Re: *grins*
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:12:59PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:35:16PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > David Pastern wrote: > > > > > Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? > > > > > > BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker > > > operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos > > > Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. [...] > > > > That was a lovely bit of satire, wasn't it. It was originally published > > on the currently-defunct site Adequacy.org a year or so back. The > > article was entitled something like "Is Your Son a Hacker?" and was a > > parody of all the old "Is Your Child a Drug User?" scare-pamphlets of > > years past, in which various common symptoms of adolescence were > > described as "danger signs". > > IMO the funniest part of that was the wild replies from people who > didn't get it. > Yeah, didn't somebody post a link to it on the mailing list when the article first came out around June? I really found it funny because I had just started using Linux around that time and I understood it, but other people who I had thought had been using Debian and/or Linux in general for a while didn't really get it. :) Of course, OTOH, I'm a teenager and (at the time) my parents were pretty clueless about Windows and Linux. "What's so bad about Windows? I've never had problems with it" and "How can you get a *full*, *working* operating system for *free*? Everyone else charges for theirs. Well, if you really want it, you can get your own computer-- but don't come complaining to us when you find out you get what you pay for" were common arguments I had to deal with. Now, after having to reinstall WinME *twice* since my parents bought their computer in August of 2001, and having to deal with corrupted programs and more BSODs than I can count, they've decided that Linux is ok. :) They still don't quite understand how everything (distros, etc.) works, but they've accepted it as superior. So that's why I got the joke. But what was really funny was the comments from people who took it seriously. Anyway, that's my $0.02 USD. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: "Is your son a Lunix user?"
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 12:35:42AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 12:01:58PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Yeah, didn't somebody post a link to it on the mailing list when the > > article first came out around June? I really found it funny because I > > had just started using Linux around that time and I understood it, but > > other people who I had thought had been using Debian and/or Linux in > > general for a while didn't really get it. :) > > Well, what didn't help that parody's case is that there are media > companies with far more reputation than they deserve have historically > written equally atrocious articles about Linux. Those of us who were > still in school when geek profiling became the fad in schools realised > it was a parody and many, myself included, found it to be in extremely > poor taste. Oh, ok. Yeah, I can understand that. I've had my own run-ins with middle-school (would've been high school, too, but my parents pulled me out of public school after 8th grade) guidance counselors who thought that they were psychologists, and tried diagnosing me. *sigh* *shrug* > > Of course, OTOH, I'm a teenager and (at the time) my parents were > > pretty clueless about Windows and Linux. "What's so bad about > > Windows? I've never had problems with it" and "How can you get a > > *full*, *working* operating system for *free*? Everyone else charges > > for theirs. Well, if you really want it, you can get your own > > computer-- but don't come complaining to us when you find out you get > > what you pay for" were common arguments I had to deal with. > > I owned my house's computer, and when I got a new one, I gave my folks > my old one. They ended up putting WinME on it simply because my > sister had to use some Windows-specific CAD software in high school; I > think they're going to switch back to Linux after they get a beefier > box and the debian-installer auto-detects hardware, which is thier > only complaint about Debian. I offered to help, but they want to go > it alone this time. When I reinstalled ME the last time, I partitioned the HD and put Libranet on the other 1/3. Not that anybody ever boots into it, but it's there; my mom would use it if I would sit down and teach her how (time is the problem), but my dad, even though he's taking a Unix/Linux course this semester (he's going back to school to get his programming degree), is scared of my computer and of the Linux install on his computer. Wish I knew how to get him to like (or at least *use*) Linux, but I don't. :( He's getting there, I think, because he's finally seeing just how *bad* Windows is; but he's scared of Linux and needs Windows for his classes anyway. The local community college is known around this house as 'Microsoft Community College' because there are only 2 non-MS-centric courses this semester: Python/OOP (my dad and I are both taking that) and Unix (my dad is taking that-- I asked one of the professors about it and he said that it was just a really basic course; I looked at the microLinux distro I'm building an decided I'd be unbearably bored :). Other than that, it's pure Windows programming (Visual Studio (*gag*)), Windows servicing/support, Windows networking, MS Office, etc., ad nauseam. Most people in the school haven't even *heard* of Linux, much less seen a Linux box. *sigh* Scary. > My mom's one of the folks Nike IT throws beta boxes at, so she's a > little better than the average user, she thinks apt is a whole lot > better than driving to Fred Meyer and chunking down a few dozen bucks > for an upgrade. Heh. Amen to that! :) > My sister's a fairly average user, but a huge > graphics freak, but totally fails to comprehend how people think > Photoshop is better than the GIMP, especially when it comes to > support[1]. Score! *grin* 1 down, 5.9 billion to go... :) > [1] She used to like Photoshop. But then she wanted to buy her own > copy. She came back from Fry's empty-handed and ranted at me with, > "They want me to pay several hundred bucks for Photoshop, and if > something goes wrong, they charge a king's ransom for each phone call! > And I remember you telling me the horror stories about the Adobe guys > from the outsource shop you work at, so it's clearly not going into > training or paying those guys decent..." > I have a similar view towards Windows/Linux (I never liked Windows, though) and, to a lesser extent, RedHat/Debian. I mean, I've used RH-- in fact, I have RH 7.3 installed on the other half of my HD-- and I am totally *un*impressed with it. Installing apt-rpm made it bearable, but
2 questions: network card and internal speaker volume
Hi! I have 2 questions. First, how do I turn up the volume of the internal speaker? My second question is a little more complicated. I just put in a new motherboard, and everything is working fine except the onboard nic. It uses the same chipset that the old MB's onboard nic had (sis900), and therefore should use the same drivers. But, when I tried to load the appropriate module (`modprobe sis900`), it chokes with: /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o: insmod sis900 failed I tried recompiling and reinstalling the module, in case that was the problem (ran 'make clean ; make modules ; make modules_install'), but that didn't help at all. Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be? TIA. BTW, how do I reflash a BIOS without booting off the MB? I want to fix the other MB, and its' problem is a corrupted BIOS, AFAICT. TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to . to uh .. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: speaker and bios [WAS: 2 questions: network card and internal speaker volume]
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 07:06:46PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > Hi! > I have 2 questions. First, how do I turn up the volume of the internal > speaker? Haven't solved this one, but... > > My second question is a little more complicated. I just put in a new > motherboard, and everything is working fine except the onboard nic. It uses > the same chipset that the old MB's onboard nic had (sis900), and therefore > should use the same drivers. But, when I tried to load the appropriate > module (`modprobe sis900`), it chokes with: > /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o: init_module: No such device > Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid > IO or IRQ parameters > /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o: insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o failed > /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/sis900.o: insmod sis900 failed > > I tried recompiling and reinstalling the module, in case that was the > problem (ran 'make clean ; make modules ; make modules_install'), but that > didn't help at all. Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be? Solved this one. The card turned out to be a Realtek card. Found that out when I ran 'lspci'. Oops, heh. *grin* Now I'm recompiling the kernel with the new driver, and it should work now. > BTW, how do I reflash a BIOS without booting off the MB? I want to fix the > other MB, and its' problem is a corrupted BIOS, AFAICT. TIA. I would still like to know that, though. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ How dare the government intervene to stifle innovation in the computer industry! That's Microsoft's job, dammit! PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:31:08PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > We're all here because we know that Windows achieves "easy" at the > expense of being hopelessly insecure and often broken. Maybe it's time > to start offering another choice to people who are fed up with Windows > but not ready to install/configure/admin a *nix machine. > > Paying the occasional "sysadmin bill" might well come out to less than > what these people spend on the software itself now. Thanks for that suggestion, that's a really great idea. I'm starting up a computer/software company selling custom-coloured Linux computers (it'll be officially started up in early to mid-'04), and I just realized that I could offer a service to remotely administer computers for people who don't know and don't want to know about administering. Thanks for that post. :) -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to . to uh .. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:32:18PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..oh, daring. You oughtta come up with a policy on how you wanna > sysadmin or coach your clientele, and upfront. Good luck! ;-) Well, I've come up with this much (quote from my website http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/foosoft.html): FooAdmin For a monthly fee, I will administer your computers. There are 2 plans. Basic Plan: When a patch for your distro is released, I will patch the system. I will also set up a firewall customized for your needs. Whenever you feel you need a kernel upgrade, I'll custom-compile a new kernel for your system. Premium Plan: You get the basic plan, plus I will install/compile and configure any packages you want. Two questions now: is there anything else I should offer with either plan? And, how much do you think I should charge monthly (in USD)? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ By golly, I'm beginning to think Linux really *is* the best thing since sliced bread. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
? I'd have to learn how to do that over a network. As I said, would I use FTP? > and did the laywers on both sides bless the "contract" What lawyer? I'm just going to be dealing with (mainly) home users. I don't think they'd have a lawyer, unless I totally screwed up and they decided to sue me. And I don't think I'd need a lawyer till then? > and even if it was, can you collect on it ??? > - once you fixed their problems, how do you know they will > pay your invoice as stated/agreed ?? I'd have a credit card number and my mom's credit card machine. :) > and last question .. why are they looking around for outside help > vs their inhosue "it staff" or lack there of vs their high-school > kid-or-brother-cousins-friends used to be doing the task but they now > consider themself a business and need to find better "professional" > support and prefferably with insurance against certain professional > services that's being rendered > > -- i always ask, what was their budget before > -- and what is the new budget now ... and what happened ... This question doesn't entirely make sense in the context of *home* users. Except for the 'high-school kid-or-brother-cousins-friends' bit-- they may not know anybody who uses Linux, so they have no one else to ask for help. Unfortunately, I'm finding that in RL, Linux isn't that common-- most people have never heard of it. So there may be some isolated people out there who have linux and are looking for help administering it. > -- email support in mailing lists is good enough for 95% of folks >except business that already have their inhouse staff or their >local "friends" I'm hoping more people have the mentality that they prefer on-call tech support people who will definitely help them with their computer to mailing lists where the people may or may not answer the question, depending on their mood. Remember, most home users are switching from Windows, where paid support is the norm and the computers don't really need much/any administering. The people who want linux to be the same way are the ones I'm hoping to attract. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Windows 2000 is more secure than Linux... Since the machine is offline half of the time because of crashes, it cannot be accessed globally, therefore producing higher security. -- From a Slashdot.org post PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:03:12AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..you lost your Wintendo-vs-Linux paper, url? http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/~vikki/windowsvlinux.html > > Basic Plan: > > When a patch for your distro is released, I will patch the system. I > > will also set up a firewall customized for your needs. Whenever you > > feel you need a kernel upgrade, I'll custom-compile a new kernel for > > your system. > > ..cut this in 2 parts (basic and kernel?), KISS. ;-) Aight, that sound good. $10 per kernel upgrade? > > Two questions now: is there anything else I should offer with either > > plan? And, how much do you think I should charge monthly (in USD)? > > ..listen to Tom and Ron, start out low till you have "enough" work, > then hoist your prices to control the work flow. Price yourself out of > the boring stuff. No warranties, other than on hardware and "from a > backup", or you'll have Bill Gates shills ram it down your throat. Aight, that sounds like a really good plan. > ..and, do team up with somebody, your clients wants things fixed "right > now" when you're busy, and you can sell your own vacant time. That'll be tough-- I'm (AFAIK) the only person in my area who's ever used a Linux box for any significant amount of time. I have been thinking about that, though, 'cause you're right-- there are times I'll want to go out or something, and I need someone to work while I'm out. > ..802.11 connectivity plans in your area? Fast piping is not all that > cheap. ;-) Sometime within the first half of next year I'm going to be getting home-class ADSL (I'll upgrade to business class when I start making some money). I should be done with high school and have ADSL by the time this idea catches on. I hope. