Re: prevent user from login?

2006-09-24 Thread Deephay

Thanks very much for the explanation!

Regards.

On 9/24/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 02:34:24PM +0800, Deephay wrote:
> thanks for the help.
> but I am not very much understand what is the meaning of changing the
> default login shell to /bin/false. Could you explain it? Thanks.
>

Certainly,

The man page for /bin/false reads:

"false - do nothing, unsuccessfully"

Basically, when the user logs in the system executes the shell program
that is listed in /etc/passwd.  If the shell program exits immdiately
when the user authenticates, you have, in effect, prevented the user
from logging in.  In reality you have not, because the system still
accepted the user's name and password and tried to execute a shell, but
you have just made the user's shell useless.

The other option is to disable the user's password, by placing an
asterisk at the beginning of it in /etc/shadow.  However, this would
also prevent your users from being able to login with their mail clients
to check mail, which you probably do not want.

Regards,

-Roberto
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Re: prevent user from login?

2006-09-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 03:02:22PM +0800, Deephay wrote:
> Thanks very much for the explanation!
> 

No problem.  One last thing, though.  Top posting is considered bad form
on this list.  Please ensure to either interleave your reply or place it
below the message to which you are replying.

Regards,

-Roberto

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nautilus bug report (was: Recommend a file manager)

2006-09-24 Thread T
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:26:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

>> happy. We used to settle with the the file manager that comes default
>> with Gnome, but now that one can't rename files any more (it actually
>> can initially, but stop responding to keyboard very soon).
> 
> Just now I stresses nautilus and could not get it to "not respond to the
> keyboard".  So... please file a bug against nautilus giving as much detail
> as possible.

Thanks Ron for your persistence. I felt obliged to do a through test now. :-)
I can't file bug reports because my email smarthost setting is not working
now...

Seems the problem does not exist in normal situation (LANG=C), but only
occurs when I start my very own Chinese gnome, like this:

 LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 GDM_LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 [EMAIL PROTECTED] startx --
 :1

In ~/.gnomerc:

 LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 /usr/bin/chinput &

All above add up to the bug. I tried to duplicate such environment one
piece at a time, trying to stripped a minimum environment, but seems above
all are necessary to reproduce the bug, especially the chinput, which I
was trying to avoid at first.

When nautilus is launched in such environment, it doesn't take long for it
to stop responding to keyboard: "Rename" -> insert some chars anywhere in
file name just to prove it is working, click mouse around within file name
string here and there, then restart typing with "_", it won't work any
more. You don't need Chinese file names to duplicate, or to active
chinput, just English file names is good enough to reproduce the problem...

Again, I was trying step by step to stripped a minimum bug reproducing
environment. For such complicated setting, I don't expect the bug can be
hunted down easily though...




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need a newsreader with decent filtering

2006-09-24 Thread Arthur Marsh
Hi, I've given up on Thunderbird for newsreading (ISP's news server,
news.mozilla.org and news.gmane.org for things like Debian lists) given
that it won't support filtering on newsgroup cross-posts any time soon, but
have had trouble finding an alternative.

I'm running Debian unstable with KDE and tried pan, but experienced lock-ups
and wasn't happy with the filtering options.

At present, I'm trying knode but still seem unable to filter based on the
fact that news.gmane.org marks detected spam as cross-posted to
gmane.spam.detected (one cannot subscribe to gmane.spam.detected directly,
so one can't automatically mark gmane.spam.detected as read).

Any suggestions on getting knode to work nicely or an alternative
news-reader with good filtering properties?

Arthur.


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Re: prevent user from login?

2006-09-24 Thread Deephay

On 9/24/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 03:02:22PM +0800, Deephay wrote:
> Thanks very much for the explanation!
>

No problem.  One last thing, though.  Top posting is considered bad form
on this list.  Please ensure to either interleave your reply or place it
below the message to which you are replying.


Acknowledged.



Regards,

-Roberto

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need a newsreader with decent filtering

2006-09-24 Thread Arthur Marsh
Hi, I've given up on Thunderbird for newsreading (ISP's news server,
news.mozilla.org and news.gmane.org for things like Debian lists) given
that it won't support filtering on newsgroup cross-posts any time soon, but
have had trouble finding an alternative.

I'm running Debian unstable with KDE and tried pan, but experienced lock-ups
and wasn't happy with the filtering options.

At present, I'm trying knode but still seem unable to filter based on the
fact that news.gmane.org marks detected spam as cross-posted to
gmane.spam.detected (one cannot subscribe to gmane.spam.detected directly,
so one can't automatically mark gmane.spam.detected as read).

Any suggestions on getting knode to work nicely or an alternative
news-reader with good filtering properties?

Arthur.


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Re: still in search of a good news reader

2006-09-24 Thread Michael M.

Arthur Marsh wrote:

After finding out that Thunderbird is unlikely to support
newsgroup filtering based on cross-posts (something that I did at the
news-server level with INN back in 1993), I looked at what other
newsreaders were available for Debian unstable. I aborted installing knews
because it appeared to only support one news-server (I currently use 3
different servers), and installed pan.

Although pan is able to do rudimentary filtering based on cross-posting,
it still appears "dumbed-down" and some options that I'd like to pick
global defaults for seem to only be able to be set per newsgroup.

The biggest issue I have with pan seem to be:

I can't find out how to view attachments from within pan.

Does anyone have suggestions on a good newsreader package with support for
multiple nntp servers and filtering? I'd prefer gui but did start out with
tin (-:.

Arthur.


  



If you can't find a newsreader that does everything you want on it's 
own, you might want to take a look at Leafnode:  http://www.leafnode.org/


It's an NNTP server you can run locally.  You can set it up to pull from 
all three of the remote servers you use, and do all your filtering 
within Leafnode.  That will free you up to use any gui newsreader you 
want, regardless of how dumb.  :-)  You can focus on finding one with an 
interface you like, without having to worry about whether it can handle 
multiple servers, do server-side filtering, etc.


I think the original idea of Leafnode was to provide people who used 
"online" newreaders with "offline" newsreading capability, but it does 
more than that.  Basically, Leafnode is to newsreaders as an MTA/MDA is 
to an email client.  Personally, I think Thunderbird works well in 
combination with Leafnode.


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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Julian De Marchi
Hi All,

I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum. I know alot of ppl are
against a forum, but i think it will turn into a good place to talk about
issues that are hard to solve due to the number of e-mails that need to be
sent and for of topic debian discussions. I think this can turn into a
good thing. This forum is not a replacement for the mailing list, but more
of a complementary service to the mailing list.

Moderators will be needed to help run the site and help it grow into
something usefull, and any sugesstions to forums to add would be great.
Please help this grow and at least give it a chance to see if it catches
on.

http://debian.jdcomputers.com.au

Cheers,

Julian


On Fri, September 22, 2006 10:34 am, Raquel said:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:07:48 +1000 (EST)
> "Julian De Marchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this
>> mailing list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out
>> there for this? If so, with some suggestions we can go ahead with
>> this at some pace and have it up and running in a day or so.
>>
>>
>> Julian
>>
>
> I would say that if you want to do it, then you should.  And then
> advertise it like crazy.  There will be so many "nay sayers" here
> that you'll become discourage very quickly.  Some people don't like
> change and will fight with all their strength against something
> different.
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Re: df and du disagree, or "How to get 1.1GB of data onto a 650MB CD"

2006-09-24 Thread re2823
 Original Message 
From: T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: df and du disagree, or "How to get 1.1GB of data onto a 650MB CD"
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:10:19 +0200

> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:14:37 +0100, re2823 wrote:
> 
> > I have a strange problem: I have an iso image file which (according to ls)
> > is 569M in size:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > Now for the problem...
> > The relevant line from "df -h":
> > poota:~# df -h
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /root/image.iso
> >   569M  569M 0 100% /root/temp
> > 
> > And the result from running "du -sh": poota:~# du -sh temp/
> > 1.1Gtemp/
> > 
> > Just to really baffle me, I've burnt this iso image onto a 650MB CD-ROM,
> > mounted it, and it too has 1.1GB of data on it:
> > 
> > poota:~# du -sh /media/cdrom0
> > 1.1G/media/cdrom0
> > 
> > But the "df -h" output seems more reasonable: server:~# df -h
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdd   
> >   569M  569M 0 100% /media/cdrom0
> > 
> > Could anyone please tell me how there can be such a huge difference
> > between the output from df and du?
> 
> Are you using some kind Live CD? This is actually quite normal for Live
> CDs.
>

No, sorry, no live CD. I'm running a plain-and-simple Debian
install (onto a hard-disk). The iso file "appears" to be a
standard ISO9660 data file ("file image.iso" says "ISO 9660
CD-ROM filesystem data" so I don't think it's anything special.
 
> > My real problem comes when I want to remove one small file from the file
> > system, and turn it back into an iso - the resulting iso image is 1.1GB
> > (and I can no longer write it to a CD!)
> 
> It maybe helpful if you had indicated what CD you are using. 

The CD that I'm using for this part is just a standard 70 min,
650MB blank cd-r.

They must
> be using some kind of compression. So, 

Do you mean compression as in "zip, gzip, etc"? If so, I don't
see how that would make any difference to the size occupied by
the iso file and size of its contents. Surely 500MB of text files
takes up the same space as 500MB of gzip files - 500MB to be
precise!


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Re: Pinging Postmaster

2006-09-24 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Mike Bird) hast geschrieben:

> Murphy has been in and out of Spamcop several times over the past
> several days.  There have been the usual semi-informed rants on
> debian-user but nothing that I can find from you.
> 
> Are you aware of the problem?

Yes.

> Is there any informed discussion of the problem?  If so where?

Not that i'm aware of.

> Are you working with Spamcop deputies to resolve the problem?
> If not, why not?

I don't know if someone tries to explain the situation again to
SpamCop. To my opinion: it isn't worth it.

We were listed on SpamCop from time to time, and we always tried to
discuss the problem with them. Most of the time it ends up with
delisting, and the promise that they won't list us again.

Some months later we are on again. Our problem is that some clueless
Mailinglist-Users report Mails they requested (by subscribing) to
SpamCop. Then some clueless[1] SpamCop-Admin lists us again.

