Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Grant
>> Thanks, I gave that a try and it did a bunch of stuff but when I try
>> to emerge Net-Braintree I get:
> that's weird. it did generate all of them fine here
> which version of g-cpan?

I've tried with g-cpan-0.16.2 and 0.16.4 with the same results:

>>> Verifying ebuild manifests
!!! A file is not listed in the Manifest:
'/usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.ebuild'
!!! A file is not listed in the Manifest:
'/usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-Atom/DateTime-Format-Atom-1.0.2.ebuild'

I've tried several times with some config variations but always with
the above error when trying to emerge.

>> I noticed that g-cpan put all of the ebuilds it generated in:
>> /var/lib/layman/moonrise/perl-gcpan
>> Is that the right place for them?
> the default is the last overlay in your config. i suggest looking at the
> docs and forcing it to your own overlay, and forcing category to
> dev-perl.

I've done that but with the above results:

GCPAN_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
GCPAN_CAT="dev-perl"

I've never had very good luck with g-cpan.  I thought there were a lot
of dev-perl ebuilds in portage for CPAN modules and that g-cpan was
for those that hadn't been added to portage yet?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Vítor Brandão
2012/5/24 Dan Douglas 

> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 06:33:53 AM Duncan wrote:
> > Dan Douglas posted on Thu, 24 May 2012 01:04:48 -0500 as excerpted:
> > > On Thursday, May 24, 2012 07:56:58 AM Michał Górny wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:14:53 -0500
> > >>
> > >> Dan Douglas  wrote:
> > >> > If not I will be leaving Gentoo for Funtoo in the near future,
> though
> > >> > there are disadvantages to doing this I don't look forward to
> dealing
> > >> > with.
> > >>
> > >> Most of us will probably be doing that :P.
> > >
> > > Eh sorry that wasn't meant to be antagonistic. I'll still have Gentoo
> > > boxen to deal with. I just need to be able to use git on the tree (even
> > > without the full history is perfectly fine) to ease the difficulty of
> > > local overlay management. Glad to hear that will be possible, or at
> > > least somewhat easier.
> >
> > FWIW, I as a user would sure like a git-based tree.  Doing git
> whatchanged
> > searches on individual files and being able to track my last checkout and
> > roll back to it, or to a point between it and current HEAD, are extremely
> > useful.  I haven't thought of it much until now, but I think maintaining
> > overlays as simple branches would be great, as well.
>
> I don't think doing a branch of the entire tree is a good idea (well
> maybe...). I was thinking more along the lines of subtree merges into a
> local
> overlay, or perhaps submodules. To do that currently (I think) would
> require
> taking the rsync tree and putting that into a repo, and trying to keep it
> synchronized. Plus in the process you lose all correspondance with upstream
> commits so that logs and diffs become meaningless.
> --
> Dan Douglas


git++

-- 
Vítor Brandão  (noisebleed)


Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 05:35, Alexey Shvetsov  wrote:
> Full clone will be about 1G or so but no more then 2. If we will drop
> changelog it will be much smaller
>

And if you use git commit signing instead of ebuild manifests,
intra-commit churn will almost be negligible. :D


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 08:32, Rich Freeman  wrote:
>
> Sure.  The slow commit rate encourages careful deliberation before
> hitting the enter key, which therefore improves quality.
>
> Then, if you do make a mistake the slow commit rate means that fixing
> that mistake can take a long time, which increases the amount of pain
> our end-users run into due to the mistake, which leads to lots of
> flame wars on -dev.  That means that the guy who made the mistake is
> subjected to more public ridicule, and is less likely to do it again,
> That improves quality too.
>
> Since cvs doesn't tie together tree-wide changes in a nice way or
> allow them to be transactionally completed, individual package
> maintainers don't need to be as concerned with the big picture view.
> Now as the maintainer of libfoo the fact that somebody changed my
> ebuild without making a corresponding change in some profile is
> completely hidden from me, and I can go to sleep peacefully without
> realizing that my users are all going to have horribly broken systems
> in the morning.  Blissful ignorance of end-user suffering improves
> developer morale, and helps get rid of pesky users at the same time.
>
> cvs also makes more more aware of what is going on around me.  Anytime
> I want to work on something in parallel with the main development
> branch I get to manually merge changes in, which keeps me aware of my
> place in the world.  That means that I'm less likely to build nice new
> features, which means fewer bugs, which improves quality, and may even
> drive away users as an added bonus!
>
> See, cvs is really the wave of the future!
>
> Rich
>




This CVS stuff sounds a bit too uppity and unstable to me, sounds like
we should go back to the tried and true code collaboration by
date-stamped tarballs of the tree which are centralised once a week to
a master tarball.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Alexey Shvetsov

Kent Fredric писал 2012-05-24 13:02:

On 24 May 2012 05:35, Alexey Shvetsov  wrote:
Full clone will be about 1G or so but no more then 2. If we will 
drop

changelog it will be much smaller



And if you use git commit signing instead of ebuild manifests,
intra-commit churn will almost be negligible. :D


Yep. Each signature to manifest adds ~512B of echanged data. And this 
will be added every commit. Also Manifest contain checksumms for all 
filesincluding ebuild, patches, metadata and so on. thin-manifests will 
contain only DIST data so they will be much smaller

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Gatchina, Russia

Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics
Gentoo Team Ru
Gentoo Linux Dev
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 09:48, Michael Weber  wrote:
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> On 05/23/2012 11:14 PM, Dan Douglas wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:47:04 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>> 2. rsync generation is NOT going away. Users will still be using
>>> it.
>
> First, I'd stick with the current rsync to spread the tree (mirror
> work and mirrors+regular rsync users shouldn't notice any backend
> switch at all).
>
>
>> Would users have a way of gaining read-only access? This would be
>> EXTREMELY helpful.
> Sure, this would be possible like any other git checkout
> (layman-git-overlays, github.com, etc.).
>
> Please compare (browsing source and access description)
> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/
> http://git-exp.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=exp/gentoo-x86.git
>
>
> - --
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I think there should most definitely be an official github mirror of
the main tree, just a "read-only" mirror from githubs perspective.

Just how to best do the mirroring is the question

a) Replicate to github when a user does 'push' with a server-side push hook?
  ( Downside: if github goes down, gentoo devs will see it when
they push, and pushing takes longer because the output from the
replicated push is delivered to the original dev )

b) Daemonized hook that monitors for changes in the master repo, and
replicates commits to github after each push

c) Tie it with the rsync tree building system so every time the tree
is built for rsync clients, the master is replicated to github.


Also, this should obviously be force-pushed, so any branch rebases on
the master repo are replicated to the github mirror properly.
-- 
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3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 19:01, Grant  wrote:
 Verifying ebuild manifests
> !!! A file is not listed in the Manifest:
> '/usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.ebuild'
> !!! A file is not listed in the Manifest:
> '/usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-Atom/DateTime-Format-Atom-1.0.2.ebuild'


Why this is occuring is strange.