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ The Trend in computer self-help literature these days seems to be: "Assume the user has the I.Q. of a potato." We don't do that. (from "The LYX Tutorial") PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:32:46AM -0500, BruceG wrote: > Anyway - you might want to include a few distributions, as not everyone may > be interested in Debian. I found Mandrake, SuSE and Red Hatto have a very > good look and feel. With RHL moving towards Project Fedora, and Fedora Core > at 1.0 - you may see interest in both Debian and Fedora. I was planning on working with whatever distro the customer already had installed. I have a little (granted, very little) experience with RH (7.2), and if/when I get a laptop I'd put Slackware on it for a little while, just to get some experience with it, and I'd also put RH on it just to stay in practice. > Only reason I'm bringing it up is that once a client (or friend) has DSL in, > and if they have a laptop - they will bring up wireless. Hmm, I'll look into it. First I've got to finish HS, get a job, and get together some money to get a laptop, etc. Meanwhile my parents have to get DSL. > The other thing to look at is volunteering at a church, or if you are part > of a homeschool group. Maybe put up a website or a forum, and use that > experience to fill out your resume. I don't go to church anymore (used to be Catholic, now I'm an atheistic Buddhist), but I do belong to a homeschool group and I'm already maintaining a website for them. See http://bchomeschool.homelinux.com/ > I found that volunteering gives me experience in things I don't do that > often: replaced hard drives, PD's LAN infrasctructure and replaced defective > hubs (bad power and too many hits), replaced bad cable, set up a Payroll PC > (don't forget power-up passwords and disk passwords for those kinds of > animals). > > Finally - it might be cool to do a desktop install on a PC for your church > or whatever civic group you might belong to. I found that our church got > some donated PC's and re-uses them. My next project is to install Linux on > one, just to give a taste of what it is and what it does. Hmm, if only the homeschool group had a place to keep the computer, it'd be interesting to do that. See, we don't have a permanent meeting place-- we depend on nice churches in the area for a place to have our co-op classes (parents teach various classes on various subjects-- everything from anatomy for elementary schoolers to trivia (the class I'm taking this 6 weeks) to chess), and we use the electric company's meeting room for our group's monthly meetings. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ If you knew what Mona Lisa knew, you'd smile too. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:51:42AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:11, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > maintaining a website for them. See http://bchomeschool.homelinux.com/ > > It's empty *shrug* I'm having no problems with it, and no one else seems to either-- people are going to my site and the server is sending data, and I haven't had any complaints from the group. Anybody else here having problems? -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ "I hope I'll die before I have to use Microsoft Word." -- Donald E. Knuth, Tuebingen, 02.10.2001 PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:51:56PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Well, it works now. Before, when it was empty, was just: > > > Maybe your webserver got overloaded? Could be. I've been having problems lately with connections refused and stuff. Dunno what the problem could be. I thought I'd restored the settings that I'd lowered, but I guess not. Where can I get a copy of the default /etc/apache/httpd.conf settings to double-check? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Jone's Law: The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
Yikes. I'm starting to think the FooAdmin part of Foosoft is a bad idea... :( -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Disc space -- the final frontier! PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]
Yikes. I'm starting to think the FooAdmin part of Foosoft is a bad idea... :( Now that you have thoroughly discouraged me from remote sysadmining, how about if I start small and locally with home users within a certain radius (50 miles?)? About the credit card machine-- my mom closed her business, but she's kept the machine. So she says she could transfer it to my business. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > On these, I would sell Sarge. > And charge extra for anything else. Hmm, not sure if I should mention this, but, what the hell-- just keep in mind this is just purely opinion and totally unofficial. I want to see about getting a preload agreement with Libranet, to put Libranet Linux on the boxen. That way, they'll run a Debian-based distro that is designed to be a desktop system. Unless the Debian Desktop project is further along than I think it is? If I couldn't get that preload agreement, I'd put together my own install of Debian, with some different defaults-- for example, I'd set up the default mail server as postfix, rather than exim. *shrug* That's my personal preferrence. If the customer *insisted* on (*gag*) RH or Mandrake or something, I would definitely charge extra. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Once upon this midnight incoherent, While you pondered sentient and crystalline, Over many a broken and subordinate Volume of gnarly lore, While I pestered, nearly singing, Sudddenly there came a hewing, As of someone profusely skulking, Skulking at my chamber door. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:09:33PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ > > My everloving christ. You must be the only Linux user in Brunswick > County. I expect there's a few up in Wilmington or down in Myrtle > Beach. My how the world has changed. Almost the only one. I know of at least 2 others, although they only mess with it occasionally-- my Python teacher at the community college, Dr. Browning, and my ex-boyfriend. There are about 3 others who I think *may* use Linux, but I haven't talked to them in years so I don't know. As for Wilmington and Myrtle Beach, I know there used to be a LUG in MB, but apparently it died out, cause the website in defunct. In Wilmington, there's prolly a bunch of users, but there's no LUG up there. I'm going to get in touch with Dr. Browning to see if he'll help me start a LUG around here. > Is there really much of a geek community down east? Unfortunately not. That's part of why I have trouble finding a boyfriend. I hate to gripe about that, but it's bugging me today. I had a very annoying date with my current non-geek boyfriend-- all he cares about is watching pro-wrestling every Monday night (well, that and sex-- but wrestling is the annoying hobby (see my .sig-- I think sigrot is psychic) ;). :b And he just has a very annoying personality. Oh well, anyway... Nope, not enough geeks around here. That's why I'm online here as much as possible-- it gets lonely around here. :( > Are y'all anywhere > close to getting broadband? In the parts of the county that have Time Warner Cable (Southport/Oak Island and Holden Beach), they can get Road Runner. For the rest of us, there's Atlantic Telco's DSL. Until recently, it was too expensive for mere mortals to afford, but now my mom says we're going to get DSL sometime within the first half of next year (I told her I need it for my business, so she said ok). -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question. "Yes" is the answer. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:48:33PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Doubly so with the whole > Fedora fiasco (which is one of the reasons why I am no longer a RHAT > shareholder). Sorry for my ignorance, I was out of it for a few months, but-- what is that 'Fedora' thing, in a nutshell? I've never heard of Fedora. > Something you might want to consider doing, if you do any custom > software coding for your customers, is to offer them Debianized packages > from your own small apt repository. That way, you can easily distribute > software updates and sources to your clients in a consistent fashion. I have thought about doing that. I prolly should practice making a package with the free console alarm_clock app... *wanders off to RTFM* -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Market share leadership is a tenuous thing, Mr. Gates: ask IBM ;-) -- Laurent Szyster PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:37:08PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:09:33PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ > > > > My everloving christ. You must be the only Linux user in Brunswick > > County. I expect there's a few up in Wilmington or down in Myrtle > > Beach. My how the world has changed. Almost forgot to ask-- how do you know what Brunswick County is like? Do you live in NC? What area? > > Almost the only one. I know of at least 2 others, although they only mess > with it occasionally-- my Python teacher at the community college, Dr. > Browning, and my ex-boyfriend. There are about 3 others who I think *may* > use Linux, but I haven't talked to them in years so I don't know. > > As for Wilmington and Myrtle Beach, I know there used to be a LUG in MB, but > apparently it died out, cause the website in defunct. In Wilmington, > there's prolly a bunch of users, but there's no LUG up there. I'm going to > get in touch with Dr. Browning to see if he'll help me start a LUG around > here. > > > Is there really much of a geek community down east? > > Unfortunately not. That's part of why I have trouble finding a boyfriend. > I hate to gripe about that, but it's bugging me today. I had a very > annoying date with my current non-geek boyfriend-- all he cares about is > watching pro-wrestling every Monday night (well, that and sex-- but > wrestling is the annoying hobby (see my .sig-- I think sigrot is psychic) > ;). :b And he just has a very annoying personality. Oh well, anyway... > Nope, not enough geeks around here. That's why I'm online here as much as > possible-- it gets lonely around here. :( > > > Are y'all anywhere > > close to getting broadband? > > In the parts of the county that have Time Warner Cable (Southport/Oak Island > and Holden Beach), they can get Road Runner. For the rest of us, there's > Atlantic Telco's DSL. Until recently, it was too expensive for mere mortals > to afford, but now my mom says we're going to get DSL sometime within the > first half of next year (I told her I need it for my business, so she said > ok). > > -- > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ > Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ > > Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question. "Yes" is the answer. > > PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 > Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ > > -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- > Version: 3.12 > GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? > K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() > R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > > -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: > > > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are > > acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass. > > But talibans and islamists don't spend billions of dollars a year in > weapons. No, they just fund terrorist groups that fly planes into occupied skyscrapers. > Therefore the rest of the world is more worried about a theocracy in US. Personally, I've come to the conclusion that *all* blind-faith belief (religion being the most common example of this) is dangerous, damaging, and a sign of a sick mind. IMHO. > > It is true that margin of votes in Florida in the last election was > > below the statistical limits. It is neither a true statement that "Bush > > won the election" nor is it a true statement that "Bush lost the > > election." > > > > That is, the outcome was indeterminate. So anybody else who could have > > potentially been said to "win" would be equally illegitmate. It kind of > > sucks when you have a country without a president, > > But I heard that there is some evidence of cheating in the elections in > Florida in favor of the republicans. So you let the cheaters won. Good > example for your citizens. And I heard that there was also a lot of evidence that the Democrats cheated, too-- they just weren't successful. *shrug* What's done is done-- dwelling on it just breeds division. And unlike a software project, it's not a Good Thing for a country to try forking. Again, all that is just my opinion. For context, I'm (religion-wise) an Atheistic Buddhist and (politically) a Libertarian, just in case you were wondering. Have a nice day. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ "My God, it's full of penguins!" PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:02:06PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: > > > > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are > > > > acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass. > > > > > > But talibans and islamists don't spend billions of dollars a year in > > > weapons. > > > > No, they just fund terrorist groups that fly planes into occupied > > skyscrapers. > > I don't like talibans. But what I mean is that if you launch all the > planes on > US against New York city it won't cause 10% of the destruction of a single > nuclear missile. (I'm sure that US have more nuclear missiles than civil > plains). True. I guess you do have a point. If this place becomes a theocracy, I'm out of here-- I'm buying my own island and seceding from the US. Or I'll just move to England-- it's pretty nice there. > > And I heard that there was also a lot of evidence that the Democrats > > cheated, too-- they just weren't successful. *shrug* What's done is done-- > > Wow!. Then US citizens should be very concerned about their electoral > system, > cause it's not working as it should. What bring us back to the main > question: > Why US citizens do nothing? I don't know. We do care, and we're slowly trying to fix the bugs in the system, as corruption is uncovered. Personally, I think the whole federal government system is corrupted and bloated and it needs to be totally redone from scratch. Unfortunately, I'm prolly looking at this like a hacker. :( -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Pointers and NULLs reference each other. High level and assembler depend on each other. Double and float cast to each other. High-endian and low-endian define each other. While and until follow each other. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
themes for vt
Hi! I'm trying to track down a package that I had installed back when I was running Potato. AFAICT, the package is not in Woody (for whatever reason). I can't remember the name of the package, but it had tons of themes for the console-- it would look like CLIs from other OSs (RDOS, MSDOS, C-64, etc.), and it also had a bunch of original themes. I've just spent the last ~3 hours googling and wandering around the Debian website looking for the package, with no luck. Does anyone else have any idea what I'm talking about, or was that package just a hallucination, or what?? If someone could tell me what the name of the package was or (even better) where I can find it (or something like it), I'd really appreciate it. TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg25050/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: themes for vt
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:14:00PM +0100, Niels Felsted Thorsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) writes: > > > Hi! > > I'm trying to track down a package that I had installed back when I > > was running Potato. AFAICT, the package is not in Woody (for whatever > > reason). I can't remember the name of the package, but it had tons of > > themes for the console-- it would look like CLIs from other OSs (RDOS, > > MSDOS, C-64, etc.), and it also had a bunch of original themes. I've > > just spent the last ~3 hours googling and wandering around the Debian > > website looking for the package, with no luck. > > > > Does anyone else have any idea what I'm talking about, or was that > > package just a hallucination, or what?? > > > > If someone could tell me what the name of the package was or (even > > better) where I can find it (or something like it), I'd really > > appreciate it. > > Is it something like bashish you're looking for? > > http://bashish.sourceforge.net/about.html Yes, that's it! Thank you! :) > But I don't know about any debian package. Yeah, it was a package in potato r7, IIRC. Or at least, that's how I got ahold of it in July-- at that point, I was too much of a newbie to install any other way besides apt. Unfortunately, when I did a clean install with Libranet in August, I ended up overwriting the package and I couldn't find it after that. But I just downloaded it now, so I won't have plain old white-on-black consoles anymore. :) Thank you. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg25179/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
home lan, modem sharing, etc.
