date:20040901


hi ya roger

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Roger Creasy wrote:

> > > what is the chipset ?? ( run lspci )
> > 
> > I did run lspci. It did not find my wireless card. Could this be the problem?

..

> OK. I have the output from lspci, but I have to run it then write down the output 
> and type it in, so there could be typos.
> 
> :00:00.0 Host Bridge:VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3] (rev 04) 
> :00:01.0 PCI Bridge:VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694X  [Apollo MVP3/Pro133X 
> AGP]
> :00:07.0 ISA Bridge:VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/A/B PCI-to-ISA   [Apollo VP] 
> (rev 47)
> :00:07.1 IDE interface:VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/A/B/VT823X/A/C PIPC Bus 
> Master (rev 06)
> :00:07.3 PCI Bridge:VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B ACPI (rev 10)
> :00:08.0 Ethernet controller:MYSON Technology, Inc Surecom EP-320X-S 100/10M 
> Ethernet PCI Adapter
# 
# presumably that is your (wired) nic card
#
> :01:00.0 VGA Compatible controller:Silicone Integrated Systems[SIS] 
> 86C3265598/6326 (rev 0b)
>
> Does this help? What does it mean?

it means you're hosed ... lspci ( and other hw drivers ) does NOT
recognize your wirless card ( pcmcia or pci card ... )
- usually a problem of the old mb not talking the new pci-2.x
standards

plug that wireless card into a different ( newer ) system
and see if you get a different "ethernet controller"

c ya
alvin

> Thanks for all of the help,
> 
>  
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
>   
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updates

2004-09-01 Thread vik

Microsoft Windows XP Professional - 50
Easy CD & DVD Creator 6 - 29 
Symantec WinFax PRO v10.03 - 40
Macromedia Studio MX 2004 - 180
Easy CD & DVD Creator 6 - 29 
Microsoft Office XP Professional - 100
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition - 200
Microsoft Windows XP Professional - 50
Quark Express 6.0 - 60   
Macromedia Studio MX 2004 - 180

and a lot more http://www.goinsoftwar.info/


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Re: Using LILO on non-linux disk



On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David Baron wrote:

> Right now, my "c" disk is a Win98 disk and my "d" disk has linux and windows
> audio data partitions. I use bootmagic. If I choose linux, I get the LILO
> screen which can boot my linux or do the windows, etc.
> 
> Can I use LILO directly, bypassing the bootmagic entirely--that is reference
> lilo.conf to the "c" disk "/dev/hdba" and when I boot, go directly to LILO

"/dev/hdba" is bad ... something whacky ...
- you should avoid typo mistakes in lilo.conf

windoze is usually /dev/hda1  ( aka C: )  and best to keep it that way on
/dev/hda1

linux hopefully is on a different disk say /dev/hdc

> and choose linux or windows?

yup... lilo can overwrite the MBR to boot either linux or windoze

- make sure you nave a windoze boot floppy and a linux-boot floppy

lilo.conf examples have info for setting up the dual-boot with windoze
- watch out for partition numbers
 
c ya
alvin


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No flames please.

2004-09-01 Thread spencer ward

Hi,
I recently change to debian and notice that
the default desktop mgr. is KDE. I've been
lurking on UserLinux  and the group had
a debate as to which desktop they would
put in thier distrobution. They decided to
use GNOME because of the licencing of
Qt. I thought that Troll Co. removed the
restriction they had on Qt. So, the question
is are there any restriction on the use of Qt?
TIA.
Wayne


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Re: keyboard not working after upgrade

2004-09-01 Thread Kent West

Nicolas de Sereville wrote:
I am running debian testing (kernel 2.6.6) and yesterday I upgraded 
some packages (vim, xemacs, *kdm*, ...). Now my keyboard is not 
working anymore when kdm asks me for the user and password. I can use 
the keyboard to choose the OS I want to boot from lilo, but when the x 
session begins it stops working. I can only enter in my box from 
another computer through ssh.