For each module it complains is "not in the manifest",

cd $packagedir
repoman manifest

ie:

cd /usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339/
repoman manifest

This should

a ) Re-attempt downloading the source tar.gz from cpan if its not
already downloaded
b ) update the Manifest file for both the source tar.gz and the
problematic ebuild.

if something goes wrong while doing repoman manifest, then please
report that error.

( g-cpan should do this any-way, but seeing why repoman manifest
fails, if it fails, should help diagnose the issue )

-- 
Kent

perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 19:01, Grant  wrote:
> I've never had very good luck with g-cpan.  I thought there were a lot
> of dev-perl ebuilds in portage for CPAN modules and that g-cpan was
> for those that hadn't been added to portage yet?

Yes, to an extent. Also, if you haven't already, check out the
perl-experiemental overlay, which has a much, much larger collection
of Perl Module ebuilds.

Its not as well maintained as the main tree, but its not bad IMO*

you might get lucky and somebody might put it in the tree for you if
g-cpan doesn't want to work.

* biased, I do a large amount of that =p




-- 
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3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

http://kent-fredric.fox.geek.nz



[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: sys-cluster/lam-mpi

2012-05-24 Thread Kacper Kowalik
# Kacper Kowalik  (24 May 2012)
# Masked for removal in 30 days (#324415), Doesn't build with
# libtool-2.2 (#276194), bundles vulnerable copy of libtool (#297648),
# fails to install with new coreutils and automake-1.11 (#328549),
# last release 2007-02-14, doesn't provide MPI-2
# Superseeded by sys-cluster/{openmpi,mpich2}
sys-cluster/lam-mpi

Took long enough to kill that one...
Cheers,
Kacper



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[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Duncan
Dan Douglas posted on Thu, 24 May 2012 01:51:28 -0500 as excerpted:

> I don't think doing a branch of the entire tree is a good idea (well
> maybe...). I was thinking more along the lines of subtree merges into a
> local overlay, or perhaps submodules. To do that currently (I think)
> would require taking the rsync tree and putting that into a repo, and
> trying to keep it synchronized. Plus in the process you lose all
> correspondance with upstream commits so that logs and diffs become
> meaningless.

The thing about git branches is that they cost almost nothing.  If the 
whole main tree is a single git tree, and you already have that 
available, maintaining a branch consisting of what we now call an overlay 
is trivial, compared to simply maintaining the separate files, as is 
normally done now.

In that regard, git is nothing like for instance svn, where branches come 
at a much higher cost, as does merging between them.  (CVS... I don't 
actually know enough about to make an informed comparison.

It'd be a real shame not to expose the read-only git tree to the users 
who want it.  Git was /designed/ to be distributed in that manner.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: freebsd.eclass

2012-05-24 Thread Samuli Suominen

cvs remove -f eclass/ChangeLog? :-)

On 05/24/2012 02:19 PM, Alexis Ballier (aballier) wrote:

aballier12/05/24 11:19:53

   Modified: freebsd.eclass
   Log:
   Typo in comment

Revision  ChangesPath
1.23 eclass/freebsd.eclass

file : 
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/eclass/freebsd.eclass?rev=1.23&view=markup
plain: 
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/eclass/freebsd.eclass?rev=1.23&content-type=text/plain
diff : 
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/eclass/freebsd.eclass?r1=1.22&r2=1.23

Index: freebsd.eclass
===
RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/freebsd.eclass,v
retrieving revision 1.22
retrieving revision 1.23
diff -u -r1.22 -r1.23
--- freebsd.eclass  24 May 2012 11:18:46 -  1.22
+++ freebsd.eclass  24 May 2012 11:19:53 -  1.23
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
  # Copyright 1999-2011 Gentoo Foundation
  # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
-# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/freebsd.eclass,v 1.22 2012/05/24 
11:18:46 aballier Exp $
+# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/freebsd.eclass,v 1.23 2012/05/24 
11:19:53 aballier Exp $
  #
  # Diego Pettenò

@@ -111,7 +111,7 @@
[[ -z "${BMAKE}" ]]&&  BMAKE="$(freebsd_get_bmake)"

# Create objdir if MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is defined, so that we can make out 
of
-   # tree buils easily.
+   # tree builds easily.
if [[ -n "${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}" ]] ; then
mkmake obj || die
fi









Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> In that regard, git is nothing like for instance svn, where branches come
> at a much higher cost, as does merging between them.

That's wrong. SVN branches are just about as cheap as git branches,
although merges used to be much more painful. I'm not sure how good
merging in recent SVN is.

Let's please stay a little on-topic? The migration will get there much
faster if we don't succumb to feature creep.

Cheers,

Dirkjan



Re: [gentoo-dev] Do we need games group and all that game prefixes?

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 21 May 2012 04:26, Michał Górny  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In today's MythBusters™: do we actually need the whole ugly-awful
> mangling games.eclass does for games? By that I mean:
> - installing games in random pre-/postfixes rather than standard FHS-y
>  locations,
> - changing ownership and permissions of all the files.
>
> Do we really need all of this poor man's 'you shall not play our
> games'? I don't think we're using anything like /usr/office & office
> group, or /usr/random-programs-i-dont-like.
>
> Random obscurity only makes things harder. And proves no point unless
> we're going to ensure that all web browsers, ssh clients and other
> applications in danger of being used to play games. And while we're at
> it, why don't we just take the computer away and work on paper sheets?
> Oh wait, someone could play tic-tac-toe on it...
>
> So, my proposition is: finally drop that. Install games in regular
> prefixes, like all other apps. Don't pollute systems with unnecessary
> security perimeters which don't provide any real benefit.
>
> Any comments?
>

It wouldn't be so bad if it was done once, in one module, perhaps
"games-env" or similar and all games depended on that, instead of the
current scenario, where each and every games package does magic to set
up the right env bits. ( including creating profiles/groups if they
don't already exist, and stuffing paths in $PATH for all users even if
they're not in the games group, which causes bugs with git ... )

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408615




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3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: autotools.eclass no longer inherits eutils; check your ebuilds!

2012-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 May 2012 00:02:37 -0600
Ryan Hill  wrote:
> I don't see how removing an inherit is breaking an eclass' API.

The way eclasses are defined, the eclasses it inherits are itself part
of its API. You can think of it using the lousy OO analogy that gave
eclasses their name: the (public) superclasses of a class are part of
its API.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:05:50 +0200
Dirkjan Ochtman  wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In that regard, git is nothing like for instance svn, where
> > branches come at a much higher cost, as does merging between them.
> 
> That's wrong. SVN branches are just about as cheap as git branches,

[citation needed]

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 00:05, Dirkjan Ochtman  wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>> In that regard, git is nothing like for instance svn, where branches come
>> at a much higher cost, as does merging between them.
>
> That's wrong. SVN branches are just about as cheap as git branches,
> although merges used to be much more painful. I'm not sure how good
> merging in recent SVN is.

Cheapness ... maybe in binary disk utilization ( need an actual
comparison here I think ), but in cognitive overheads, I'd argue git's
branching system is definitely cheaper.  Going from Git back to SVN,
the mentality of "copy a directory and you have a new branch!!!" seems
a bit crazy.

