Bug#246107: www.debian.org: "Debian share holder contract"
Package: www.debian.org Severity: important Tags: l10n The German translation of securing-debian-howto contains a badly misleading translation of the term "Debian Social Contract": Instead of the accpeted translation "Debian Gesellschaftsvertrag" (cf. http://www.debian.org/social_contract.de.html), securing-debian-howto-de says "Debian Gesellschafter Vertrag", which translates to something like "Debian share holder contract". Since the social contract is a fundamental document, and since the wrong translation now is used in German media (http://golem.de/0404/30996.html), I think it is important that we fix our web resources ASAP. I have filed an according bug against harden-doc (#246104), which contains the securing-debian-howto. Gregor
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Bug#246107: www.debian.org: "Debian share holder contract"
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:12:01AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> Instead of the accpeted translation "Debian Gesellschaftsvertrag"
> (cf. http://www.debian.org/social_contract.de.html),
> securing-debian-howto-de says "Debian Gesellschafter Vertrag", which
> translates to something like "Debian share holder contract".
Oh, and incidentally, neither translation is correct German. You need to
add a dash ("Debian-Gesellschaftsvertrag") - unlike in English, you're not
allowed to build a chain of nouns separated by space in German.
(Yes, this rule is widely ignored especially by marketing and high-tech
people - a fine example of "Denglisch".)
Cheers,
Richard
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Bug#246107: www.debian.org: "Debian share holder contract"
* Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040427 14:51]:
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:12:01AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> > Instead of the accpeted translation "Debian Gesellschaftsvertrag"
> > (cf. http://www.debian.org/social_contract.de.html),
> > securing-debian-howto-de says "Debian Gesellschafter Vertrag", which
> > translates to something like "Debian share holder contract".
>
> Oh, and incidentally, neither translation is correct German. You need to
> add a dash ("Debian-Gesellschaftsvertrag") - unlike in English, you're not
> allowed to build a chain of nouns separated by space in German.
>
> (Yes, this rule is widely ignored especially by marketing and high-tech
> people - a fine example of "Denglisch".)
You're right. Although, even the Duden/Brockhaus doesn't strictly adher
to this rule in their products (e.g. there's a book series "Brockhaus
Sachlexika", spell checkers "Duden Korrektor" and "Primus
Korrekturmanager" and even a "Duden SMS - Schnell-Merk-System").
And, you're allowed to write foreign words with spaces (e.g. "Happy
End", "Small Talk", "Free Software" or "Open Source"). So it would be
okay to write about "den Debian Social Contract" ;-)
Gregor
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Hello, What is your relationship with http://www.aboutdebian.com web site ? I found on that site a lot of practical information to install/configure/use/understand Debian / Linux and their componants. I didn't found a reference to this site on your. I think it would be great to have a link to it on your home page, or on doc page. I'm very new to Linux, and opt for Debian (instead of Suse, Redhat) because of its "free culture". I now have it installed, but still in character mode (startx don't work, I guess I didn't configured the graphic card driver of my laptop (IBM THINKPAD 600X) correctly (at all, I didn't saw my graphic card in install process)). Many thanks anyway, you're doing a great job Best regards, Pierre Hardy. e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#246107: www.debian.org: "Debian share holder contract"
* Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-27 11:12]: > The German translation of securing-debian-howto contains a badly > misleading translation of the term "Debian Social Contract": > > Instead of the accpeted translation "Debian Gesellschaftsvertrag" > (cf. http://www.debian.org/social_contract.de.html), > securing-debian-howto-de says "Debian Gesellschafter Vertrag" OUCH! Although that part is done through the debian-doc CVS or similar. I'm Cc'ing this mail to that list. debian-doc commiters, could you pretty please change the corresponding part in the CVS from "Debian Gesellschafter Vertrag" to "Debian-Gesellschaftsvertrag"? It is something that is rather important, because that misleading translation was cited by third party already unfortunately. I am at least translation coordinator for the German language website, if you need something authoritative for the change, I'm Cc'ing the original translator noted in that document, too, so you can check back with him also. Pretty please fix it, and send an answer to the -done BTS address of this bugreport. Thanks in advance! Alfie -- Jeder hat seine Weise, sagt man. Aber man wundert sich weniger, daß man nicht die fremde, als daß der andere nicht die unsrige hat. -- Jean Paul signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Bug#246107: www.debian.org: "Debian share holder contract"
* Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040427 18:28]: > > Instead of the accpeted translation "Debian Gesellschaftsvertrag" > > (cf. http://www.debian.org/social_contract.de.html), > > securing-debian-howto-de says "Debian Gesellschafter Vertrag" > > OUCH! Well... sorry. This was my fault, since I translated the security howto to german. However: This error is allready fixed in the version on my disc, since I'm doing some other changes, too, I'll like to keep the file for some days. Yours sincerely, Alexander