Hi! I'm working on setting up a LAN here at home. I have 2 computers here, 1 running Windows ME (within the next few weeks I'll be reinstalling ME (it's that time of the year) and then I'll also be trying to dual-boot ME and Libranet)-- my parents' computer-- and my Linux box, which I'm dual-booting Debian and Redhat on. My parents' computer has a winmodem which keeps on destabilising the system, so I want to disable it and have it connect through my computer's external modem. The computers are currently networked (pretty much-- I'll work out the bugs after the reinstall) and sharing files perfectly with Samba. On my computer, I already have fetchmail/postfix/maildrop set up to get my mail from my ISP, process, and deliver it-- but I don't have a static IP, so it's not a 'free-standing' server; I have Apache set up because I use webmin and dwww. I've already set up amavis/clamav to scan my mail because I'm kinda hoping that I can at best download everyone's mail and process it myself (and use my SMTP server for outgoing mail, which I already do for my own mail), or, at worst, it won't be a total waste because my mail can't be blamed for any infections on the Windows box (it has a mcafee virus scanner, but still...). I also want to be able to store all of my files (even ones generated on the Windows computer) on my computer and be able to access them easily-- but samba seems to work extremely well for that. :) So I have several questions: Can I set up modem sharing with a minimum of hassle for my parents when they go to use it and for free? How? Semi-related question-- do I absolutely *need* Partition Magic to dual-boot Linux and Windows? The thing is, with my dad being out of work, we don't have money for a $60 piece of software. :( Is it possible to set up the mail on my system so that my parents' mailboxen can be accessed with Mozilla on their computer? I tried getting Moz to get mail from localhost but it won't-- will I run into similar problems over a LAN? Is there anything else I should be setting up? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg27064/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: home lan, modem sharing, etc.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 12:50:33AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Vikki Roemer said: > > Hi! > > So I have several questions: > > Can I set up modem sharing with a minimum of hassle for my parents > > when they go to use it and for free? How? > > Sure. There is a package called diald that is designed for this, > although I have heard mixed reports about how well it works. pppd also > has a demand mode that I know works well. Set the client computer to > use the other as a gateway, do the proper things for connection sharing > there (more information to follow if you don't know what I mean) and it > should work fine. Oh, ok. Now I just have to find out how to set up connection sharing. That does sound familiar, though. Hmm... > > Semi-related question-- do I absolutely *need* Partition Magic to > > dual-boot Linux and Windows? The thing is, with my dad being out of > > work, we don't have money for a $60 piece of software. :( > > No. In my experience, when you're installing both from scrathc (as it > sounds like you're going to) just install Windows first - the Debian > install at least is smart enough to detect another parasite^W OS on the > hard drive, and set up lilo accordingly. If that doesn't work in > libranet, the default lilo configuration for Debian has some lines > commented out that will point you in the right direction. Basically, > Windows will overwrite the MBR without asking, but lilo will do The > Right Thing WRT other OS's on the disk. Good. See, I knew that once I got Libranet on the system I could set up lilo to dual-boot properly (I inadvertently learned about it when I set up my computer to dual-boot RH as the secondary OS); I just didn't know if the installer would (should) be smart enough to shove Windows out of the way. Ok, things are looking up... :) > > Is it possible to set up the mail on my system so that my parents' > > mailboxen can be accessed with Mozilla on their computer? I tried > > getting Moz to get mail from localhost but it won't-- will I run into > > similar problems over a LAN? > > Again, sure. I run qpopper or the like for LAN-only access - for times > where one computer is picking up the mail, but there are likely to be > plenty of dumb clients, and no one stores their mail on the server, and > you're behind a firewall, straightforward POP3 is easy and fast. If you Oh, good. > have more complicated needs, I recommend IMAP and SSL (or TLS). Most I was going to finish setting that up anyway (I started setting up TLS, got in over my head, and now I'm waiting until I have time to pick it back up again). But that's a secondary consideration. > > Is there anything else I should be setting up? > > Some iptables-based firewalling, especially for the netbios nastiness, > andit looks pretty good here. There's _always_ more to do, but that's a > good start. Printer sharing is also nice, and easy to set up with samba > and cups. > Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that-- I have iptables set up to filter ppp traffic (basically, if I didn't ask for the packet, it's not getting through). I also have printer sharing set up on the Windows computer (it's my parents' printer, so they keep it), but at this point I'm not sure how well it works; I've also set it up so that the CD-burner on that computer is shared, too-- I think that works, but I'm not entirely sure (UDF is a pain in the butt). BTW, is there a way to get nmbd to listen on eth0 *only*? At the moment, it insists on listening on both eth0's address and on all interfaces. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg27208/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dual Lilo boot with Debian and RedHat
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:55:37PM -0100, Andrej Prsa wrote:
>
> Yesterday I installed Debian Woody 3.0r1 on my laptop. I have been using
> RedHat 7.3 and I grew tired of things not working the way they should,
> so I decided to try Debian out. I have a 40Gb disk, which was completely
> under RedHat. Now I repartitioned it to be only 20Gb, 10Gb I gave to
> Debian and 10Gb are still free. Now the structure is as follows:
>
> /dev/hda1 is RedHat's /boot
> /dev/hda2 is RedHat's /
> /dev/hda3 is Linux Swap
> /dev/hda5 is Debian's /
>
> I used to have Grub to load RedHat, which has now been replaced with
> Lilo in MBR. It boots Debian without any problems and now I don't know
> how to boot back into RedHat. Mounting works fine, both /dev/hda1 and
> /dev/hda2. But if I try to add either to lilo.conf, I get "not bootable"
> problem. What do I do?
I have a similar setup (except Debian is the primary install for me;
anyway...); I don't know how grub works, but I use lilo, so here's how
I did it:
I put the RH kernel in Debian's /boot directory (remember, I had
Debian before RH) and wrote /etc/lilo.conf:
default=Neuromancer # Neuromancer is the hostname of my Debian install
prompt
image="/boot/vmlinuz"
label="Wintermute" # wintermute is RH
append="root=/dev/hda8" # making sure it finds the proper partition
read-only
image="/boot/bzImage"
label="Neuromancer"
read-only
I have a menu pop up, but I'm not exactly sure what line does that;
check the manpage.
That's what worked for me. *shrug*
HTH,
--
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Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/
"Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out
to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig)
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Re: columbia -- what really happened
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:02:21PM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > > > > Guys...it's a bit sad when some very brave people died in > > Columbia to be talking stuff like this...i agree with Vincent > > that comments like this are not necessary. Spare a moments > > thought (or longer if possible) for those brave Astronauts > > and their families who will no doubt endure a lot of pain for > > a long time at their loss. > > > > I feel sorry for their families, kinda hard to feel sorry for astronauts. > As for bravery, no I don't think they are brave either. Why not? There's always a chance that the shuttle will blow up at some point (Challenger and Columbia), start leaking somewhere, get hit by something, etc.-- they knew the risks and took them anyway. Unless you're implying that they *didn't* know the risks? > How the US can justify spending so much money on Space while 33 million US > citizens live below the poverty line amazes me. What does one have to do with the other? There will always be poor people-- maybe not the same people all the time, but a certain percentage will always be poor. There always have been-- some people are either lazy or just unlucky. I'm not happy about that fact, but that's life, you know? BTW, where did you pull that number from? OTOH, space exploration and research improves everyone's lives-- new medicines and medical techniques, etc. So how is it a waste? How is it anymore of a waste than welfare and socialized medicine? Not trying to start a flame war, just asking a serious question here-- welfare just rewards people for being lazy and not working, in my experience. Believe me, I knew a lot of kids in school who *aspired* to 'being like my parents' or 'being like [best friend's] parents' and being paid to sit around at home all day and have fun, collecting welfare. *sigh* Personally, I feel sorry for the families and friends of the astronauts, and I feel sorry for the astronauts. BUT, I hope that NASA doesn't do what they did after the Challenger and just sit around for years out of (unnecessary) fear. *sigh* Anyway, that's my opinion, FWIW. *shrug* -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg28663/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mixing stable and testing
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:14:02PM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: > > In same directory: > > dpkg-source -x metalog_0.7beta-3.dsc > cd metalog_0.7beta > dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot > cd .. > dpkg -i metalog_0.7beta-3_i386.deb Ok, I did all that, but when I try to run dpkg -i, I get the following output: neuromancer:~# dpkg -i metalog_0.7beta-3_i386.deb dpkg: regarding metalog_0.7beta-3_i386.deb containing metalog: syslog-ng conflicts with system-log-daemon metalog provides system-log-daemon and is to be installed. dpkg: error processing metalog_0.7beta-3_i386.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing metalog Errors were encountered while processing: metalog_0.7beta-3_i386.deb neuromancer:~# How can I uninstall syslog-ng and install metalog? dpkg won't let me uninstall syslog-ng before I install metalog because a plethora of packages depend on system-log-daemon. TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Yes, but every time I try to see things your way, I get a headache. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mixing stable and testing
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:28:57AM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: > > # dpkg --force-remove-essential --force-remove-reinstreq --force-depends > -r syslog-ng > # dpkg -i metalog_0.7beta-3_i386.deb > > use force options with extreme care, but they are occasionally > useful...(Only one of the force options is needed, but I am not sure > which ;)) That did it! :) Thanks. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -- A. Einstein PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logins and logouts hang
Hi My computer keeps hanging and timing out when I try to log in, and it hangs when I log out. It was ok yesterday when I booted up my computer after the hurricane, but this morning I tried to run 'sudo tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log' and sudo hung; it wouldn't respond to ctrl-c, I had to kill the rxvt window. I tried a few more times, and the same thing happened. Then I tried to ssh into my computer from my parents' computer, and the login hung. I ended up trying 2 or 3 times, all of which hung on login. Then I tried logging in on normally at a regular text terminal on my computer and the login timed out after 60 seconds. So then, just out of curiosity, I tried logging out of one of the X terminals I had up (I keep 2 X screens running at a time), and the logout is *still* hung after 15 mins. I can move the mouse, but the blackbox slit is gone and the menu doesn't pop up when I right-click, so I'm like half-way logged out. So to recap, I try to log in-- I type my username, hit enter, the prompt for the password comes up, I type in my password and hit enter, and nothing happens till it times out-- *if* it times out. And when I log out, I get half-way logged out and the logout hangs, but not the whole terminal. What could be the problem? Could it be a problem with pam? A hardware (like, overheating) problem? Do you need any more info? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Q: What's a light-year? A: One-third less calories than a regular year. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
Oops, nevermind. The problem turned out to be that my computer was slowly stirfrying itself. :( No harm done, thankfully. Well, except for contributing noise here. But I learned a valuable lesson about painting a computer-- *do not* use acrylic metallic paint, it's too rubbery and acts as an insulator when it gets more than 1 or 2 coats on it. Just in case any of you were thinking about painting a computer with acrylic paint. ;) I *hate* vanilla beige boxen! :b Anyway... Sorry for the noise. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ BUGS: As given by the -roaches option. Default is 10. -- from the manpage for xroach(1) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:26:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > If your machine is that close to overheating that painting the box > makes it conk out, I think you ought to install some extra fannage. I have another fan and a spot on the case to screw it in to, but nowhere on the MB to plug it in. I already have a fan in the front of the case, but there's no place towards the back of the MB to plug in a fan (there is space in the back of the case, however). *sigh* BTW, it apparently wasn't the paint, 'cause I'm having the same prob again. Time to go shut down again... -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Money is the root of all evil. Send 20 Dollars for more info. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 03:59:36AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..Vikki, check the _power_supply_ fan. (AKA PSU fan) ;-) What about it? -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ What's this script do? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep Hint for the answer: not everything is computer-oriented. Sometimes you're in a sleeping bag, camping out with your girlfriend. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:05:30AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:42:18 -0400, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 03:59:36AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > > ..Vikki, check the _power_supply_ fan. (AKA PSU fan) ;-) > > > > What about it? > > ..it _does_ run? Dead PSU fans gets stuff pretty hot. ;-) Yes, it is running-- though, now that you mention it, it doesn't seem to be moving as much air as it used to... Maybe something got knocked loose when I used the air compressor to blow the dust out of the computer? Does that seem likely? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ begin .signature This signature is for serious Software only. This is no attachment! end PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:18:06PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..uhmmm, yep, sounds like you spun it up _good_. You probably fried > the motor or the fan bearings, in the former case you can blow the > fan up to speed with any kind of smokers lungs, in the latter case it > won't turn over without liberal use of your canned up air. > Either way, replace it. ;-) Oh, man, a whole new psu? Well, no CDs for my birthday *this* year. :( Thankfully, my birthday money is coming in 'cause my birthday is next Tuesday. Or can I just replace the fan? I have another psu sitting around here and its fan is perfectly fine, it's just a mite underpowered to put in this computer. But do you think I should try to swap fans, or would I prolly kill myself? > ..your air compressor, is also useable for truck tires or diver > air bottles, or just to "redust" your place? Air is _fun_. ;-) > My advice next time, is Moderation[Tm]. ;-) Um, it has a tire attachment, I just found out this weekend. My parents use it for everything from blowing up bike tires to cleaning dust out of the computers to cleaning dust out of ceramic molds. *shrug* I assumed it was safe, since my dad said so. *sigh* Shouldn't have aimed it at the psu, eh? -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ You know you've been hacking too long when... ...you try to bring a window to the front of something, then you realize that the "something" is a post-it on your screen. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
> ..uhmmm, yep, sounds like you spun it up _good_. You probably fried > the motor or the fan bearings, in the former case you can blow the > fan up to speed with any kind of smokers lungs, in the latter case it > won't turn over without liberal use of your canned up air. > Either way, replace it. ;-) On that note, I wonder if any of the other fans are fubar... :( -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ This is an unauthorized cybernetic announcement. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logins and logouts hang
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:54:56AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
>
> You can use a spare disk drive power connector: the red wire on the
> fan to the yellow wire on the connector, black wire on the fan to one
> of the black wires on the connector. If the fan has a third, yellow,
> wire, don't connect that wire.
