X11 startup permission problem
I have a system that when it boots reports that X11 couldn't start, and if I then try to start it manually (startx), it says: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership, not root:root and It is actually: nobody:nogroup If I change it, and then do startx, it works. but then later at a reboot it fails again. ?? Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eth0 promiscuous mode ??
When I boot my system in the boot sequence (after starting etho interface) I get a message; device eth0 entered promiscuous mode device eth0 left promiscuous mode And then these continue to trickle out.. Never saw this before on this machine, something wrong?? Thanks. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cloning Debian?
I have a working system, and want to clone it to a bigger, newer, faster
one, keeping the old one as a backup...
I looked at a lot of options, (Dolly, G4u, ...) including Cloneit, and
Partimage, but have trouble with both.
Cloneit; http://www.ferzkopp.net/Software/CloneIt/CloneIt.html
I find is very unreliable, it works for awhile, but the cloned image was no
good. It also only reports a very small %age of the actual size sent that
needs to be copied.
(I am running it from a SystemRecover CD -
http://systemrescuecd.sourceforge.net/download.en.html ).
Partimage; http://www.partimage.org/
I find that it works OK for local image save/restore, but for remote
("server") usage, it starts, then hangs. E.g. I have a 866 MB /usr, an it
reports it properly, starts, says it transferred 12MB to remote (image
save), and then hangs. Remote shows a 105MB .tmp file. Both sides are then
stuck, need to be "kill"ed. It is repeatable. Since it starts, I think it
should finish! :-)
Any ideas on remedies, or other /better ways to do a remote clone?
I've spent way too much time trying things that should work in a simple
manner!
I can't just do a remote NFS copy of the live (booted) partitions (I think).
Thanks.
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PP failure problem...
I love LRP so far, but we are having trouble getting it working. I tried it on three different systems, get the same repeatable error on each. (One has an eexpress card, the others 3c509) >>1) I get an error at boot time: >> >> SIOCADDRT : network unreachable. >> SIOCADDRT : network unreachable. >>right after the eexpress.o ethernet card driver/module is loaded. >>The card parameters are OK (same as Windows uses) > -- I have a full debian install, on the same machine, same cards, same setup, etc.., it does the same thing, and works fine. >>3) ** I also get errors: >>IPX support not present in the kernel >>/etc/portslave/server.cfg no such file or device >> >> these are logged in /var/log/user.log >> whenever I try to start pppd; >> the pppd command completes, logs these errors, and then is not running >>(even though I have passive, and -detach set). >> >> pppd options used are: >> asyncmap 0 >> crtscts local mru 552 mtu 552 lock -detach >> -ip local_ip:remote_ip <-- names from hosts file >> proxyarp >> passive defaultroute netmask 255.255.255.0 >> -- I am not running anything IPX. Since the same system runs regular Debian fine; something must be wrong with my LRP setup. I just re-downloaded everything, and still get the same thing. Any ideas appreciated. Greg Guthrie Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipforward'ing on in kernel?
We want to setup a local simple router-pair, to create a LAN-remote subnet segment. 1) To support this, we need routing enabled in the kernel. Does the default kernel on the 1.3.1 CDROM have this enabled? rrouter# uname -a Linux rrouter 2.0.30 #1 Sun Jun1 09:14:11 EST 1997 i586 rrouter# I thought we could tell by "cat /proc/ksyms | grep forward" : 00140988 ip_forward_R35268aee 0022ae04 sysctl_ip_forward_Ra7d20d83 Is this correct? seems to say yes; or do we have to rebuild a new kernel. 2) How do we tell what options are compiled into the Kernel? 3) I read: "The Slackware Linux kernel as shipped does NOT have IP FORWARDING enabled. So you can hook it up to the net, and use Linux directly on the net, but Linux won't pass packets through to your local Ethernet or what have you. There is no way to tell from the boot messages that this feature is on or off. The only way is to look at the config file for building the kernel in /usr/src/linux/.config and see what CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is set to. "grep FORWARD /usr/src/linux/.config" is the ideal command for this. CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y means it is turned ON # CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is not set means it is turned OFF The only way to enable this feature is to rebuild the kernel. What about Debian? On the CDROM (1.3.1), the .config file says: -- # # Networking options # # CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set # CONFIG_NET_ALIAS is not set CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is not set # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y CONFIG_RST_COOKIES=y # CONFIG_IP_ACCT is not set # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_ARPD is not set Does this correspond to the binary kernel distributed, or is it just a standard default spec for building new kernels? 4) We also need PPP procxyarp, is it on by default (curious about the ARPD not set). Thanks, Greg ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsgroup, instead of mail list?
Given the volume of traffic on this list, I would certainly find a newsgroup more convenient. 1) it maintains threads, and thus has MUCH better organization and access. 2) the linear, header and footer interspersed format of the digested list is very noisy, and hard to read. IMHO. Note that newsgroups can automatically accept Email inputs, and can also be list replicated. COmments? Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?
>I don't know about you folks, but my newserver (news.vt.edu) has the >group, but I've never seen a single message in it > >Am I broken? > -- Mine has 6 messages total; I get 10x that each day in the mail list! Situation? Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NT: boot to Linux?
NT provides a boot manager, with a startup option to boot to various OS's, clearly intended mainly for MSoft versions! Can this be used to provide a boot to a Linux partition? Thanks. Greg Guthrie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipforward'ing on in kernel?
[Since I got no answer last time, I am trying again on this query] The basic question is: is IP-forwarding on in the default kernel, and how does one tell, or does one have to build a custom kernel to do routing? -- In gereral, how does one tell if a feature is on in a kernel? Details: We want to setup a local simple router-pair, to create a LAN-remote subnet segment. 1) To support this, we need routing enabled in the kernel. Does the default kernel on the 1.3.1 CDROM have this enabled? rrouter# uname -a Linux rrouter 2.0.30 #1 Sun Jun1 09:14:11 EST 1997 i586 rrouter# I thought we could tell by "cat /proc/ksyms | grep forward" : 00140988 ip_forward_R35268aee 0022ae04 sysctl_ip_forward_Ra7d20d83 Is this correct? seems to say yes; or do we have to rebuild a new kernel. 2) How do we tell what options are compiled into the Kernel? 3) I read: "The Slackware Linux kernel as shipped does NOT have IP FORWARDING enabled. So you can hook it up to the net, and use Linux directly on the net, but Linux won't pass packets through to your local Ethernet or what have you. There is no way to tell from the boot messages that this feature is on or off. The only way is to look at the config file for building the kernel in /usr/src/linux/.config and see what CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is set to. "grep FORWARD /usr/src/linux/.config" is the ideal command for this. CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y means it is turned ON # CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is not set means it is turned OFF The only way to enable this feature is to rebuild the kernel. What about Debian? On the CDROM (1.3.1), the .config file says: -- # # Networking options # # CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set # CONFIG_NET_ALIAS is not set CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is not set # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y CONFIG_RST_COOKIES=y # CONFIG_IP_ACCT is not set # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_ARPD is not set Does this correspond to the binary kernel distributed, or is it just a standard default spec for building new kernels? 4) We also need PPP proxyarp, is it on by default (curious about the ARPD not set). Thanks, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipforward'ing on in kernel?
At 06:56 PM 5/29/98 +0200, Nils Rennebarth wrote: >> I thought we could tell by "cat /proc/ksyms | grep forward" : >> 00140988 ip_forward_R35268aee >> 0022ae04 sysctl_ip_forward_Ra7d20d83 >> >> Is this correct? seems to say yes; or do we have to rebuild a new kernel. >No, it is not. You do need a custom kernel. > >N.B: I do not know, why the above symbols are in /proc/ksyms. They are >present in mine also, although I know I do not have ip forwarding enabled. >Does anyone know a better test? -- I thought that this indicated that it was copmiled into the kernel, a different issue than if the feature is (run-time) enabled. Thanks. ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
low throughput on PPP link
Currently we are building two Debian boxes(2.0.30) running as routers with a PPP link in between. Things are mostly going fine except the link throughput. 56kbps is the best it gets while we are expecting over 100kbps since we are using the 16550A UART serial cards, trying for 115K.. Here's the details: == serial port settings = /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte Flags: spd_vhi skip_test session_lockout == ppp link settings pppd persist passive proxyarp /dev/ttyS0 57600 &(local) pppd persist passive defaultroute /dev/ttyS0 57600 &(remote) The reason why we didn't set the speed up to 115200 in pppd is that it will bring the link down! (while using Slackware doesn't have this situation) We were acknowledged that a combination of "setserial -b /dev/ttyS0 spd_vhi"and "pppd persist passive proxyarp /dev/ttyS0 38400 &" should achieve the full speed of 115200, yet the testing result we have is just slower that using 57600. Not any clue in Robert Hart's Linux PPP HOWTO, nor in "The Linux Serial HOWTO by Greg Hankins". Any pointer? Thanks in advance. Xiangyang Ha Xiangyang Ha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: low throughput on PPP link
At 05:59 PM 5/29/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: >Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You see, the >set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is selected. >However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify it. You're >specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting. -- Thanks. I guess that the conventions for pppd and setserial are different then. So, pppd accepts 115K, and manipulates the combination of baud rate and vhi appropriately? also, the reports of "seterial -a" and ifconfig differ, probably a similar difference in reporting terminology? > >> Currently we are building two Debian boxes(2.0.30) running as routers with a >> PPP link in between. Things are mostly going fine except the link throughput. >> 56kbps is the best it gets while we are expecting over 100kbps since we are >> using the 16550A UART serial cards. >> >> Here's the details: >> == serial port settings = >> /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 >> Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 >> closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte >> Flags: spd_vhi skip_test session_lockout >> >> We were acknowledged that a combination of >> "setserial -b /dev/ttyS0 spd_vhi"and >> "pppd persist passive proxyarp /dev/ttyS0 38400 &" >> will achieve the full speed >> of 115200, yet the testing result we have is just slower that using 57600. >> >> as per Robert Hart's Linux PPP HOWTO, nor in "The Linux Serial HOWTO >> by Greg Hankins". -- Shouldn't this (also) work? Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: low throughput on PPP link
At 09:35 AM 6/2/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
>> > >Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You
see, the
>> > >set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is
selected.
>> > >However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify
it. You're
>> > >specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting.
-- Does this mean;
1) setting 115200 is independent of any setting of {normal,hi,vhi}, or s
there an interaction, and thus only certain valid pairs.
2) Is the report of Baud-base rate from "seterial -a" the bottom line, it
says 115200 and normal.
lrouter# setserial -a /dev/ttyS0
/dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_normal skip_test session_lockout
But, "stty -a < /dev/ttyS0" says baud = 57600.
If so, I still wonder why we are only getting ~< 56K throughput..
Thanks.