And switching between branches in-place at a fixed disk location is
definitely cheaper ( mentally at least ) than SVN.

I hope I never have to use svn switch again :/
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Michael Weber
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Kent, this is of topic, stop it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:17:20 +1200
Kent Fredric  wrote:

> On 24 May 2012 09:48, Michael Weber  wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >
> > On 05/23/2012 11:14 PM, Dan Douglas wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:47:04 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> >>> 2. rsync generation is NOT going away. Users will still be using
> >>> it.
> >
> > First, I'd stick with the current rsync to spread the tree (mirror
> > work and mirrors+regular rsync users shouldn't notice any backend
> > switch at all).
> >
> >
> >> Would users have a way of gaining read-only access? This would be
> >> EXTREMELY helpful.
> > Sure, this would be possible like any other git checkout
> > (layman-git-overlays, github.com, etc.).
> >
> > Please compare (browsing source and access description)
> > http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/
> > http://git-exp.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=exp/gentoo-x86.git
> >
> >
> > - --
> > Gentoo Dev
> > http://xmw.de/
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> 
> 
> I think there should most definitely be an official github mirror of
> the main tree, just a "read-only" mirror from githubs perspective.
> 
> Just how to best do the mirroring is the question
> 
> a) Replicate to github when a user does 'push' with a server-side
> push hook? ( Downside: if github goes down, gentoo devs will see it
> when they push, and pushing takes longer because the output from the
> replicated push is delivered to the original dev )
> 
> b) Daemonized hook that monitors for changes in the master repo, and
> replicates commits to github after each push
> 
> c) Tie it with the rsync tree building system so every time the tree
> is built for rsync clients, the master is replicated to github.

d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200
Michał Górny  wrote:

> d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.

Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.

Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works
just fine for that. Maybe it's only github now but how many places is a
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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Grant
> Verifying ebuild manifests
>> !!! A file is not listed in the Manifest:
>> '/usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.ebuild'
>> !!! A file is not listed in the Manifest:
>> '/usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-Atom/DateTime-Format-Atom-1.0.2.ebuild'
>
>
> Why this is occuring is strange.
>
> For each module it complains is "not in the manifest",
>
> cd $packagedir
> repoman manifest
>
> ie:
>
> cd /usr/local/portage/dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339/
> repoman manifest
>
> This should
>
> a ) Re-attempt downloading the source tar.gz from cpan if its not
> already downloaded
> b ) update the Manifest file for both the source tar.gz and the
> problematic ebuild.
>
> if something goes wrong while doing repoman manifest, then please
> report that error.
>
> ( g-cpan should do this any-way, but seeing why repoman manifest
> fails, if it fails, should help diagnose the issue )

Here is the repoman failure and DateTime-Format-Atom does the same thing:

# repoman manifest
>>> Downloading 
>>> 'http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz'
--2012-05-24 08:01:06--
http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz
Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 156.56.247.195, 216.165.129.135,
64.50.233.100, ...
Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|156.56.247.195|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2012-05-24 08:01:06 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 
>>> 'http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz'
--2012-05-24 08:01:06--
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz
Resolving www.cpan.org... 207.171.7.177, 199.15.176.140
Connecting to www.cpan.org|207.171.7.177|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2012-05-24 08:01:06 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 
>>> 'http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz'
--2012-05-24 08:01:06--
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz
Resolving search.cpan.org... 199.15.176.161
Connecting to search.cpan.org|199.15.176.161|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: 
http://cpan.knowledgematters.net/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz
[following]
--2012-05-24 08:01:06--
http://cpan.knowledgematters.net/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz
Resolving cpan.knowledgematters.net... 67.205.61.104
Connecting to cpan.knowledgematters.net|67.205.61.104|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2012-05-24 08:01:06 ERROR 404: Not Found.

!!! Couldn't download 'DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz'. Aborting.
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'perl-module' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'eutils' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'multilib' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'toolchain-funcs' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'multilib' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'user' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * QA Notice: ECLASS 'base' inherited illegally in
dev-perl/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5 nofetch
 * The following are listed in SRC_URI for DateTime-Format-RFC3339:
 *mirror://cpan/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz
!!! Fetch failed for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz, can't update Manifest
Unable to generate manifest.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:
> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.
>
> Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works
> just fine for that. Maybe it's only github now but how many places is a
> developer supposed to monitor?

I'm actually a little torn on this one.  I'm fine with keeping the
"master" on Gentoo in the sense that this is where the rsync tree gets
generated.  However, gitbub has a lot of tools like pull requests that
could potentially improve workflow, especially for things like proxy
maintainers.  So, letting those teams work more outside of Gentoo and
just push their changes into Gentoo might make sense.

Perhaps github should be viewed as a widely-shared overlay that gets
automatic updates from the main tree in the master branch (or whatever
we call it).  You can work on a branch in github, get it where you
want it to be, and then push it to Gentoo pretty easily.  When I don't
have access to an upstream repository I often just push a copy to a
fork on Github just to make my own life easier.

Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:02:24 +0200
Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:

> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200
> Michał Górny  wrote:
> 
> > d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.
> 
> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.

Yes, that's the intent. I'm just saying that github seems to have
a hidden feature of mirroring external repos.

https://github.com/mirrors

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ultrabug
On 24/05/2012 03:19, Mark Wright wrote:
> Michael Weber  writes:
>> "Clean cut" turns of cvs access on a given and announced timestamp,
>> rsync-generation/updates is suspended (no input -> no changes), some
>> magic scripts prepare the git repo (according to [3], some hours
>> duration) and we all checkout the tree (might be some funny massive load).
> 
> +1 for clean cut to git
> 

clean cut +1



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200
> Michał Górny  wrote:
>
>> d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.
>
> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.

Definitely.  But having a mirror on github will increase forkability,
and will make it much faster for people to get started on
contribution.

When the user has their tree up to how they want it, they can either
send a pull request to another gentoo dev who also has a fork on
github, or send a link to the commit via some medium ( bug tracker ? )
, and some dev can just add that as a remote, and merge/cherry-pick
the commits they want..

In my books, github is mostly a marketing and ease of access platform
that streamlines the ability for people to get started contributing
and facilitate easy distribution of changes back to upstream.

But this is mostly side topic.

CLEAN CUT++

If there are problems with it, we can address those when we know what
they are, not when we're inventing problems that might not actually
exist due to conjecture.

I haven't encountered any "real" problems yet in size or performance
constraints with perl-experimental  . Sure, its not portage, its only
~800 packages vs portages 15000 , but it should be a somewhat
reasonable synthetic workload.

Side note: I assume, that there is, a way, if you *really* need it, to
copy all the new git commits back to the cvs tree if something
critically broken in git turns up so bad it has to be dropped. I think
it unlikely, but knowing there is a way to "go back" would give much
reassurance.

-- 
Kent

perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 03:05, Grant  wrote:
> DateTime-Format-RFC3339

Ah. The dreaded v-strings.