As this happens more than 5 times now, i think that SpamCop is
useless, and it is not woth the time to discuss with them, get a
promise and be listed again.

> It appears that the abuse contact of murphy's IP does not accept
> Spamcop reports and was also out of date.  I've just refreshed
> Spamcop's cache so that it picks up the lastest abuse contact
> from whois.  However, there's still the problem that if
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't accept Spamcop reports they can't
> pass them on to you for fixing.

check http://rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=spamcop.net

> Is it correct that [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't accept Spamcop
> reports?

I don't know. I hope it is the case, as clueless[1] SpamCop-Reports
once nearly lead to the cancelation of our Bandwidth-Provider
connection.

> If so, what are you doing about this?

nothing. don't use SpamCop. Not for Blocking Mail (Tagging is ok), not
for reporting Mails you requested (those should be bounced (as in
mutt(1)) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Cord

[1] I try dealing with SpamCop for years now. Every Mail I send was
answered by different personel, and no one knew of previous
conversations, so each time one has to begin from the very start. Then
you reach the point where one of those understands your mail-setup,
delists, and promised to whitelist. Then another user sends in some
mail as Spam-Report, and you're on again. I'm so sick of them.

They also have serious problems to understand a more complex mail
setup. I once ran a Mailserver with ~160 Mailboxes. That
Mailsystem consists of 14 Servers, divided in Backends and Frontends.
SpamCop lists the Frontends, because they couldn't understand.

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Installing source packages?

2006-09-24 Thread Jef Driesen

When I install a source package, the package installs correctly and
replaces the binary package. I used the debian documentation [1] to do
this. But when I check for upgrades, the package manager wants to
replace my newly compiled package with the original binary one again.

The package I want to replace is libexif12. The strange thing is that if
I follow the same procedure for another source package (eog in my case),
the package manager is perfectly happy with it.

I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) if that matters.

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html

$ apt-get source libexif12
$ cd libexif-0.6.12
$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
$ sudo dpkg -i ../libexif12_0.6.12-2_i386.deb

$ apt-get source eog
$ cd eog-2.14.3
$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
$ sudo dpkg -i ../eog_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
   libexif12
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/57.7kB of archives.
After unpacking 4096B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


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Re: error inserting genrtc

2006-09-24 Thread ciol

testing:~# lsmod | grep rtc
rtc12088  0


The message (on boot) appears on my testing system, but with sarge, same 
kernel, it does not appear.




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3rd posting attempt: in search of a filtering newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread Arthur Marsh
Hi, I've given up on Thunderbird for newsreading (ISP's news server,
news.mozilla.org and news.gmane.org for things like Debian lists) given
that it won't support filtering on newsgroup cross-posts any time soon, but
have had trouble finding an alternative.

I'm running Debian unstable with KDE and tried pan, but experienced lock-ups
and wasn't happy with the filtering options.

At present, I'm trying knode but still seem unable to filter based on the
fact that news.gmane.org marks detected spam as cross-posted to
gmane.spam.detected (one cannot subscribe to gmane.spam.detected directly,
so one can't automatically mark gmane.spam.detected as read).

Any suggestions on getting knode to work nicely or an alternative
news-reader with good filtering properties?

Arthur.


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Re: Debian Love

2006-09-24 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi!

* Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060923 19:15]:

> Since user-lists deal mostly with problems, one might get the feel that
> problems are all that there is, here. This thread - which I endorse - is
> one good idea. Someone considered posting it to debian-devel?

It was mentioned twice on planet.debian.org (once by Joey Hess and once
by me) and reported to DWN to be mentioned in the weekly news :)


Yours sincerely,
  Alexander

PS: If you want to forward it, please forward it to debian-project;
there is allready to much Off-Topic stuff on -devel going on.



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Re: last attempt with pan newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
There is a new version completely re-written, got it compiled/installed 
but could not get it to launch, uses $HOME/.pan2, the old pan should work 
though.


On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Arthur Marsh wrote:


Has anyone persisted with the pan newsreader. I'm about to ditch it after
a few reportbug submissions /-: for problems including lockups.

Arthur.


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Re: last attempt with pan newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:13 Justin Piszcz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Arthur Marsh wrote:
> > Has anyone persisted with the pan newsreader. I'm about to ditch it
> > after a few reportbug submissions /-: for problems including
> > lockups.
>
> There is a new version completely re-written, got it compiled/
> installed but could not get it to launch, uses $HOME/.pan2, the old
> pan should work though.

It reports missing /lib/libpcre.so.0, right?
Can be solved by creating a symlink to /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0.0.1:

ln -s /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0.0.1 /lib/libpcre.so.0

BTW, Arthur Marsh IS using this new version, Pan 0.113.
It's mentioned in the headers.

S.H.


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Re: last attempt with pan newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread Mumia W..

On 09/22/2006 08:44 PM, Arthur Marsh wrote:

Has anyone persisted with the pan newsreader. I'm about to ditch it after
a few reportbug submissions /-: for problems including lockups.

Arthur.




I tried reporting some bug to the upstream author last year, but he
doesn't seem to be accessible. However, you should upgrade to Pan 
0.14.2.91 before you judge Pan too harshly.


Pan is a really great newsreader despite the fact that it's unfinished.

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Re: last attempt with pan newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread Rob Bochan
On Friday 22 September 2006 21:44, Arthur Marsh wrote:
> Has anyone persisted with the pan newsreader. I'm about to ditch it after
> a few reportbug submissions /-: for problems including lockups.
>
> Arthur.

I've used pan for about 6 years or so now. This new version in unstable is 
just _awful_. I despise it. Previous functionality has been lost, years of 
filters are now unable to be used due to different filtering syntax in the 
scorefile, bad interface, yada yada. I reverted to version 0.14.2.91 and have 
put it on hold. Probably for good, or until I have the time to test out some 
others.

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Andrew Saunders

On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.


I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would make me
want to use it over, say, forums.debian.net? Moreover, why do you
think it more beneficial to create yet another Debian forum as opposed
to helping promote one of the others that already exists? This thread
started with someone complaining that forums.debian.net is too small
with only ~7000 registered users - fragmenting the user base even more
widely with your offering doesn't seem like it's going to do much to
help solve that problem.

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Re: Xen 3.0.2 on Etch

2006-09-24 Thread Alex Pimperton

Lars Staun Knudsen wrote:

Hi

I'm trying to get Xen 3.0.2 working on Etch and installed the tools
and kernel-image with Debian's own packages:
ii  libc6-xen  2.3.6.ds1-4
ii  linux-headers-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver 2.6.16-18
ii  linux-headers-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686 2.6.16-18
ii  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686   2.6.16-18
ii  linux-modules-2.6.16-2-xen-686 2.6.16-18
ii  linux-modules-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686 2.6.16-18
ii  xen-hypervisor-3.0.2-1-i3863.0.2-3+hg9762-1
ii  xen-utils-3.0.2-1  3.0.2-3+hg9762-1
ii  xen-utils-common   3.0+hg11292-2

And edited grub ("/boot/grun/menu.lst"):

 title   Xen 3.0 / XenLinux 2.6
kernel  /boot/xen-3.0.2-1-i386.gz
module  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686 root=/dev/hda1
module  /boot/initrdXen.img

And then i rebooted and got a kernel panic. It panics when accessing
 root, so I thought there was a problem accessing /dev/hda, so i
created initrdXen.img with the modules listed with lsmod. That got
me a bit further, but still during the boot process, errors came
regarding modules.deb in /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686/. The
file exist and the process stops with error on "/dev/console". Then
the computer restarts and I'm lost...

Thank you in advance.
Best regards

/Lars Staun Knudsen


  

This is a known issue with the 16-2 kernels, see:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/435

There are also bugs filed in the BTS.

Alex


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Re: WTF is binding "Control-O" key in Gnome apps?

2006-09-24 Thread Miles Bader
"Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You can remap keys using xmodmap if you have to, but it might be your
> keyboard layout that needs fixing. When I type "grep XkbLayout
> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4" it says "us." Since you are using Xorg, your
> configuration file is probably differently named.

Why do you think this is related to X keyboard mapping?
This "binding" only happens in Gnome apps, and ^O works fine in, for
instance, Emacs (running in its own window).

Looking at the output of xmodmap -pk shows nothing odd, and xev shows
the following if I hit ^O (this is preceeded by the control-key event of
course):

-- KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x221,
root 0x44, subw 0x222, time 3665002075, (36,52), root:(51,124),
state 0x4, keycode 32 (keysym 0x6f, o), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0f) ""
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0f) ""
XFilterEvent returns: False

which is its expected value (0xF).

{I've scoured various gnome settings files etc., though, and cannot find
any reference to it... it's driving me nuts!]

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Re: still in search of a good news reader

2006-09-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Sep 23 23:57 -0500]:
> 
> The biggest issue I have with pan seem to be:
> 
> I can't find out how to view attachments from within pan.

For me, pictures are displayed inline and those larger than the body
frame are shrunk to fit.  Clicking on it will enlarge it like Firefox
does.  Multi-part images are easy to view as Pan will show two green
interlocked puzzle pieces to indicate all articles are present.  A
single red puzzle piece means one or more articles are missing.  To
save a picture, clicking the disk icon pops up the dialog for saving
it.

Other binaries are handled similarly with the save dialog brought up
immediately upon selecting a posting header.  This is with Pan 0.113
which is almost feature complete compared to the older versions. 
Still, with Pan under heavy development right now, it might be a good
time to suggest certain features.

As for filtering, I don't bother with it.  But then I don't read more
than a handful of news groups and it's rather easy to skip the
off-topic stuff.

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Re: Installing source packages?

2006-09-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 09:14:27AM +0200, Jef Driesen wrote:
> When I install a source package, the package installs correctly and
> replaces the binary package. I used the debian documentation [1] to do
> this. But when I check for upgrades, the package manager wants to
> replace my newly compiled package with the original binary one again.
> 
> The package I want to replace is libexif12. The strange thing is that if
> I follow the same procedure for another source package (eog in my case),
> the package manager is perfectly happy with it.
> 
> I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) if that matters.
> 
> [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
> 
> $ apt-get source libexif12
> $ cd libexif-0.6.12
> $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
> $ sudo dpkg -i ../libexif12_0.6.12-2_i386.deb
> 
> $ apt-get source eog
> $ cd eog-2.14.3
> $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
> $ sudo dpkg -i ../eog_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
> 
> $ sudo apt-get update
> $ sudo apt-get upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>libexif12
> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/57.7kB of archives.
> After unpacking 4096B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> 
> 

The reason is because your package has the same version number as the
package in the archive, but a different md5sum.  This makes dpkg think
that something is corrupted and it wants to fix the problem by replacing
your package.  Add a changelog entry to make the version something like 
0.6.12-2.0.0.1~dreisen0, which is greater than the current version of
0.6.12-2, but which will still cause future versions to show up as
upgrades.