Gregory Guthrie
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Boot to Linux from NT; problem
I setup my machine with NT and Linux, and followed the instructions in "NT Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO". As per their instructions* I used bootpart to make the NT loader adjustments. When I boot, indeed I get the option for Linux from the NT loader (boot.ini), which points to the boot file made by bootpart; but NT reports: \System32\ntoskrnl.exe missing or corrupt please reinstall a copy of this file. Well, the file is there in /winnt/system32/ Both NT and linux still boot and run fine, only that I can't get the NT to boot linux (I now boot it from a floppy). This is a new installation (yesterday), so I doubt it is corrupt. I am reluctant to do a reinstall of all of NT, and don't know how to refresh this single file. Help, or pointers? Thanks Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *at least as best I could.. Some of their instructions were not clear to me; "For Linux, you must install Lilo at the beginning of the Linux partition (as with OS/2 boot manager) and then add the Linux partition with BootPart: When you install Linux or run liloconfig, select "Superblock of the root linux partition" as location of Lilo. In my sample, this adds the line "boot=/dev/sdb4" on the file /etc/lilo.conf" -- I ran Lilo; with root and boot set to the partition of my linux. Is this all that is required here? ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot problems: PCI device(s) unrecognized..
When I boot, I get: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000f9a20 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xf04e0 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0510 Probing PCI hardware. Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7180). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7181). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (1023:9750). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7110). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7111). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7112). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7113). Please read include/linux/pci.h Warning : Unknown PCI device (10b7:9050). Please read include/linux/pci.h ALl the details from /proc/pci are below. The device is a 3Com 3c905 Ethernet card, which seems to load OK, 3c59x.c:v0.30-all 12/23/96 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3Com EtherLink III: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is 255. loading device 'eth0'... eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xd000, 00:60:08:68:65:9b, IRQ 11 Internal config register is 16302d8, transceivers 0xe040. 8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/MII interface. and runs fine! eth0: Initial media type MII. eth0: vortex_open() InternalConfig 016302d8. eth0: vortex_open() irq 11 media status 8802. eth0: Media selection timer tick happened, MII. eth0: Media MII is has no indication, 8802. eth0: Media selection timer finished, MII. It also looks like my AGP graphics board shows up as PCI, and a few other bridge devices. It is a new PII motherboard (Asus). AM I ok, or do I need to do something. Thanks for any information or pointers. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Ethernet controller: 3Com Unknown device (rev 0). Vendor id=10b7. Device id=9050. Medium devsel. IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=248. Min Gnt=3.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xd000. Bus 0, device 4, function 3: Bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7113. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Bus 0, device 4, function 2: USB Controller: Intel Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7112. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xd400. Bus 0, device 4, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7111. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xd800. Bus 0, device 4, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7110. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No bursts. Bus 1, device 1, function 0: VGA compatible controller: Trident Unknown device (rev 243). Vendor id=1023. Device id=9750. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe300. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe280. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe200. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 3). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7181. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=9. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x40010100. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x22a0d0e0. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3d0e200. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3f0e3f0. Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 3). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7180. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=64. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe400. ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot to Linux from NT; problem
At 02:28 PM 6/3/98 -0400, you wrote: Interesting, Testing on the suggestion about upper/lower case sensitivity, (which was not a problem here, the file and boot.ini agreed), I copied the file from my workspace on D:\...\bootfile.lin to C:\bootfile.lin, and it works! Apparently having it on another file system causes some confusion.. Thanks for all suggestions. Gregory Guthrie -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
library upgrade, required, but conflicts?
I an trying to install a new package (NTFS) which requires libc6; so I got the libc6 package, and tried to install it. Dselect reports that: NTFS depends on libc6, libc6 conflicts with lib5, libc5 is required by many-many other things, so it wants to uninstall a huge list of things. I have seen bunched of discussions on the list about library upgrades, but ignored them, as I was trying to make my life simple by sticking with the stable (1.0.31 CD) distribution. I did upgrade to the .30 kernel from the CDROM. Recommendations? Thanks, Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bridging?
I dselect'ed the bridge package from the standard distribution on CDROM, and run with the updated kernel (2.0.30). 1) when I run brcfg, it reports: ioctl failed; package not installed. -- Why?? 2) the man page discusses only Ethernet-ethernet bridging, -- will WAN bridging also work? en0--ppp <<>> ppp--en0 Thanks. Gregory Guthrie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian vs. W95 (was: Money where mouth...)
>> I think I can safely say that anyone who tells you Linux (any flavour) is >> as easy to set up as Win95 is pulling your leg. ... You >> can make it exactly how you like it, and nothing (much) is forced down >> your throat. -- I am trying to get some networking up on W95/NT, to do it on Debian took a few days, starting from a blank disk. W95/NT is still in process, and difficult, and uncertain of success. The main issue is that of "controllability and observability"; with W95 there is a hierarchy of pre-defined GUI interfaces to pre-defined functionalities. Often the details of their functions, or constraints, are not well defined (publically). I am trying to add a null-modem connection to a PPP link; I have point-and-clicked forever, tried to add new .inf files, etc.. to little avail. I have a pretty good understanding of he details, but their model of how to work these interfaces is fundamentally limited. On Unix, I have a set of text configuration files, fully observable, which I can see to know the full state of my configuration, save it, modify, revert, compare setups, etc.. Impossible with WIMP'y (WIndows, Mouse, Pointer) GUI's. Research has shown that these interfaces are great for casual users, but limit expert access. ANd the Registry concept; oh, don't get me started! Try to clone/move a program sub-system between MSoft systems; often impossible. An installation is distributed, with unrecorded side-effects, and shared tracks in the registry. Now, if only unix had MS Office! Best, Gregory Guthrie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #536
I just did an upgrade bo --> hamm using autoup.sh. Amazing. But, there are a number of steps which left me cold; and flipping a coinn for the right action. 1) during the autoup it had seeral "conflicts", adn it was not clear to me if I needed to do anything about them. E.g. I think it tried to remove something that depended on Perl, but I had perl installed, or something... "dependency problems .. libwww-perl depends on Perl, but perl is not installed. ... libnet Anyway, there was no clear indication if all was OK, if it was a comment, or if some remedial action was needed (later)., 2) After update, it says "now use dselect to upgrade the rest of your system", then reboot. ?? How do I know what to upgrade? I would like to say; "whatever needs an upgrade, if I have it installed, do it." Instead, I had to go through dselect, look at hundreds of packages, try to remember which I had selected, and decide if they need update. Am I missing something here? Greg Guthrie ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrade problems..
I just did an upgrade bo --> hamm using autoup.sh. Amazing. But, there are a number of steps which left me cold; and flipping a coin for the right action. 1) during the autoup it had several "conflicts", adn it was not clear to me if I needed to do anything about them. E.g. I think it tried to remove something that depended on Perl, but I had perl installed, or something... "dependency problems .. libwww-perl depends on Perl, but perl is not installed. ... libnet Anyway, there was no clear indication if all was OK, if it was a comment, or if some remedial action was needed (later)., 2) After update, it says "now use dselect to upgrade the rest of your system", then reboot. ?? How do I know what to upgrade? I would like to say; "whatever needs an upgrade, if I have it installed, do it." Instead, I had to go through dselect, look at hundreds of packages, try to remember which I had selected, and decide if they need update. Am I missing something here? 3) I find a lot of small changes, logs moved from (non-existent) /var/adm, pppd argument changes, ppp setup changes, etc.. is there a lost of the changes, structural and functional? Greg Guthrie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bo --> hamm upgrade..
I find a lot of small changes, logs moved from (non-existent) /var/adm, to /var/logs, pppd argument changes, ppp setup changes, etc.. It took a bit of fiddling to bet the system re-working. E.g. pppd now needs a "noauth" argument, files have moved, etc.. Is there a list of these changes, structural and functional? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Autoup Upgrade
Bob, Thanks for the clear and informative message. I think this should be included with the autoup.sh documentation, it certainly explains things not described there. Gregory Guthrie - At 10:53 PM 6/28/98 -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: >Hi, > During the upgrade, autoup.sh must remove several critical >packages in order to upgrade them i.e. in bo, perl is one package; in >hamm perl is provided by perl-base and perl. The hamm version of perl >depends on perl-base, but perl-base conflicts with the bo version of >perl. Therefore it is necessary to remove the bo version of perl. > > Since many packages depend upon perl, dpkg must deconfigure these >packages, then remove perl. It then installs perl-base and perl in >sequence and configures the packages that were unconfigured. >During that process, a number of alarming warning messages are >generated. > > If autoup.sh completes normally (displays a message saying you >now have a libc6 system, and discusses wtmp and utmp), all of these >warning messages may be ignored. > > When you enter dselect after autoup finishes, the best course of >action is to use the access, update and install modules - don't even >enter the select module. In that case all packages on your system >that have an upgraded version (almost all of them) are automatically >upgraded without any further action on your part. You are then free >to use the select function to add any package you might desire. Most >development libraries are removed by autoup.sh, and are not >automatically replaced. Autoup.sh creates a file >"removed-" in the current directory recording the >packages that were removed. This provides a guide to the packages >that should be reinstalled with dselect or manually with dpkg -i. > >Bob >-- _ > |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 > > >Gregory Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I just did an upgrade bo --> hamm using autoup.sh. >> >> Amazing. But, there are a number of steps which left me cold; and flipping >> a coinn for the right action. >> >> 1) during the autoup it had seeral "conflicts", adn it was not clear to me >> if I needed to do anything about them. E.g. I think it tried to remove >> something that depended on Perl, but I had perl installed, or something... >> "dependency problems .. libwww-perl depends on Perl, but perl is not >> installed. >> ... libnet >> >> Anyway, there was no clear indication if all was OK, if it was a comment, >> or if some remedial action was needed (later)., >> >> 2) After update, it says "now use dselect to upgrade the rest of your >> system", then reboot. >> >> ?? How do I know what to upgrade? I would like to say; "whatever needs an >> upgrade, if I have it installed, do it." >> Instead, I had to go through dselect, look at hundreds of packages, try to >> remember which I had selected, and decide if they need update. Am I missing >> something here? >> >> Greg Guthrie >> >> Dr. Gregory Guthrie >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 >>Computer Science Department >>College of Science and Technology >>Maharishi University of Management >> (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) >> >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade problems..
Bob, thanks for the information.. I wish this was in the autoup.sh documentation! Watching the recent traffic on upgrade problems, and issues makes me wonder.. One concluded that it isin't automatic, and you really have to know all the dependencies, that dselect will only have shallow knowledge of local dependencies. This raises the question, how much Unix expertise do you need to be able to live with Linux, Debian..? In fact, a lot of the dependencies are not Unix general, but specific to a particular environment, Emacs, man, troff, X11, etc... Are we at the simplest way? what is next? I know our Solaris system does not have any upgrades this complex. I am not sure how they manage their upgrades... Gregory Guthrie At 04:10 PM 7/9/98 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > >> I just did an upgrade bo --> hamm using autoup.sh. >> >> Amazing. But, there are a number of steps which left me cold; and flipping >> a coin for the right action. >> ... >Take a look at the autoup.sh script itself. It should give you >a fairly clear picture at what it is attempting to do and possibly the >means to understand what is happening here. > >You need to run ... >Then when you run . >At this point, you should probably run ... >You might have to run ... more than once to resolve things. ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
dselect questions, suggestion..