You'll note: http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/

That there is a "v" before the version specifier in the problem dist,
and the portage ebuild has not factored this into the equation, and is
looking for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz when it should be
looking for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-v1.0.5.tar.gz

If you can edit the ebuild source to solve this issue, and then re-run
repoman manifest, that might help. But at least we now know what is
happening wrong with g-cpan.

In editing, you'll be wanting to look for varibles ( mostly in SRC_URI
and I think S )  which use "${PV}" and change it to use "v${PV}"
instead.


-- 
Kent

perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
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On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.
>> 
>> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.
> 
> Definitely.  But having a mirror on github will increase
> forkability, and will make it much faster for people to get started
> on contribution.
> 
> When the user has their tree up to how they want it, they can
> either send a pull request to another gentoo dev who also has a
> fork on github, or send a link to the commit via some medium ( bug
> tracker ? ) , and some dev can just add that as a remote, and
> merge/cherry-pick the commits they want..
> 


...is this something we (as the developer base) WANT non-dev's to be
able to do??  I would expect we'd want the tree to still be treated as
read-only-not-modifyable by the rest of the gentoo/linux community,
otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our hands
(multiple forks of the main tree != a uniform main tree + overlays,
the way it does now)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 13:52:32 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius  wrote:
> > When the user has their tree up to how they want it, they can
> > either send a pull request to another gentoo dev who also has a
> > fork on github, or send a link to the commit via some medium ( bug
> > tracker ? ) , and some dev can just add that as a remote, and
> > merge/cherry-pick the commits they want..
> 
> ...is this something we (as the developer base) WANT non-dev's to be
> able to do??  I would expect we'd want the tree to still be treated as
> read-only-not-modifyable by the rest of the gentoo/linux community,
> otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our hands
> (multiple forks of the main tree != a uniform main tree + overlays,
> the way it does now)

That's only a problem if you don't merge things quickly. Encouraging
users to submit git format-patches or merge requests is a great way of
reducing developer workload.

- -- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
>
>
> ...is this something we (as the developer base) WANT non-dev's to be
> able to do??  I would expect we'd want the tree to still be treated as
> read-only-not-modifyable by the rest of the gentoo/linux community,
> otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our hands
> (multiple forks of the main tree != a uniform main tree + overlays,
> the way it does now)

Yes, we want them to.

There is still going to be a "master" authoritative tree, forks of
that tree will exist for the purpose of adding new ebuilds to the
master tree / bumping existing packages.

If your worry is "There are copies of gentoo /usr/portage out there
that aren't GIT HEAD" , then stop worrying, as thats already the case.

As soon as somebody modifies a file in their local /usr/portage, that
happens, and as soon as a users portage tree gets older than 1 hour,
that happens.

And if your worry is "But they could be replicating it in that form",
then don't worry, they could already be doing that,  nothing is
stopping people from re-providing  their full (tweaked) /usr/portage
via rsync to others.  In fact, if you're running in a network with a
network master, you're doing that to an extent.

But those sources are not official, and have no utility outside
development/private use scenarios, and thus, don't compete with
overlays directly.

Sure, you *could* make something like an overlay by forking gentoo
master and then maintaining that, but it would be impractical, and
you'd be better off using a plain overlay ( less noise ), or using
that fork for the purpose of getting things in master.

You /could/ do a long-lived public maintained fork, and then you'd be
Sabyon / Funtoo.

Doing this has its own difficulties, but I think long term, enabling
this is good:

Sabyon/Funtoo can fork gentoo on github, and then any improvements
made on their forks, gentoo can easily steal back, and its easier to
track the differences between them.  Win/Win in my books.

Summarised:

Yes, its a good idea.
No, we shouldn't try stopping them.
Actually, really can't stop them, its already happening, Git will just
make the workflow better on top of it.

-- 
Kent

perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 05/24/2012 06:52 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
>> On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.
>>> 
>>> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.
> 
>> Definitely.  But having a mirror on github will increase 
>> forkability, and will make it much faster for people to get
>> started on contribution.
> 
>> When the user has their tree up to how they want it, they can 
>> either send a pull request to another gentoo dev who also has a 
>> fork on github, or send a link to the commit via some medium (
>> bug tracker ? ) , and some dev can just add that as a remote,
>> and merge/cherry-pick the commits they want..
> 
> 
> 
> ...is this something we (as the developer base) WANT non-dev's to
> be able to do??  I would expect we'd want the tree to still be
> treated as read-only-not-modifyable by the rest of the gentoo/linux
> community, otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our
> hands (multiple forks of the main tree != a uniform main tree +
> overlays, the way it does now)
> 
> 
Why do you care? If someone uses a forked tree then he and his users
are on their own. However, I would like to have the ability to accept
pull requests from users and then push my local tree back to the
"official" one.

- -- 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Douglas
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 01:52:32 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> > On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:
> >> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny
> >>
> >>  wrote:
> >>> d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.
> >>
> >> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.
> >
> > Definitely.  But having a mirror on github will increase
> > forkability, and will make it much faster for people to get started
> > on contribution.
> >
> > When the user has their tree up to how they want it, they can
> > either send a pull request to another gentoo dev who also has a
> > fork on github, or send a link to the commit via some medium ( bug
> > tracker ? ) , and some dev can just add that as a remote, and
> > merge/cherry-pick the commits they want..
>
> ...is this something we (as the developer base) WANT non-dev's to be
> able to do??  I would expect we'd want the tree to still be treated as
> read-only-not-modifyable by the rest of the gentoo/linux community,

Of course it's read only - just like all other public repositories. You don't
want to accept improvments? I don't understand this.

> otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our hands
> (multiple forks of the main tree != a uniform main tree + overlays,
> the way it does now)

Forking happens when it's hard to contribute. You even want to make overlays
difficult? The only real mechanism Gentoo provides for user extensibility?
--
Dan Douglas

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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Grant
>> DateTime-Format-RFC3339
>
> Ah. The dreaded v-strings.
>
> You'll note: http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/
>
> That there is a "v" before the version specifier in the problem dist,
> and the portage ebuild has not factored this into the equation, and is
> looking for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz     when it should be
> looking for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-v1.0.5.tar.gz
>
> If you can edit the ebuild source to solve this issue, and then re-run
> repoman manifest, that might help. But at least we now know what is
> happening wrong with g-cpan.
>
> In editing, you'll be wanting to look for varibles ( mostly in SRC_URI
> and I think S )  which use "${PV}" and change it to use "v${PV}"
> instead.

