUScan and ReadIris for my scanning needs. >>> >>> As for virtual machines, mine runs quite efficiently. It all depends >>> how you have set the ram allocation. Make sure not to set it too >>> high, >>> otherwise memory swapping will occur. A good idea is to test >>> different >>> setups before installing any screen reader licenses such as >>> authorization keys for JAWS and so-forth. Otherwise when changing >>> the >>> ram for your Windows machine, JAWS will think it is a new computer >>> and >>> require you to reactivate. Window-Eyes is probably the same way. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> >>> >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>> >>> Hi Anouk. I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I still use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the scanning and ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to do the jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from a no longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a virtual machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the virtual machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich is a ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the software to setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows programs. I'm very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow leopard my problems with it is gone. I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be solved. I have same issue with alva satelite. I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd reason doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is also very tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it works great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at all with screenreader, only on mac, great!). And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works take forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, the sleep works well too. So I'm happy with my mac system. Good luck with your mac! Regards Tony 2009/10/21, a radix : > Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now especially > at school > although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain below > why. In > general my experiences with the mac have been very positive > especially after > installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as well as > on > my pc. > And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead watching > movies and > listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples > office > suite > because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text > editors/ > office > suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use garage > band in > the future if I can get that working with my yamaha keyboard. I > like the > built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through its > sound > output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still > find > using > the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using my
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Yeah, but sometimes that works better than others. Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > Hello. Whenever you want to find some text on a web page, you can > press control+option+f to open the Voiceover find dialog. Then type > what you want to find and press enter. > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi Anne, >> >> Thanks for these tips. I do use the web rotor and the item chooser, >> and I do find that they often help. I have also set a keypad >> commander >> shortcut to switch between dom and groups mode--thanks, Mike >> Arrigo, I >> stole that idea from your podcast. All these things do help, bu I >> still find browsing faster in windows, especially if I'm looking for >> one specific thing, and that thing happens to be text rather than a >> link. I'm not giving up yet, though. :) Like I said, because of my >> current work demands, I'll be running both OSes for a while anyway, >> so >> I'll just keep plugging away at the Mac and see how things evolve. >> Take care, >> Donna >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Donna, >>> >>> There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac. >>> >>> First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at >>> headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu >>> when >>> reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and >>> type >>> "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO- >>> Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article. >>> >>> You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you >>> know >>> some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the >>> number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those >>> containing >>> the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the >>> right field. >>> >>> Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode. >>> For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles, >>> DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the >>> text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the >>> end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense. >>> >>> You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from >>> header to header, visited link to visited link, etc. >>> >>> The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of >>> tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you >>> should >>> forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once >>> you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but >>> at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere! >>> >>> I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering >>> questions >>> that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years >>> (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I >>> have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it >>> very >>> quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by >>> looking >>> at the screen! >>> >>> I hope this brief explanation is of use to you. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, I have had my wonderful Imac for longer than two months, in fact it's a bit over a year now and i tell ya folks, i won't ever go back to using Windows. I have a virtual machine with Windows xp in it, but i use it only for when i want to play audio games and do some team talk and for the few occations when web sites aren't supported because of Flash. I'm doing all of my tasks like scanning, reading emails and such on the Mac now and i like the fact that finally, i have a computer that works with me, not against me. /Krister 21 okt 2009 kl. 17.41 skrev Donna Goodin: > > Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you > had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your > needs. > > You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, > fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same > conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently > job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I > am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it > read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I > wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I > couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted > with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and > found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue > what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel > like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage > in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a veil > that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links > of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very > difficult to locate. > > I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful little > toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* > Cheers, > Donna > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Definitely quite an interesting story. >> >> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went >> to >> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >> out. >> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute >> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite >> literally a pile of crap. >> >> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done >> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally >> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely >> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been >> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many >> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had >> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed >> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The >> headache. >> >> So I decided to take the plunge. >> >> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back >> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >> mostly >> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it >> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely >> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom >> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, >> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. >> So >> very happy. >> >> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost >> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my >> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >> >> Oh no! >> >> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I >> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. >> So >> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the >> installation >> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It >> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided >> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the >> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! >> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to >> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a >> password >> at login. >> >> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them >> the >> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly >> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, >> and >> I did. >> >> "The name or password you entered is incorrect." >> >> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of >> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was >> installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on his >> birthday. >> >> I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on t
not receiving emails in Mail