Alterenatively, you can plae the package on hold

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.
> 
> I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would make me
> want to use it over, say, forums.debian.net? Moreover, why do you
> think it more beneficial to create yet another Debian forum as opposed
> to helping promote one of the others that already exists? This thread
> started with someone complaining that forums.debian.net is too small
> with only ~7000 registered users - fragmenting the user base even more
> widely with your offering doesn't seem like it's going to do much to
> help solve that problem.
> 

Agreed.  While it is obvious that there is demand for a forum, I do not
believe that there is enough demand for two or more.

Regards,

-Roberto
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Re: last attempt with pan newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Sep 24 07:11 -0500]:
> On 09/22/2006 08:44 PM, Arthur Marsh wrote:
> >Has anyone persisted with the pan newsreader. I'm about to ditch it after
> >a few reportbug submissions /-: for problems including lockups.
> >
> >Arthur.
> >
> >
> 
> I tried reporting some bug to the upstream author last year, but he
> doesn't seem to be accessible. However, you should upgrade to Pan 
> 0.14.2.91 before you judge Pan too harshly.

Actually, that would be a downgrade.  Pan 0.113 is the newest version
of the C++ rewrite in Sid.  I agree that there are still unstable
parts, although I don't tax Pan too heavily, but it is much faster than
the older versions and is the future of Pan, as I understand it.

> Pan is a really great newsreader despite the fact that it's unfinished.

Knode comes close, but I still prefer Pan, although the only complaint
I had against Pan about a year ago was that it did not support binary
uploads.  For that I resorted to Knode as I recall.

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canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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i am going to mad for the support of canon ip 1000 :(

any body using it.
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Re: make-kpkg + 2.6.18 errors

2006-09-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sridhar M.A. wrote:

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:49:19PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
   > 
   > Suddenly "make-kpkg --revision 1 kernel_image" fails with kernel 2.6.18. 
   > (attached)
   > 
   > That worked OK with 2.6.17 5 days ago.
   > 
   > Anybody do make-kpkg with 2.6.18?
   > 
Just compiled 2.6.18 yesterday. My command was


  fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_image 


I did not notice any problems.

Regards,



I upgraded kernel-package to the latest Sid and the problem went away.
Why it happened I could not say, but looking at the code: it's no 
playground for amateurs ;-)


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Re: few questions about xorg 7.1

2006-09-24 Thread Nicoco Kinlidex
i've switched to opensource ati drivers as proprietary ones are broken 
in sid (conflicts with xorg 7.1). whatever...

but you didn't answer ? is aiglx now part of debian ? will there be a 
compiz package soon ?

I didn't find the answer to this question with google so I'm asking 
here.

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Re: need a newsreader with decent filtering

2006-09-24 Thread Russell L. Harris
Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Any suggestions on getting knode to work nicely or an alternative
> news-reader with good filtering properties?

For several years I've been using gnus (which runs under emacs/xemacs)
for mail and news; with gnus I can zip through and delete a stack of
spam very quickly.  I've used sorting in gnus, but not "filtering".

It is very nice to be able to use a single editor (emacs/xemacs) for
normal work, mail, and news.

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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

> i am going to mad for the support of canon ip 1000 :(

You could try to convert the official drivers[0] via alien to Debian’s packagein
format and install them. I did so with my iP4200 and it works like a charm.

> any body using it.

Was this a question.


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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:23:05 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> > On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.
> > 
> > I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would
> > make me want to use it over, say, forums.debian.net? Moreover,
> > why do you think it more beneficial to create yet another Debian
> > forum as opposed to helping promote one of the others that
> > already exists? This thread started with someone complaining
> > that forums.debian.net is too small with only ~7000 registered
> > users - fragmenting the user base even more widely with your
> > offering doesn't seem like it's going to do much to help solve
> > that problem.
> > 
> 
> Agreed.  While it is obvious that there is demand for a forum, I
> do not believe that there is enough demand for two or more.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Roberto
> -- 

But then, Debian is all about "freedom".  Right?  At least that's
what we were hearing in the "spam" subject.

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread aladdin
On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:16, Raquel wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:23:05 -0400
> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> > > On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.
> > > 
> > > I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would
> > > make me want to use it over, say, forums.debian.net? Moreover,
> > > why do you think it more beneficial to create yet another Debian
> > > forum as opposed to helping promote one of the others that
> > > already exists? This thread started with someone complaining
> > > that forums.debian.net is too small with only ~7000 registered
> > > users - fragmenting the user base even more widely with your
> > > offering doesn't seem like it's going to do much to help solve
> > > that problem.
> > > 
> > 
> > Agreed.  While it is obvious that there is demand for a forum, I
> > do not believe that there is enough demand for two or more.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -Roberto
> > -- 
> 
> But then, Debian is all about "freedom".  Right?  At least that's
> what we were hearing in the "spam" subject.
> 
> -- 
> Raquel
> 
> Since when do you have to agree with people to defend them from
> injustice?
>   --Lillian Hellman
> 
> 
I think my vote has to go with Andrew and Roberto.  In this thread, some people 
have given good reasons
why they prefer a mailing list to a forum.  I like both, and use both.  Yes, 
one of Debian's calling cards is
all about freedom, but with such a small user base for an already existing 
forum, I'm going to exercise my
freedom and support the one that already has 7000+ members and help it to grow 
into a more widely
used venue.

On the other hand, anyone out there is also perfectly free to set up another 
forum for all five of the people
who may initially use it.  When it shows itself to be in some way(s) superior 
to the existing forum, either in functional
capability or in the eventual number of users that may subscribe, I'm sure 
those of us who use forums will
come running.

Have to emphasize Andrew's question, though:

> > > I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would
> > > make me want to use it over, say, forums.debian.net? Moreover,

At this moment in history, I would hate to see the "only 7000" on the existing 
forum fragmented, but, hey,
it's a Darwinian thing.  If it is some way better, it will win out.

My 2 cents.

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Re: WTF is binding "Control-O" key in Gnome apps?

2006-09-24 Thread Mumia W..

On 09/23/2006 06:45 AM, Miles Bader wrote:

"Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

You can remap keys using xmodmap if you have to, but it might be your
keyboard layout that needs fixing. When I type "grep XkbLayout
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" it says "us." Since you are using Xorg, your
configuration file is probably differently named.


Why do you think this is related to X keyboard mapping?
This "binding" only happens in Gnome apps, and ^O works fine in, for
instance, Emacs (running in its own window).

Looking at the output of xmodmap -pk shows nothing odd, and xev shows
the following if I hit ^O (this is preceeded by the control-key event of
course):

-- KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x221,
root 0x44, subw 0x222, time 3665002075, (36,52), root:(51,124),
state 0x4, keycode 32 (keysym 0x6f, o), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0f) ""
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0f) ""
XFilterEvent returns: False

which is its expected value (0xF).

{I've scoured various gnome settings files etc., though, and cannot find
any reference to it... it's driving me nuts!]

-Miles



Hmm, you're probably right. It's a setting within Gnome, but I can't 
find it either. Try going into the gconf-editor and browsing the paths. 
It might be in there somewhere.


The gconf-editor also has a search feature (Edit/Find). I searched for 
"input-method" and "input method" but didn't find anything; however, 
your system may be different, and you can think of other search terms 
I'm sure.


You can also try yahoo:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=gnome+input+method+change

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:05:22AM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:45:20 -0500
> Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 05:34:35PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> > > I would say that if you want to do it, then you should.  And
> > > then advertise it like crazy.  There will be so many "nay
> > > sayers" here that you'll become discourage very quickly.  Some
> > > people don't like change and will fight with all their strength
> > > against something different.
> > 
> > *sigh*  Why must people who disagree with your preference
> > automatically "not like change"?
> 
> I only said that "some people" don't like change.  Why do you
> purposely lump everyone who doesn't want a forum into that category?

In the context in which you referred to "some people", it is common for
the phrase to mean "the people I was just talking about" (i.e., those
who don't like forums) as a group, rather than a subset of that group.

>  It seems you're trying to light a fire.

While I was aware that my post might have that effect, that was not
my intent.  I read your initial post as an accusation that those who
don't like forums are only/primarily against them because they "don't
like change".  As one who sees little to no value in forums over mailing
lists, I found this to be an unfair characterization and felt the need
to refute it.  My apologies for apparently misreading your intent.

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Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-24 Thread Stephen
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 01:22:30PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth Goodman wrote:

> You are right in saying there is no apparent way to subscribe without
> getting all the list traffic.  Without this feature, it is impractical
> to require that posters first confirm their email address.

Why ? I don't know of any e-mail list, (other than this one) that doesn't
require people to first confirm their address -- It's pretty much a
standard practise.

Why don't such things ever get submitted for a vote, to see exactly
where the membership stands on this ? OR has this been done already ?

One can endlessly debate the issue, but at the end of the day, if the 
majority wish this to be implemented, then it should be done. The views of a 
few, should never outweigh those of the majority, and it doesn't in the
slightest prevent people from getting help. If an individual wants help,
then the 5 second process of registering and confirmation is a very
minor speed bump along the way to getting that help -- It's not like
one is being asked to pay a fee for support.

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Re: Mouse Problems with KVM Switch

2006-09-24 Thread Michael Dominok
Am Samstag, den 23.09.2006, 09:29 -0400 schrieb aladdin:
> The one I have is a Belkin.  The one thing I haven't done is to try 
> restarting X when it
> happens, simply because I haven't gotten around to looking up the 
> startup/shutdown
> script, but this is almost as bad as rebooting.

I found out that sometimes it's sufficient to "refresh" X by switching
to console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back.