These ebuilds don't seem to have any of those variables:

# Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# This ebuild generated by g-cpan 0.16.4

EAPI="2"

MODULE_AUTHOR="IKEGAMI"

inherit perl-module

DESCRIPTION="Parse and format RFC3339 datetime strings"

LICENSE="|| ( Artistic GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-3 )"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 amd64-fbsd arm hppa ia64 m68k mips ppc ppc64
s390 sh sparc sparc-fbsd x86 x86-fbsd   ppc-aix x86-freebsd
x64-freebsd sparc64-freebsd hppa-hpux ia64-hpux x86-interix
amd64-linux arm-linux ia64-linux ppc64-linux x86-linux ppc-macos
x86-macos x64-macos m68k-mint x86-netbsd ppc-openbsd x86-openbsd
x64-openbsd sparc-solaris sparc64-solaris x64-solaris x86-solaris
x86-winnt x86-cygwin"
IUSE=""

DEPEND="dev-perl/DateTime
dev-lang/perl"

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 07:22, Grant  wrote:
>
> EAPI="2"
>
> MODULE_AUTHOR="IKEGAMI"
>
> inherit perl-module
>
> DESCRIPTION="Parse and format RFC3339 datetime strings"
>
> LICENSE="|| ( Artistic GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-3 )"
> SLOT="0"

add this:

MODULE_VERSION="v${PV}"

just before the inherit line and that *should* do the trick.

-- 
Kent

perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread David Abbott
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Grant  wrote:
>>> DateTime-Format-RFC3339
>>
>> Ah. The dreaded v-strings.
>>
>> You'll note: http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/I/IK/IKEGAMI/
>>
>> That there is a "v" before the version specifier in the problem dist,
>> and the portage ebuild has not factored this into the equation, and is
>> looking for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-1.0.5.tar.gz     when it should be
>> looking for DateTime-Format-RFC3339-v1.0.5.tar.gz
>>
>> If you can edit the ebuild source to solve this issue, and then re-run
>> repoman manifest, that might help. But at least we now know what is
>> happening wrong with g-cpan.
>>
>> In editing, you'll be wanting to look for varibles ( mostly in SRC_URI
>> and I think S )  which use "${PV}" and change it to use "v${PV}"
>> instead.
>
> These ebuilds don't seem to have any of those variables:
>
> # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation
> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> # This ebuild generated by g-cpan 0.16.4
>
> EAPI="2"
>
> MODULE_AUTHOR="IKEGAMI"
>
> inherit perl-module
>
> DESCRIPTION="Parse and format RFC3339 datetime strings"
>
> LICENSE="|| ( Artistic GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-3 )"
> SLOT="0"
> KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 amd64-fbsd arm hppa ia64 m68k mips ppc ppc64
> s390 sh sparc sparc-fbsd x86 x86-fbsd   ppc-aix x86-freebsd
> x64-freebsd sparc64-freebsd hppa-hpux ia64-hpux x86-interix
> amd64-linux arm-linux ia64-linux ppc64-linux x86-linux ppc-macos
> x86-macos x64-macos m68k-mint x86-netbsd ppc-openbsd x86-openbsd
> x64-openbsd sparc-solaris sparc64-solaris x64-solaris x86-solaris
> x86-winnt x86-cygwin"
> IUSE=""
>
> DEPEND="dev-perl/DateTime
>    dev-lang/perl"
>
> - Grant
>

Hi Grant,
See "inherit perl-module" take a look at /usr/portage/eclass/perl-module.eclass

Regards,
David



[gentoo-dev] comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
i implemented eclass checking for some of the most common ones in the tree, 
but Zac didn't particularly care for the maintaining of lists of functions 
used by eclasses directly in repoman (due to the concern of them getting out 
of sync).

so the proposal is to utilize the existing eclass documentation markers to 
extract the complete list of functions provided by an eclass.  the upside is 
the metadata stays current, and we can scale better to all eclasses w/out 
requiring manual intervention.  the downside is that if people don't properly 
document their eclasses, repoman might throw false positives (warnings, not 
errors) about unused eclasses being inherited, and will miss throwing errors 
when functions are used but the respective eclasses aren't inherited.

however, i think that's a good hammer to throw at eclass maintainers to keep 
their documentation up-to-date and accurate.  any other opinions/feedback ?
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
Am Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2012, 18:33:41 schrieb Michał Górny:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:42:37 +0200
>
> Michael Weber  wrote:
> > *if you still read this* *wow*
> >
> > Please discuss my arguments and come to the conclusions to
> > RESO/WONT-FIX "testing git-cvsserver", make a "clean cut" and remove
> > this bug from the blockers of "[TRACKER] portage migration to git".
>
> Kill it! And while we're at it, kill ChangeLogs as well!
>
> /me hides...

with "git log some-cat/foo" we will have it automagically.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Douglas
> On 24/05/12 02:37 PM, Dan Douglas wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 24, 2012 01:52:32 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote:

> > 
> > Of course it's read only - just like all other public
> > repositories. You don't want to accept improvments? I don't
> > understand this.
> 
> I have no problem with accepting improvements, i'm just leary of
> semi-official copies of the tree that could be checked out and checked
> into by non-dev's (this said, I don't know that much about git but I
> assume that github users could commit to the github copy yes?  that
> being the way users would contribute?)

> >> otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our hands
> >> (multiple forks of the main tree != a uniform main tree +
> >> overlays, the way it does now)
> > 
> > Forking happens when it's hard to contribute. You even want to
> > make overlays difficult? The only real mechanism Gentoo provides
> > for user extensibility?
> 
> Nono, I was comparing the (from my perspective) mess of multiple forks
> of the main tree that hosting on github/other services could
> potentially enable, with a single uniform source of the main tree plus
> overlays for extended contribution (which is the system we have now).

Git is about decentralized version control. When you clone a repo, you have 
your own "fork". When everyone has their own branch, everyone is effectively 
equal.  So yes you can expect much much more forking. In Git land, forks are 
good. There's no way to enforce that people only pull from some "official" 
source.

It works out in practice so that 99% of the time people only care about a 
couple branches of one repository. Counterintuitively, this comes as a side-
effect of git actually doing distribution properly and making it easier for 
everybody's workflow. The overlay model by contrast is quite broken on its own 
and virtually forces creation of new overlays in order to make changes without 
the benifits of version control (with regards to the rsync tree at least). 

What Github does is facilitate making it easy to fork/branch and provide a 
central way to push changes back into a remote through pull requests. Pull 
requests and other web services around git hosting are pretty much the thing 
that makes github worth using. From the standpoint of accepting patches, the 
differenc e to you is rather than (or in addition to) accepting patches through 
bugzilla, you can choose to accept a push directly from someone else's copy of 
the repo. It isn't like a wiki - everybody commits to their own repositories 
and pushing to a remote is on a whitelist basis just like in centralized 
version control.

Anyway, others are better at "selling" Git than I and there are no shortage of 
resources out there describing distributed development models. I think this 
thread is supposed to be about the technical hurdles and it looks like whether 
or not it's feasible to support github. I can't really comment on the 
latter. Aside from whatever hoops the Gentoo devs have to jump through in 
trying to maintain multiple repos, it's hard to see the downsides to using 
github in and of itself.

Talk to the Gentoo Haskell guys, they've been using Github for some time. And 
if memory serves, KDE used to be on Github or Gitorious before moving to o.g.o

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Re: [gentoo-dev] comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 07:47, Mike Frysinger  wrote:
> -mike

Were it me, I'd have a tool that scrapes the eclass files's
documentation and emits a .json file which repoman can then optionally
use for consistency checks.