Hi list, Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when using Mail? 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a new email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound but it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and the 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there either. 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB email, etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive an email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem. Any thoughts? Israel Antonio Sexy Isra --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] Proloquo2Go Provides Alternative Communication for Persons with Speech Disabilities
Proloquo2Go Provides Alternative Communication for Persons with Speech Disabilities Proloquo2Go is an iPhone/iPod touch application designed to transform an iPhone or iPod touch into an augmentative and alternative communication device for persons with speech disabilities. The software has been developed by Assistiveware.com, makers of the popular InfoVox iVox products. Despite its $189.9 price tag, it is a quite affordable alternative to hardware solutions which [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/10/21/proloquo2go-provides-alternative-communication-for-persons-with-speech-disabilities/ The Mac-cessibility Network "...it's all within our reach..." http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: not receiving emails in Mail
Hi Israel, I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now At&t just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more intermittent. There tech support at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have all junk filters turned off. Any thoughts? Talk soon Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote: > > Hi list, > > Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when using > Mail? > > 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a new > email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. > This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound but > it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they > went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple > Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same > mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. > That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and the > 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those > mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there > either. > > 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part > of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB > notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB email, > etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive an > email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site > that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. > > I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I > installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last > night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I > do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging > on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent > ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB > issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails > and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem. > Any thoughts? > > Israel Antonio > Sexy Isra > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: not receiving emails in Mail
I'm using Cox Cable and when I first signed up for this list I was having the same problem. I discovered that everything from this list was going to the spam folder and the only way I could look at the messages was to go to the Cox website. Once I turned the spam filter off I started getting the messages to my inbox. On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: > > Hi Israel, > I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or > so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since > Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now At&t > just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more > intermittent. > There tech support at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have all > junk filters turned off. > > Any thoughts? > Talk soon > Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 > > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote: > >> >> Hi list, >> >> Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when >> using >> Mail? >> >> 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a >> new >> email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. >> This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound >> but >> it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they >> went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple >> Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same >> mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. >> That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and >> the >> 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those >> mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there >> either. >> >> 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part >> of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB >> notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB >> email, >> etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive >> an >> email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site >> that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. >> >> I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I >> installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last >> night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I >> do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging >> on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent >> ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB >> issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails >> and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem. >> Any thoughts? >> >> Israel Antonio >> Sexy Isra >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
I do know about them, John, but reminders are always good. :) Cheers, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:46 PM, John André Netland wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > Just a little reminder; in a situation like the one you describe, > using the find feature in VoiceOver (VO-F), the Item Chooser (VO-I) or > Web rotor (VO-U) will most likely help you find what you are looking > for This way, you do not need to hunt for the text by interactng > or reading through groups of text. I suppose you already know this, so > just a quick reminder from me... ;-) > > Have a wonderful night! > > John André > > > On 21. okt. 2009, at 17.41, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you >> had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your >> needs. >> >> You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, >> fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same >> conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently >> job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I >> am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it >> read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I >> wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I >> couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted >> with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and >> found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue >> what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel >> like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage >> in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a >> veil >> that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links >> of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very >> difficult to locate. >> >> I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful >> little >> toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Definitely quite an interesting story. >>> >>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went >>> to >>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >>> out. >>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute >>> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite >>> literally a pile of crap. >>> >>> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done >>> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally >>> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely >>> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been >>> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how >>> many >>> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had >>> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed >>> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The >>> headache. >>> >>> So I decided to take the plunge. >>> >>> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went >>> back >>> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >>> mostly >>> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it >>> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely >>> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a >>> showroom >>> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off >>> thoroughly, >>> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. >>> So >>> very happy. >>> >>> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I >>> almost >>> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my >>> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >>> >>> Oh no! >>> >>> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I >>> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. >>> So >>> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the >>> installation >>> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It >>> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided >>> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the >>> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang >>> it! >>> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to >>> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a >>> password >>> at login. >>> >>> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them >>> the >>> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they >>> promptly >>> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, >>> and >>> I did. >>> >>> "The name or password you entered is incorrect." >>> >>> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying >>> of >>> all was that finally, t
[Mac-cessibility News] The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #6 - Coo Coo for CocoaTouch!