Thanks, that did it! :) I plugged in the other fan as an extra exhaust fan
to pick up the psu fan's slack.
> The easiest way to do this is probably to buy a power splitter, cut
> off one of the female connectors and connect to the freed wires using
> screw terminal block ("chocolate strip").
Or, there's the cheap route-- take 2 small pieces of steel wire, make a loop
on one end of each of them, stick the straight ends into the fan connector
and the loop ends into the power connector, then just screw in the fan and
flip the power switch. :) Guess which route I took? ;)
I'm not going to buy a new psu since this one is still pretty much working--
just not quite as much as it *was*.
If you don't hear anything more in this thread, assume this did the trick. :)
Thanks, all! :)
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Re: logins and logouts hang
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:00:11PM -0400, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > If you don't hear anything more in this thread, assume this did the trick. :) Well, I only put off the inevitable-- I ended up having to buy a new power supply. But I'm keeping that extra exhaust fan, 'cause you can never have too much fannage. :) -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ We eat algea pie, our vacuum is high, Our ball bearings are perfectly round. Our horizon is curved, our warheads are MIRVed, And a kilogram weighs half a pound. (chorus) CHORUS: Home, home on LaGrange, Where the space debris always collects, We possess, so it seems, two of Man's greatest dreams: Solar power and zero-gee sex. -- to Home on the Range PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
making a disk image
Hi, I'm working on putting together a floppy-based distro, and I want to back up my floppies as disk images. What's the quickest and easiest way to do that? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ 1 + 1 = 10 PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: making a disk image
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:08:31AM -0700, Marshal Wong wrote: > > I think 'dd' might work for that. Try man dd or info dd for more > information. You use it for writing disk images, so I guess it should > work backwards too. > > dd if=/dev/fd0 of=filename.img Thanks, that worked! :) -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ > Who the fuck is General Failure? And why is he reading my harddisk? General Failure, Major Number, Colonel Fault, Private Key... -- Kristian Ko"hntopp in de.alt.sysadmin.recovery PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Computers
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0600, Steve Waterman wrote: > Glenn: > > Are we going to purchase two computers for Kim Wallace and Jim Vanderslice? > > Steve > I don't know, but while you're buying computers for people, can you get me one, too? I only want one computer, so I'm cheaper to buy for than them. *grin* I would like my computer to have an Athlon XP processor, a CD burner, 2 floppy drives, a >=40 GB HD, >=512 MB RAM, a 400 W powersupply, a decent sound card, a decent set of speakers, and a decent video card, please. :P Happy shopping! :) -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W+ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spammassassin errors
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 05:01:46PM -0800, Michelle Storm wrote: > I am getting the above errors. Roommate tried to setup spamassassin on > my system last week. I think it was bouncing everything back cause I > stopped recieving emails, so I removed it. (I had to re-subscribe to > deb-user list afterwards). I don't know if it bounces the mail either, but that would explain a lot on my system. Anyway, if you had to re-subscribe to debian-user, then it probably did bounce everything. > > I am trying to get it setup and working. I am getting the above error, > and I'm not sure if it's cause I'm missing something or what? It's missing spamd. Run 'spamd -d' (as root) and it'll work. To fix it permanently, edit /etc/default/spamassassin and on the line that says 'ENABLED=0', change 0 to 1. That's what did it for my system after I had that problem. HTH. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W+ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good procmail alternative?
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:55:06PM -0900, Britton wrote: > > I've recently been trying to give spamassassin a go, so naturally I ended > up looking at procmail. Then I tried to build procmail, wow it sure does > take me back. Trouble is, I don't want to go back. Can anyone recommend > a more modern program/perl script that does what proc mail does and will > serve as a front end from which to call spamassassin? Maildrop is good. It does essentially the same thing as procmail, except it's more flexible. The command to use spamassassin is a lot shorter, too-- just say 'xfilter spamc' (I think; I don't have my .mailfilter file in front of me). Personally, I'd recommend that. HTH. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gpg problems
Hi, I have a gpg key, and under my old install I could get gpg to work with mutt. Now mutt and gpg won't work together. Apparently gpg can't find my key, or something like that. The errors I get every time I try to send a signed email are: gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=00) gpg: read_keyblock: read error: invalid packet gpg: enum_keyblocks failed: invalid keyring gpg: no default secret key: invalid keyring gpg: signing failed: invalid keyring I don't know how to get it work now. I kept all my dotfiles from my old install (I was running testing, but now that I'm running a server I'm running stable-- don't know if that's pertinent or not), so everything should run the same as before, right? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ What's this script do? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep Hint for the answer: not everything is computer-oriented. Sometimes you're in a sleeping bag, camping out with your girlfriend. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpg problems
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:31:47PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:32:05PM -0400, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a gpg key, and under my old install I could get gpg to work with > > mutt. Now mutt and gpg won't work together. Apparently gpg can't find my > > key, or something like that. The errors I get every time I try to send a > > signed email are: > > gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=00) > > gpg: read_keyblock: read error: invalid packet > > gpg: enum_keyblocks failed: invalid keyring > > gpg: no default secret key: invalid keyring > > gpg: signing failed: invalid keyring > > I'd suspect that this is just gpg - not mutt. To eliminate mutt, try > signing some file - if that fails too, then the problem is most likely > with gnupg. Ok, it's a gnupg problem. > > I don't know how to get it work now. I kept all my dotfiles from my old > > install (I was running testing, but now that I'm running a server I'm > > running stable-- don't know if that's pertinent or not), so everything > > should run the same as before, right? > > So: you used to run testing, but now run stable. This would imply that > you have downgraded gnupg: stable has version 1.0.6-3, testing has > 1.2.2-1... Right. > Perhaps the newer version (=older for you) of gnupg may have done things > to your keyring that the older (=newer for you) version doesn't > understand. Or perhaps there were key types added in gnupg.. > > Did you generate your gnupg key with the testing version of gnupg? The > stable version might not understand that sort of key. I don't think so. IIRC, I generated the key *before* I upgraded to testing, so the key was generated with stable's gpg. But, OTOH, the past ~8 months are kinda fuzzy (for reasons I'd rather not go into), so I'm not entirely sure when I upgraded. *shrug* Sorry. > I'd suggest studying gnupg's changelog for details; if it is only the > keyring format that has changed, then you should be able to export all > the keys (using gnupg/testing) and re-create them using gnupg/stable. > [make backups until ankle-depth first though. Keys are important] How do I run testing apps in stable? I don't want to upgrade and then downgrade again. Can I just run the testing version of gpg in a stable system? If so, at that rate I could run metalog, too. (I love metalog, but it's only in testing, not stable, so I'm stuck with syslog-ng. :b) Anyway... Is it possible to run kind of a hybrid system? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Linux is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates, Apache inside. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mixing stable and testing
Hi I was wondering if it's possible to run a few testing apps on a (otherwise) stable system. See, I'm running a server so I don't want to run testing, per se, but I want metalog and testing's gnupg (I'm having problems with stable's gnupg and my keyring, so I'm hoping going back to testing's gnupg will solve all my problems). So I was wondering if it would be possible to do that, considering that testing and stable have different libc versions. TIA, and apologies for the stupid newbie question. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. -- Linus Torvalds PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mixing stable and testing
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 04:27:36PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > > You would need to setup a /etc/apt/preferences file, add testing to yor > sources.list, and use pinning. Even so libc6 (upgrade) will be a depend > on anythig from Testing. For what you want, it may be safer/easier to > use 'apt-source' and build the few packages you want. If you are lucky > there won't be any depends or only a couple that you will have to also > build. You may need to run 'apt-get build-dep' in order to build your > package, you would get an error message to this effect. Um, ok, another stupid newbie question: how do I build a package from source? I downloaded metalog's source, but the package won't build if I use dpkg -b metalog-dir -- it comes up with errors in the DEBIAN/control file. Am I going about it the right way? I've compiled programs before, I've just never compiled a *package*. TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Good day for a change of scene. Repaper the bedroom wall. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r% x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: runlevels [was: fried(?) computer hangs on boot]
Kent West wrote: Vikki Roemer wrote: Kent West wrote: So boot into single-user mode, or start Linux from the lilo prompt with something like: boot: linux single init=/bin/bash or boot: linux -b (see man init) to start a minimalist system (-b = "emergency"), and see if the machine lasts for any length of time. So far, it's been up a half hour or so, and it's still ok. I used 'linux single init=/bin/bash', btw. If the problem were time-dependent, it would've hung within 5 minutes of booting. So the problem is fs corruption, I think. Does that sound about right? Sounds about right. Unless one of the scripts is hitting some hardware that's been damaged. Ok. I'll assume not at this point because that seems, to me at least, to be somewhat more unlikely than filesystem corruption. And I'd rather deal with 1 problem at a time-- starting with the most likely. :) Then the hardware is probably okay, and you've just got some file corruption or something similar. The "linux -b" option at the lilo prompt should allow you to then start running the startup scripts manually to find out which ones are causing you grief. Phew, ok. As I'm booted now, can I manually get to runlevel 3 and run the scripts? I had to manually run the /etc/rcS.d scripts, but I'm not sure about changing runlevels. Is there anything special about runlevels that I can't tweak manually? Or do I just change runlevels by running the scripts for the runlevel and it'll take care of itself? I'm pretty sure that if I switch runlevels the *normal* way (through telinit/init), I can't run the scripts manually. Right? They're just scripts. When you change runlevels, with a command like "init 3", you're just initiating a process that runs the /etc/init.d/rc script with a parameter that matches the runlevel. That rc script just goes to the appropriate rcX directory and runs those scripts Ok, right. I was wondering if there was more to changing runlevels than just running scripts; guess not. Sorry I wasn't clear on that, I didn't get much sleep last night (I need the hum of the computer to sleep, apparently); I just got back from taking a nap now that the computer's up. :) Anyway, so just cd into /etc/rc3.d and run the scripts manually like I did in /etc/rcS.d, ok. So if you change runlevels, you're going to run all the relevant scripts, and you may have a hard time figuring out where the lock-up is occuring. So instead, I'd look at the scripts in that runlevel directory and run them manually to see where the lock-up is happening. Right, that's what I was going to do. Just wanted to make sure that a runlevel wasn't, like, some sort of magical mode that the computer had to change itself, or something, that it was just an indicator of which scripts had been run. If you change runlevels, the scripts will run automatically, but you can then run the scripts manually also afterwards, assuming you don't freeze up before that point. To avoid the freeze-up, don't change runlevels; instead, run the scripts manually to find the culprit. Righto. BTW, what do I do once I find the problem script? Just remove the symlink and then use apt to reinstall it after I get the box back up on its feet? (Hopefully apt and dpkg didn't get fried) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: runlevels [was: fried(?) computer hangs on boot]