Mostly because I don't like the idea of repoman re-probing all the
eclasses every time you check an ebuild, and would like a way of
consistency checking an ebuild and seeing what metadata it produced
without needing to see it through the eyes of "repoman full" on a
consuming ebuild.

My 2c
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Re: [gentoo-dev] comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 24 May 2012 16:12:35 Kent Fredric wrote:
> Were it me, I'd have a tool that scrapes the eclass files's
> documentation and emits a .json file which repoman can then optionally
> use for consistency checks.

python provides its own pickling system.  no need to add yet another layer.

> Mostly because I don't like the idea of repoman re-probing all the
> eclasses every time you check an ebuild

caching of data most likely will be done (the decision will be data driven), 
but that's independent of the underlying behavioral question.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/24/2012 01:19 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday 24 May 2012 16:12:35 Kent Fredric wrote:
>> Were it me, I'd have a tool that scrapes the eclass files's
>> documentation and emits a .json file which repoman can then optionally
>> use for consistency checks.
> 
> python provides its own pickling system.  no need to add yet another layer.

Python's json module is similar to the pickly module, so you might just
use that instead. For example, I've converted /var/cache/edb/mtimedb
from pickle to json:

http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/portage.git;a=commit;h=848da97a64b2d3d13c3fbc794c57dae714009854

>> Mostly because I don't like the idea of repoman re-probing all the
>> eclasses every time you check an ebuild
> 
> caching of data most likely will be done (the decision will be data driven), 
> but that's independent of the underlying behavioral question.

I expect that reading and validating the cache is probably not going to
be much faster than just parsing the eclasses over again.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 08:28, Zac Medico  wrote:
>
> I expect that reading and validating the cache is probably not going to
> be much faster than just parsing the eclasses over again.
> --

Unless, you don't care if the cache is out-dated because the cache is
optional / the syntax checking is optional, and its only made
available when you generate it manually.

And considering how fast eclasses change, I doubt you'd need to
regenerate it often. Though how much time it takes to parse and stuff
really needs to be properly benched, its more that there is an
intermediate state that can be inspected by human eyes instead of a
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Re: [gentoo-dev] comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/24/2012 01:52 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 25 May 2012 08:28, Zac Medico  wrote:
>>
>> I expect that reading and validating the cache is probably not going to
>> be much faster than just parsing the eclasses over again.
>> --
> 
> Unless, you don't care if the cache is out-dated because the cache is
> optional / the syntax checking is optional, and its only made
> available when you generate it manually.

Putting the responsibility of cache validation on the user is not really
an option here, because it's just going to lead to bug reports of the
form "repoman is using stale eclass info in its checks".
-- 
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Zac



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
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On 05/24/2012 03:57 PM, Dan Douglas wrote:
> Git is about decentralized version control. When you clone a repo,
> you have your own "fork". When everyone has their own branch,
> everyone is effectively equal.  So yes you can expect much much
> more forking. In Git land, forks are good. There's no way to
> enforce that people only pull from some "official" source.
> 
> It works out in practice so that 99% of the time people only care
> about a couple branches of one repository. Counterintuitively, this
> comes as a side- effect of git actually doing distribution properly
> and making it easier for everybody's workflow. The overlay model by
> contrast is quite broken on its own and virtually forces creation
> of new overlays in order to make changes without the benifits of
> version control (with regards to the rsync tree at least).
> 
> What Github does is facilitate making it easy to fork/branch and
> provide a central way to push changes back into a remote through
> pull requests. Pull requests and other web services around git
> hosting are pretty much the thing that makes github worth using.
> From the standpoint of accepting patches, the differenc e to you is
> rather than (or in addition to) accepting patches through bugzilla,
> you can choose to accept a push directly from someone else's copy
> of the repo. It isn't like a wiki - everybody commits to their own
> repositories and pushing to a remote is on a whitelist basis just
> like in centralized version control.

This gets us into another topic altogether.

I do believe git pull-requests should go through Bugzilla. A
pull-request is the equivalent to bump requests, patch fixes, and all
sorts of stuff that we already handle through Bugzilla. Bugzilla also
contains our history.

If they happen to be needing to be pulled from github, that's fine.
Definitely convenient for the contributor.

We'll also need to clearly document how the pull-request is to be
generated. (I vote for requiring signed pull-requests. [1])

github should not be our central point of contact. We have b.g.o for
that. github should be on the fringes as a tool that we can use if we
want to.

[1]
http://git-blame.blogspot.com.ar/2012/01/using-signed-tag-in-pull-requests.html

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
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(and this will be requerd!)


Aaron W. Swenson писал 2012-05-25 00:00:

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On 05/24/2012 03:57 PM, Dan Douglas wrote:

Git is about decentralized version control. When you clone a repo,
you have your own "fork". When everyone has their own branch,
everyone is effectively equal.  So yes you can expect much much
more forking. In Git land, forks are good. There's no way to
enforce that people only pull from some "official" source.

It works out in practice so that 99% of the time people only care
about a couple branches of one repository. Counterintuitively, this
comes as a side- effect of git actually doing distribution properly
and making it easier for everybody's workflow. The overlay model by
contrast is quite broken on its own and virtually forces creation
of new overlays in order to make changes without the benifits of
version control (with regards to the rsync tree at least).

What Github does is facilitate making it easy to fork/branch and
provide a central way to push changes back into a remote through
pull requests. Pull requests and other web services around git
hosting are pretty much the thing that makes github worth using.
From the standpoint of accepting patches, the differenc e to you is
rather than (or in addition to) accepting patches through bugzilla,
you can choose to accept a push directly from someone else's copy
of the repo. It isn't like a wiki - everybody commits to their own
repositories and pushing to a remote is on a whitelist basis just
like in centralized version control.


This gets us into another topic altogether.

I do believe git pull-requests should go through Bugzilla. A
pull-request is the equivalent to bump requests, patch fixes, and all
sorts of stuff that we already handle through Bugzilla. Bugzilla also
contains our history.

If they happen to be needing to be pulled from github, that's fine.
Definitely convenient for the contributor.

We'll also need to clearly document how the pull-request is to be
generated. (I vote for requiring signed pull-requests. [1])

github should not be our central point of contact. We have b.g.o for
that. github should be on the fringes as a tool that we can use if we
want to.

[1]

http://git-blame.blogspot.com.ar/2012/01/using-signed-tag-in-pull-requests.html

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 09:00, Aaron W. Swenson  wrote:

> I do believe git pull-requests should go through Bugzilla. A
> pull-request is the equivalent to bump requests, patch fixes, and all
> sorts of stuff that we already handle through Bugzilla. Bugzilla also
> contains our history.

+1

>
> If they happen to be needing to be pulled from github, that's fine.
> Definitely convenient for the contributor.
>
> We'll also need to clearly document how the pull-request is to be
> generated. (I vote for requiring signed pull-requests. [1])
>
> github should not be our central point of contact. We have b.g.o for
> that. github should be on the fringes as a tool that we can use if we
> want to.
>

+/-1 : Not sure, for new people, it should definitely be the go-to way
to do things.