The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #6 - Coo Coo for CocoaTouch! In the latest installment of the Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast, Coo Coo for CocoaTouch!, our knights of the round table discuss the recent updates to Mac OS X, the iPhone OS, and iTunes, as well as the iPod touch, the AFB iPhone review, the NFB's second look at VoiceOver, Josh's cursor tracking experiment on the [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/10/21/the-mac-cessibility-round-table-podcast-6-coo-coo-for-cocoatouch/ The Mac-cessibility Network "...it's all within our reach..." http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
I hear ya. I looked hard at the mac after my first 2 months, and have sort of had the opposite experience. I rarely scan and since work does not allow any but their pcs and proprietary stuff on it, this is not an issue. My needs are some networking related stuff, reading and writing, although I have found a few good pdfs in the mainstream for the type of material I like... I no longer use my windows stuff because what needs I had for it were so limited as to not disturb me when it went away. I did have issues with the web at first this being the hardest thing to grasp, but don't personally notice any difference between my work pc's access vs home's. It is different, but I managed to get the needed speed. On 2009-10-21, at 10:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same time > almost, I'm going on three months now. > > I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier to > use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I use the > ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't > currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days, that > sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets > relegated to after-hours. > > I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've had so many > experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item that I > know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the PC. I find > that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, and > sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't find > what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. > > I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't like > the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning and > one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that will > do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple issue, but I > do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good solid > scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the Mac as > a PC replacement. > > Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac and a > PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to just > go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one > computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to JAWS 11 > and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my PC for > work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90% of > what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built in, I like > the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it > doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working with > Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be far > superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to for > the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my experience > with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I compare > my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much more > fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things like > check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of > practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint, and so > on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me, the > iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a computer, it > cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems to > lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. > Best, > Donna > On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi again folks, >> >> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba >> http://rogueamoeba.com >> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects scroll >> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works >> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about. >> >> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. If >> you >> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). >> >> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally love >> using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much faster. >> >> Also, which braille display are you using? >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi again. >>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found >>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ >>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work. >>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on >>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it >>> doesn't work as I want at the moment. >>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see how >>>
Re: not receiving emails in Mail
I use ATT too. Didn't even think of them as the source of this. The last time I tried getting help from their support, I had to continuously explain that I couldn't see the screen nor use the physical mouse yet the person kept insisting I tell him what images are on screen or to drag an item or two with my mouse. So I try to avoid their help as much as I can. Israel Antonio Sexy Isra On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: > > Hi Israel, > I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or > so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since > Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now At&t > just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more > intermittent. > There tech support at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have all > junk filters turned off. > > Any thoughts? > Talk soon > Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 > > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote: > >> >> Hi list, >> >> Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when >> using >> Mail? >> >> 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a >> new >> email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. >> This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound >> but >> it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they >> went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple >> Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same >> mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. >> That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and >> the >> 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those >> mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there >> either. >> >> 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part >> of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB >> notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB >> email, >> etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive >> an >> email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site >> that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. >> >> I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I >> installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last >> night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I >> do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging >> on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent >> ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB >> issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails >> and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem. >> Any thoughts? >> >> Israel Antonio >> Sexy Isra >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: not receiving emails in Mail