Kent West wrote: Vikki Roemer wrote: Did that, got a couple of weird errors, and found out anacron is what's freezing up the system. The errors are: starting blinkenlights: nice: start-stop-daemon: no such file or directory. gdnc unable to make connection to 127.0.0.1:538 -- network is unreachable uncaught exception NSPortTimeoutException, reason: timed out unregistering port So how do I fix anacron, get back nice, and fix my networking stack (I assume that's what's fubarred)? Is there any way to fix those? Try "apt-get --reinstall install anacron". Well, I would, but I can't log in. I have it booting up now, I get a login prompt, it'll accept my username, but it hangs trying to authenticate my password. Do you think this is a problem with login (I think that's the program), or whatever file the passwords are stored in? The passwords aren't stored in /etc/passwd because they're encrypted-- I know that much. And I tried logging in as both root and as a normal user and both logins are hung. And, AFAIK, only 3 programs (so far) are seriously damaged: anacron, cron, and fetchmail-- those were the ones that were hanging on boot up. As for those other errors above, I assume that in single-user mode, nice doesn't work (same as ctrl-z) and neither does networking. I'd recommend you respond to the list rather than to me, in case I tell you something wrong, or others need to clarify things, or I don't know the answer, as well as to provide a record in the archives in the event someone in the future has a similar problem. Oops, sorry, I thought I had. Mozilla is driving me nuts because it doesn't have a "reply to list" feature like mutt does. :( --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: runlevels [was: fried(?) computer hangs on boot]
Thanks for your help, everyone. My mom asked me about the problem, so I explained it in as much detail as I could (she's the only person in the family who's not a computer person, though), and she's convinced that there's something physically wrong with the HD (I dunno why, but that's her belief)-- so she says that tomorrow she's going to buy me a new 60 GB HD! :) That's better than the 40 I have now. :) So I'll just install clean on there, then just 'mv' /home and at least part of /var (mostly /var/www) to the new HD. *shrug* Good way to clean up a couple mistakes, too (like making the hostname "Neuromancer" not "neuromancer"-- I'll make it lowercase this time :). Thank you anyway. :) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apropos segfault
Hi! For the past few days I've been having trouble with apropos segfaulting. Part of the problem is, it's not very consistent-- in fact, I though that it had gone away yesterday, but it's back today. Sometimes, depending on what I'm looking for, it will get most of the way through before segfaulting, sometimes it will get a little way through, and sometimes it won't return anything and will just say "segmentation fault". I think it started after I ran 'apt-get upgrade' a few days ago to get security updates and to keep my system otherwise up-to-date. I'm running a mix of Libranet, Debian Woody, and Sarge (testing); I'm 99% sure this is a Debian thing, so I'm posting my question here. But does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? TIA. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apropos segfault
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:49:55PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Vikki Roemer writes: > > But does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? > > No, but lots of people (including me) are seeing the same thing. Bug > reports have been filed. Ok, thank you. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apropos segfault
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:17:43AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:27:19PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > For the past few days I've been having trouble with apropos > > segfaulting. > > It's been reported a million or so times. It's a bug in glibc, to be > fixed in libc6 2.3.1-6. > Oh, oops, sorry for the annoying message, then. :( I just wasn't sure if it was a problem on my end or not; it's not, sorry for contributing to the noise. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't mount or su
Hi! Lately (for the last few weeks) I've been unable to mount the floppy drive or su using one of my accounts. Mostly it's just annoying because the account that's having problems is the one I use for programming and for playing with possibly dangerous stuff-- my default account is fine. But, when I do need to get at the floppy when I'm programming, I have to log in as root on another terminal and transfer files between the floppy and the home dir that way, and then go back over to the terminal where I'm logged in to program; needless to say, this is a Bad Thing. But I've looked through everything I can find and I can't find any explanation for it. Both accounts are members of the 'floppy' group, so according to what I've read there's no reason why I should be refused access to the floppy drive. The error message I get when I try to mount a floppy is: mount: Must be superuser to mount. As for not being allowed to su to root, that's odd, too. What happens is, I'll type in su, it'll prompt me for a password, I'll type it in (correctly), and then it'll tell me "su: Authentication failure Sorry." I can't figure out what the problem is there, either. Up until a few weeks ago, I didn't have any trouble mounting the floppy or su'ing. Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be? TIA. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't mount or su
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:02:16PM -0500, Shawn Lamson wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:46:01 -0500 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) wrote: > > > Hi! > > Lately (for the last few weeks) I've been unable to mount the floppy > > drive or su using one of my accounts. Mostly it's just annoying > > because the account that's having problems is the one I use for > > programming and for playing with possibly dangerous stuff-- my default > > account is fine. But, when I do need to get at the floppy when I'm > > programming, I have to log in as root on another terminal and transfer > > files between the floppy and the home dir that way, and then go back > > over to the terminal where I'm logged in to program; needless to say, > > this is a Bad Thing. > > > > But I've looked through everything I can find and I can't find any > > explanation for it. Both accounts are members of the 'floppy' group, > > so according to what I've read there's no reason why I should be > > refused access to the floppy drive. The error message I get when I > > try to mount a floppy is: > > mount: Must be superuser to mount. > > Is /floppy set to "defaults" in /etc/fstab ? If so you may need to add a comma and >"user" to allow regular users to mount it. > ie. /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0 0 Nope, that's not the problem-- the floppy entry in /etc/fstab is: /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto 0 \ 0 It was 'users' instead of 'user', but I tried changing it; that didn't work. > > > > As for not being allowed to su to root, that's odd, too. What > > happens is, I'll type in su, it'll prompt me for a password, I'll type > > it in (correctly), and then it'll tell me "su: Authentication failure > > Sorry." I can't figure out what the problem is there, either. > > I had a problem like that a long time ago; the issue was an > improperly upgraded package; sorry I can't remember more. Do you have > any pending/not upgraded packages? None that have been hanging around this long; but I've had a few come and go. But I think I've had this problem with su once before-- as you said, a long time ago. But for me, I just left it alone for a couple days and it mysteriously disappeared. That's why I waited so long to ask about it-- I wanted to see if it would fix itself. But that's also why it's so frustrating to me-- I've had the problem before and gotten rid of it, but I don't know how. :( *sigh* I'm kinda wondering if, since I'm running testing, this is due to some sort of glibc/gcc bug or something. *shrug* I don't know, I'm just throwing out ideas to see what sort of response I get. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't mount or su
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:14:10AM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote: > Am Mon, 2002-12-16 um 19.46 schrieb Vikki Roemer: > > > > As for not being allowed to su to root, that's odd, too. What > > happens is, I'll type in su, it'll prompt me for a password, I'll type > > it in (correctly), and then it'll tell me "su: Authentication failure > > Sorry." I can't figure out what the problem is there, either. > > > > Up until a few weeks ago, I didn't have any trouble mounting the > > floppy or su'ing. Does anybody have any idea what the problem might > > be? > > > > You may want to try a strace of su: > > $ strace su > > Most of the times you will find your answer with strace. > Man, that's a cool program! I ought to run that more often. :) Ok, anyway, I ran the program with both user accounts (to see if I could figure anything out from the differences (after running 'diff' on the output file, of course)) and have the full output in a file in each account, and I also have a diff of the 2 files; so now my question is, how do I decipher this? I mean, granted, I do know a little programming, but a) C is the newest language that I've learned, and I'm coming to the conclusion that just because I can write some programs, that does not mean that I have any particularly great coding skills (yet), and b) this stuff is *really* raw-- I'm having trouble muddling through it. Alright, now for the questions-- 1, is the diff any good, do you think? I'm not finding any significant differences between the files. 2, I'm kind of reluctant to post the files; granted, I can chop out the passwords (that's the obvious one), but is there anything else I should edit out of the files before posting them? And 3, what do you want me to post? All 3 files, just the one from the account that's giving me problems, just the diff, or some other combination? Sorry for being a pain about this stuff, but I'm kinda paranoid. TIA. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't mount or su
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:36:58AM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
> Am Die, 2002-12-17 um 04.02 schrieb Vikki Roemer:
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:14:10AM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
> > >
> > > You may want to try a strace of su:
> > >
> > > $ strace su
> > >
> > > Most of the times you will find your answer with strace.
> > >
> >
> > Man, that's a cool program! I ought to run that more often. :)
> >
> > Ok, anyway, I ran the program with both user accounts (to see if I
> > could figure anything out from the differences (after running 'diff'
> > on the output file, of course)) and have the full output in a file in
> > each account, and I also have a diff of the 2 files; so now my
> > question is, how do I decipher this? I mean, granted, I do know a
> > little programming, but a) C is the newest language that I've learned,
> > and I'm coming to the conclusion that just because I can write some
> > programs, that does not mean that I have any particularly great coding
> > skills (yet), and b) this stuff is *really* raw-- I'm having trouble
> > muddling through it.
>
> Well don't ask me! lol. I don't even speak C...
Oh. *blink* Ok, forget that then. :)
> Strace is nice to check if some lib is missing or some file is lost
> (or if some device can not be opened etc).
Oh. See, looking at it from a programming/hacking point of view, it
struck me as being a really good tool to analyze programs and the
OS. :)
>
> > Alright, now for the questions-- 1, is the diff any good, do you
> > think? I'm not finding any significant differences between the
> > files. 2, I'm kind of reluctant to post the files; granted, I can
> > chop out the passwords (that's the obvious one), but is there anything
> > else I should edit out of the files before posting them?
>
> Dunno :) Change your root pass to "yaddayadda" before strace'ing.
Ok. I just edited the file. Hopefully there's nothing that gives too
much information about the system...
No offense, it's not that I don't trust you or anyone else *in
particular*, I just don't entirely trust everybody in general.
>
> > And 3, what
> > do you want me to post? All 3 files, just the one from the account
> > that's giving me problems, just the diff, or some other combination?
> > Sorry for being a pain about this stuff, but I'm kinda paranoid.
>
> The strace of the "faulty" su should be enough.
>
Ok. It's attached.
--
Vikki Roemer
Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/
"Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."]
Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/
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brk(0) = 0x80546bc
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=61997, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 61997, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40012000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libcrypt.so.1", O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\304\t\0"..., 1024) = 1024
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=18188, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 181052, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40022000
mprotect(0x40027000, 160572, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x40027000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x4000) =
0x40027000
old_mmap(0x40028000, 156476, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40028000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libpam.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\20\24\0"..., 1024) = 1024
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=29360, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x4004f000
old_mmap(NULL, 32484, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4005
mprotect(0x40057000, 3812, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x40057000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x6000) =
0x40057000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/lib
Re: can't mount or su
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 06:30:03AM +, Pigeon wrote: > > This su problem happened to me, with the additional weirdness that if > I just hit return when su prompted for a password - ie. gave it NO > password - it would su me to root! Nope, I don't have that. > > Some helpful person on the list whose name I have unfortunately > forgotten suggested that I check for corrupted /etc/passwd and > /etc/shadow, and that was it sorted. Sorted? What do you mean? But the files don't look corrupted. Though I do want to get rid of some of the entries since I don't need them anymore (they're from programs that I uninstalled long ago). Can I edit the file by hand, or will that screw it up? I don't think I can use linuxconf to get rid of them since they're not showing up in that program (especially the qmail entries-- there are 6 qmail entries, but linuxconf is only displaying 1, and yet I don't ever remember having qmail installed in the first place!). I was just wondering since some config files cannot be edited by hand or there will be Dire Consequences. TIA. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] Homepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't mount or su
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 09:32:50PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:13:18PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:36:58AM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote: > > > Am Die, 2002-12-17 um 04.02 schrieb Vikki Roemer: > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:14:10AM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You may want to try a strace of su: > > > > > > > > > > $ strace su > > > > > > > > > > Most of the times you will find your answer with strace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Man, that's a cool program! I ought to run that more often. :) > > Oh yeah. There's also 'ltrace' which lets you trace functions calls > through your libraries as well. Ooh, cool! Hmm, I've got to dig around the system and see what else I have... > > > > Strace is nice to check if some lib is missing or some file is lost > > > (or if some device can not be opened etc). > > > > Oh. See, looking at it from a programming/hacking point of view, it > > struck me as being a really good tool to analyze programs and the > > OS. :) > > Definitely. It's just another reason that Unix-style OS's are far, far, > far better tools than Windows (and any other OS I can think of) to learn > about programming/design/kernels/etc... Heck yeah, man. I mean, Linux at least (I've only used Linux and Windows, so far), you can tear apart the system and see what exactly (in gruesome, gory detail) makes it tick, you know? And if you can't figure out enough from the documentation and the output of programs like strace, you can always get at the source. Unlike Windows, which AFAIK doesn't even *have* programs like strace. Forget about the source. *rolls eyes* It's funny, there are 2 programmers in my family-- me and my dad. He programs on Windows and doesn't have much of a problem with it, although the bugginess is starting to get to him. But VB is his 'pet language'. Me, I program on Linux, hate Windows because of the bugginess and the fact that I have no chance of *fixing* any of the bloody bugs (at least with Linux, you can report the bugs and the developer will probably listen to you; if not, you can take the source, fix it yourself, teaching yourself the language if need be). The languages I like best are C and Lisp, and I hate VB because you can't see all the code; personally, I don't trust the compiler to write good code. But anyway... > > Also, you should have man pages for all the functions installed too. If > you want to know what execve does, for instance, just 'man execve' to > find out exactly what it does. If you need more context, Google is your > bestest buddy in the whole wide world. Especially look for university > course notes, since they seem to have the best (and least > vendor-specific) documentation. Hmm, I didn't know that about course notes. I'll remember that. Thanks. > > Ok. I just edited the file. Hopefully there's nothing that gives too > > much information about the system... > > > > No offense, it's not that I don't trust you or anyone else *in > > particular*, I just don't entirely trust everybody in general. > > It's just common sense. Putting your root password on the > lists.debian.org archives is asking for trouble :) Right, exactly. I just didn't know if anything else harmful was in the file or not. And some people tend to take things the wrong way. I've been getting in trouble for that lately... :( -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg20565/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: what BIOS options are accessible (r/w) from the OS?
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 09:35:54PM +, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:26:17PM +0100, Timo --Blazko-- Boewing wrote: > > But maybe i am going to install a simple power switch in the HDDs > > power cable... this shall render any attacker harmless. Physical > > detachment is the best way (just like with Computer M5 in Star Trek > > Classic :-) ) of protection. > > /me thinks that the ultimate firewall is relevant here ;-) > > http://www.ranum.com/pubs/a1fwall/ LOL! That's great. Forget iptables; I'm getting me one of those ultimate firewalls. I hope they're not too expensive... :P -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg20796/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Happy XMAS O.T.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 08:11:53PM -0500, Seneca wrote: > > I wouldn't mind some good non-alcoholic ginger beer as I haven't reached > the local drinking age yet and the ginger ale around here is very weak. > Same here. :) Merry Christmas, everybody! -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg20958/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: surfraw
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 03:33:23PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: > Anyone setup surfraw? I am wondering how I can set it up > so that the output is dumped to the screen instead of opening > a browser, if possible? I search "google chili" and surfraw > opens "links" with the results. I would prefer results to scroll > the screen like "dict chili". Will surfraw do this or will > I need to try and hack it? AFAIK, it needs a browser. That's its nature, it starts the google search for you and then hands you the browser to go where you want. So I think you'll have to hack it. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://compgrokker.tripod.com/ Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg21529/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gcc-3.2 transition breaks build of KDE packages
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 01:31:54PM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 21:54, criggie wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:10:49 -0500 > > "Hubert Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > criggie> Certainly an OS/2 install could be useful, but the details > > > that criggie> geeks like us find important are definitely far too > > > esoteric criggie> for 15 y/os > > > > > Huh? *I* was about 15 yrs old when I started playing with OS/2. > > > > You're a male - getting girls interested in anything outside anime/dbz, > > $insert-boy-band-here, and chatting is enough of a task. Most (not all > > but most) haven't twigged to what a network is, even fundamentally. Yeah, I've noticed that. Every time I (accidently) say something interesting and meaningful (to me, at least) during a youth group meeting, everybody just looks at me like I'm sprouting antennae. "ISP? What's that?" Someone seriously asked me that. "Computer language? You mean you're learning how to talk to computers? How do you talk to them?" *sigh* Those quotes from the future of America... *rolls eyes* > Shopping. You forgot shopping. Yeah, really. I mean, how many pairs of brown, high-heeled sandals can you have? I'm a girl, I was 15 a couple of years ago, and I still don't understand it. > > Yes, there are exceptions, but generally the exceptions are too smart to > > take computing at high school. > > Or pay attention to males. Why do you say that? I never found that to be true. Usually we're shy-- get beaten up enough times, you'd be shy, too. Besides, there are 3 types of 15-year-old guys-- the ones who hate nerds (all nerds, that is; girls aren't let off the hook); the ones who are scared off by girls who are slightly more intelligent than average; and the guys who are also somewhat more intelligent than average, but are so shy that they can't put 2 words together when they're within 20 feet of a girl. Or at least, that was my experience; anyone else care to comment? -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg24132/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gcc-3.2 transition breaks build of KDE packages
Sorry, wrong list. :( I meant to send it to debian-curiosa. Sorry. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg24166/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mouse problem in X
Anna Lawless wrote: >I've used Mandrake for the last two years, but always wanted to >move to Debian. I installed release 2r2 on my old box a year ago, >but couldn't get my mouse to work in an x window, so moved back to >another distro. > >I've just installed Woody on my main box. Everything went fine >until I started an X session. Then... mouse pointer as >windowmanager was loading, then pointer disappeared. The desktop >menus open at random, it seems, I have a mouse pointer, but it's >not working properly. > >I'm using XF86-4 with the Vesa driver for a nVideo Riva2 card. My >mouse is a standard ps2 wheelmouse. > >This may be a hint as to what's gone wrong. I don't have the >message to hand, I'm having to use windoze to send this. After >starting X for the first time this was in the information on tty2. > >Generic mouse loaded >Configured mouse loaded. > >So it seems that I have two mice in my config file. I'm guessing >that that's causing a conflict. >I'm a Debian newbie and don't have a great deal of experience with >working with console apps. I don't know which editor would be best >for me to read and edit my xf86-4 config file. > > Personally, I prefer emacs, but that's just me. >Could anyone give me advise? In other Debian-based distros (storm >and Corel) I've had no mouse problems. Could the two entries be >the cause? And if I need to edit config files, which is the best >console editor to use? I have even installed debian jr so I should >have a good selection, but haven't a clue what is included in a >standard debian installation and which is best for somebody who >knows Linux to some extent but has always worked in a windowed >environment. > > > > > > I have a wheel mouse, and I had similar problems. There are a couple of things that could be going on, though-- I need to know whether gpm is running (type ps -A and that should tell you), and I need you to post your XF86Config-4 file. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://linuxcounter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W+ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP->++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e->+(*) h! r--(-) x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboards
Jeff Whitman wrote: >Hello, > >I'm looking for information on P4 motherboards and chipsets for Woody? > >Please share any success or failure information. > >Thanks, > >Jeff > > > > Well, I don't know about motherboards, but as for chipsets-- avoid any and all SiS chips. I have the SiS 730s chipset in my computer, and the graphics chips sort of work (the driver is somewhat mismatched-- I have to deal with perpetual, severe pincushion distortion), but the sound doesn't work *at all* and Linux can't find my fan & temperature sensors (they work-- I've checked the BIOS numerous times to make sure). Take it from me, SiS chips are just worthless; avoid them like the plague :( HTH -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://linuxcounter.li.org/ "Quod scripsi, scripsi." [Latin, "What I have written, I have written."] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+> L+++> E>++ W+ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP->++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e->+(*) h! r--(-) x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dynamic IP questions?
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 09:13:55AM -0500, 0debian user wrote: > > Also I wanted to run my own web server and mail server but my machine is > not always online so how can I do it? Go to http://www.dyndns.org/ and sign up there. They give you up to 5 hostnames for free, you just have to update the IP address every time you redial. That's who I get my 3 hostnames through, and I'm happy with them. :) I recommend ipcheck.py (apt-get install ipcheck) to update the addy. However, don't ask me how to *automate* the update script, because I'm still trying to figure that out myself. HTH. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ I see the eigenvalue in thine eye, I hear the tender tensor in thy sigh. Bernoulli would have been content to die Had he but known such a-squared cos 2(phi)! -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad" PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RAID?
Hi My computer overheated a few weeks ago and I ended up with some fs corruption. My mom didn't trust the HD, so she bought me a new one-- so now I have 2 HDs, a 40 GB (the old one) and a 60 GB (the new one). The 60 is hda, and the 40 is hdb. So anyway, I was wondering if I could set up some sort of small, 2-disk RAID array. Would that be a good idea? Or should I just use the old HD to back up the new one? My computer is running as the server for my domain-- it's a web server, mail server, and the samba server for my LAN. If I do set up RAID, what type do you think I should use? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Lizzie Borden took an axe, And plunged it deep into the VAX; Don't you envy people who Do all the things YOU want to do? PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't ping lan
Hi I'm trying to set up IP masquerading. I had it set up under a previous install, but I can't get it going now. The problem seems to be related to the fact that I can't ping the other computer on the LAN, the one that's going to be behind this one. Everytime I try to ping, this is the output I get: $ ping hal1 PING hal1 (172.17.0.2): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote hal1 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote hal1 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote hal1 64 chars, ret=-1 What could the problem be? My ethernet card is an SiS 900 onboard chip and its address is 172.17.0.1. The driver is built into the kernel-- that's the only difference between this setup and the previous setup, the driver *was* compiled as a module last time. Could that be messing everything up? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ The gates in my computer are AND, OR and NOT; they are not Bill. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't ping lan
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 05:21:37PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Sunday 06 July 2003 16:57, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Hi > > I'm trying to set up IP masquerading. I had it set up under a previous > > install, but I can't get it going now. The problem seems to be related to > > the fact that I can't ping the other computer on the LAN, the one that's > > going to be behind this one. Everytime I try to ping, this is the output I > > get: > > $ ping hal1 > > PING hal1 (172.17.0.2): 56 data bytes > > ping: sendto: Operation not permitted > > ping: wrote hal1 64 chars, ret=-1 > > ping: sendto: Operation not permitted > > ping: wrote hal1 64 chars, ret=-1 > > ping: sendto: Operation not permitted > > ping: wrote hal1 64 chars, ret=-1 > > Try running ping as root. If that works: > > Did you install bastille or some other security hardening tool? Ping needs to > be run setuid root to access raw sockets. Check with 'ls -l `which ping`' > whether the binary it setuid root. This is standard, but some of the > mentioned tools change it to improve security. Yes, I did install bastille, but ping is still setuid root. Or at least, I assume that's what the 's' in -rwsr-xr-x means? Sorry, I'm still a newbie. So, what else could it be? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ 10 SIN 20 GOTO HELL PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID?
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:26:58PM -0400, Antonio Rodr wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 05:27, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Hi > > > My computer overheated a few weeks ago and I ended up with some fs > > > corruption. My mom didn't trust the HD, so she bought me a new > > > one-- so now I have 2 HDs, a 40 GB (the old one) and a 60 GB (the > > > new one). The 60 is hda, and the 40 is hdb. So anyway, I was > > > Will your Mom buy me a hard drive, too? How about Colin, and Jamin, > > and Martin, and Paul, and Pigeon, and Shri, and ... ;) > > From the way the Vikki writes, I would say is a very young person, > probably about 12-14. At that age is perfectly right to have a gift from > your parent, w/o being afraid of being teased for that reason. Well, I'm 17, but I was writing at 05:00, so I think that's a pretty valid excuse. ;) *shrug* -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ This is an unauthorized cybernetic announcement. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID?