But people who are regular contributors ( which we want to encourage )
will feel slowed down if they have to open a bug report for every
change.

And I can see github facilitating "proxy maintainers" much better.

If a proxy maintainer has another gentoo person who all their changes
get proxied through, the proxy maintainer and the gentoo dev could
both have forks on github, and the proxy maintainer could send their
pull requests to their proxy to vet and merge, somewhat like Linus'es
Generals model.

> [1]
> http://git-blame.blogspot.com.ar/2012/01/using-signed-tag-in-pull-requests.html
>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 09:14, Alexey Shvetsov  wrote:
> In gentoo git tree all git commits will be signed by commiter gpg keys (and
> this will be requerd!)
>
> Aaron W. Swenson писал 2012-05-25 00:00:

Something that still confuses me about commit signing that I haven't
seen answered: How does a signed commit work with rebasing? I don't
see any flag to allow rebase to sign commits rebased, and rebasing
*does* change the commit fundementally in ways I'd expect to void any
signature.

Sure, you may not want rebasing in the master, but I sure as hell want
to use it in a branch. People who maintain a long-parallel-merge
history instead of rebasing their branches are on my personal shitlist
=p.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Alexey Shvetsov

Kent Fredric писал 2012-05-25 01:20:

On 25 May 2012 09:14, Alexey Shvetsov  wrote:
In gentoo git tree all git commits will be signed by commiter gpg 
keys (and

this will be requerd!)

Aaron W. Swenson писал 2012-05-25 00:00:


Something that still confuses me about commit signing that I haven't
seen answered: How does a signed commit work with rebasing? I don't
see any flag to allow rebase to sign commits rebased, and rebasing
*does* change the commit fundementally in ways I'd expect to void any
signature.

Sure, you may not want rebasing in the master, but I sure as hell 
want

to use it in a branch. People who maintain a long-parallel-merge
history instead of rebasing their branches are on my personal 
shitlist

=p.


You can rebase signed commit untill you dont push it to master
But yes i'm not sure how it works with signed commits
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Douglas
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 05:00:49 PM Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
> This gets us into another topic altogether.
> 
> I do believe git pull-requests should go through Bugzilla. A
> pull-request is the equivalent to bump requests, patch fixes, and all
> sorts of stuff that we already handle through Bugzilla. Bugzilla also
> contains our history.

This discussion was sort of in the context of proxy-maintainers. A pull 
request isn't equivalent to a bump request or entirely overlapping with most 
bugs that go through bugzilla. A pull request is  just "here take my code", or 
is useful for code revewing just because it integrates with the git workflow. I 
suppose you would  have to define the sorts of things that should go through 
Bugzilla. I can't imagine it being reasonable to use github for most types of 
bump requests.

> If they happen to be needing to be pulled from github, that's fine.
> Definitely convenient for the contributor.
> 
> We'll also need to clearly document how the pull-request is to be
> generated. (I vote for requiring signed pull-requests. [1])
> 
> github should not be our central point of contact. We have b.g.o for
> that. github should be on the fringes as a tool that we can use if we
> want to.

This reminds me of Linus' old Google talk on Git in which He said something 
along the lines of: "Many companies using Git internally don't know they're 
using git - they're using it whether they like it or not". There are ALREADY 
Gentoo projects using github and even pull requests. It doesn't really matter 
because everything more or less comes back to one point in the end. It's the 
repo that's the history of the project, not bugzilla. I've "filed" more bugs 
over IRC and had them fixed in the tree within 60 seconds than I have gone 
through bugzilla formalisms. FWIW, I think having the entire tree in one big 
repo is a bad idea to begin with.

But ok it's a good point. Github isn't a good central point of contact. People 
have to use their discression. It's just uncommon these days for a project as 
big as Gentoo to have ultra-centralized corporate-style procedures where 
everything happens exclusively though official channels. And anyway you 
couldn't 
"enforce" that sort of thing if you tried.

> [1]
> http://git-blame.blogspot.com.ar/2012/01/using-signed-tag-in-pull-requests.h
> tml

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[gentoo-dev] Re: comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Steven J Long
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> ..the proposal is to utilize the existing eclass documentation markers
> ..the metadata stays current, and we can scale better to all eclasses

> if people don't properly document their eclasses, repoman might throw
> false positives (warnings, not errors) about unused eclasses

> will miss throwing errors when functions are used but the respective
> eclasses aren't inherited.

> however, i think that's a good hammer to throw at eclass maintainers to
> keep their documentation up-to-date and accurate.
> any other opinions/feedback?

I think it's an excellent idea to give this kind of QA early, to avoid 
issues like recent eutils inheritance changes in the future; it's not a 
hammer so much as a helpful reminder, that improves things for everyone. 

You could maybe tighten the false-negative side by scanning all functions 
defined in an eclass, and warning if they're undocumented.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 24 May 2012 18:16:23 Steven J Long wrote:
> You could maybe tighten the false-negative side by scanning all functions
> defined in an eclass, and warning if they're undocumented.

that happens now when you emerge eclass-manpages, but i suspect no one cares.  
if you run the script by hand on your eclass, it'll tell you the same thing.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Dan Douglas  wrote:
> But ok it's a good point. Github isn't a good central point of contact. People
> have to use their discression. It's just uncommon these days for a project as
> big as Gentoo to have ultra-centralized corporate-style procedures where
> everything happens exclusively though official channels. And anyway you 
> couldn't
> "enforce" that sort of thing if you tried.
>

++

There is no policy that every commit in cvs needs to be referenced to
a bug, and I doubt we're going to change that.  So, if I call up
another dev on the phone and tell them they have a typo in an ebuild,
and they fix it and commit it, nothing has gone wrong.  That isn't the
most efficient way to work usually, but there is no policy against it.
 In general users should file bugs and not contact devs directly, but
if somebody has a private arrangement otherwise, no harm no foul.

Github is just another overlay.  If in the course of working on the
next kde release the kde team makes 385 changes to their overlay, we
don't make them log and close 385 bugs on b.g.o before they merge in
the files from the overlay.

So, if a team wants to use non-official tools, by all means go ahead.
The QA standards apply to anything hitting the main tree, and must be
followed at that point in time.  We should keep our tools working
well, but if in some case there is a better way of working, or a small
team has some other preference, well, have at it!

Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Rich Freeman  wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Ralph Sennhauser  wrote:
>> Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please.
>>
>> Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works
>> just fine for that. Maybe it's only github now but how many places is a
>> developer supposed to monitor?
>
> I'm actually a little torn on this one.  I'm fine with keeping the
> "master" on Gentoo in the sense that this is where the rsync tree gets
> generated.  However, gitbub has a lot of tools like pull requests that
> could potentially improve workflow, especially for things like proxy
> maintainers.  So, letting those teams work more outside of Gentoo and
> just push their changes into Gentoo might make sense.

So I'm a bit confused. Is GitHub open source?