So David, just so I am understanding you correctly, are you saying to turn off spam filter by logging on to my internet service provider's site and making the changes there? I just went into Mail preferences and check my junk mail setting. Junk mail filter on is checked. I am thinking of unchecking it and see if that helps any. Israel Antonio Sexy Isra On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:41 PM, David McLean wrote: > > I'm using Cox Cable and when I first signed up for this list I was > having the same problem. I discovered that everything from this list > was going to the spam folder and the only way I could look at the > messages was to go to the Cox website. > Once I turned the spam filter off I started getting the messages to > my inbox. > On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: > >> >> Hi Israel, >> I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or >> so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since >> Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now >> At&t >> just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more >> intermittent. >> There tech support at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have >> all >> junk filters turned off. >> >> Any thoughts? >> Talk soon >> Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 >> >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when >>> using >>> Mail? >>> >>> 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a >>> new >>> email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. >>> This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound >>> but >>> it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they >>> went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple >>> Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the >>> same >>> mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. >>> That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and >>> the >>> 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those >>> mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there >>> either. >>> >>> 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as >>> part >>> of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB >>> notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB >>> email, >>> etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive >>> an >>> email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the >>> site >>> that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. >>> >>> I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I >>> installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last >>> night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, >>> then I >>> do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging >>> on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent >>> ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB >>> issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails >>> and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail >>> problem. >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> Israel Antonio >>> Sexy Isra >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- SPAM -- Re: not receiving emails in Mail
Yes assuming there is one. There might be a spam folder on the website that has all the messages in it and by turning off the spam option or changing the filter setting it will send them to your inbox. For Cox cable there are three options that can be set: The first which is the default is to collect all the messages that their spam program considers spam in a folder up on the web, the second is to automatically delete them, and the third is to send them on to your inbox but put the word spam before the subject of the message. The last option is what I chose and now I receive all the messages even though Cox considers everything from Google Groups to be spam for some reason. On Oct 21, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Israel wrote: > > So David, just so I am understanding you correctly, are you saying to > turn off spam filter by logging on to my internet service provider's > site and making the changes there? > > I just went into Mail preferences and check my junk mail setting. > Junk mail filter on is checked. I am thinking of unchecking it and > see if that helps any. > > Israel Antonio > Sexy Isra > > > > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:41 PM, David McLean wrote: > >> >> I'm using Cox Cable and when I first signed up for this list I was >> having the same problem. I discovered that everything from this list >> was going to the spam folder and the only way I could look at the >> messages was to go to the Cox website. >> Once I turned the spam filter off I started getting the messages >> to >> my inbox. >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Israel, >>> I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days >>> or >>> so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. >>> Since >>> Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now >>> At&t >>> just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more >>> intermittent. >>> There tech support at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have >>> all >>> junk filters turned off. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> Talk soon >>> Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 >>> >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote: >>> Hi list, Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when using Mail? 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a new email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound but it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and the 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there either. 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB email, etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive an email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem. Any thoughts? Israel Antonio Sexy Isra > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
well said all, there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is the fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. however the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not support OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore its virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has any one written code for a quick check of the time? Have good evening, Pete On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, May McDonald wrote: > > Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't had my > mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. > > I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the mac. > In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder it a > little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't > used by me all the time anymore, smile. > > I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used all > the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software for > windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden behind > mac. > > I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and figure > out how sly and vo work, lol. > On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you >> had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your >> needs. >> >> You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, >> fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same >> conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently >> job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I >> am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it >> read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I >> wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I >> couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted >> with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and >> found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue >> what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel >> like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage >> in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a >> veil >> that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links >> of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very >> difficult to locate. >> >> I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful >> little >> toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Definitely quite an interesting story. >>> >>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went >>> to >>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >>> out. >>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute >>> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite >>> literally a pile of crap. >>> >>> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done >>> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally >>> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely >>> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been >>> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how >>> many >>> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had >>> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed >>> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The >>> headache. >>> >>> So I decided to take the plunge. >>> >>> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went >>> back >>> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >>> mostly >>> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it >>> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely >>> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a >>> showroom >>> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off >>> thoroughly, >>> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. >>> So >>> very happy. >>> >>> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I >>> almost >>> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my >>> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >>> >>> Oh no! >>> >>> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I >>> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. >>> So >>> i went