When running dselect (updating bo --> hamm), I get some items with a status of installed_version available_version - - - xxx xxx Why is there an installed version indicated, when it shows as not installed? -- It would be nice if 1) dselect would estimate the size of a package for a selection criteria; 2) if it shows a big list of dependency problems, you could just say "forget it", i.e. upt not for the package. Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
init file structures; changed in hamm?
I upgraded (bo--> hamm) and accidently selected teh sysvinit; and now my init packaging and strucutre is different; ppp setup names, etc.. I tried to unselect it and go back, but was told that cron, and a buch of other things required sysV init setup. I had cron installed before. Was ther a change in the init file strucutures, or is this change because I inadvertantly went to sysV, and if so, need I be there? (I don't like it because I also use LRP; which has the other init s tructure(s)) Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
2.0 beta --> final; how different?
How does Debian 2.0 Beta, and the 2.0 release differ. I just got my Beta CD 2 days ago; should I order the final release also? Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
RMON for linux?
We would like to create some LRP remote network traffic monitor boxes, queryable via SNMP; i.e. RMON probes. I thought I had once seen RMON for linux; but now cannot locate any such information. Hints? Thanks. Gregory Guthrie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
irqtune
I'm trying to fix a serial link speed problem; We are having speed problems over a serial PPP link, trying to realize the 115K capacity of the physical link. Using a commercial com server (Xyplex) I get 115K each way; replacing it with an small Linux (Debian LRP) I get about 70-90K max; and highly asymmetrical (testing via FTPs to local Suns). We have two 486's; 32M each, high speed Uarts (16550). We get bursts of fast throughput, so it doesn't seem physical (setserial, ...), but overall throughput is too low. Are there some "secrets" here that we should know? All routers and system used have MTU of 1500. Also, is there a way to query the ppp driver for its current configuration? We are looking for ways to analyse what is the cause of the slowdown; any recommended analysis methods? Thanks, Greg Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [please (also) reply via Email] Someone sugested to use "irqtune"; but I then saw this, which implies that that would not be needed, itis in the kernel; yes? --- On Sun, 01 Sep 1996 11:12:42 +0300 Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > In my never-ending battle to make the kernel behave well by default without > needing "irqtune" (which is very setup-specific, and as such not something > the kernel can do automatically), I was thinking of doing interrupt priority > rotations instead of the current fixed mode. Just to tell you that this patch gave me the same effect as irqtune did before: full serial speed. Actually, I applied the 2.0.17 patch which contained this small patch. I'm glad this thing's in the kernel now. --- ---- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management http://www.mum.edu/csdept
Creating small router systems
Our goal is to setup a number of small Debian systems, fairly small and simple, on old 486's to use as routers. These each have 8M memory, Ethernet, and a small hard disk; no CDROM. [We have a portable CDROM (Mountain), but couldn't find a Linux Driver for it] I want to confirm if I understand the easiest way to do this; 1) install base system from floppies; then install rest over network. -- Base system includes networking and FTP? -- Can we FTP from a CDROM on another local system? -- I presume it could it be a W95 FTP server? 2) physically move the target hard disk to a support system, and run the install process there, and then unplug and move back. -- Is the install in any way localized to the installing system? -- it would be a different disk position, different procesor (Pentium vs. 486) We tried #2, and had some odd problems, unsure of the origin. Thanks for any comments or suggestions. Gregory Guthrie Computer Science Department -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ppp setup issues..
Trying to get ppp setup; what is the relation of the /etc/ppp.options_out and /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX ? I presume that one is to either just edit options_out, which is used directly by /etc/init.d/ppp for the startup pppd options, or, change init.d/ppp to instead use /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX (XX changed appropriately) and set the options there. But, the /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX file(s) are in a more verbose format, with comments, multiple lines, etc.. which is not a valid format for use by pppd as used in init.d/ppp. ?? Is the options.ttyXX file just documentation, on how to create one line options_out like files? The header documentation there does not imply this. Thanks. Gregory Guthrie Computer Science -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp setup issues..
John, thanks for the information on ppp setup. At 11:01 PM 5/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >Gregory Guthrie writes: >> what is the relation of the /etc/ppp.options_out and >> /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX ? > >/etc/ppp.options_out is used by the 'pon' command and by init.d. >/etc/ppp/options.ttyXX is read by pppd when it is called with ttyXX as an >argument. It usually is not needed. -- Let me check; My system calls /etc/init.d/ppp, which seems to do the same general thing as /usr/bin/pon. The sequence would be (??) calls ppp-on, it calls pppd, which [automatically] consults ppp.options_out and then (if a ttyXX argument is present) options.ttyXX is consulted. My startup is the same, but ppp is called from init.d somehow. I presume that pon is a similar convenient interface for manual ppp startup. On my system (Debian), in init.d the ppp file calls pppd, with an explicit `cat /etc/ppp.options_out` [note backticks] for arguments. Clearly this command line argument usage does not accept the more verbose file and comments style of options. On the actual options used: What is the difference in using "-detach &" and just allowing the default "detach" Thanks for the information. > >> I presume that one is to either just edit options_out, which is used >> directly by /etc/init.d/ppp for the startup pppd options,... > >Yes. > >-- >John Hasler Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp setup issues..
John, thanks, very useful. I hope this all finds it's way into a FAQ; (before it changes!). Greg Gregory Guthrie writes: > My system calls /etc/init.d/ppp, which seems to do the same general thing > as /usr/bin/pon. Right. init calls /etc/init.d/ppp which calls pppd with appropriate options. pppd reads /etc/ppp/options, reads ~/.ppprc, scans the command line for a port name, reads /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX, and then interprets the command line options. In case of conflict the later option overrides the earlier. Thus /etc/ppp/options contains defaults that always apply unless overridden, ~/.ppprc contains options pertaining to the user running pppd, options.ttyXX contains options pertaining to the selected port, and the command line contains options pertaining to this particular connection. > On my system (Debian), in init.d the ppp file calls pppd, with an > explicit `cat /etc/ppp.options_out` [note backticks] for arguments. /etc/ppp.options_out is where you should put your local customizations. IMHO '-f /etc/ppp.options_out' should have been used so that the file could be commented. > What is the difference in using "-detach &"... '-detach' says don't go into the background. '&' says go into the background. The combination does nothing. Leave it out. Debian 2.0 will use pppd-2.3.3 and handle the options in a completely different and much better way. -- ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
loadlin problem
I have a partition on my W95 hard disk with Debian loaded; and I boot via a floppy. I want to switch to booting from W95/DOS; so I tried loadlin. Put it into a directory with Linux, root.bin), and tried it. loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin It won't work until one reboots into protected mode DOS first; unconvenient, but OK. (There are fast reboot tools for windows, seems like this would be a nicer way to go..) It boots, but then it wants to do setup, more like a rescue/setup disk that a boot disk. Is there a better way? Even then, When I ask it to mount an already initialized partition (option G), it lists partitions, but not the linux one. If I ask it to list all partitions, it shows the ext2 Linux partition, but the mount initialized partion doesn't list it. ?? Thanks. Greg Guthrie ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W95 access to Debian files..
I run a Debian partition as a second OS on my W95 disk. [also primary OS on several others!] The utility "fsdext2" is a real joy; it allows one to view (read-only) any Linux partitions, in case one has other important tools in their W95 environment. Many thanks to the author! Unfortunately it is pretty unstable, and locks up the machine regularly after only a short time. The author is not maintaining it anymore. It would sure be nice if there was a new version, or other options for this. Thanks for any pointers if such exists. Gregory Guthrie [ from: http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/ w/ source available! ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
setup help....
I am new to debian, and have a few questions. 1) boot reports SCSI: no device found (WD7000 SCSI Card). -- It is right(!), I have no scsi, and no scsi module in my /etc/modules. -- Why does it try to find one? is this OK?? 2) I find no man(1) command, and all the /usr/man/* pages are compressed, is some further installation step needed? 3) At boot I get a mesage: lp: no device found I have teh standard parallel port.. 4) I loaded from CDROM, and at boot it recognizes it; hdc: FX001DE, ATAPI CDROM Driver How do I mount it? I tried mount -t isofs -f /dev/hdc0 /cdrom and lots of variations, (-t msdos, hdc1, hdc, ...), the mount doesn't complain, but does not make the device useable. 5) How do I modify the initial setup, e.g. further devices, do I re-run the recovery disk? or run "dselect"? 6) How do I switch from a tty like interface to something... reasonable? 7) I see the FAQs on the CDROM, but they are not properly named, (although the trans.tbl knows this..), so I suspect they are there to be installed; how? 8) is there an archive of this mailing list? Thanks! I'm soure these are probably FAQ's, but I didn't (yet) find the relevant information. ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lp/ppa configuration; how to set to use printer?
I have a Zip drive on lp0, and at boot time it is recognized (een if no disk inserted), and then I cannot use lp0 to print. The lsmod reports ls module loaded, no ppa module reported. How can I disable ppa, and print? Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
XFree86 setup problems
I have XFree86 setup; but with some problems. First, the setup from dselect did not indicate that I neded any fonts to be loaded, and this (of course) caused failures. THis would be a good dependency to note! Also; the level of detail for Xsetup that requires refresh rates, dot-clock, chip set numbers, etc.. is horrendous! I have run several X-win servers under windows and Unix, and never had to try to input this level of detail.. I also have a common monitor (Gateway Vivitron 17"), I see only one Gateway in teh minitors list. The list is very sparse! - So, remaining issues: 1) when it boots, I get a big screen with the login prompt partially visible in the lower right; ^Atl+ reduces resolution so it mostly fits. login works, but I then get a non-workable screen (a hashed outline on a gray background). ^alt-^H kills it back to a login, I have to ^alt-F1 to get a workable console. I disabled the xdm startup now... Solutions? 2) I also find the mouse doesn't work; a standard MS 2-button mouse; how to diagnose the problem? Thanks for any help. ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XFree86 setup problems
Thanks, I installed the xserver-S3v server, since that is the chipset that my (S3 Virge) graphics card has; does it also have these features? Greg At 09:48 PM 1/8/98 +0200, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: >Hi, > >If you have not already installed xserver-vga16 package, please do so. With >the xserver-vga16 package comes a utility named XF86Setup which will make >configuring X much more easier. You probably do not want to use the VGA16 >server so answer 'no' when the installation script asks you if you want to >use VGA16 as your default server. > >The XF86Setup program also lets you to configure your mouse. > >I hope this helps, > >// Heikki -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?