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Re: still in search of a good news reader

2006-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/24/06 08:17, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Sep 23 23:57
> -0500]:
[snip]
> Other binaries are handled similarly with the save dialog brought
> up immediately upon selecting a posting header.  This is with Pan
> 0.113 which is almost feature complete compared to the older
> versions. Still, with Pan under heavy development right now, it
> might be a good time to suggest certain features.

When doing Save As, does New Pan use the GNOME File Picker or use
the old dialog box?  (I really like the old dialog box, and it's why
I pinned 0.14.2.92.

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Re: still in search of a good news reader

2006-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/24/06 10:18, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 09/24/06 08:17, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>> * Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Sep 23 23:57
>>> -0500]:
> [snip]
>>> Other binaries are handled similarly with the save dialog brought
>>> up immediately upon selecting a posting header.  This is with Pan
>>> 0.113 which is almost feature complete compared to the older
>>> versions. Still, with Pan under heavy development right now, it
>>> might be a good time to suggest certain features.
> 
> When doing Save As, does New Pan use the GNOME File Picker or use
> the old dialog box?  (I really like the old dialog box, and it's why
> I pinned 0.14.2.92.

s/.92/.91

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Re: need a newsreader with decent filtering

2006-09-24 Thread s. keeling
Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Hi, I've given up on Thunderbird for newsreading (ISP's news server,
>  news.mozilla.org and news.gmane.org for things like Debian lists) given
>  that it won't support filtering on newsgroup cross-posts any time soon, but
>  have had trouble finding an alternative.

slrn?  You'll still see multi-posts though (identical posts to
separate froups).  It's character based (like mutt), can be used with
GnuPG, has hooks for scoring, handles multiple servers easily, threads
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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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On Sunday 24 September 2006 20:11, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
> > i am going to mad for the support of canon ip 1000 :(
>
> You could try to convert the official drivers[0] via alien to Debian’s
> packagein format and install them. I did so with my iP4200 and it works
> like a charm.
>
> > any body using it.
>
> Was this a question.
>
>
> Regards, Mathias
>
> [0]
> http://software.canon-europe.com/Printers/Bubble_Jet_Printers/PIXMA_iP10001
>0104.asp
great to hear that, it's work for u.
i tried this process on sarge, but failed :( . the printer driver is on the 
list. but not working.


now i am going to try this on sid. 


can u tell me, the details procedure, that u done??
which packages need to install. all these 3 ??? 



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Re: start up problems

2006-09-24 Thread Mark Grieveson


Before a guru jumps in with the right answer, maybe I can at least
point you in the right direction. See below.

Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
> Hello.  I use Etch, and occasionally run into some start up problems.  
> As it's booting, it will read something like this:
> 
> PPDEV: user-space parallel port driver



Do you need the parallel port? If not, you could blacklist the relevant
module
  


No, I don't need the parallel port; so, this is probably a good idea.  
I'm not sure how to do this, though.


  

> DROPPED IN= OUT=PPRO PREC= MAC= SRC=123 456 789  ...



This looks like a message from the firewall. Did you activate it? What
frontend (shorewall, firestarter, ...)?
  


Yes, I did activate it.  It's Guarddog that I'm using.  Occasionally 
errors are reported with the firewall when it starts, too.


  
> And it just continues like this.  Eventually it will load, but it won't 
> connect to my adsl, and everything runs very slowly.  Rebooting 
> sometimes helps, and unplugging, and then replugging my adsl modem also 
> helps in re-establishing the connection.  It usually occurs after 
> loading this ppdev parallel port driver.
> 
> Is there something I can do about this?  Am I missing a library, or 
> package, or something that will prevent this?  Sometimes it boots up 
> fine, and I don't have to worry about it.  But more often then not I 
> have to reboot it (sometimes reboot numerous times) before it loads 
> correctly.
> 
> Mark



You should specify the type of ADSL, how did you configure it, when did
these problems start to appear (new package/hardware/application?), ...
Googleing for the error messages also works most of the time.
  


Ever since I got Etch going, I've been having these problems.  I 
configured the ADSL with pppoeconf.  I've not been able to use 
etherconf, for some reason.  I'm not sure what type of ADSL it is.  It's 
a phone line, if that's what you mean.  I was unable to use netinstall, 
because the connection is only recognized after running pppoeconf (this 
was true with Sarge, and it's true with all LiveCDs, ie, Knoppix or 
Ubuntu, as well). 



Regards,
Andrei


Thanks for your response,
Mark


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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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On Sunday 24 September 2006 22:33, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
> S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
>  i am going to mad for the support of canon ip 1000 :(
> >>>
> >>> You could try to convert the official drivers[0] via alien to Debians
> >>> packagein format and install them. I did so with my iP4200 and it works
> >>> like a charm.
> >>>[…]
> >
> > great to hear that, it's work for u.
> > i tried this process on sarge, but failed :( . the printer driver is on
> > the list. but not working.
>
> You mean within CUPS? Do you get any errors?
>
> > can u tell me, the details procedure, that u done??
>
> Not much; I downloaded the RPM-packages, converted them via alien,
> installed them and that’s it. I did use Turboprint before but am quite glad
> that the drivers work.
>
> > which packages need to install. all these 3 ???
>
> You must install the common package and the driver specific package. The
> third package only gives you some commandline tools for printing. (Which
> you probably won’t ever need.)
>
>
> Regards, Mathias

OK, i tried, but getting error :(

 
 " 
USB_Printer_1_with_status_readback_for_Canon_BJ 
"/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb 
failed"
"

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elinks proxy ssl error post data

2006-09-24 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Hello list,
I have installed elinks on my etch.
I have configured the browser to go through a proxy
server.
Connections are fine in both http and https, but when
I fill a form (eg: gmail or yahoo mail), I get:

"Unable to retrieve
proxy://1.2.3.4/https://www.google.com/.
(POST DATA)
SSL ERROR"

I have no problem with lynx, though.

I have tried to tamper with elinks.conf but no
success.
I wonder if anybody has the same problem or if anybody
has a clue or is it a Debian bug.

Thank you

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weak signal

2006-09-24 Thread Paras pradhan
hi:I am using debian sid with my netgear externel wireless card. I am using ndiswrapper. I found my wirless signal is very weak as compared to other machines that have windows OS.Can i tweak to make my strength better?
ThanksParas,


Re: must run alsaconf alll the time for sound to work

2006-09-24 Thread Vegard L. Rekaa
Hi again listPollywog, you seem to be right on the mark. I added the snd_pcm_ossto /etc/modules. Just be sure I did it right, I rebooted and ran alsaconf. I've been switching between different audio-using apps since, and I still got sound at Skype and Wine. So if this keeps up, yeah. I will keep checking today, and in case it goes bad againm I will repost here.
Mpeg123 was a typo, shoukd have been mpg321 wich is available trhough apt. Silly me.Thanks a bundle to all, cheers Vegard# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.## This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
# at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.
ide-cdide-diskide-genericpsmousenvidiasnd_pcm_oss~~On 23/09/06, Nelson Castillo <

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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
 i am going to mad for the support of canon ip 1000 :(
>>> You could try to convert the official drivers[0] via alien to Debians
>>> packagein format and install them. I did so with my iP4200 and it works
>>> like a charm.
>>>[…]
> great to hear that, it's work for u.
> i tried this process on sarge, but failed :( . the printer driver is on the 
> list. but not working.

You mean within CUPS? Do you get any errors?

> can u tell me, the details procedure, that u done??

Not much; I downloaded the RPM-packages, converted them via alien, installed
them and that’s it. I did use Turboprint before but am quite glad that the
drivers work.

> which packages need to install. all these 3 ??? 

You must install the common package and the driver specific package. The third
package only gives you some commandline tools for printing. (Which you probably
won’t ever need.)


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Re: Mouse Problems with KVM Switch

2006-09-24 Thread aladdin
On Sunday 24 September 2006 11:02, Michael Dominok wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 23.09.2006, 09:29 -0400 schrieb aladdin:
> > The one I have is a Belkin.  The one thing I haven't done is to try 
> > restarting X when it
> > happens, simply because I haven't gotten around to looking up the 
> > startup/shutdown
> > script, but this is almost as bad as rebooting.
> 
> I found out that sometimes it's sufficient to "refresh" X by switching
> to console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Michael
Yeah, I've tried that.  In fact, every so often, I try it again (you know the 
definition
of insanity- trying the same thing over and over again and thinking you'll get a
different result;-).  In my case, it doesn't work.

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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
> OK, i tried, but getting error :(
> 
>  
>  " 
> USB_Printer_1_with_status_readback_for_Canon_BJ 
> "/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb 
> failed"
> "

Hm not really much. Did you try the step-by-step installation which is explained
in the guide for your driver? Just imagine seeing „dpkg“ instead of „rpm“. The
rest should be the same for Debian too. (It’s basically restarting the CUPS
daemon, registering the printer and setting it as default. Something what a
postinst script could do.)

Oh, and could you post the relevant lines of your /var/log/cups/error_log? There
may be additional info.


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Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-24 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:34 -0400, Stephen wrote:
> One can endlessly debate the issue, but at the end of the day, if the 
> majority wish this to be implemented, then it should be done. The views of a 
> few, should never outweigh those of the majority, and it doesn't in the
> slightest prevent people from getting help. If an individual wants help,
> then the 5 second process of registering and confirmation is a very
> minor speed bump along the way to getting that help -- It's not like
> one is being asked to pay a fee for support.

I tend to think if a user is not competent enough to figure out how to
send a subscribe e-mail, and respond to the confirmation e-mail, using
Debian might be too big a challenge, with or without the help from this
list.

Hans


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Re: need a newsreader with decent filtering

2006-09-24 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 03:32:53PM + or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  Hi, I've given up on Thunderbird for newsreading (ISP's news server,
> >  news.mozilla.org and news.gmane.org for things like Debian lists) given
> >  that it won't support filtering on newsgroup cross-posts any time soon, but
> >  have had trouble finding an alternative.
> 
> slrn?  You'll still see multi-posts though (identical posts to
> separate froups).  It's character based (like mutt), can be used with
> GnuPG, has hooks for scoring, handles multiple servers easily, threads
> well, & etc.

slrn with leafnode and probably slrnpull, (don't know about the latter, as
I've never used it) can have the preferences set so that cross postings
won't be downloaded initially. I have Leafnode setup to not download
postings with more than 2 cross postings.

slrn's filtering is quite powerful, and with Leafnode, one can access
more than one nntp server. I wouldn't use anything else -- I've tried
others, but I keep going back to slrn/leafnode.