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hello. If you're running Snow Leopard and you have Voiceover set to allow it to be controled by Apple Script, you can hit option+t to check the time. On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, peter apgar wrote: > > well said all, > > there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is the > fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. however > the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not support > OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore its > virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted > previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more > interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same > actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that > running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when > begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has any > one written code for a quick check of the time? > > Have good evening, > > Pete > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, May McDonald wrote: > >> >> Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't had >> my >> mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. >> >> I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the mac. >> In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder it a >> little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't >> used by me all the time anymore, smile. >> >> I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used >> all >> the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software for >> windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden behind >> mac. >> >> I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and figure >> out how sly and vo work, lol. >> On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you >>> had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your >>> needs. >>> >>> You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, >>> fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same >>> conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently >>> job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I >>> am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it >>> read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I >>> wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I >>> couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted >>> with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and >>> found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no >>> clue >>> what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel >>> like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a >>> webpage >>> in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a >>> veil >>> that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links >>> of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very >>> difficult to locate. >>> >>> I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful >>> little >>> toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, an
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: not receiving emails in Mail
Hi, Turning off the filter might help. Have an awesome evening. Smiles, Portia. Israel wrote: > So David, just so I am understanding you correctly, are you saying to > turn off spam filter by logging on to my internet service provider's > site and making the changes there? > > I just went into Mail preferences and check my junk mail setting. > Junk mail filter on is checked. I am thinking of unchecking it and > see if that helps any. > > Israel Antonio > Sexy Isra > > > > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:41 PM, David McLean wrote: > > >> I'm using Cox Cable and when I first signed up for this list I was >> having the same problem. I discovered that everything from this list >> was going to the spam folder and the only way I could look at the >> messages was to go to the Cox website. >> Once I turned the spam filter off I started getting the messages to >> my inbox. >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Israel, >>> I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or >>> so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since >>> Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now >>> At&t >>> just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more >>> intermittent. >>> There tech support at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have >>> all >>> junk filters turned off. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> Talk soon >>> Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 >>> >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote: >>> >>> Hi list, Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when using Mail? 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a new email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there. This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound but it isn't in my in box. I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they went there, but no they don't. When I bought my Mac, my local Apple Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same mailboxes in which they were in on my PC. In, Sent, and deleted. That means I have six mailboxes. 3 for my Mac mail activities and the 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC. So, I even check those mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there either. 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB email, etc. I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive an email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update. I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago. Yet, since last night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB. Yet, logging on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent ten email notifications. Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem. Any thoughts? Israel Antonio Sexy Isra >>> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hmm, that's really good to know. Is there a place where I can find other commands the apple script has? I guess I'll go check that option now. On 2009-10-21, at 7:27 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > Hello. If you're running Snow Leopard and you have Voiceover set to > allow it to be controled by Apple Script, you can hit option+t to > check the time. > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, peter apgar wrote: > >> >> well said all, >> >> there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is the >> fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. however >> the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not support >> OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore its >> virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted >> previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more >> interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same >> actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that >> running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when >> begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has any >> one written code for a quick check of the time? >> >> Have good evening, >> >> Pete >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, May McDonald wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't had >>> my >>> mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. >>> >>> I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the mac. >>> In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder it a >>> little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't >>> used by me all the time anymore, smile. >>> >>> I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used >>> all >>> the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software for >>> windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden >>> behind >>> mac. >>> >>> I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and figure >>> out how sly and vo work, lol. >>> On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your needs. You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a veil that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very difficult to locate. I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful little toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* Cheers, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Definitely quite an interesting story. > > I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I > went > to > an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it > out. > I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an > institute > for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was > quite > literally a pile of crap. > > I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have > done > for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally > decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely > frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always > been > my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how > many > things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you > had > to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously > installed > applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The > headache. > > So I decided to take the plunge. > > I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went > back > to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd > mostly > be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try >>