I have a Microsoft PS/2 mouse, with a seperate port, not one of my serial ports. The XF86 config file points to /dev/mouse, which is a link to a serial port, but, my mouse is not on S0/S1. How should /dev/mouse be setup for this, in windows it is a separate port at IRQ 12. Thanks. Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Access Linux partition from W95?
I konw that I can mount W95 partitions from Linux; what aobut the inverse? Occasionally I am in windows, and want to examine, print, etc.. [So far, I only have MSOffice on Windows, not Linux! :-)] Thanks. Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
partitioning sizes (data:swap)?
I have a (Windows) system with a 400M disk chunk left for linux; I made it all a Linux ext2 partition, and choose no swap partition (48M RAM). Is this a good allocation of the 400M, or should I split it for some swap space, say 350/50 or whatever. Thanks. Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xfree: screen size?
I have gotten Xfree86 setup, and OK so far(!), but on my 17" screen, I have an unused margin of about 1" all around, wasted active screen area! -- what configuration parameter do I have not-perfect? (I have a S3-V card, Gateway Vivatron 17" monitor, and using the -S3v driver) -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Updates from non-debian sites? Release numbers..
1) I often see that the latest and greatest version of some package (e.g. XFree86) should always be used, and to get it from that particular home site. Is this compatible with running Debian; or must/should one wait till there is a Debian package with that version of the particular program. 2) How does one correllate release and version numbers; e.g. Debian 1.3.1 is kernel 2.0.30, but ther is also newer kernel source around (The linux Router package is Debian 2.0.32). Is the source code at the Debian site newer than the binary releases there? I am not clear on the update process and compatibility. I just got a CDROM with 1.1.3, is it old already! :-) Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Monitor Specs for Xfree86
Gateway informs me that my GW2000 Vivitron 17" monitor is Hscan = 30-64 Vscan = 50-100 dot-pitch = .26 but that they have never heard of dot-clock. I haden't either. :-) I looked at some of the monitors pages at Xfree86, and they also don't list this. Any hints on what else to ask, or determine it? -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Cloning a Debian system
I have setup a small Debian Linux system as a router, is there an easy way to "clone" this? I.e. to create copies of it on similar machines. Ee need them in pairs for WAN links between segments (EN-PPP-EN). E.g. a small boot to an LRP* or recovery disk, and a tftp, or, ? Now we have to take disks to a system with a CDROM, or move a CDROM around, etc.. ich! Thanks. --- *http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Cloning a Debian system
>» I have setup a small Debian Linux system as a router, is there an easy way >» to "clone" this? I.e. to create copies of it on similar machines. We need >» them in pairs for WAN links between segments (EN-PPP-EN). >» >» E.g. a small boot to an LRP* or recovery disk, and a tftp, or, ? >» >» Now we have to take disks to a system with a CDROM, or move a CDROM around, >» etc.. ich! -- I should have been more explicit; The target systems are small 486's with nothing but a NIC Ethernet card, floppy, and small Hard-disk. I got lots of replies about dd/backup/tar .. etc, but the point here is I want to do it over the network. Floppys are too small, and there is no other transportable media on the target. I was thinking of something like a boot/recovery disk to tftp the whole thing, or a boot disk with NFS, or with (rsh source "tar cvf / -" | tar xvf -), or... I can play with it, but thought someone might already have a proven solution. -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian learning curve
1) Recently someone said regarding all the setup differences: "after all,
linux is linux". I disagree, the networking files, setup files, PPP files,
etc... are all notably different; similar but different.
This is like the differences between AT&T/UCB unix. Yes, they are/were
both Unix, but... I wonder why it is necessary/useful to have so many
differences in the linux variations. Some are natural evolution/selection,
others seem gratitutious. Just as in the traditional Unix world, someday
there may come a time when convergence of the threads will be useful.
2) It was also noted that:
"Newbies also tend to install too much in the initial dselect menu
causing a lot of time in conflict resolution."
One good solution to this is used in most Windows packages; a set of
standard {minimal, nominal, everything} installation configurations, and a
custom option. I am not a dpkg expert, but would guess that this would not
be too hard.
Best.
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I want to use a small Linux system for a print spooler and manager; having seen some related information here, I pose two questions, 1) How do I setup for control of a remote HP Jet-direct network box, with HP-LaserJet printers on it? -- Can I setup the network box to only accept jobs from the spooler? 2) How can I do printer control; i.e. control adn account for printer usage; I would like a quota per usage, and the ability to monitor usage by users. Users would spool to the system using LPD protocol from PCs. I assume that this requires accounts on the spooler machine? Thanks for any pointers or information. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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how add NIC module?
Somehow in setting up a new system from CDROM, the module for the NIC was not added, so there is no eth0 configured. I have a DLINK DFE530TX which is listed on the supported linux hardware list,. How do I locate and install the required driver /module. I looked at the Debian site, in modules, but couldn't find it, and there is no search there. Thanks. Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
NIC problem w/ de4x5 for DLINK PCI, missing "lspci"
I want to use a DLINK DFE530CT pci ethernet card, and some references say it uses the de4x5, or tulip drivers, but when I try to use them, I get "init_module: device or resource busy" I also get prior to that, when starting to load modules, and evaluation module dependencies, "lspci not found". I looked at Debian.org but couldn't find any lspci. Help please.. :-) Gregory -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: NIC problem w/ de4x5 for DLINK PCI, missing "lspci"
Thanks, I do have it installed, but at boot still reports not found, and a locate does not find it. I am running Debian 2.1r4, but it reports 2.0.36, so perhaps I need a newer kernel? [how to get it?] I am surprised that if lspci is needed at boot, the kernel (or system) does not have it, how did I get such an inconsistent configuration? Thanks for the help, I find that the many steps to get a new install to just work with "little" issues like this is a major source of time spent on Debian for me. Most all of them end up being configuration /version problems. This is a clean install, by the book, but it fails for a missing component, which requires a newer kernel, thus source and make, and ... Gregory At 11:43 PM 06/21/2000 -0400, Alec Smith wrote: I believe the lspci utility is included in a .deb called pciutils in Debian. Also, be sure to use a fairly recent kernel. There's been a lot of work done on Tulip since the 2.0.x/early 2.2.x days. On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > I want to use a DLINK DFE530CT pci ethernet card, and some references say > it uses the de4x5, or tulip drivers, > > but when I try to use them, I get >"init_module: device or resource busy" > > I also get prior to that, when starting to load modules, and evaluation > module dependencies, >"lspci not found". > > Help please.. :-) > ---- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: missing "lspci"
Thanks, still trying to get lspci installed; I looked again, and I did install it, but, .. dpkg reports a status of: install ok not-installed and then locate doesn't (of course) find it on the system. I re-ran (several times dselect, and it didn't complain, but didn't install. ?? Gregory At 11:43 PM 06/21/2000 -0400, Alec Smith wrote: I believe the lspci utility is included in a .deb called pciutils in Debian. Also, be sure to use a fairly recent kernel. There's been a lot of work done on Tulip since the 2.0.x/early 2.2.x days. On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > I also get prior to that, when starting to load modules, and evaluation > module dependencies, >"lspci not found". > ------------ Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Java support? (apache + tomcat)
I want to run current java tools, and don't find any in the modules that dselect shows.. I did get apache, but are: jserv, tomcat, jdk, jwsdk, ... available? Also, is there an easy way to ask apt-get what it knows is available? like "dpks -S" ? Thanks. Gregory -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
apache + tomcat ..?
I installed apache via apt-get, and trying to use it with mod_jserv.o from tomcat gives an error: Cannot load mod_jserrv.o into server, Error: file's Phentsize is not the expected. Debian Apache seems bto be 1.3. Any way to tell what options it was made with? Any ideas on the incompatibility? Thanks, Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: apache + tomcat ..?
At 11:31 AM 06/27/2000 +0200, you wrote: just do a httpd -v for getting the version. If u are using 2.0 tomcat will not work there. U need 1.3.X (better 1.3.12) Let me know if u wanna a pre-compiled version. -- yes please. I have 1.3.3 and 1.3.13 (from apache) I wanted to remove the Debian one, to use the newer one I installed manually, but a lot of utilities depend on it (dwww, ...). So, I run the debian one. How to best upgrade and still stay within the Debian structure? Thanks. Gregory At 13.07 26/6/00 -0500, you wrote: I installed apache via apt-get, and trying to use it with mod_jserv.o from tomcat gives an error: Cannot load mod_jserrv.o into server, Error: file's Phentsize is not the expected. Debian Apache seems bto be 1.3. Any way to tell what options it was made with? Any ideas on the incompatibility? Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Printing of Email attachments??
This is not Debian specific, but I want to setup an automatic Email and attachment printing system; whereby all email sent to a special address is printed including all attachments. The basic need is to handle incoming applications with several (usually graphic) attachments for transcripts, recommendations, etc. e.g. alias:emailPrint "|emailprinter" This is of course easy for the message alone, but is there an easy way to also print all attachments? For each email sent to this address, I'd like the body as the cover page, and then all attachments. I am not familiar with what is available to separate and decode and handle MIME multi-part documents on linux. Thanks for any pointers or ideas. Gregory -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Java support? (apache + tomcat)
At 03:32 PM 06/27/2000 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
I know jserv is available, because I have it (1.1-3). I installed the jdk
myself
because I wanted 1.2.2. Are you running potato or slink? (I'm running potato).
-- slink,
and :
alpha{root}.43: apt-get install jserv
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package jserv
and...
E: Couldn't find package jdk
E: Couldn't find package jsdk
> I want to run current java tools, and don't find any in the modules that
> dselect shows..
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Re: Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716
look at the compaq web site, it has online manuals for almost all machines. Typically for compaq, it boots, tests memory, beeps twice, puts the cursor into the upper right hand corner, and at that time you should press F10 to enter BIOS. Also, most compaqs w/in the last 5 years will boot to CDrom, so just put a bootable debian disk in and try it, it is an effortless way to install! Greg At 01:49 PM 06/30/2000 +0200, you wrote: It is a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716. The problem is that this machine shows a big red Q at startup and no BIOS info. I therefore do not know which keys to press to access the BIOS in order to turn on CD-ROM booting. It currently boots from floppy first before hard disc. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
apache.. how to keep newer verison than that of Debvian apt-get
I had installed apache from Their site, version 1.3.12, and then wanted to install some Debian www based utilities (dwww), and so had apt-get install apache, it installed version 1.3.3, and to a different place, and name (httpd/apache). Is there any way to overlay the debian version with the newer one, still having debian package system stay happy, knowing that apache is installed? Also, is tomcat included in the newer (potato) release? Thanks, Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: are apt/sources.list http: and ftp: same?