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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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On Sunday 24 September 2006 23:13, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
> S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
> > OK, i tried, but getting error :(
> >
> >
> >  "
> > USB_Printer_1_with_status_readback_for_Canon_BJ
> > "/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb failed"
> > "
>
> Hm not really much. Did you try the step-by-step installation which is
> explained in the guide for your driver? Just imagine seeing „dpkg“ instead
> of „rpm“. The rest should be the same for Debian too. (It’s basically
> restarting the CUPS daemon, registering the printer and setting it as
> default. Something what a postinst script could do.)
>
no, i just install these two packages "alien -i *.rpm "
any thing wrong here ?
> Oh, and could you post the relevant lines of your /var/log/cups/error_log?
> There may be additional info.
>
shanazsoft:/home/ibrahim/tmp/iP1000# cat /var/log/cups/error_log
E [23/Sep/2006:22:19:09 +0600] Creating missing 
directory "/var/run/cups/certs"
E [23/Sep/2006:22:22:47 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:22:52 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:24:41 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:25:25 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:26:30 +0600] CUPS-Delete-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:28:16 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:28:29 +0600] PID 30967 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster) 
stopped with status 1!
E [23/Sep/2006:22:29:02 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:32:02 +0600] PID 32223 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster) 
stopped with status 1!
E [23/Sep/2006:22:32:16 +0600] Pause-Printer: Unauthorized
E [23/Sep/2006:22:32:18 +0600] Pause-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:50:45 +0600] CUPS-Delete-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:50:49 +0600] CUPS-Delete-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:51:34 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:51:53 +0600] [Job 6] Unable to open USB port device file: No 
such file or directory
E [24/Sep/2006:22:51:53 +0600] PID 10170 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb) 
stopped with status 1!
E [24/Sep/2006:22:54:25 +0600] Resume-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:54:32 +0600] [Job 7] Unable to open USB port device file: No 
such file or directory
E [24/Sep/2006:22:54:32 +0600] PID 10379 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb) 
stopped with status 1!
E [24/Sep/2006:22:55:22 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:56:01 +0600] CUPS-Set-Default: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:57:06 +0600] Resume-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:22:57:06 +0600] PID 10585 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb) 
stopped with status 1!
E [24/Sep/2006:22:57:06 +0600] [Job 8] Unable to open USB port device file: No 
such file or directory
E [24/Sep/2006:22:57:06 +0600] [Job 8] pstocanonbj write error,32.
E [24/Sep/2006:22:57:06 +0600] PID 10584 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonbj) 
stopped with status 1!
E [24/Sep/2006:22:58:08 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:00:06 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:16:44 +0600] Pause-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:16:49 +0600] Pause-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:19:19 +0600] CUPS-Reject-Jobs: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:19:24 +0600] CUPS-Accept-Jobs: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:19:27 +0600] CUPS-Reject-Jobs: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:19:32 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:19:33 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:23:11 +0600] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:23:15 +0600] PID 14179 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb) 
stopped with status 1!
E [24/Sep/2006:23:23:15 +0600] [Job 9] Unable to open USB port device file: No 
such file or directory
E [24/Sep/2006:23:23:33 +0600] Resume-Printer: Unauthorized
E [24/Sep/2006:23:23:40 +0600] [Job 10] Unable to open USB port device file: 
No such file or directory
E [24/Sep/2006:23:23:40 +0600] PID 14201 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon_usb) 
stopped with status 1!

>
> Regards, Mathias

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Andrew Saunders

On 9/24/06, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


But then, Debian is all about "freedom".  Right?


Who said otherwise? I wasn't arguing that he cannot create a forum,
merely that he probably *should* not. Dialogue and commentary are
means of persuasion, not of force.

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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
> On Sunday 24 September 2006 23:13, Mathias Brodala wrote:
>>> Did you try the step-by-step installation which is
>>> explained in the guide for your driver? Just imagine seeing dpkg instead
>>> of rpm. The rest should be the same for Debian too. (Its basically
>>> restarting the CUPS daemon, registering the printer and setting it as
>>> default. Something what a postinst script could do.)
>>>
> no, i just install these two packages "alien -i *.rpm "
> any thing wrong here ?

Not necessarily. Just try the steps in the guide, maybe they are helpful.

>>> Oh, and could you post the relevant lines of your /var/log/cups/error_log?
>>> There may be additional info.
>>>
> shanazsoft:/home/ibrahim/tmp/iP1000# cat /var/log/cups/error_log
> [snip]

Sounds a bit familiar to me. Could you try purging cupsys and reinstalling it? I
stumbled upon a permission problem which seemed to be existing in CUPS for a
long time. After purging and reinstalling the permission could be set as they
should be.


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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread E0x
"Because a forum cannot be accessed via ssh over a crappy dial up
connection?  Believe it or not, many people here are on poor quality,or intermittent or metered connections.  They would rather read and
reply to mail than downloading images and other nonsense.  Besides, somefolks access their personal mail from work via ssh and mutt (or pine or
some other TUI MUA).  If one works in a place where things like forumsare filtered out, then they would not be able to participate as much.
Regards,-Roberto"
true and the netinstall of debian don't coming with ppp for dialup connecionsomething dont make sense..On 9/24/06, 
Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:05:22AM -0700, Raquel wrote:> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:45:20 -0500> Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 05:34:35PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> > > I would say that if you want to do it, then you should.  And> > > then advertise it like crazy.  There will be so many "nay> > > sayers" here that you'll become discourage very quickly.  Some
> > > people don't like change and will fight with all their strength> > > against something different.> >> > *sigh*  Why must people who disagree with your preference> > automatically "not like change"?
>> I only said that "some people" don't like change.  Why do you> purposely lump everyone who doesn't want a forum into that category?In the context in which you referred to "some people", it is common for
the phrase to mean "the people I was just talking about" (i.e., thosewho don't like forums) as a group, rather than a subset of that group.>  It seems you're trying to light a fire.While I was aware that my post might have that effect, that was not
my intent.  I read your initial post as an accusation that those whodon't like forums are only/primarily against them because they "don'tlike change".  As one who sees little to no value in forums over mailing
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Re: newsreader for Debian unstable with cross-posting/filtering controls

2006-09-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2006-09-23, Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I read newsgroups from my ISP's nntp server and from news.gmane.org.
>
> Many of the spam messages coming from news.gmane.org have a cross-post 
> to gmane.spam.detected.
>
> What newsreader packages are available in Debian unstable that have the 
> ability to filter (even if only mark as read) messages that can be 
> identified as spam by such a cross-post or by header/body contents?
>
> As far as I can tell, Thunderbird (which I currently use) does not have 
> this capability nor will it soon. I don't want to go quite as primitive 
> as tin, so I'm trying knews for now.
>
> Arthur.
>
>

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Re: few questions about xorg 7.1

2006-09-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 02:58:36PM +0200, Nicoco Kinlidex wrote:
> i've switched to opensource ati drivers as proprietary ones are broken 
> in sid (conflicts with xorg 7.1). whatever...
> 
> but you didn't answer ? is aiglx now part of debian ? will there be a 
> compiz package soon ?
> 
> I didn't find the answer to this question with google so I'm asking 
> here.
> 
> thanks
> 
> --
Hi Nicoco,
if there is a problem with the ati upstream, Debian can do nothing about
that. AIGLX, compiz and other new X features are not available from any
offical Debian sources AFAIK. They are planned, I'm sure but you'd have
to go to the source: the x strike force (aka the debian X maintainers).
They live on irc.debian.org on #debian-x. There you can ask them
yourself. This is the power of the free software community as no one can
talk to the creators of photoshop and ask how things are progressing and
you can even make a new friend or contribute to the effort.
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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:52:34AM -0400, E0x wrote:
> >
> >"Because a forum cannot be accessed via ssh over a crappy dial up
> >connection?  Believe it or not, many people here are on poor quality,
> >or intermittent or metered connections.  They would rather read and
> >reply to mail than downloading images and other nonsense.  Besides, some
> >folks access their personal mail from work via ssh and mutt (or pine or
> >some other TUI MUA).  If one works in a place where things like forums
> >are filtered out, then they would not be able to participate as much.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >-Roberto"
> >
> 
> 
> true and the netinstall of debian don't coming with ppp for dialup connecion
> something dont make sense..
> 

I don't see how the two are related.  Netinstall is an alternative
installation method.  If you don't have a good Internet connection, then
you can always order the full 14 CD set from any of a number of vendors.
Or, you could go to school or work or a friend's house and install there
and then take the machine home.  The point is that something like 50% of
everyone on the net is still on dialup.  Personally, I find myself using
lynx more and more often since it helps me view sites without a great
deal of clutter.