Re: my 2 months with a mac
I know what you mean, Kare. I think if someone were to ask me about a Mac, my first question would be "what do you want to do with it?" Sounds like in your position the Mac's a perfect fit. I'm envious! I'm looking at a possible career transition, and wouldn't mind at all if one outcome was that I had to spend less time on my pc. Take care, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:47 PM, kaare dehard wrote: > > I hear ya. I looked hard at the mac after my first 2 months, and have > sort of had the opposite experience. I rarely scan and since work does > not allow any but their pcs and proprietary stuff on it, this is not > an issue. My needs are some networking related stuff, reading and > writing, although I have found a few good pdfs in the mainstream for > the type of material I like... I no longer use my windows stuff > because what needs I had for it were so limited as to not disturb me > when it went away. I did have issues with the web at first this being > the hardest thing to grasp, but don't personally notice any difference > between my work pc's access vs home's. It is different, but I managed > to get the needed speed. > On 2009-10-21, at 10:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same time >> almost, I'm going on three months now. >> >> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier to >> use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I use the >> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't >> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days, >> that >> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets >> relegated to after-hours. >> >> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've had so many >> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item that I >> know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the PC. I >> find >> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, and >> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't >> find >> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. >> >> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't like >> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning and >> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that >> will >> do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple issue, >> but I >> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good solid >> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the Mac as >> a PC replacement. >> >> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac and a >> PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to just >> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one >> computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to JAWS 11 >> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my PC >> for >> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90% of >> what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built in, I like >> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it >> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working with >> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be far >> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to for >> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my experience >> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I compare >> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much more >> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things like >> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of >> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint, and >> so >> on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me, the >> iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a computer, it >> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems to >> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi again folks, >>> >>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba >>> http://rogueamoeba.com >>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects scroll >>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works >>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about. >>> >>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. If >>> you >>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). >>> >>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally love >>> using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much faster. >>> >>> Also, which braille display are you using? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messen
Re: my 2 months with a mac
You can see the commands that are set up by default by doing the following: 1. Open VoiceOver utility. 2. Interact with the Utility categories table and vo+downarrow to the commands category, then stop interacting. 3. Select the Keyboard tab. 4. Vo+rightarrow and you should hear a checkbox to enable keyboard commander. Check that box. 5. Vo+rightarrow again and you should hear "keyboard commander table." Interact with that table. After you interact with that table, you should be able to use the usual VoiceOver navigation commands to hear what commands are set. n Oct 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, May McDonald wrote: > > Hmm, that's really good to know. Is there a place where I can find > other commands the apple script has? I guess I'll go check that > option now. > On 2009-10-21, at 7:27 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >> >> Hello. If you're running Snow Leopard and you have Voiceover set to >> allow it to be controled by Apple Script, you can hit option+t to >> check the time. >> >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, peter apgar wrote: >> >>> >>> well said all, >>> >>> there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is the >>> fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. however >>> the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not support >>> OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore its >>> virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted >>> previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more >>> interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same >>> actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that >>> running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when >>> begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has any >>> one written code for a quick check of the time? >>> >>> Have good evening, >>> >>> Pete >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, May McDonald wrote: >>> Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't had my mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the mac. In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder it a little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't used by me all the time anymore, smile. I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used all the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software for windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden behind mac. I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and figure out how sly and vo work, lol. On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all > you > had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit > your > needs. > > You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, > fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same > conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am > currently > job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a > site I > am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, > it > read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I > wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I > couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted > with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and > found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no > clue > what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often > feel > like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a > webpage > in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a > veil > that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. > Links > of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very > difficult to locate. > > I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful > little > toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* > Cheers, > Donna > On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Definitely quite an interesting story. >> >> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I >> went >> to >> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >> out. >> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an >> institute >> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was >> quite >> literally a pile of crap. >> >> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have >> done >> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I >> finally >> decided