At 10:26 PM 01/31/2001 -0600, will trillich wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 11:08:56AM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > >as for the server end of the arrangement, they may be the same > >identical file, or they may be served from servers located in > >different countries. > > -- The original question was not of performance, but functionality. I > reported that http: lines to the woody were not finding known items, but > simply changing it to ftp: fixed it. I think this is a bug, unless I am > missing something. just like on your web browser: sometimes, changing http://server.name.here/and/a/path/too to ftp://server.name.here/and/a/path/too works -- but it's most likely to be coincidence (docroot for ftp is not likely to be the same as docroot for http, in most cases). -- Hmm, interesting. So, when I look at packages.debian.org/stable does this document only the http: sites, and if so, where (if anywhere) is the description of ftp site contents? Seems like it is a natural assumption (IMHO) that these are two different access methods, to what should appear to the user as identical archives. Else, this should be documented somewhere! Thanks, Gregory ------------ Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Java JSP Tomcat
Why does Debian provide (only) GnuJsp, Tomcat is the standard reference implementation now. Is it easy to change to use Tomcat? Should I just do it, or wait, is anything coming? I want the standard JSP directory structures, and a guaranteed standard implementation. Thanks, Gregory Guthrie Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: Java JSP Tomcat
I saw it listed in the Debian/Java FAQ page as something which might be soon included (March 2000). Greg At 10:58 PM 10/17/2000 -0700, Aaron Brashears wrote: Well, I've noticed that Tomcat is not listed in the work-needing and prospective packages ( http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ ) - so if you'd like to pick it up, I'd be happy to see that. :) I'm trying to figure out how to build debs right now, because I develop using jde (which needs a maintainer) for tomcat/cocoon. yes, be nice to be able to track Java development tools better. Gregory Guthrie wrote: > > Why does Debian provide (only) GnuJsp, Tomcat is the standard reference > implementation now. > > Is it easy to change to use Tomcat? Should I just do it, or wait, is > anything coming? > I want the standard JSP directory structures, and a guaranteed standard > implementation. > ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
gnujsp errors
I did a clean install with apache+jserv+gnujsp, and servlets work fine, but the test file(s) like Hello.jsp fail, with the error: Error compiling source file: file:/var/www/jsp/examples/hello.jsp sun/tools/javac/Main Any help appreciated. Sincerely, Gregory Guthrie Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: Java JSP Tomcat
At 11:59 AM 10/19/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: The package is already availabe at http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/. Please read README.Debian and the Debian-Java mailing list archive for reasons why it's not yet in the official Debian archive. - I tried to install it, and get a lot of unresolved packages. I can get the IBM package at IBM(!), but the others show up as missing. Solution? Thanks, Gregory - omega:/s/new# lynx http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/ Info for debian package '/tmp//uWV9kR/L17393-6120TMP.deb': new debian package, version 2.0. size 799500 bytes: control archive= 2954 bytes. 117 bytes, 5 lines conffiles 738 bytes,17 lines control 4510 bytes,58 lines md5sums 387 bytes,12 lines * postinst #!/bin/sh 495 bytes,24 lines * postrm #!/bin/sh 288 bytes, 9 lines * prerm#!/bin/sh Package: tomcat Version: 3.1.99b6-1 Section: contrib/web Priority: optional Architecture: all Depends: jdk1.1-dev | ibm-jdk1.1-installer | j2sdk1.3, libxerces-java, libservlet2.2-java Installed-Size: 1171 Maintainer: Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: Java Servlet 2.2 engine with JSP 1.1 support Jakarta-Tomcat is the reference implementation for the Java Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages (JSP) 1.1 specification from the Apache Jakarta project. . For more information about Tomcat please take a look at the Tomcat home page at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html. . The official Servet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications can be found at http://java.sun.com/products/servlets and http://java.sun.com/products/jsp. Do you wish to install this package now? (y/n) -->y Installing package... Selecting previously deselected package tomcat. (Reading database ... 25526 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking tomcat (from .../tmp//uWV9kR/L17393-6120TMP.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tomcat: tomcat depends on jdk1.1-dev | ibm-jdk1.1-installer | j2sdk1.3; however: Package jdk1.1-dev is not installed. Package ibm-jdk1.1-installer is not installed. Package j2sdk1.3 is not installed. tomcat depends on libxerces-java; however: Package libxerces-java is not installed. tomcat depends on libservlet2.2-java; however: Package libservlet2.2-java is not installed. dpkg: error processing tomcat (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: tomcat Done. Press to continue: -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: Java JSP Tomcat
At 11:59 AM 10/19/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: The package is already availabe at http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/. Please read README.Debian and the Debian-Java mailing list archive for reasons why it's not yet in the official Debian archive. I'm still stuck on installing this; tomcat depends on libxerces-java libxerces-java does not appear to be available tomcat depends on libservlet2.2-java libservlet2.2-java does not appear to be available Help? Greg - omega:/tmp# apt-cache show tomcat Package: tomcat Status: deinstall ok config-files Priority: optional Section: contrib/web Installed-Size: 1171 Maintainer: Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 3.1.99b6-1 Depends: jdk1.1-dev | ibm-jdk1.1-installer | j2sdk1.3, libxerces-java, libservlet2.2-java Conffiles: /etc/init.d/tomcat newconffile /etc/tomcat/server.xml newconffile /etc/tomcat/web.xml newconffile /etc/tomcat/tomcat-users.xml newconffile /etc/tomcat/tomcat.policy newconffile Description: Java Servlet 2.2 engine with JSP 1.1 support Jakarta-Tomcat is the reference implementation for the Java Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages (JSP) 1.1 specification from the Apache Jakarta project. . For more information about Tomcat please take a look at the Tomcat home page at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html. . The official Servet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications can be found at http://java.sun.com/products/servlets and http://java.sun.com/products/jsp. omega:/tmp# -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: Java JSP Tomcat
I am running kernelversion 2.2, from CDrom install. I added an unstable ftp line to the apt/sources.list, and it did then find these two packages. apt-cache search tomcat still failed, but dselect still knew about it, so I had dselect install it. Unfortunately dselect also notices a lot of other things it was interested in (I presume from the added unstable line), and downloaded 170 packages, 89MB of stuff! I am not sure but I guess that dselect and apt share the same database, so telling apt about unstable meant dselect would also use it. Any way to have just gotten one thing from unstable? Anyway, it is now crunching away installing 170 new packages... Now it seems willing to try to install apache, but gets errors: Syntax error on line 133 of /etc/apache/srm.conf: Invalid command 'AddDefaultCharsetName', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration /usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started dpkg: error processing jserv (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3 Errors were encountered while processing: jserv I find that chasing this through the debian packages is such a problem and time waste, straight installs from Sun are easier, but that leads to arguments with the package system on what is really installed, where, etc. Argh! Thanks for the help, Greg At 05:11 PM 10/20/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > At 11:59 AM 10/19/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > > >The package is already availabe at http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/. > >Please read README.Debian and the Debian-Java mailing list archive for > >reasons why it's not yet in the official Debian archive. > > I'm still stuck on installing this; > > tomcat depends on libxerces-java > libxerces-java does not appear to be available > tomcat depends on libservlet2.2-java > libservlet2.2-java does not appear to be available What's your /etc/apt/sources.list look like. xerces and servlet2.2 are potato/woody packages. Are you still running slink ? Stefan, what's your thoughts ? Cheers, M. -- . ,,$, Marcus Crafter ;$' ': Computer Systems Engineer $: : Open Software Associates GmbH $ o_)$$$: 82-84 Mainzer Landstrasse ;$, _/\ &&:' 60327 Frankfurt Germany ' /( &&& \_&&&&' Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] &&&&. Business Hours : +49 69 9757 200 &&&&&&&: After Hours : +49 69 49086750 Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Help, caught in apt/dselect treadmill; trying to install Tomcat
I am running kernelversion 2.2, from CDrom install. I did the simple configuration, and even then it had a list of about 16-18 install problems, unresolved dependencies. I ran install again, more resolved. I wanted to get tomcat, so grabbed it from: http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/, but: > tomcat depends on libxerces-java > libxerces-java does not appear to be available > tomcat depends on libservlet2.2-java > libservlet2.2-java does not appear to be available So it required some unstable packages, so I added an unstable ftp source to my apt/source.list, and it did indeed find the two required packages, but also about 189 (90MB) of other stuff. -- (Any way to have just gotten the one desired thing from unstable?) Then it had dependency problems, and did a few other iterations of update, and install. Syntax error on line 133 of /etc/apache/srm.conf: Invalid command 'AddDefaultCharsetName', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration /usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started dpkg: error processing jserv (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3 Errors were encountered while processing: jserv Apache had a bad option line in srm.conf, so I had to manually delete it, then apache installed. Now, two more items show up missing: Get:1 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libcapplet0 1:1.2.2-4 [15.4kB] Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libcapplet0 1:1.2.2-4 Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libcapplet0_1.2.2-4.deb: No such file or directory. ' Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libcapplet0_1.2.2-4.deb Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libcapplet0_1.2.2-4.deb: No such file or directory. ' E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing? 1) What should I do? 2) Why is Debian install so messy? This is a clean install, and even before getting into Tomcat, I got several unresolved dependencies. Thanks for any guidance! Gregory Guthrie - === /etc/apt/sources.list # first get from (local) CDrom deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-3 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main # look-through to the main archives? #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/stable-updates # I (also) want to get some unstable things.. (tomcat) #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/unstable-updates deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free ------------ Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103
Remote X-servers with DHCP, how to authenticate?