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:03:23PM -0400, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 05:27, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Hi > > My computer overheated a few weeks ago and I ended up with some fs > > corruption. My mom didn't trust the HD, so she bought me a new one-- so now > > I have 2 HDs, a 40 GB (the old one) and a 60 GB (the new one). The 60 is > > hda, and the 40 is hdb. So anyway, I was wondering if I could set up some > > sort of small, 2-disk RAID array. Would that be a good idea? Or should I > > just use the old HD to back up the new one? My computer is running as the > > server for my domain-- it's a web server, mail server, and the samba server > > for my LAN. If I do set up RAID, what type do you think I should use? > > > Will your Mom buy me a hard drive, too? How about Colin, and Jamin, and > Martin, and Paul, and Pigeon, and Shri, and ... ;) LOL *blush* Nah, I don't think so. :\ -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ You know you've been hacking too long when... ...you go to the movies and catch yourself wondering what the color depth of the screen image is. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID?
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 04:04:36AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > I'd recommend not doing anything with the 40GB drive except running > badblocks -n on it for a few days, just to make sure it's OK. If it's > in any way dubious, using it for RAID is somewhat pointless, and using > it for backup purposes is a snare and a delusion. Hmm, good point. Thanks, I'll do that. :) -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Lisp, Lisp, Lisp Machine, Lisp Machine is Fun. Lisp, Lisp, Lisp Machine, Fun for everyone. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++> E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emergency! unrm a directory
Hi, I just rm'd a website on my server by accident, I need to know if there's any way I can get it back. I have an ext3 filesystem. I can't umount /var, the system won't let me, so I don't know how much time I have before the inode is overwritten. Can anyone help me, please? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d(-) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: emergency! unrm a directory
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 10:52:57AM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > Hi, > I just rm'd a website on my server by accident, I need to know if there's > any way I can get it back. I have an ext3 filesystem. I can't umount /var, > the system won't let me, so I don't know how much time I have before the > inode is overwritten. Can anyone help me, please? > > TIA. Nevermind. According to some stuff I found on google, and my own experiences with trying debugfs, I'm SOL. :'( Thank dog for a hardcopy backup... :\ -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Free your software, and your ass will follow -- Laurent Szyster PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d(-) s: a18 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 11/6/07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > add missing categories: > > audio player: xmms or moc > > cd-ripper: cdparanoia > > desktop OR window manager: fluxbox > > e-mail client: mutt > > file manager: gentoo > ftp client: filerunner > > image editor: the Gimp > instant messenger: gaim > > mathematics: bc > > misc utilities: ssh, screen, boa, iptables, logcheck, nagios, snort, bash, apache > > news: slrn > > p2p: gtk-gnutella > > package manager: aptitude, apt-get > > pdf-reader: acroread > terminal emulator: rxvt > > text editor: vim > > video player: xine > > web browser: firefox/iceweasel, links > > word-processor: open office writer > anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): gcc, linux kernel, debian, apt/dpkg, emacs, vi, apache, bash, tcsh > > games: angband, lbreakout2, petris -- Vikki Roemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh port not opening
On Nov 5, 2007 4:35 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:08:21PM +, John O Laoi wrote: > > "Looks like there's your problem. You don't have openssh-server > > installed." > > > > > > "aptitude install openssh-server > > > > > > This should solve your problems." > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone. That did it. > > I suppose that I should have done > > #aptitude install ssh openssh-server > > in the first place. > > one of the first things I did when you posted was look at `apt-cache > show ssh` and it depends on openssh-server, so that should have been > installed. I'm on sid, so maybe the dependencies are different, but > youmight want to investigate why it didn't get pulled in to your > system. Or what you may have done to inadvertently remove it. I'm running Etch, and when I did apt-get install ssh it just installed the ssh client. I had to install the server separately. -- Vikki Roemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Software for collecting email addresses
Sorry for not replying to the list.
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From: Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Software for collecting email addresses
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Depo Catcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Along this lines, does anyone know of a program that can quickly send out
> mass emails to a bunch of different addresses?
If you run mutt, you can set an alias and just send the mail to that alias.
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Fwd: question about vim
Sorry for not replying to the list.
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From: Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: question about vim
To: Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Andrei Popescu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:46:03AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
> > another look and I found what I was looking for, seems like modeline is
> turned
> > off in debian, so I have added to my ~/.vimrc a set modeline
>
> For security reasons probably. Be careful what files you are loading.
How is modeline a security risk?
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Re: curious entries in apache2 log
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone enlighten me what is going on here? > > ::1 - - [27/Feb/2008:14:05:21 +] "GET /" 400 1063 "-" "-" > ::1 - - [27/Feb/2008:14:05:25 +] "GET /" 400 1063 "-" "-" > ::1 - - [27/Feb/2008:14:06:02 +] "GET /" 400 1063 "-" "-" > > I see blocks of these in the apache2 access.log. IIRC, it's either a worm/virus or something else automated. I used to see them all the time when I had my server. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB pendrive mobility (fat32)?
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> DOS, and then Windows, allowed seeing only the active primary partition
> >> because it was the boot environment, and MS presumed that some other OS,
> >> that DOS was not compatible with, would reside on any other primary
> >> partitions (this is a theory on my part, but seems to fit the facts).
> >
> > Windows can see multiple partitions. 4 logicals, yadda ya, like
> > Linux. In fact, I've heard of setups where multiple partitions work
> > better than one big one. Starting with XP (I think) a separate
> > partition for {\Windows\,\Program Files\} and {\Documents and
> > Settings\, etc} is recommended. I'd have to double-check at school,
> > though. (I only remember enough Windows stuff to pass tests, and then
> > forget most of it afterwards.) But anyway, the WinXP computers at
> > school have multiple partitions.
> >
> > WinXP *does* seem to see thumbdrives weirdly, though.
> >
>
> One: please direct your replies to the list, not me personally.
> Because: a) others may benefit from your comments; b) I subscribe to
> the list and would prefer to get list related email through it.
I'm very sorry, I forgot that gmail doesn't automatically reply to the
list like I always did when I was using mutt. I realized a few days
later and couldn't remember who the email was sent to.
> Two: You said "...4 logicals, yadda ya, ...", above. The discussion
> was not about logical partitions, it was about *primary* partitions.
I meant to say up to 4 *primaries* (or 3 primaries, 1 extended, and an
almost unlimited number of logicals).
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Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM, PETER EASTHOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folk, > > Once or twice the list server has connected > the thread after I've copied the subject line > verbatim. Usually the thread gets broken and > complaints follow. Does anyone see why this > happens? ... With the server, not the humans. > > Is there a way to ensure that the thread is maintained, > given that I compose the reply in a Web based MUA? > Because threading is done by message id (see headers) and not actually replying to the thread loses the continuity of the message/reference ids. Basically, if you don't reply you're starting a new thread. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about Desktop Environments
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Klein Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Touche. But if I told my wife I married her for her cookies... > >> > >Of course. Only at his peril does a man tells his wife the real > >reason he married her. > > Shhh! Pfft, we all know why men marry us. Well, those of us who don't hide behind delusions... Which is why most women won't listen to us when they're told the real reason why. :P -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: > > Hey, > > They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon, > > Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for 7.10, > > 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about > > Jovial Jackal? > > Wasn't there a Hoary Hedgehog? Yeah, from about 2 years ago before they started going in alphabetical order. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
slow network
I'm running Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.22-3-686 with a mixed wired/wireless network. The debian box is wired, the windows laptops are wireless. My network card is 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10). The modem/router connects to the wireless router, which in turn connects to the switch that the *nix boxen are connected to (3 computers, 2 of which are off right now). I just got DSL. My router/modem is weird in that it doesn't like authenticating to anything but windows/IE (got it authenticated and working, tho), and the first day (yesterday) I was having trouble with firefox on both my laptop and my workstation, but that seems to have pretty much cleared up now. The problem I'm having is that the network seems slower on the Debian box than on the Vista laptop. Is wireless inherently faster than ethernet, or do I have a bottleneck somewhere? If there's a bottleneck, how do I track it down?. TIA, -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slow network [solved]
On 6/26/08, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So let's start with a wild guess. Run the following command as > root: > >echo 'blacklist ipv6' >/etc/modprobe.d/no-ipv6 Thanks, that made a significant difference. :) I just realized my wireless router has a bunch of ethernet ports on the back, if I have more problems, I might start by plugging the computers directly into that. Anyhoo, thanks. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vikki, Ron & others, > > At Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:55:16 -0500 Vikki Roemer wrote, > > "Because threading is done by message id > (see headers) ..." > > At Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:27:58 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote, > > "One that I warn you away from, Peter, is slrn." > > Turns out that the Oberon MUA passes SMTP header > parameters. So thread or topic continuity requires no > more than an "In-Reply-To" or a "References" parameter. > > This text produced this message you are reading. > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cool, it didn't break the threading. :) And if it didn't break in gmail, it's prolly ok. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Angus Auld wrote: > > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > > login? > > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a > > few methods, but also warnings that certain processes > > can be broken by doing this. > > Your .bashrc should be completely silent. If it produces any output > then it will break 'scp' and 'rsync' at the least. Probably other > tools that use a remote shell such as cvs, git, etc. > > http://www.openssh.org/faq.html#2.9 In my experience, I've never had fortune break scp, but maybe I've just been lucky. But, if it does cause problems, just remove it and add it to .bash_profile instead. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:08 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > In my experience, I've never had fortune break scp, but maybe I've
> > just been lucky.
> >
> > But, if it does cause problems, just remove it and add it to
> > .bash_profile instead.
>
> .bash_profile is for setting up global env vars. .bashrc is for doing
> things for interactive ("login") sessions. Batch jobs are not login
> sessions. xterm -ls is a login shell (runs your startup scripts).
Oh, ok. I had them confused. Sorry.
> Cf. "su" vs. "su -". The former gives user root privs with user's
> env. The latter runs root's startup scripts and clobbers the
> user's process environment (in that child proc).