>
> Perhaps github should be viewed as a widely-shared overlay that gets
> automatic updates from the main tree in the master branch (or whatever
> we call it).  You can work on a branch in github, get it where you
> want it to be, and then push it to Gentoo pretty easily.  When I don't
> have access to an upstream repository I often just push a copy to a
> fork on Github just to make my own life easier.
>
> Rich
>



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 13:21, Alec Warner  wrote:
>
> So I'm a bit confused. Is GitHub open source?
>
Your confusion begets more confusion:

Whether or not Github is open-source seems orthogonal to whether or
not we use it, as github is a website, a service, and there are a few
such websites, of which, github appears to be the defacto most-popular
one.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver)

2012-05-24 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Dan Douglas  wrote:
> This reminds me of Linus' old Google talk on Git in which He said something

I have to ask: was the pronoun capitalization intentional?

> along the lines of: "Many companies using Git internally don't know they're
> using git - they're using it whether they like it or not".

IIRC, it was about git-svn specifically, although I think you are
right: developers will use git and GitHub because they fulfill a need,
regardless of policies.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: autotools.eclass no longer inherits eutils; check your ebuilds!

2012-05-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:02:05 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh  wrote:

> On Thu, 24 May 2012 00:02:37 -0600
> Ryan Hill  wrote:
> > I don't see how removing an inherit is breaking an eclass' API.
> 
> The way eclasses are defined, the eclasses it inherits are itself part
> of its API. You can think of it using the lousy OO analogy that gave
> eclasses their name: the (public) superclasses of a class are part of
> its API.

Like I said, technically it is.  And that's terrible.  Let's ignore it. :D


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[gentoo-dev] Re: comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:47:09 -0400
Mike Frysinger  wrote:

> i implemented eclass checking for some of the most common ones in the tree, 
> but Zac didn't particularly care for the maintaining of lists of functions 
> used by eclasses directly in repoman (due to the concern of them getting out 
> of sync).
> 
> so the proposal is to utilize the existing eclass documentation markers to 
> extract the complete list of functions provided by an eclass.  the upside is 
> the metadata stays current, and we can scale better to all eclasses w/out 
> requiring manual intervention.  the downside is that if people don't properly 
> document their eclasses, repoman might throw false positives (warnings, not 
> errors) about unused eclasses being inherited, and will miss throwing errors 
> when functions are used but the respective eclasses aren't inherited.
> 
> however, i think that's a good hammer to throw at eclass maintainers to keep 
> their documentation up-to-date and accurate.  any other opinions/feedback ?

Is there any sane way to handle sub-eclasses?  eg. foo-base inherits
foo-functions.

I have some crazy ideas on how to do eclass versioning I may one day threaten
the world with if they ever let me out of my padded cell.


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[gentoo-dev] Re: comprehensive eclass checking in repoman

2012-05-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 24 May 2012 21:47:23 -0600
Ryan Hill  wrote:

> Is there any sane way to handle sub-eclasses?  eg. foo-base inherits
> foo-functions.

Oh and even if there isn't, big +1 from me.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 25 May 2012, Kent Fredric wrote:

> On 25 May 2012 13:21, Alec Warner  wrote:
>> 
>> So I'm a bit confused. Is GitHub open source?

> Your confusion begets more confusion:

> Whether or not Github is open-source seems orthogonal to whether or
> not we use it, as github is a website, a service, and there are a
> few such websites, of which, github appears to be the defacto
> most-popular one.

Actually, Alec's question is not so far-fetched. The Gentoo Social
Contract says that Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software
unless it is open source.

Ulrich



Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Grant
> add this:
>
> MODULE_VERSION="v${PV}"
>
> just before the inherit line and that *should* do the trick.

That did it, but there's more trouble.  g-cpan strikes again?

>>> Configuring source in 
>>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004/work/local-lib-1.008004 ...
 * Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker
 * perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr INSTALLDIRS=vendor INSTALLMAN3DIR=none
DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004/image/
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:  /usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Config.pm
Cannot open >/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Config.pm at
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/HandleConfig.pm line 470
CPAN::HandleConfig::_configpmtest('/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN',
'/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Config.pm') called at
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/HandleConfig.pm line 551
CPAN::HandleConfig::load('CPAN::HandleConfig') called at
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Shell.pm line 1517
CPAN::Shell::optprint('CPAN::Shell', 'load_module', 'CPAN:
File::HomeDir loaded ok (v0.98)\x{a}') called at
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN.pm line 1101
CPAN::has_inst('CPAN=HASH(0x1e0d4114e8)', 'File::HomeDir', undef)
called at /usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN.pm line 982
CPAN::has_usable('CPAN=HASH(0x1e0d4114e8)', 'File::HomeDir') called
at /usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/HandleConfig.pm line 506
CPAN::HandleConfig::home() called at
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/HandleConfig.pm line 478
CPAN::HandleConfig::require_myconfig_or_config('CPAN::HandleConfig')
called at Makefile.PL line 212
 * ERROR: dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004 failed (configure phase):
 *   Unable to build!
 *
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line   85:  Called src_configure
 *   environment, line 2220:  Called perl-module_src_configure
 *   environment, line 1936:  Called perl-module_src_prep
 *   environment, line 2008:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   perl Makefile.PL "$@" <<< "${pm_echovar}" || die
"Unable to build!";
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004',
 * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004'.
 * This ebuild is from an overlay named 'x-portage': '/usr/local/portage/'
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/dev-perl:local-lib-1.008004:20120525-061124.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004/temp/environment'.
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004/work/local-lib-1.008004'
--- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---
LOG FILE "/var/log/sandbox/sandbox-10934.log"

VERSION 1.0
FORMAT: F - Function called
FORMAT: S - Access Status
FORMAT: P - Path as passed to function
FORMAT: A - Absolute Path (not canonical)
FORMAT: R - Canonical Path
FORMAT: C - Command Line

F: open_wr
S: deny
P: /usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Config.pm
A: /usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Config.pm
R: /usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.4/CPAN/Config.pm
C: perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr INSTALLDIRS=vendor INSTALLMAN3DIR=none
DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004/image/


>>> Failed to emerge dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 18:12, Ulrich Mueller  wrote:
>
> Actually, Alec's question is not so far-fetched. The Gentoo Social
> Contract says that Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software
> unless it is open source.
>

Though in the case of github, gentoo is not "depending upon it".
Github could die in a ball of fire, and it wouldn't change the core
development, it would only change the development for the people who
elected to use github.

Anyone can use any git platform that competes with github, be it
bitbucket, gitorious, or a private git server they created.

Github is just a convenient go-to service for many.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] anybody interested in writing a Perl ebuild?

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 18:16, Grant  wrote:

>
> That did it, but there's more trouble.  g-cpan strikes again?
>
 Configuring source in 
 /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/local-lib-1.008004/work/local-lib-1.008004 ...

For local-lib, you're best trying using the copy in the
perl-experimental overlay.  If that doesn't work either, then why the
sandbox violation is occurring needs looked at.


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3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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