I am trying to access my Debian system from a MSWindows X-server client. When I connect it wants to check who I am, so it uses an entry in /etc/hosts to check me. Now I have changed to DHCP for my client, so I no longer have a fixed IP address to put there. It sends an error "Where are you?" What to do? Thanks, Gregory Guthrie -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Help, caught in apt/dselect treadmill; trying to install Tomcat
At 10:27 PM 10/20/2000 -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: begin Gregory Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) quotation (Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:46:23PM -0500): > I am running kernelversion 2.2, from CDrom install. I did the simple > configuration, and even then it had a list of about 16-18 install problems, > unresolved dependencies. I ran install again, more resolved. > > I wanted to get tomcat, so grabbed it from: > http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/, but: > > So it required some unstable packages, so I added an unstable ftp source to > my apt/source.list, and it did indeed find the two required packages, but > also about 189 (90MB) of other stuff. > -- (Any way to have just gotten the one desired thing from unstable?) The simplest solution is just copy down the desired .deb and install it via dpkg: dpkg -i somefile.deb ...you'll get some funkyness in your package lists (basically, you've installed a package for which there isn't sufficient metadata), but generally there's no permanent harm done. -- I find that these complications and hack's w.r.t. packages take up about 90% of my time in using Debian. What you've done instead is to step onto the Woody distribution wagon. You're going to be upgrading on unstable from here on out. You may not have wanted to do that. -- Hmm, any way to get off the treadmill? Would it make sense to have a series of named levels, v.s. just a generic "unstable" that is always unstable? What IF one just wants to go one level ahead, say to Woody, but not always be on the bleeding edge? Is there a named link to the *current* unstable, v.s. the generic always next-thing name? Thanks, Greg Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Help, caught in apt/dselect treadmill; trying to install Tomcat
At 10:27 PM 10/20/2000 -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > So it required some unstable packages, so I added an unstable ftp source to > my apt/source.list, and it did indeed find the two required packages, but > also about 189 (90MB) of other stuff. > -- (Any way to have just gotten the one desired thing from unstable?) The simplest solution is just copy down the desired .deb and install it via dpkg: dpkg -i somefile.deb ...you'll get some funkyness in your package lists (basically, you've installed a package for which there isn't sufficient metadata), but generally there's no permanent harm done. -- I may start over and try this. What you've done instead is to step onto the Woody distribution wagon. You're going to be upgrading on unstable from here on out. You may not have wanted to do that. > Now, two more items show up missing: > > Get:1 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libcapplet0 1:1.2.2-4 [15.4kB] > Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libcapplet0 1:1.2.2-4 >Unable to fetch file, server said > '/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libcapplet0_1.2.2-4.deb: No such > file or directory. ' > Failed to fetch > ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libcapplet0_1.2.2-4.deb >Unable to fetch file, server said > '/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libcapplet0_1.2.2-4.deb: No such > file or directory. ' > > E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing? > > > 1) What should I do? First try to refresh your package lists. Note that these are *unstable* -- first, the list(s) may have been updated since last you checked. -- I did the update step in dselect twice. Are these really missing? or just the dependencies broken? Should I also include the ftp stable in my source.lists? There are a few candidates; but "just" at different revision levels: stable 24% libcapplet0 1.0.51-4 (14.3k) Library for Gnome Control Center applets unstable 24% libcapplet0 1:1.2.2-5 (15.1k) Library for Gnome Control Center applets Second, you're upgrading on an unstable track. Again, do you really want this? -- no; any recovery path? Have you checked RedHat lately? -- no, but Depending on what you're installing and when, it's possible to get tangled up in dependency issues. Generally, my recommendation is to take it slowly and update or install a few packages at a time. It's the one swell foop manuvers which get you into trouble. -- yes, but I didn't find anywhere how to do that, and as you describe above, it seems that it is not really supported. Thanks, Greg Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: Java JSP Tomcat
At 05:11 PM 10/20/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > At 11:59 AM 10/19/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > > >The package is already availabe at http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/. -- I think I got it installed; had to go to IBM for one missing package, then access unstable to get the two other missing packages, then re-ftp the remote .deb to re-install. The package database remembered it, but not enough to install it(?!). It would be nice if there was a short writeup of this, what to get from IBM, what other packages needed pre-install, how to get them without converting your entire system to unstable, etc... I'd write it, but I am not yet successful, and don't really understand the vagaries of the package system. Anyway, everything seems to be here, but two questions; 1) How to test it? 2) there seem to be two webapps directories, which is the real one!. /usr/share/java/webapps /usr/share/java/webapps/admin.war /usr/share/java/webapps/examples.war /usr/share/java/webapps/ROOT.war /usr/share/tomcat/webapps -> var/lib/tomcat/webapps Thanks, Gregory -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
upgrade; change from unstable to specific distribution?
I added unstable to my apt/sources.list, but want to restrict so that I am upgrading to the current new distribution only (I needed a specific package), and not always the b-leading edge. Can I just chane from unstable to "woody" in teh list? Thanks, Gregory Guthrie -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Java JSP Tomcat
Marcus, thanks for the note. I did un-install jserv, and I guess that tomcat is running, someone serves my pages for me! But I still think I should be able to run their examples, but can't. They have an examples.war, but I don't yet know the browser path mapped to it. I went into /usr/share/tomcat/bin/tomcat.s and ran ./tomcat.sh run and got a lot of errors; see below. Any hints? Seems like what I'm doing should be rather simple, but ... Thanks, Greg omega:/usr/share/tomcat/bin# ./tomcat.sh run Guessing TOMCAT_HOME from tomcat.sh to ./.. Setting TOMCAT_HOME to ./.. Using classpath: .:./../lib/servlet.jar:./../lib/tomcat.jar:./../lib/xerces.jar org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.InvalidDatatypeFacetException: [exception was kaffe.util.SupportDisabled: GNU gmp was not found by Kaffe configure script] at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Throwable.java:native) at java.lang.Throwable.(Throwable.java:38) at java.lang.Exception.(Exception.java:24) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.XMLException.(XMLException.java:line unknown, pc 0x83edb81) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.InvalidDatatypeFacetException.(InvalidDatatypeFacetException.java:line unknown, pc 0x851108a) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.createDatatypeValidator(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x83491f2) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.createDatatypeValidator(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x839bdfe) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.initializeRegistry(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x83a71a7) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x8337fca) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x838826e) at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.(XMLParser.java:line unknown, pc 0x8339456) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.(SAXParser.java:line unknown, pc 0x82ad68a) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserImpl.(SAXParserImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x82c50ba) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserFactoryImpl.newSAXParser(SAXParserFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x82ad1ae) at org.apache.tomcat.util.xml.XmlMapper.readXml(XmlMapper.java:213) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java:189) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java:237) 2000-10-30 08:07:50 - ContextManager: Adding context Ctx( /examples ) 2000-10-30 08:07:51 - ContextManager: Adding context Ctx( /admin ) Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages No apps in webapps/ 2000-10-30 08:07:59 - PoolTcpConnector: Starting HttpConnectionHandler on 8081 At 11:47 AM 10/26/2000 +0200, you wrote: Hi Gregory, Sorry for the late reply, I've just returned from London from the ApacheCon conference. I noticed in a previous email that you had problems with jserv. Tomcat and Jserv are incompatible, so de-install jserv from your system before trying to use Tomcat. To test it, check out the samples. At jakarta.apache.org there is information about what to try and a troubleshooting information. Also check the tomcat-user archives (again, have a look at jakarta.apache.org for more info). On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > 1) How to test it? > > 2) there seem to be two webapps directories, which is the real one!. > /usr/share/java/webapps > /usr/share/java/webapps/admin.war > /usr/share/java/webapps/examples.war > /usr/share/java/webapps/ROOT.war > /usr/share/tomcat/webapps -> var/lib/tomcat/webapps This is a question I don't know the answer to as I didn't create the package. I'm downloading the package now and will have a look at it. It's probably best to ask the package maintainer directly (Stefan), or send a mail to debian-java and see if they know there. I'm still catching up! :-) Cheers, Marcus -- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103
Trouble installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux
I installed tomcat on my Debian Linux system from Apache runs fine, but I have tomcat problems. 1) How do I test it with their examples? There is a webapps/examples.war; how do I invoke it? 2) Do I have to manually start it (per the Install "how to run" instructions?), or shouldn't it be automatically started as needed by Apache, like Jserv. There is a /etc/init.d/tomcat, so why manually start? -- I want to run with Apache. 3) I tried to look at examples.war, "jar -vft examples.jar", but it fails (see below), yet the startup (more below) seems to have successfully loaded them? omega:/usr/share/java/webapps# jar vft examples.war java.io.IOException: CRC of 0 is not valid in a DATA header at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Throwable.java:native) at java.lang.Throwable.(Throwable.java:38) at java.lang.Exception.(Exception.java:24) at java.io.IOException.(IOException.java:25) at java.util.zip.ZipInputStream.closeEntry(ZipInputStream.java:137) at kaffe.tools.jar.Jar.listFilesInJar(Jar.java:605) at kaffe.tools.jar.Jar.processJar(Jar.java:402) at kaffe.tools.jar.Jar.start(Jar.java:60) at kaffe.tools.jar.Jar.main(Jar.java:39) 4) I went into /usr/share/tomcat/bin/tomcat and ran "./tomcat.sh run", but got lots of errors (see below) which I didn't get the gist of. (I do have libgmp2 installed). One concern in that the startup file (init.d/tomcat) says: "# Look for the right JVM to use - Tomcat does not work with Kaffe!" but the error below reports Kaffe, and indeed: omega:/etc/init.d# java !$ java -version Kaffe Virtual Machine Copyright (c) 1996-2000 Transvirtual Technologies, Inc. All rights reserved Engine: Just-in-time v3 Version: 1.0.6 Java Version: 1.1 In any case I never get any errors in tomcat.log (which in fact does not exist!) Thanks for any help. Gregory ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I am running Debian Linux 2.2 w/ http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/ (tomcat Version: 3.1.99b6-1) ibm-jdk1.1 (1.18) [ibm-jdk-l118-linux-x86.tgz] ibm-jre1.1 (1.18) [ibm-jre-l118-linux-x86.tgz] omega:/usr/share/tomcat/bin# ./tomcat.sh run Guessing TOMCAT_HOME from tomcat.sh to ./.. Setting TOMCAT_HOME to ./.. Using classpath: .:./../lib/servlet.jar:./../lib/tomcat.jar:./../lib/xerces.jar org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.InvalidDatatypeFacetException: [exception was kaffe.util.SupportDisabled: GNU gmp was not found by Kaffe configure script] at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Throwable.java:native) at java.lang.Throwable.(Throwable.java:38) at java.lang.Exception.(Exception.java:24) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.XMLException.(XMLException.java:line unknown, pc 0x83edb81) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.InvalidDatatypeFacetException.(InvalidDatatypeFacetException.java:line unknown, pc 0x851108a) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.createDatatypeValidator(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x83491f2) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.createDatatypeValidator(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x839bdfe) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.initializeRegistry(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x83a71a7) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x8337fca) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x838826e) at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.(XMLParser.java:line unknown, pc 0x8339456) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.(SAXParser.java:line unknown, pc 0x82ad68a) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserImpl.(SAXParserImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x82c50ba) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserFactoryImpl.newSAXParser(SAXParserFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x82ad1ae) at org.apache.tomcat.util.xml.XmlMapper.readXml(XmlMapper.java:213) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java:189) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java:237) 2000-10-30 08:07:50 - ContextManager: Adding context Ctx( /examples ) 2000-10-30 08:07:51 - ContextManager: Adding context Ctx( /admin ) Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages No apps in webapps/ 2000-10-30 08:07:59 - PoolTcpConnector: Starting HttpConnectionHandler on 8081 ------------ Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103