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Help, webcam on etch

2006-09-24 Thread Vegard L. Rekaa
Hi list.I'm ripping my hair out on trying to get a webcam to work. I've done google, and the manuals I've found so far have not helped.It is a USB cam with microphone. Specifications, see output of "lsusb -vv":
---lsusb -vv-Bus 003 Device 003: ID 041e:4038 Creative Technology, LtdDevice Descriptor:  bLength    18  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00  bDeviceClass    0 (Defined at Interface level)  bDeviceSubClass 0  bDeviceProtocol 0  bMaxPacketSize0    64  idVendor   0x041e Creative Technology, Ltd
  idProduct  0x4038  bcdDevice    1.02  iManufacturer   0  iProduct    1 Creative WebCam Live! Pro  iSerial 0  bNumConfigurations  1  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength 9    bDescriptorType 2    wTotalLength  101    bNumInterfaces  1    bConfigurationValue 1    iConfiguration  0    bmAttributes 0x80
  (Bus Powered)    MaxPower  500mA    Interface Descriptor:  bLength 9  bDescriptorType 4  bInterfaceNumber    0  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class  bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass  bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol  iInterface  0
  Endpoint Descriptor:    bLength 7    bDescriptorType 5    bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN    bmAttributes    1  Transfer Type    Isochronous
  Synch Type   None  Usage Type   Data    wMaxPacketSize 0x  1x 0 bytes    bInterval   1  Endpoint Descriptor:    bLength 7
    bDescriptorType 5    bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN    bmAttributes    3  Transfer Type    Interrupt  Synch Type   None  Usage Type   Data
    wMaxPacketSize 0x  1x 0 bytes    bInterval   4    Interface Descriptor:  bLength 9  bDescriptorType 4  bInterfaceNumber    0
  bAlternateSetting   1  bNumEndpoints   2  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class  bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass  bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  iInterface  0  Endpoint Descriptor:    bLength 7    bDescriptorType 5    bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN    bmAttributes    1
  Transfer Type    Isochronous  Synch Type   None  Usage Type   Data    wMaxPacketSize 0x1400  3x 0 bytes    bInterval   1
  Endpoint Descriptor:    bLength 7    bDescriptorType 5    bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN    bmAttributes    3  Transfer Type    Interrupt
  Synch Type   None  Usage Type   Data    wMaxPacketSize 0x0010  1x 16 bytes    bInterval   4    Interface Descriptor:  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4  bInterfaceNumber    0  bAlternateSetting   2  bNumEndpoints   2  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class  bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol  iInterface  0  Endpoint Descriptor:    bLength 7    bDescriptorType 5    bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
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Re: Program to draw chess boards

2006-09-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 05:01:00AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> [Sorry about the late post]
> 
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:45:58PM +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> > [Maybe a little offtopic]
> > 
> > I need to draw some chess boards, starting let's say from the FEN
> > description of the board, in an automatic way (something like a
> > script, good for automating the drawing of many boards). Is there any
> > program that do that?
> > 
> > Thnx
> > PAolo
> 
> If you find/found anything better that tex-{chess|skak} then could you
> please advise.
> 
> -- 
> Chris.
> ==
Hi Paolo,
tex maybe one way. If I had the inclination, I think I'd do this:
create a subroutine to read FEN descriptions
create a subroutine to convert that object to x,y notation
create a subroutine to create a chessboard with SVG
create a subroutine to place the pieces on the board with SVG
then maybe add an option to covert it to png if needed.
cheers,
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Re: WTF is binding "Control-O" key in Gnome apps?

2006-09-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 08:27:54AM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 09/23/2006 06:45 AM, Miles Bader wrote:
> >"Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>You can remap keys using xmodmap if you have to, but it might be your
> >>keyboard layout that needs fixing. When I type "grep XkbLayout
> >>/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" it says "us." Since you are using Xorg, your
> >>configuration file is probably differently named.
> >
> >Why do you think this is related to X keyboard mapping?
> >This "binding" only happens in Gnome apps, and ^O works fine in, for
> >instance, Emacs (running in its own window).
> >
> >Looking at the output of xmodmap -pk shows nothing odd, and xev shows
> >the following if I hit ^O (this is preceeded by the control-key event of
> >course):
> >
> >-- KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x221,
> >root 0x44, subw 0x222, time 3665002075, (36,52), root:(51,124),
> >state 0x4, keycode 32 (keysym 0x6f, o), same_screen YES,
> >XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0f) ""
> >XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0f) ""
> >XFilterEvent returns: False
> >
> >which is its expected value (0xF).
> >
> >{I've scoured various gnome settings files etc., though, and cannot find
> >any reference to it... it's driving me nuts!]
> >
> >-Miles
> >
> 
> Hmm, you're probably right. It's a setting within Gnome, but I can't 
> find it either. Try going into the gconf-editor and browsing the paths. 
> It might be in there somewhere.
> 
> The gconf-editor also has a search feature (Edit/Find). I searched for 
> "input-method" and "input method" but didn't find anything; however, 
> your system may be different, and you can think of other search terms 
> I'm sure.
> 
> You can also try yahoo:
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=gnome+input+method+change
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -- 
Hi Miles,
I was just thinking about the interaction between various parts of a
gnome enviroment:
console keyboard
  \/
x window keyboard
  \/
  input methods
  \/
  gdm
  \/
  gnome libraries
  \/
  gnome app

you asert that its not xmodmap. doesnt happen on console. doesnt happen
on other apps that operate in the gnome enviroment. so what parts of the
sequence from keyboard to gnome app are missing? Is this a new starndard
for gnome?
cheers,
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Re: weak signal

2006-09-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:02, Paras pradhan wrote:
> hi:
>
> I am using debian sid with my netgear externel wireless card. I am using
> ndiswrapper. I found my wirless signal is very weak as compared to other
> machines that have windows OS.

That would be an antenna issue, not an OS issue.  Try a different wireless 
card or a different external antenna.

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:26:57 +0100
"Andrew Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 9/24/06, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > But then, Debian is all about "freedom".  Right?
> 
> Who said otherwise? I wasn't arguing that he cannot create a
> forum, merely that he probably *should* not. Dialogue and
> commentary are means of persuasion, not of force.
> 
> But then, I suspect you already know this, and are simply
> trolling.
> 
> -- 
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> 

I've been here too many years to be trolling.  

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Re: newsreader for Debian unstable with cross-posting/filtering controls

2006-09-24 Thread John Hasler
Arthur Marsh writes:
> What newsreader packages are available in Debian unstable that have the
> ability to filter (even if only mark as read) messages that can be
> identified as spam by such a cross-post or by header/body contents?

Gnus.
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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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On Sunday 24 September 2006 23:38, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
> S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
>[snip]
>
> Sounds a bit familiar to me. Could you try purging cupsys and reinstalling
> it? I stumbled upon a permission problem which seemed to be existing in
> CUPS for a long time. After purging and reinstalling the permission could
> be set as they should be.
>
>
> Regards, Mathias
after restart the computer, now when i use "usb://Canon/iP1000" and jobs are 
showing finished after click on print (but nothing happen in printer)

but when useing "canon_usb:///dev/usb/lp0"
it's showing error the same error.


btw, i tested my printer with turboprint , it's working cool only problem is 
the logo.
though in the site, they are talking that, it's free for personal use.
but if it's print a logo, then how it's free ??? it's looks like trail.



i am from bangladesh, so i canno't buy the license :( 
can any body help me with this isue ?




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Re: start up problems

2006-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Before a guru jumps in with the right answer, maybe I can at least
> > point you in the right direction. See below.
> >
> > Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> > Hello.  I use Etch, and occasionally run into some start up problems.  
> >> > As it's booting, it will read something like this:
> >> > 
> >> > PPDEV: user-space parallel port driver
> >> 
> >
> > Do you need the parallel port? If not, you could blacklist the relevant
> > module
> >   
> 
> No, I don't need the parallel port; so, this is probably a good idea.  
> I'm not sure how to do this, though.

/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

> >> > DROPPED IN= OUT=PPRO PREC= MAC= SRC=123 456 789  ...
> >> 
> >
> > This looks like a message from the firewall. Did you activate it? What
> > frontend (shorewall, firestarter, ...)?
> >   
> 
> Yes, I did activate it.  It's Guarddog that I'm using.  Occasionally 
> errors are reported with the firewall when it starts, too.

You should make sure that the firewall is started *after* the internet
connection

> >   
> >> > And it just continues like this.  Eventually it will load, but it won't 
> >> > connect to my adsl, and everything runs very slowly.  Rebooting 
> >> > sometimes helps, and unplugging, and then replugging my adsl modem also 
> >> > helps in re-establishing the connection.  It usually occurs after 
> >> > loading this ppdev parallel port driver.
> >> > 
> >> > Is there something I can do about this?  Am I missing a library, or 
> >> > package, or something that will prevent this?  Sometimes it boots up 
> >> > fine, and I don't have to worry about it.  But more often then not I 
> >> > have to reboot it (sometimes reboot numerous times) before it loads 
> >> > correctly.
> >> > 
> >> > Mark
> >> 
> >
> > You should specify the type of ADSL, how did you configure it, when did
> > these problems start to appear (new package/hardware/application?), ...
> > Googleing for the error messages also works most of the time.
> >   
> 
> Ever since I got Etch going, I've been having these problems.  I 
> configured the ADSL with pppoeconf.  I've not been able to use 
> etherconf, for some reason.  I'm not sure what type of ADSL it is.  It's 
> a phone line, if that's what you mean.  I was unable to use netinstall, 
> because the connection is only recognized after running pppoeconf (this 
> was true with Sarge, and it's true with all LiveCDs, ie, Knoppix or 
> Ubuntu, as well). 
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrei
> 
> Thanks for your response,
> Mark

I'm not an expert on ADSL and besides, I have a USB modem, so I don't
think I can help you further then the two pointers above.

Regards,
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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) schrieb:
> after restart the computer, now when i use "usb://Canon/iP1000" and jobs are 
> showing finished after click on print (but nothing happen in printer)
> 
> but when useing "canon_usb:///dev/usb/lp0"
> it's showing error the same error.

Hm, too bad. I have no more idea what you could do else, sorry.

> btw, i tested my printer with turboprint , it's working cool only problem is 
> the logo.
> though in the site, they are talking that, it's free for personal use.
> but if it's print a logo, then how it's free ??? it's looks like trail.

When they say „it’s free“ then they mean, that you don’t have to pay for it when
in personal usage. They never claim that there are no limitations.

If you want to have your printer working and Turboprint is the only choice then
you should swallow the bitter pill and order a license.

> i am from bangladesh, so i canno't buy the license :( 

Why shouldn’t you? As I understand it you can order the license from anywhere
and let the keyfile be delivered to you. You can also write a mail to the
developer of Turboprint and ask for help.