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Smile, thank you very much. On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > You can see the commands that are set up by default by doing the > following: > 1. Open VoiceOver utility. > 2. Interact with the Utility categories table and vo+downarrow to the > commands category, then stop interacting. > 3. Select the Keyboard tab. > 4. Vo+rightarrow and you should hear a checkbox to enable keyboard > commander. Check that box. > 5. Vo+rightarrow again and you should hear "keyboard commander > table." Interact with that table. After you interact with that > table, you should be able to use the usual VoiceOver navigation > commands to hear what commands are set. > n Oct 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, May McDonald wrote: > >> >> Hmm, that's really good to know. Is there a place where I can find >> other commands the apple script has? I guess I'll go check that >> option now. >> On 2009-10-21, at 7:27 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello. If you're running Snow Leopard and you have Voiceover set to >>> allow it to be controled by Apple Script, you can hit option+t to >>> check the time. >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, peter apgar wrote: >>> well said all, there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is the fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. however the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not support OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore its virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has any one written code for a quick check of the time? Have good evening, Pete On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, May McDonald wrote: > > Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't > had > my > mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. > > I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the > mac. > In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder > it a > little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't > used by me all the time anymore, smile. > > I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used > all > the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software > for > windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden > behind > mac. > > I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and > figure > out how sly and vo work, lol. > On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all >> you >> had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit >> your >> needs. >> >> You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, >> fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same >> conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am >> currently >> job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a >> site I >> am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, >> it >> read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I >> wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I >> couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I >> interacted >> with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, >> and >> found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no >> clue >> what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often >> feel >> like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a >> webpage >> in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a >> veil >> that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. >> Links >> of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often >> very >> difficult to locate. >> >> I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful >> little >> toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Definitely quite an interesting story. >>> >>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I >>> went >>> to >>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try >>> it >>> out. >>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an >>> institute >>> for the blind, but I act
Garage Band Mixing
I'm writing to find out if there is anybody who has ventured into GarageBand land with Voice Over. I have a question for you. I am trying to change the value of a tracks pan position, and can't seem to get anything to work. I tried interacting with it like I would with any other slider, but get no response, it just makes that noise that lets you know that you can't do anything. Its quite curious, as I am able to change the value for the volume which is in the same area. If anybody has any information with this rather specific request, I'd really really appreciate it! Justin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
Hi, I think one of the biggest issues that are represented here is work. Depending on what you're doing, the company you work for might require that you work with their systems, most likely Windows or Linux. I've encountered companies in my country that use Mac OS X, but not many, which definitely does get confusing. I would suppose that, if you work more than you have time to play with your Mac, the PC immediately takes priority for obvious reasons and it'll take you longer to get used to it. I study computer science, and on occasion I actually have to struggle with Windows commands. I find Windows so sluggish and unresponsive now compared to the Mac, and that's not an attempt to slam it, because I'm sure it has its advantages for some people, it's just not snappy and stable enough for what I need it to do.. Granted, I mostly do use my Mac for things such as browsing the web, editing, reading mail and so- forth, but what frustrated me with Windows was the crashes. That is one thing I don't miss. Otherwise, Windows is definitely a good system. For me, it just wasn't good enough, so to speak, and it frustrated the heck out of me sometimes. Sometimes I was happy with it, to be fair. But I also think one superiority the Mac has over the Windows operating system is the integrated screen access software. If you update your display drivers, you don't need to spend time reinstalling and installing applications to discover it didn't work, then install the latest version of an application such as JAWS to finally make it understand that you actually want Video Intercept installed for the thousandth time, then downgrade if you don't like JAWS 11. If you're me, you don't like JAWS 11, but that's another story entirely. But that's another thing that made me all too willing to switch, with no regrets. Yeah, I wish someone would put together a MUD client that actually had VoiceOver support, or at least utilize the text to speech features that use the built-in voices without VoiceOver. That'd at least be a start. Otherwise, I don't use Windows at all except to comply with those people who still send me executables on CDs. Or to play MUDs. You can do exactly the same things on the Mac as you can on Windows, the only problem every switcher probably has is the fact that they don't know which applications to look for to accomplish said task. I've had my Mac since August 1 as I said earlier, and I certainly don't know all the substitutes for Windows programs yet. That having been said, I only use Windows for the tasks written above. Thought I'd share my views once again, and I'll probably be writing more. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:44 AM, May McDonald wrote: > > Smile, thank you very much. > On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >> >> You can see the commands that are set up by default by doing the >> following: >> 1. Open VoiceOver utility. >> 2. Interact with the Utility categories table and vo+downarrow to >> the >> commands category, then stop interacting. >> 3. Select the Keyboard tab. >> 4. Vo+rightarrow and you should hear a checkbox to enable keyboard >> commander. Check that box. >> 5. Vo+rightarrow again and you should hear "keyboard commander >> table." Interact with that table. After you interact with that >> table, you should be able to use the usual VoiceOver navigation >> commands to hear what commands are set. >> n Oct 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, May McDonald wrote: >> >>> >>> Hmm, that's really good to know. Is there a place where I can find >>> other commands the apple script has? I guess I'll go check that >>> option now. >>> On 2009-10-21, at 7:27 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: >>> Hello. If you're running Snow Leopard and you have Voiceover set to allow it to be controled by Apple Script, you can hit option+t to check the time. On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, peter apgar wrote: > > well said all, > > there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is > the > fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. > however > the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not > support > OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore > its > virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted > previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more > interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same > actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that > running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when > begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has > any > one written code for a quick check of the time? > > Have good evening, > > Pete