unstable ==? woody
Can I change my /etc/apt/sources.list from: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free to deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free and it will be the same for now, but after the next release, I will then be in stable, instead of always on unstable? Thanks, Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Trouble installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux
toryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x8337fca) at org.apache.xerces.validators.datatype.DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.(DatatypeValidatorFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x838826e) at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.(XMLParser.java:line unknown, pc 0x8339456) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.(SAXParser.java:line unknown, pc 0x82ad68a) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserImpl.(SAXParserImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x82c50ba) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserFactoryImpl.newSAXParser(SAXParserFactoryImpl.java:line unknown, pc 0x82ad1ae) at org.apache.tomcat.util.xml.XmlMapper.readXml(XmlMapper.java:213) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java:189) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java:237) 2000-10-30 08:07:50 - ContextManager: Adding context Ctx( /examples ) 2000-10-30 08:07:51 - ContextManager: Adding context Ctx( /admin ) Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages No apps in webapps/ 2000-10-30 08:07:59 - PoolTcpConnector: Starting HttpConnectionHandler on 8081 -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103 -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103
Re: Trouble installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux
Thanks for the information. I really need to get this going, and it should be simple(!). I had originally installed the tomcat.deb package, and it required several other packages, one was the ibm-jdk1.1-installer, which sent me to IBM, and there I got the required packages for it. I think that is how I got Kaffe installed. (are the dependencies in the Debian Tomcat package wrong?) Anyway, I de-installed all IBM stuff, and kaffe, and got jdk1.1 and jdk1.1-dev from Debian, and now when I run it I can't get servlets to run, nor .jsp's. If there is a more simple method, or if I am dong something wrong, just let me know!! I now get: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. omega:/etc/apache# more /etc/apache/logs/mod_jserv.log [07/11/2000 21:35:43:272] (EMERGENCY) ajp12: can not connect to host 127.0.0.1:8007 [07/11/2000 21:35:43:272] (EMERGENCY) ajp12: connection fail [07/11/2000 21:35:43:272] (ERROR) an error returned handling request via protocol "ajpv12" and: /var/log/apache/error.log [Tue Nov 7 21:35:35 2000] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart [Tue Nov 7 21:35:35 2000] [warn] Loaded DSO libexec/mod_jserv.so uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with -DEAPI) [Tue Nov 7 21:35:36 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) Debian/GNU tomcat/1.0 configured -- resuming normal operations [Tue Nov 7 21:35:36 2000] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: /usr/lib/apache/suexec) Suggestions? Other questions or points: Where should I get jsdk from? ibm had j2sdk, but I don't see anything from (at) Debian. At 11:48 PM 11/06/2000 +0100, Stefan Gybas wrote: Gregory Guthrie wrote: > 1) How do I test it with their examples? There is a webapps/examples.war; > how do I invoke it? Tomcat from the Debian package runs its HTTP listener on port 8081 (that's because 8080 is used by some other packages like junkbuster), so you have to access the pages as http://localhost:8081/. -- I used it via Apache, and mod_jserv, so I assume that I do not have to use this alternate port, that would be for standalone service. > I (still) get an error that: > [Mon Nov 6 11:14:02 2000] [warn] Loaded DSO libexec/mod_jserv.so > uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please > recompile it with -DEAPI) Please use a never package version - this problem was fixed in 1.1-3 which is also in the release Debian 2.1. -- How would I get the new(er) mod_jserv; I got the latest from: http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/tomcat/release/v3.1/bin/linux/i386/ The only one I find at Debian is in jserv, which is mutually exclusive with tomcat. Where would I get the newer version? The AJP12 listener is disabled in the Debian package, you have to enable it in /etc/tomcat/server.xml. T -- thanks, done. -- I re-installed your tomcat again, thinking it may be happier now without IBM, but I get lots of errors (below), A few are surprising to me; 1) Error generating automatic IIS configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/iis _redirect.reg-auto [isn't IIS the NT web server connector?] [ the file is there] 2) Unable to open log file: /usr/share/tomcat/logs/servlet.log! [the file was there, but owned by root, bad permissions?] 3) the file /usr/share/tomcat/work does exist, but should it be owned by www-data? drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Nov 7 20:47 /usr/share/tomcat/work Thanks for any help, or advice. Gregory /var/log/tomcat/stder.out: Unable to open log file: /usr/share/tomcat/logs/servlet.log! Using stderr as the default. Unable to open log file: /usr/share/tomcat/logs/jasper.log! Using stderr as the default. Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages Error generating automatic apache configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/ tomcat-apache.conf java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf at java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java) at java.io.FileWriter.(FileWriter.java) at org.apache.tomcat.task.ApacheConfig.execute(ApacheConfig.java:97) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.generateServerConfig(Tomcat.java:219) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java:202) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java:237) Error generating automatic IIS configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/iis _redirect.reg-auto
monitor resolution only low w/ Storm/Debian
I installed the latest Storm version of Debian, and one nice thing is that it has such easy setup. But, re:video modes, I told it my monitor (NEC GFx3) and video card by name, but with anything bigger than 600x400 is just gibberish. Windows liked it all fine at 800x600, and I think even higher modes. ?? Gregory Guthrie Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: 3Com network card w/ Caldera (=? Debian)
Is Caldera Open-server Debian? I think they say this. But, /etc files are not the same, setup looks different. If so;-) I am running with a 3C509b card, which I use on my other Debian systems, and it gets the module loaded fine, ifconfig is happy, but nothing seems to go out. Ping localhost works, but nothing to the network. The IP DNS etc are all OK I think, since the adjacent Debian 2.2 box works fine with the same settings. I saw some mention of having to turn off PNP, a 3c5x9utils tool, ?? Any hints appreciated. Gregory Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Recipe for installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux?
1) Is there a simple recipe for installing Tomcat and all required Java components for Debian? Last time I did it I got caught in various version incompatibilities w/ JDKs, JVM, etc. Debian did not have current versions at that time. The only JDK in dselect was from IBM, and incompatible with Tomcat. 2) When will tomcat 3.2 (current version) be available for Debian? Any recommendations of waiting, or just doing a straight D.I.Y. Tomcat install? I like to stay in sync with the Debian packages, because they are so intertwined (tangled!). Thanks, Gregory Guthrie Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Recipe for installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux?
At 07:38 AM 12/07/2000 -0700, Ray Percival wrote: Have you checked Woody? With many,but not all, packages it is really easy to just add unstable line to your apt sources run apt-get update and then grab the package take the line out run update again and you should be on your way. It has worked for me for a couple of packages that I just could not wait for. -yes; not there. There is one at: http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat But it is 3.1, and I have had trouble getting it to run. It had a dependency on IBM Java, but is incompatible with IBM JVM. I may re-try it from a clean install, but after 4 iterations with it I still had problems.. Greg Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Potato -> Woody; apt-get snafu..
I started (over) with a clean system, installed 2.2 from CDroms, added a few packages (Apache, ntop, wuftp, gnome,..). I got several unresolved dependencies reported by dselect, but what to do? I wanted a few unsupported packages, so I added a ../woody/ line to /etc/apt/source/list, and did apt-get update, and dist-upgrade. Oops; it took about 10 passes to get all the files (220M); many many 400 not founds, 404 file errors, lost connections, etc. Anyway, a day later all was there, and it started updating. At the end it reported a bunch of missing dependencies and thus install failures. I ran the cycle again, and it downloaded another 20M, and in install gave another bunch of problems. Well, after about 5 cycles, it seems to be in such a mess (it now reports perl may not be installed properly), that it seems like I need to start all over. What went wrong here? [I had a similar experience upgrading the sibling machine, but after a few cycles it resolved itself.] I think I didn't do anything wrong, since all I did was to select a few dselect packages, and let apt do the work (make a mess..!). 1) Any ideas on how to avoid such snafu's! 2) any ideas for a recovery; or just give up. 3) how stable is woody, on a scale of 0-100%? 4) Can I get only one package from Woody, without upgrading the whole distribution? Thanks, Gregory Guthrie ---- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
dselect; suggestions..
Having just (again) had to fight through dselect for a new setup, 3 suggestions; 1) have dselect log (at least optionally). - using script is impractical, as it also presents all menus, status bars, and curses junk... 2) have it give some global navigation indication, as one ploughs through nearly infinite lists. - section 5/200, item 55/824 - 3) have it provide some higher level feature aggregations, like the "simple" setup scripts. SO one could add network servers packages, GUI packages, etc. Also, is each release checked for dependency errors? unsatisfied, or contradictory? Several times I exit Dselect, accepting all suggestions for things, and get problem reports. Often they are "xxx required, but not available". Gregory Guthrie -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
xdm questions; resolution?
I installed xdm, via XF86Setup; but due to setup problems, choose only a low resolution. Now I edited the XF86COnfig file, added higher resolutions, but it still always starts at low resolution. Also, the files there are very shallow, out of date, e.g. there are only 2-3 Trident files in Devices.gz, and only 2 NEC monitors in Monitors.gz. I thought there were special key-codes to cycle xdm through various resolutions, but can't find that information. Also, how does one exit xdm and fall-back to command mode; a key-code? Thanks, Gregory Guthrie Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Selective/partial upgrade from Potato -> Woody?
I need a few packages which are not in potato, but are in woody. Can I do a selective update to get these packages only? OR, if I add woody to the sources.list will dselect, or apt-get, automatically try to get everything that is new; that is what happened to me last time I think. Thanks, Gregory Guthrie Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
xdm questions; Startup?
I installed xdm, via XF86Setup; And got the KDE desktop. But I needed to edit the startup files for higher resolution, and now I have xdm running, but no desktop (=Command line). How do I get back to KDE? And/or, where is the desktop selected? If I am on a windowed desktop, I presume that alt-F1 switching does not work? Thanks, Gregory Guthrie Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Xwindows sessions
I use Xwin-32 on an NT PC as a remote Xwindow server (client?!) to access my linux box(s). All worked fine, until recently.. I did an upgrade to Woody on one box, and the other is Potato, but both have the same symptom. "Connection Closed" by host almost immediately upon session request. The sessions are rexec of /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm. I have the PC's IP listed in Xaccess files on both machines, and the *.localdomain names there also. Any hints on what is missing here! I didn't know where to find any reported X-errors on the linux side. Gregory Guthrie -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: dselect
At 07:57 PM 12/10/2000 -0800, Nate Amsden wrote: > Kind of, thanks. But I remember something even more general, like I > could select Workstation, and it would install a whole bunch of > packages that one might want, like editors, X, Internet stuff, etc. hmm, never heard of anything like that in debian's installation sure your not thinking of redhat or mandrake or something ? The Debian install package has something like this if you select "simple" configuration mode, "advanced" puts you into dselect. I don't know of any way to re-access this feature oriented mode post-install. Gregory ------------ Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Going Debian: advice request
At 04:43 PM 12/11/2000 -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: > but I´d like to have some packages in more bleeding-edge versions. > Any problem about that? Should I install woody instead if I intend > to use non-stable packages? Woody's definitely unstable... -- Second that. I have had two installs (upgrades potato -> woody) trip over their own dependencies and fail. A real waste of time! Good luck. Gregory -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Recipe for installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux?