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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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On Monday 25 September 2006 01:09, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
>[snip]
> If you want to have your printer working and Turboprint is the only choice
> then you should swallow the bitter pill and order a license.
>
> > i am from bangladesh, so i canno't buy the license :(
>
> Why shouldn’t you? As I understand it you can order the license from
> anywhere and let the keyfile be delivered to you. You can also write a mail
> to the developer of Turboprint and ask for help.
>
>
> Regards, Mathias

because, in bangladesh, the credit card is not available enough. and i don't 
have one. 

second, no other serveice can use here (like pay poll) :(
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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
 i am from bangladesh, so i canno't buy the license :(
>>> Why shouldnt you? […]
>>>
> 
> because, in bangladesh, the credit card is not available enough. and i don't 
> have one. 
> 
> second, no other serveice can use here (like pay poll) :(

What about prepayment? That’s the other possibility to pay other than via credit
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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
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On Monday 25 September 2006 01:22, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
> S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
>  i am from bangladesh, so i canno't buy the license :(
> >>>
> >>> Why shouldnt you? […]
> >
> > because, in bangladesh, the credit card is not available enough. and i
> > don't have one.
> >
> > second, no other serveice can use here (like pay poll) :(
>
> What about prepayment? That’s the other possibility to pay other than via
> credit card.
>
:( not available :((
>
> Regards, Mathias

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Re: canon ip 1000

2006-09-24 Thread Martin Mewes
Hello,

"S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>second, no other serveice can use here (like pay poll) :(

Can you use PayPal (www.paypal.com)?
Or trasnfers with Western Union or something like this?

Freundliche Grüße / kind regards

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Re: xserver-xorg install/configuration fails with "null value not permitted"

2006-09-24 Thread Morten O. Hansen
On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 14:49 -0700, RParr wrote:
> I am trying to add minimal X to a new installation and am getting a 
> failure during xserver-xorg configuration.
> 
> The console / curses display pop-up says "Null value not permitted" OK?
> 

http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=388568

Hope this helps.

With regards, Morten O. Hansen




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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:

> This thread started with someone complaining that forums.debian.net
> is too small with only ~7000 registered users - fragmenting the user
> base even more widely with your offering doesn't seem like it's going 
> to do much to help solve that problem.

  I think fragmentation is the biggest issue with the launching of
 any new community site, whether it is forums, or support sites.

  Right now my site has ~5400 registered users[0], and a larger number
 of unregistered people who regularly return.  I'd be quite interested
 to see what the overlap is between the different Debian sites.

  If it is low then it would suggest that multiple sites are OK,
 each with their own niche.  If it is high it might suggest that
 more consolidation is useful.

  (Although expecting site owners to merge their different code/users
 is going to be hard at best!)

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Re: WTF is binding "Control-O" key in Gnome apps?

2006-09-24 Thread José Alburquerque

Miles Bader wrote:


{I've scoured various gnome settings files etc., though, and cannot find
any reference to it... it's driving me nuts!]

-Miles

 

Miles, sorry didn't notice your thread earlier. :(  On my system I use 
the Keyboard Indicator applet for switching between keyboards (Is this 
what you mean by switching input methods?)


My system does not react to either CTRL-O or CTRL-SPACE in any way that 
I can notice in gnome apps.  I tried CTRL-O in bluefish (html editor) 
and it opened a file dialog so that I can "O"pen a file (as is shown in 
the file menu).


On my system, the Keyboard Indicator applet allows me to change which 
key combination changes keyboard.  I'm using sid now with gnome 2.14.  HTH.


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Re: Help, webcam on etch

2006-09-24 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 19:58 +0200, Vegard L. Rekaa wrote:
> I'm ripping my hair out on trying to get a webcam to work. I've done
> google, and the manuals I've found so far have not helped.
> 
> It is a USB cam with microphone. Specifications, see output of "lsusb
> -vv": 
> 
> ---lsusb
> -vv-
> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 041e:4038 Creative Technology, Ltd
> 
> What to do???


Hi,

Others seems to have similar problems,
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96614

Have you tried the spca5xx drivers?


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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Julian De Marchi wrote:
> I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing
> list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this?

Do a search in the archives and see how often this subject has come up.
Then realize there isn't really a prolific forum for Debian.  That should be
an indication of how much interest for such a forum exists on this list.

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Dave Sherohman wrote:
> So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
> compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
> fear of change? 

None as far as I can tell.  They're not properly threaded, there's no way
to easily and effectively killfile people or subjects, there is no filtering
Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in the mid-80s.
 Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me.

Then again, that's exactly what Windows users do all the time with the
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Re: bind keys for vt consoles

2006-09-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

cga2000 wrote:

On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 02:54:59PM EDT, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Things like xbindkeys bind keys for X.
Is there such a thing for non-X? The vt's?


What are you running in that console..?

Are we talking about a shell such as bash .. ?

What do you want to bind..?

Is it something like switching the CapsLock and left Ctrl key that you
have in mind .. ?



Under bash: I want to hit a key and have it execute a script or a 
program, or whatever.


With xbindkeys I have Alt+F11 bound to halt. Want to do the same in bash.

Thanks.

H


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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Steven.

Steve Lamb wrote:
> Dave Sherohman wrote:
>> So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
>> compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
>> fear of change? 
> 
> None as far as I can tell.  They're not properly threaded, there's no way
> to easily and effectively killfile people or subjects, there is no filtering
> Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in the mid-80s.
>  Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me.

It seems to me that a lot of people confuse boards with forums. The latter are
really lucid and can offer some features you are used to from mailing lists.
(Blacklisting of categories and posters, highlighting of topics and categories
and much more.)

So you are actually talking about mailinglist<->board here.


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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread John Kelly
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:16:03 -0700, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in
> the mid-80s.  Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me.

Webforums are too slow and cumbersome to read.  I can read 10 times
faster with my mail/news client than I can on a web forum.

Web forums are not better.  They're just a crutch for times when you
have to hobble around without a good email/news client.




Re: copy a dvd

2006-09-24 Thread Scarletdown
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 09:07 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> I don't have kde installed on my computer, and I use Etch, and I was 
> able to install k9copy (1.0.4.2-0.1), and run it (in either ion3, 
> fluxbox, or gnome).  So, k9copy does not require all of kde to run.  
> Whatever libraries, etc, that it does require will be installed via apt 
> (or synaptic, or aptitude).  Further, it is in the Etch multimedia (aka 
> marillat) repositories.  I feel you should reconsider and install it if 
> you'd like to copy dvds.  Just my two cents.

Personally, I think the most efficient method is vobcopy.

vobcopy -m will mirror the entire DVD, and in the proper structure, to
your hard drive.  Then you can simply use K3B to burn it to a DVD-R or
an iso file.




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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 24 September 2006 14:16, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Dave Sherohman wrote:
> > So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
> > compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
> > fear of change?
>
> None as far as I can tell.  They're not properly threaded, there's no
> way to easily and effectively killfile people or subjects, there is no
> filtering Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in
> the mid-80s. Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me.

Even BBS's had offline QWK packet readers for offline message reading...those 
often had more features than the BBS's internal message reader, and got all 
the phone line tie ups out of the way in advance...

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> Same here, Thank you very much!

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Make sure to specify that the money is intended for Debian. Since SPI 
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Re: bind keys for vt consoles

2006-09-24 Thread Wayne Topa
Hugo Vanwoerkom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> cga2000 wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 02:54:59PM EDT, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Things like xbindkeys bind keys for X.
> >>Is there such a thing for non-X? The vt's?
> >
> >What are you running in that console..?
> >
> >Are we talking about a shell such as bash .. ?
> >
> >What do you want to bind..?
> >
> >Is it something like switching the CapsLock and left Ctrl key that you
> >have in mind .. ?
> >
> 
> Under bash: I want to hit a key and have it execute a script or a 
> program, or whatever.
> 
> With xbindkeys I have Alt+F11 bound to halt. Want to do the same in bash.

I use .inputrc for that.

see /usr/share/readline/inputrc

Some of my .inputrc file
# Esc then m
"\em":"/usr/bin/mutt\C-M"
# Esc then f
"\ef":"/usr/bin/mc\C-M"
#Esc then t
"\et":"/usr/bin/htop\C-M"
DEL: backspace
# Reset terminal on F1
"\033[[A": "reset\C-M"
# mutt on F11
"ESC[23~": "mutt\C-M"
# getmail on F12
"ESC[24~": "bin/domail\C-M"

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Julian De Marchi
The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist
is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
instead of using the maillist to ask for problems which have already been
addressesed. Is'nt it funny that, when the topic is first mentioned, not
many people have anything to say. But when someone does something,
everyone has their two cents to add in.

I am NOT trying to take over any of the other forums. Sorry if it seemed
that way. I wish to create a place for people to talk about more in depth
problems, where the answers can be archived and retrived by all. Forums
will never beat mailling lists!

I am aware that there are other forums out there. I am just trying to give
back to the Debian community, as I have been giving so much.

Please appreciate my efforts, and instead of trying to tell me it is
wrong, give useful suggestions.


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rcS.d

2006-09-24 Thread Marc
Hi there,
I have a feeling that I have a problem with the sysinit scripts (rcS.d)
I put additional modules to be loaded (e.g. ip_nat_ftp) into
/etc/modules, however they are not loaded when the system boots.
I have executed /etc/rcS.d/S20module-init-tools manually, which does
what it should. Now I guess there's a problem with the whole
S-runlevel. Where is it logged? How can I find out what happens during
the sysinit phase?
Regards,
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Re: must run alsaconf alll the time for sound to work

2006-09-24 Thread José Alburquerque

Vegard L. Rekaa wrote:

I was not able to test this, since mpeg123 is no longer available 
trhough apt (how come?). Either way I reinstalled all crucial 
ALSA-packages, including the oss-emulation package. This had no effect 
on my problem.


I think that 'mpg321' is designed to work as an 'mpg123' replacement and 
it is available for etch. :-)


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re: not able to purge a kernel

2006-09-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
That script in 2.6.16 has to be defective somehow.  The last kernel I was 
able to install on this box was 2.6.12 and though it's out of date it 
installed with no incidents like this.  I made a similar mistake and tried 
to install 2.6.17 earlier and that failed on installation.