Ah. I always wondered what the difference was. (I always use 'su',
my classmates use 'su -')
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Re: [OT] Naming Schemes (was: Laptop with Linux preinstalled)
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:51:03AM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > > But a name can be a snare and a delusion: we had another > > quasi-classical name, atticus, so called because it was located in the > > attic. Then we moved house and it was relocated under the stairs... > > And I had my office in the potting-shed for a time, so my very > > odd-looking skeletal tower box, with bits bolted on in all directions, > > was named potty. But it soon moved indoors and got a new case so that > > name was out of date too. And how much refitting is needed to justify a > > rename? new processer, new case, new motherboard, new hard drives, but > > all at different times, so at which point should it be renamed? > > My (currently down) computer is called bixi, because it has an Intel BX > mainboard. If it turns out I will have to replace it (I hope it's only > the memory, otherwise I'll have to change just about everything) I'll > have to think of a new name as well. Whereas my main computer has had the same name since I set it up-- neuromancer. My naming scheme is AI computers/robots (I have to throw in robots to include my fiance's computer, Canti). That system has been in several cases, with several different processors (AMD Duron, P3, now Celeron D). The only thing that's remained constant is most of the data in my home dir, and even that's moved across a couple harddrives. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Naming Schemes (was: Laptop with Linux preinstalled)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Adrian Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/04/2008, Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whereas my main computer has had the same name since I set it up-- > > neuromancer. My naming scheme is AI computers/robots (I have to throw > > in robots to include my fiance's computer, Canti). That system has > > been in several cases, with several different processors (AMD Duron, > > P3, now Celeron D). The only thing that's remained constant is most > > of the data in my home dir, and even that's moved across a couple > > harddrives. > > My naming scheme is similar to yours, but based on Battlestar > Galactica. I have Caprica(router), Starbuck (Temperamental), > Galactica, Earth(Server), Cylon (Wireless router) and > Basestar(Laptop). > > Names remain the same over different hardware - less work. For me it > is the data it holds or the function it performs that I name. Exactly. My main workstation/server (till I get a separate server) is neuromancer, my test box is wintermute, my router is alice, and my laptop is joshua. I had also named my parents' windows computer HAL9000 and HAL1. My fiance's desktop is Canti. And the server is slated to be named aivas. The only time I changed that scheme was I named my server at school feanor, till my teacher made me change it to server12. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CPU frequency scaling
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Peter Tynan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I came across an article over at > http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/green-pcs-cpu-frequency-scaling-in-linux/ > about CPU frequency scaling and thought I's give it a try but whenever > I run the command > > "modprobe powernow_k7" or "modprobe acpi_cpufreq" > > I get the response along the lines of > > "FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k7 > > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko): > No such device" > > I using Debian Lenny with the latest 686 kernel. > > Anybody any ideas? Probably a dumb question, but what processor do you have? -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid/Unstable
On Nov 8, 2007 7:52 PM, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know this question is going to get a variety of answers, but I would > like to get everybody's opinion. I am currently running Testing with a > few packages from Sid. I just moved to Debian a few weeks ago. I am > running Debian as a home server which handles a website, e-mail server, > samba server, a few other small server applications. I am really the > only user except for e-mail, I have about 4 users total on the system. > More than anything running Linux is a complete learning experience for > me. I have noticed that it takes at least 10 days, if not more, to get > updated packages from unstable to testing. How dangerous would it be > for me to move completely to unstable? Has anybody completely trashed > their system by running unstable? I like to live on the cutting edge, > but I also don't want my machine to completely die where it won't boot > up anymore. Personally, for security reasons, I'd say to run a server on stable. Unless testing is as secure as stable now that it gets security updates? Unstable tends to be, well, unstable. I've never heard of it becoming unbootable, but it has been known to crash, get flaky, and just generally have bugs you wouldn't want a server to have. But that's my opinion; I also don't care about being bleeding edge, I'm a security freak, and I take my server very seriously. YMMV. -- Vikki Roemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash history
On Jan 16, 2008 6:25 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use alot of console windows in X as well as having shells and ssh shells > open > sometimes for the same user. I notice that bash doesn't save every command > immediately and loses the history from simultaneous bash sessions, when they > are > not the last session to close. > > Is that normal? Or is there some sort of caching that I can configure better? Yes, it's normal. I don't know if you can reconfigure it (hopefully). -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird characters
Hi, My problem is, after I had to reboot (computer overheated again), some of the characters in programs don't display right. The worst ones are the arrows in threads in Mutt aren't arrows anymore, they're accented a's and boxes; and in all windowmanagers the program names in the titlebars and the writing on the blackbox slit, the letters are separated by @ signs. The only 2 things that I can think of that caused it are a) overheating (hopefully not), or b) broken UTF-8 support. Before I made UTF-8 English the default characterset, everything was fine. Now it's messed up. Anyway, my question is, how do I set i back to the ascii (i forget the number) charset? I forgot what command I used to change it in the first place. :( TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. -- Oscar Wilde PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d---(-) s: a19 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: weird characters
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 07:26:14PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Hi, > > My problem is, after I had to reboot (computer overheated again), > > what overheated ?? Ok, the problem is, I have a processor that runs hot, and I have as many fans as possible in the system (including putting an 80mm case fan on the CPU with an adapter), and it still tends to overheat. It will not shut itself down-- if it gets to the point where it *should* shut down, the system hangs. I can tell when it's overheating because cron and a few other progs stay running even after they should've stopped (I'll end up with ~1000 instances of cron clogging my system), and pon/poff won't work-- either it'll lose the connection and not even bother redialing or i'll try to disconnect and it won't. So what ends up happening is I have to powercycle the system. I have had the HDD get corrupted from overheating before if I let it sit too long (one of the times the bios gave the shutoff command and made the system hang). So that could've happened again. Or, it could be the utf-8 thing because the characters started messing up in mutt a couple days before it overheated. I'm not sure. As for the whole overheating thing, as soon as I can get out of school, get a job, and save up some money, I'm buying a P4 and getting the other hardware from my fiance and rebuilding the system-- he has all the hardware for a decent system sitting in his closet except a harddrive, a powersupply, and a processor. So that'll be taken care of in a couple months. What I'm trying to decide is, do I need to reinstall? I'm assuming from your reply that my problem is due to HDD corruption. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Did you know ... That no-one ever reads these things? PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d---(-) s: a19 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: weird characters
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 10:35:01PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Ok, the problem is, I have a processor that runs hot, and I have as many > > fans as possible in the system (including putting an 80mm case fan on the > > CPU with an adapter), and it still tends to overheat. It will not shut > > form the rest of the stuff below ... your disk system is corrupted *sigh* Alright, I was afraid of that. :( Thanks. > - if your system boots properly .. and x11 looks oky fro a while ... > i'd bet the cpu is still okay... Yeah, it's overheated at least 3-5 times a year (on a good year) for the last 3 years, and the cpu is still ok. I've gone through one motherboard (and this one is working on dying too), but the cpu is always ok. Heh. > - if you, or anybody, has to hit the reset or power switch at least once, > i say the machine is misconfigured ... or something is seriously wrong > with the existing hardware ( i'm finicky about things working right > esp if means losing data if "something" is known to be wrong/flaky ) > - reset and power switch should be hands off Yeah, I've used Linux long enough to know that-- I just have bottom-of-the-line hardware that doesn't know that. :) On a normal shutdown/reboot ACPI works fine, but when it overheats... > - if you have a heat problem > - take the covers off > - put a standard $20 household fan on it and blow the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > out of > it ... skip all those mickey mouse 40mm/80mm/120mm fans Aight, I'll try that. Thanks. :) > - the bios should should down the cpu in its "health monitor" section > if it has the capability .. otherwise, put an egg on it and have > breakfast sometimes .. Heh, yeah, *should*. But it's a cheap, sorry MB with a cheap, sorry bios, so it doesn't. For the record: never buy cheap hardware, especially Elite Group motherboards. Anyway, thanks for the help Alvin. Till I get a new cpu, I will see if I can get a fan for the computer. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ He's dead, Jim. That's ten this week already. PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d---(-) s: a19 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: weird characters FIXED
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 12:07:21PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:28:26PM -0400, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Hi, > > My problem is, after I had to reboot (computer overheated again), some of > > the characters in programs don't display right. > > This doesn't sound like an overheating problem to me. > For one thing, the Mutt arrow problem happens to me too, > starting when I made UTF-8 English the default characterset. > I don't know how to fix it. > > -- hendrik It wasn't overheating, it was UTF-8. The command to fix the problem is 'dpkg-reconfigure locales', and (for English) to go back to ascii is en_US. Found the command in the file /etc/locale.gen HTH -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ Registered Linux user #280021 http://counter.li.org/ Dawn, n.: The time when men of reason go to bed. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d---(-) s: a19 C(++) UL P+ L+++> E- W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X+ R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+ h! r x* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
wheel mouse wheel not working
Hi! I've been using Debian for about a week now, and during that time I've been trying to get my mouse to work properly, but I can't. I have a PS/2 Microsoft Wheel Mouse. Since it's possible to click with the wheel button as well as scroll, I was hoping I could use it as a third button as well as a scroll wheel. However, I can't even get the wheel to even scroll, much less click. I downloaded and installed IMWheel, and followed the instuctions, but it still doesn't work. I've also read everything I can find about configuring mice, but nothing has been helpful. Maybe I'm just not understanding the instructions? (This is all pretty heavy-duty for someone who just came from Windows 9x (but it's worth it), so it's highly likely that I'm just misunderstanding most of the manuals.) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance, Vikki Roemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wheel mouse wheel not working
In XF86Setup, the settings are: mouse protocol: IntelliMouse (that was what IMWheel said to set it for; I had it set for PS/2 originally, but the mouse acted like it was on drugs. Both the IntelliMouse and the Microsoft protocols work); device: /dev/gpmdata (also according to the IMW instructions. I had had it set to /dev/mouse previously, and it worked normally (it didn't malfunction, but the wheel still didn't work)); 3 button emulation is turned off (IMW said to turn it off so tthat the program would work); resolution is set to "high"; the baud rate is 1200; under "Buttons", the "3" radio button is selected; sample rate is 0; Emulate3Timeout is 50. Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: > On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 23:47, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > It would be much easier to help if you also told what you have in > XFConfig-x. > If you use the settings Ps/2, mabye you schould try ImPs/2. I have with > several pc's used different mouses, optic and ordinary with skroll, and > it is allways working both as button and scroll. > > > Hi! > > I've been using Debian for about a week now, and during that time I've > > been trying to get my mouse to work properly, but I can't. > > > > I have a PS/2 Microsoft Wheel Mouse. Since it's possible to click with > > the wheel button as well as scroll, I was hoping I could use it as a > > third button as well as a scroll wheel. However, I can't even get the > > wheel to even scroll, much less click. > > > > I downloaded and installed IMWheel, and followed the instuctions, but it > > still doesn't work. I've also read everything I can find about > > configuring mice, but nothing has been helpful. Maybe I'm just not > > understanding the instructions? (This is all pretty heavy-duty for > > someone who just came from Windows 9x (but it's worth it), so it's > > highly likely that I'm just misunderstanding most of the manuals.) > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > Vikki Roemer > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > /ernst > > >Name: signature.asc >signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature > Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wheel mouse wheel not working
My version of XFree86 is 3.3.5 . >From my /etc/X11/XF86Config file: Section "Pointer" Protocol "IntelliMouse" Device "/dev/mouse" BaudRate 1200 Emulate3Timeout 50 Resolution 200 EndSection Was that the right file? It looks different than what everyone else is posting. Jeremy Turner wrote: On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 16:47, Vikki Roemer wrote: Hi! I've been using Debian for about a week now, and during that time I've been trying to get my mouse to work properly, but I can't. I have a PS/2 Microsoft Wheel Mouse. Since it's possible to click with the wheel button as well as scroll, I was hoping I could use it as a third button as well as a scroll wheel. However, I can't even get the wheel to even scroll, much less click. I downloaded and installed IMWheel, and followed the instuctions, but it still doesn't work. I've also read everything I can find about configuring mice, but nothing has been helpful. Maybe I'm just not understanding the instructions? (This is all pretty heavy-duty for someone who just came from Windows 9x (but it's worth it), so it's highly likely that I'm just misunderstanding most of the manuals.) Hello and welcome to Debian! It's a little tough in the beginning, but it does eventually get easier as you understand how to work with the whole process and configuration of things. You might post your XF86Config-4 with the exact input section that your mouse is in. That helps a lot. With a wheel mouse, you don't need any of the emulate 3 mouse buttons (since you have 3 mouse buttons). Also, to get scrolling, you will want to add a line like: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Which reminds me... what version of XFree86 are you using? I'm using 4.1. Here is my mouse section for my USB mouse: ### # USB Mouse ### Section "InputDevice" Identifier "USBMouse" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" #change for PS/2 Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection HTH, Jeremy
Re: wheel mouse wheel not working
When I went into XF86Setup, it said I was using /dev/gpmdata , but when I opened XF86Config, it said I'm using /dev/mouse . I would've checked XF86Config last night, but at first it couldn't find it, and once it finally did find it, it wouldn't let me open it. BTW, that version number is correct only if the manpage is up-to-date. I don't know how to find the version number any other way. Anyway, on to the update. I went into XF86Setup a few minutes ago and tried tweaking some of the mouse settings and found out that: /dev/psaux doesn't work at all; Setup still insists that the device is /dev/gpmdata even though the config file (which, I assume, is what actually matters?) states otherwise; the IMPS/2 protocol doesn't work; and all hell breaks loose if I set the Emulate3Timeout to 0. BTW, assuming I have the version number correct, how do I get a more up-to-date version of XFree86? I have the Potato version of Debian, and the only version of XF86 that dselect has listed is the one I already have. Thanks for all your help so far! Vineet Kumar wrote: * Vikki Roemer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020625 09:37]: My version of XFree86 is 3.3.5 . From my /etc/X11/XF86Config file: Section "Pointer" Protocol"IntelliMouse" Device "/dev/mouse" BaudRate1200 Emulate3Timeout 50 Resolution 200 EndSection Was that the right file? It looks different than what everyone else is posting. I notice you said you were using /dev/gpmdata. IMO, that's the right thing to do. It's the only thing to do if you also want to be able to use your mouse on the text consoles as well as in X. If not, just remove gpm and use /dev/psaux. To keep gpm around and use X, and use the wheel, make your gpm.conf look like this: device=/dev/psaux responsiveness= repeat_type=raw type=imps2 append="" sample_rate= and set X to use ImPS/2 on /dev/gpmdata good times, Vineet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