At 08:15 PM 12/07/2000 +0100, Stefan Gybas wrote: I'll upload 3.2 final (together with mod_jk as a package) to my directory on master tomorrow. Please test the new version and send me feedback so I can upload the packages to the official archive soon. I did an install of 3.2 over 3.1 on a Woody box, and get the error message: (Reading database ... 30471 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace tomcat 3.2-3 (using tomcat_3.2-3_all.deb) ... Stopping Tomcat servlet engine: tomcat. Unpacking replacement tomcat ... Setting up tomcat (3.2-3) ... Starting Tomcat servlet engine: touch: creating `/etc/apache/mod_jk/tomcat-auto': No such file or directory dpkg: error processing tomcat (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: tomcat Hints? -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
exim outgoing addresses...
I have my system setup as a satellite, which forwards all email to a sh\marthost, who delivers it. But when it arrives, I'd like the addresses to show where they came from, e.g. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of From; user Hints? Thanks, Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Re: Recipe for installng Tomcat on (Debian) Linux?
At 11:58 PM 12/12/2000 +0100, Stefan Gybas wrote: If you find any more problems please mail me. If I receive no more bug repports I'll upload this version to the official archive soon (to contrib - but that's better than not in the archive at all). I did a clean new install of your 3.2 tomcat, and mod_jk; thanks. I find that I still have some problems; 1) I don't have the ..tomcat/bin/startup.sh 2) I had a 0 length mod_jk.conf_auto -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 12 16:41 mod_jk.conf-auto So, I copied one from another machine. 3) I had no files in /var/lib/tomcat/conf, which is where several /usr/share/tomcat/conf links point to, specifically I am missing: iis_redirect.reg-auto obj.conf-auto tomcat-apache.conf uriworkermap.properties-auto web.xml So, I copied these from another machine. 3) I have no logs in /var/log/tomcat. 4) I have another machine with an updated 3.1 -> 3.2, and it has logs, but reports: omega:/var/log/tomcat# zcat stdout.log.1.gz Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages Error generating automatic apache configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: / usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf at java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java) at java.io.FileWriter.(FileWriter.java) at org.apache.tomcat.task.ApacheConfig.execute(ApacheConfig.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.generateServerConfig(Tomcat.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java) Error generating automatic IIS configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr /share/tomcat/conf/iis_redirect.reg-auto java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/iis_redirect.reg-auto . etc Any hints? I completely started clean with a new install on my first machine above, so hoped it would all work easily! Thanks for any pointers. Gregory -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: exim outgoing addresses...
At 12:05 PM 12/14/2000 -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:36:59AM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > I have my system setup as a satellite, which forwards all email to a > smarthost, who delivers it. > > But when it arrives, I'd like the addresses to show where they came from, > > e.g. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > instead of > From; user > > Hints? What is the value for "qualify_domain" in /etc/exim.conf? it is the fully qualified name of that machine. -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
Problems w/ Tomcat 3.2
At 11:58 PM 12/12/2000 +0100, Stefan Gybas wrote: If you find any more problems please mail me. If I receive no more bug repports I'll upload this version to the official archive soon (to contrib - but that's better than not in the archive at all). I did a clean new install of your 3.2 tomcat, and mod_jk; thanks. I also have a version that I upgraded form 3.1 on an adjacent (potato) box. The first doesn't work, the later does, and I can't find out the differences to fix #1. I have these problems on ox #1 (woody, with updates from Potato); When I run Apache; it works. But no servlets or JSP work, and port :8081 doesn't work (all of this works on #2). All files in /etc/tomcat and /etc/apache are identical on both systems. Details; 1) I don't have the ..tomcat/bin/startup.sh -- isn't this a standard part of tomcat? 2) I had a 0 length mod_jk.conf_auto -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 12 16:41 mod_jk.conf-auto So, I copied one from another machine (#2). 3) I had no files in /var/lib/tomcat/conf, which is where several /usr/share/tomcat/conf links point to, specifically I am missing: iis_redirect.reg-auto obj.conf-auto tomcat-apache.conf uriworkermap.properties-auto web.xml So, I copied these from another machine (#2). 3) I have no logs in /var/log/tomcat. On system #2, there are a lot of logs there, but I wonder if they are old (3.1 version?) jasper.log, tomcat.log, servlet.log on the working system (#2): omega:/var/log/tomcat# zcat stdout.log.1.gz Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages Error generating automatic apache configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: / usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf at java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java) at java.io.FileWriter.(FileWriter.java) at org.apache.tomcat.task.ApacheConfig.execute(ApacheConfig.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.generateServerConfig(Tomcat.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java) Error generating automatic IIS configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr /share/tomcat/conf/iis_redirect.reg-auto java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/iis_redirect.reg-auto . etc Any hints? I completely started clean with a new install on my first machine above, so hoped it would all work easily! Thanks for any pointers. Gregory ------------ Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department School of Computing and Information Science Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: Problems w/ Tomcat 3.2
Problem solved. I had not apparently installed jdk1.1-dev on that machine, so /etc/init.d/tomcat was silently failing when it looked for java to start the tomcat engine. I hope this helps someone else! I do notice that :8081 does not bring up index.html for tomcat (as it did on my other machine), but just "directory listing for /". Greg At 12:07 PM 12/21/2000 -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote: At 11:58 PM 12/12/2000 +0100, Stefan Gybas wrote: If you find any more problems please mail me. If I receive no more bug repports I'll upload this version to the official archive soon (to contrib - but that's better than not in the archive at all). I did a clean new install of your 3.2 tomcat, and mod_jk; thanks. I also have a version that I upgraded form 3.1 on an adjacent (potato) box. The first doesn't work, the later does, and I can't find out the differences to fix #1. I have these problems on ox #1 (woody, with updates from Potato); When I run Apache; it works. But no servlets or JSP work, and port :8081 doesn't work (all of this works on #2). All files in /etc/tomcat and /etc/apache are identical on both systems. Details; 1) I don't have the ..tomcat/bin/startup.sh -- isn't this a standard part of tomcat? 2) I had a 0 length mod_jk.conf_auto -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 12 16:41 mod_jk.conf-auto So, I copied one from another machine (#2). 3) I had no files in /var/lib/tomcat/conf, which is where several /usr/share/tomcat/conf links point to, specifically I am missing: iis_redirect.reg-auto obj.conf-auto tomcat-apache.conf uriworkermap.properties-auto web.xml So, I copied these from another machine (#2). 3) I have no logs in /var/log/tomcat. On system #2, there are a lot of logs there, but I wonder if they are old (3.1 version?) jasper.log, tomcat.log, servlet.log on the working system (#2): omega:/var/log/tomcat# zcat stdout.log.1.gz Starting tomcat. Check logs/tomcat.log for error messages Error generating automatic apache configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: / usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/tomcat-apache.conf at java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java) at java.io.FileWriter.(FileWriter.java) at org.apache.tomcat.task.ApacheConfig.execute(ApacheConfig.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.generateServerConfig(Tomcat.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.execute(Tomcat.java) at org.apache.tomcat.startup.Tomcat.main(Tomcat.java) Error generating automatic IIS configuration java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr /share/tomcat/conf/iis_redirect.reg-auto java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/tomcat/conf/iis_redirect.reg-auto . etc Any hints? I completely started clean with a new install on my first machine above, so hoped it would all work easily! Thanks for any pointers. Gregory -------- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125 Fax: -1103
exim outgoing addresses...
I have my system setup as a satellite, which forwards all email to a sh\marthost, who delivers it. But when it arrives, I'd like the addresses to show where they came from, e.g. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of From; user It looks to me like this rule in /etc/exim.conf is the key place to fix: ## # REWRITE CONFIGURATION # ## # These rewriters make sure the mail messages appear to have originated # from the real mail-reading host. ^(?i)(root|postmaster|mailer-daemon)@theta.cs.mum.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr ^(?i)(root|postmaster|mailer-daemon)@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr Hints? Thanks, Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
dselect issues..
1) I think I have the most up to date stable (slink) system, I have used apt-get to do an update/upgrade, and everything seems OK. 2) when I use dselect, I do not get the multi-cd option; but I have a release on multiple cd's (2.1R4). 3) when I use the cd2 from this set, all works fine, but if I try to use cd1, it complains about the path, and no Packages file found, although it is there, and in the right place (same as CD#2). 4) I tried to do apt-get install xfree86 to get the most up to date version, but it did nothing. Is there a way to use apt-get to know what needs upgrade, and to get the latest without 80-100MB downloads? Thanks, Gregory Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
problems with apt-get upgrade slink -> potato
I tried to do a slink->potato upgrade, I put the potato debian site in /etc/apt/sources.list, and let go with atp-get update <-- works fine... apt-get dist-upgrade <-- problems... but, (see below) it looks like I get only a few fiels, adn many many errors which seem server related. Suggestions? Gregory Guthrie -- Script started on Thu Apr 13 20:13:21 2000 csgrg.root(501) >> csgrg.root(502) >> apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... 0% Reading Package Lists... 100% Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... 0% Building Dependency Tree... 0% Building Dependency Tree... 50% Building Dependency Tree... 50% Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: timezones libmd5-perl perl libpam0g-util perl-suid libsnmp3.6 netstd The following NEW packages will be installed: libncurses5 traceroute perl-5.004-base libwrap0 libpam-modules perl-5.004 perl-5.005 ruptime liburi-perl libpam-runtime rusers rsh-server java-common perl-5.004-suid tcpd rdate cfingerd perl-5.004-doc tftp finger libstdc++2.10 icmpinfo rwho bootpc rdist ftp rwall perl-5.005-base rwhod fping libsnmp4.1 tcl8.2 tk8.2 rsh-client debconf libreadline4 nfs-common pidentd liblockfile1 169 packages upgraded, 39 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 62.4MB/63.2MB of archives. After unpacking 58.2MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 0% [Waiting for file] Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libc6-dev 2.1.3-8 [2092kB] 0% [1 libc6-dev 1142/2092kB 0%] ... 3% [1 libc6-dev 2088942/2092kB 99%] 11.5kB/s 1h27m51s 3% [Working] 11.5kB/s 1h27m50s Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libc6 2.1.3-8 400 Bad Request Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libpam0g 0.72-7 Bad header line Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main snmp 4.1.1-2 The http server sent an invalid reply header Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main ncurses-base 5.0-6 [80.7kB] 3% [2 ncurses-base 0/80.7kB 0%] 11.5kB/s 1h27m50s Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libncurses4 4.2-9 400 Bad Request Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main netbase 3.18-2 Bad header line Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libwrap0 7.6-4 [52.8kB] 3% [3 libwrap0 0/52.8kB 0%] 9941B/s 1h41m3s ... 3% [3 libwrap0 47836/52.8kB 90%] 9963B/s 1h40m45s 3% [Working] 9963B/s 1h40m44s Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main tcpd 7.6-4 501 Method Not Implemented -------- Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125 Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