On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Fred J. wrote:




Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it would have purged 
successfully if you had been running 2.6.15
at the time of the attempted purge.  I think you were running 2.6.16 and
debian doesn't like to purge a running kernel.  Suggestion would be to
comment out the kernel line down toward the bottom of menu.lst for kernel
2.6.16 and reboot the computer and see if you get kernel 2.6.15 up you can
do uname -ar to find out or look at the screen as it comes up in the very
beginning.  Then try that purge again.


ii  linux-image-2.6.15-1-686  2.6.15-8   Linux kernel 2.6.15 
image on PPro/Celeron/PI
ii  linux-image-2.6.16.1  2.6.16.1-10.00.Custom  Linux kernel binary 
image for version 2.6.16

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.16.1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED
 linux-image-2.6.16.1*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 44.7MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
(Reading database ... 85385 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-2.6.16.1 ...
Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

The link /vmlinuz is a damaged link
Removing symbolic link vmlinuz
Unless you used the optional flag in lilo,
you may need to re-run your boot loader[lilo]
Purging configuration files for linux-image-2.6.16.1 ...
Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.16.1 (--purge):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128
Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-2.6.16.1
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ firefox -safe-mode&
[1] 5079

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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist
> is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
> instead of using the maillist to ask for problems which have already been
> addressesed. Is'nt it funny that, when the topic is first mentioned, not
> many people have anything to say. But when someone does something,
> everyone has their two cents to add in.
> 
> I am NOT trying to take over any of the other forums. Sorry if it seemed
> that way. I wish to create a place for people to talk about more in depth
> problems, where the answers can be archived and retrived by all. Forums
> will never beat mailling lists!
> 
> I am aware that there are other forums out there. I am just trying to give
> back to the Debian community, as I have been giving so much.
> 
> Please appreciate my efforts, and instead of trying to tell me it is
> wrong, give useful suggestions.

A major difficulty with this suggestion is, IMHO, the question of
expert resources, that is to say the time of people whose answers to
questions are actually useful. These people seem not to be interested
in yet another forum/list/whatever that they feel obliged to
watch. (At least this is the impression I get from the responses that
I have seen to other, prior suggestions of this general sort.) I think
the 'good answer people' are a scarce resource that should be handled
carefully. Personnally, I fail to see how this proposal would use this
scarce resource more effectively, so I am fearful about giving it a
try. What happens if the 'good answer people' stop paying attention
and stop noticing to pleas for help? Not good.
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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Julian De Marchi
Good point. Not much more I can say in response to your message. Cat got
my tounge i spose. I would like to see the forum have a fair go anywhos
and see if it can actually become usefull and not just a waste of
resources. Rermeber it is not to take over the maillinglist, but as a
palce to tlak in depth about problems and off topic talk.

Here is the site again.

http://debian.jdcomputers.com.au


On Mon, September 25, 2006 11:18 am, Paul E Condon said:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
>> The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but
>> assist
>> is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
>> instead of using the maillist to ask for problems which have already
>> been
>> addressesed. Is'nt it funny that, when the topic is first mentioned, not
>> many people have anything to say. But when someone does something,
>> everyone has their two cents to add in.
>>
>> I am NOT trying to take over any of the other forums. Sorry if it seemed
>> that way. I wish to create a place for people to talk about more in
>> depth
>> problems, where the answers can be archived and retrived by all. Forums
>> will never beat mailling lists!
>>
>> I am aware that there are other forums out there. I am just trying to
>> give
>> back to the Debian community, as I have been giving so much.
>>
>> Please appreciate my efforts, and instead of trying to tell me it is
>> wrong, give useful suggestions.
>
> A major difficulty with this suggestion is, IMHO, the question of
> expert resources, that is to say the time of people whose answers to
> questions are actually useful. These people seem not to be interested
> in yet another forum/list/whatever that they feel obliged to
> watch. (At least this is the impression I get from the responses that
> I have seen to other, prior suggestions of this general sort.) I think
> the 'good answer people' are a scarce resource that should be handled
> carefully. Personnally, I fail to see how this proposal would use this
> scarce resource more effectively, so I am fearful about giving it a
> try. What happens if the 'good answer people' stop paying attention
> and stop noticing to pleas for help? Not good.
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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Julian De Marchi
The people who help out will always be there. They help out, not becuase
the have to, but becuase they enjoy helping people. Anywayz not much i can
say in response to your message, as all your points are very valid.

I would like to see the forum work out as, the second palce to go if the
mailing list does not help. And the palce to go for in depth solutions to
problems and a place to through ideas around and talk "off topic".

Here is the address again:

http://debian.jdcomputers.com.au



On Mon, September 25, 2006 11:18 am, Paul E Condon said:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
>> The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but
>> assist
>> is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
>> instead of using the maillist to ask for problems which have already
>> been
>> addressesed. Is'nt it funny that, when the topic is first mentioned, not
>> many people have anything to say. But when someone does something,
>> everyone has their two cents to add in.
>>
>> I am NOT trying to take over any of the other forums. Sorry if it seemed
>> that way. I wish to create a place for people to talk about more in
>> depth
>> problems, where the answers can be archived and retrived by all. Forums
>> will never beat mailling lists!
>>
>> I am aware that there are other forums out there. I am just trying to
>> give
>> back to the Debian community, as I have been giving so much.
>>
>> Please appreciate my efforts, and instead of trying to tell me it is
>> wrong, give useful suggestions.
>
> A major difficulty with this suggestion is, IMHO, the question of
> expert resources, that is to say the time of people whose answers to
> questions are actually useful. These people seem not to be interested
> in yet another forum/list/whatever that they feel obliged to
> watch. (At least this is the impression I get from the responses that
> I have seen to other, prior suggestions of this general sort.) I think
> the 'good answer people' are a scarce resource that should be handled
> carefully. Personnally, I fail to see how this proposal would use this
> scarce resource more effectively, so I am fearful about giving it a
> try. What happens if the 'good answer people' stop paying attention
> and stop noticing to pleas for help? Not good.
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Re: df and du disagree, or "How to get 1.1GB of data onto a 650MB CD"

2006-09-24 Thread Rob Sims
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 11:50:53PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  Original Message 
> From: Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: df and du disagree, or "How to get 1.1GB of data onto a 650MB CD"
> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:41:09 -0600
 
> >> I also have an empty directory:
> >> poota:~# ls -l temp/
> >> total 0

> >> Then I mount the iso, loopback style:
> >> mount image.iso temp/ -o loop

> >What is the file system? Is it a compressed file system? Also, ls -l
> >won't show you all files in temp; try ls -al, though that isn't the
> >problem here.

> Hi Rob. The filesystem that provides the mount point is ext3. As
> for the iso file, "file" says that it's just "ISO 9660 CD-ROM
> filesystem data. Once the iso is mounted (using loopack),
> /proc/mounts says "/dev/loop0 /root/temp iso9660 ro 0 0" so I
> assume the iso file really is just straight iso9660.

Sounds like there may be some hard linked files.  You won't be able to
see that directly, but if you find some identical files, I'd suspect
they share data space on the disc.

mkisofs apparently will create such discs if it detects hard links on
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Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:18:32 -0600
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A major difficulty with this suggestion is, IMHO, the question of
> expert resources, that is to say the time of people whose answers
> to questions are actually useful.

I think that, given time, it will all sort out.  Some may not want
to go anywhere but here.  Others may find they like a forum more. 
Some may find that they are heard better in one place or the other,
and that's a good thing.

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Re: Debian Love

2006-09-24 Thread Jay Zach
Jason Martens wrote:
> It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
> thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
> is such an awesome project.  I love Debian. I love how the system works.
> I love the quality of the packages.  I love that it lets me do what I
> want to do, and does not try to dictate how to do things. 
> 
> To all of you Debian developers, thank you.  I really appreciate the
> work you do. Keep it up!
> 
> Jason Martens
> Debian Lover
> 
> 

I'd like to give everyone who works on Debian a hearty thumbs up, and
thank you.  I really started with Linux in '98, and played the distro
shuffle until about 3 years ago when I really got going with Debian.
Since then, it's been the only full distro that I've run.  It's all
about quality.
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Re: last attempt with pan newsreader

2006-09-24 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:44:06 + (UTC)
"Arthur Marsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone persisted with the pan newsreader. I'm about to ditch it after
> a few reportbug submissions /-: for problems including lockups.

What version/ distribution? Pan worked OK here, but the version that's
in debian now would lock up reading some largish newsgroups - it's
memory requirements are tremendous.

The more recent beta builds (they release weekly snapshots on
pan2.rebelbase.com) may work better for you. They are not that
difficult to build on etch.

> Arthur.


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message....... No Subject

2006-09-24 Thread M-L
Using Etch and Kmail.

I receive messages from the Debian User list that are:-

No Subject  Sender Unknown . dated 1970

 doesn't work nor does  but rather creates more of its own 
kind? Cloning itself over others that are deleted from the Debian User 
directory?

But it does this by removing other list posts and they are found in trash as 

No Subject  Sender Unknown . dated 1970

What is this?

TIA
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k3b error (etch)

2006-09-24 Thread Ken Moffat
Just installed k3b on etch netinstall (rc3) and when I run it as user 
and try to run k3bsetup I get the error:


kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'k3bsetup2'.

Anyone have a fix? I installed k3b using apt-get.

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RE: apt-build

2006-09-24 Thread Deepak Kumar Tripathi
Title: RE: apt-build






Hi i am using apt-build.
and i wrote two patch for it also one for show tha catch package and one for search.

anyway i am working for changing the comilation script for different -different architecture.


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any body here using apt-build ??
i am interested to use it to get optimized package for my em64t (i don't
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Odd Thing ? usb drive

2006-09-24 Thread Richard
here something, odd my usb (backup) drive, was acting alittle odd,
when trying to delete a folder off it, then copying a folder from the usb
drive to main desktop drive stalled several time.

Is there a Liinux command to check to see if the usb (fat32) drive
is having a problem, or maybe corruption or sorts?

What command string would I used, to run a full test ( non destructed)
to see what's going on with it.

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AND if there is a problem, I will copy a few more files over, then re-format 
the disk -- WHICH format structure should I used, UFS or Ext3 ? or should I 
go back to fat 32

Or maybe I should ask ( which) is the lest prone to corruption, and 
problems...

Thanks -


Rich
Newbie - Novice


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Re: rcS.d

2006-09-24 Thread Mumia W..

On 09/23/2006 05:22 PM, Marc wrote:

Hi there,
I have a feeling that I have a problem with the sysinit scripts (rcS.d)
I put additional modules to be loaded (e.g. ip_nat_ftp) into
/etc/modules, however they are not loaded when the system boots.
I have executed /etc/rcS.d/S20module-init-tools manually, which does
what it should. Now I guess there's a problem with the whole
S-runlevel. Where is it logged? How can I find out what happens during
the sysinit phase?
Regards,
Marc




You can enable boot-logging in /etc/default/bootlogd. Logging will 
probably appear in /var/log.



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