(==) ServerLayout "Server Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Graphics Adapter"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "es"
(**) XKB: layout: "es"
(**) Mouse1: Buttons: 5
(II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver
 

I would suggest ssh'ing in, and shutting down kdm ("/etc/init.d/kdm 
stop"). Does your keyboard work at the console now? If not, I'd disable 
kdm temporarily (about a dozen ways to do this) and reboot; does your 
keyboard work at the console?

If the keyboard works at the console, you know the problem is either X- 
or KDE/KDM-related.   I'd then take KDE/KDM out of the picture, and 
start X with a different wm/environment, such as icewm (just create a 
"~/.xinitrc" with the single line "icewm" (you may need to "apt-get 
install icewm") and start X with "startx"). Does the keyboard work? If 
so, you know the problem is KDE/KDM-related; if not, you know the 
problem is X-related.

You can reconfigure X with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86". I assume 
you're wanting the "es" (Spanish?) layout? Most US-ian keyboards are 
PC104 instead of PC105. I'm not sure what that "legacy driver" thing is.

Let us know the results of these tests.
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Key Mapping: .Xdefaults -- translataions

2004-09-01 Thread Bill Moseley

I've got this in my .Xdefaults:

   mutt.vt100.translations:  #override \n\
None:  string(<<) \n\
None:  string(>>) \n

which generates << and >> from my mouse scroll wheel.

Then in .muttrc I have:

bind pager < previous-line
bind pager > next-line

The problem then is I use vim as my mutt editor and those translations
still happen.  If I hit the scroll wheel I end up with >> and
<< all over the place (Yes, I'm also using set mouse=a in .vimrc).

Is there a trick to unbind those mappings when vim starts and also
restore them when vim exits back to mutt?


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Re: No flames please.

2004-09-01 Thread Nicos Gollan

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 03:57:58 -0400
spencer ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently change to debian and notice that
> the default desktop mgr. is KDE. I've been
> lurking on UserLinux  and the group had
> a debate as to which desktop they would
> put in thier distrobution. They decided to
> use GNOME because of the licencing of
> Qt. I thought that Troll Co. removed the
> restriction they had on Qt. So, the question
> is are there any restriction on the use of Qt?

That discussion is (or at least should be) long over. The free
Linux/Unix/MacOSX Qt is licensed under the GPL.

http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/freelicense.html

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Re: snmpd.conf not available...?

2004-09-01 Thread Hans Hofker

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 03:50:36PM +0530, Nayyar Ahmed wrote:
> 
> I have installed SNMP through following command. As i want
> to configure MRTG for my DSL router.
> 
> debian:/home/neenix/# apt-get install snmp

> but i cant find snmpd.conf in my system.

You can find /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf in the "snmpd" package (not the "snmp"
package).

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Re: cannot modprobe toshiba_acpi

2004-09-01 Thread Chris Bradshaw

I have the same problem :-(.  According to the toshiba_acpi author:

/*Another important note:*/ This driver does not work on all Toshiba 
laptops, particularly those models which seem to have a BIOS or other 
firmware which was not developed by Toshiba itself. New reverse 
engineering work will have to be done on these machines, or Toshiba will 
have to disclose the necessary details. The error you will see in this 
case is:

$ modprobe toshiba_acpi
FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi
(.../kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device
   


see toshiba_acpi  page at   http://memebeam.org/toys/ToshibaAcpiDriver
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MRTG for remote Interface..?

2004-09-01 Thread Nayyar Ahmed

Hello All,
I have Configured MRTG for my machine Local Interface i.e
IP : 192.168.1.252

Now I want to observe the Trafice of my DSL router who's 
IP : 192.168.1.1
Which is my Network Gateway as well.

where and what changes needed in MRTG configuration ?.

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Re: Tux logo, Nvidia drivers, and framebuffer

2004-09-01 Thread Brian Pack

On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 01:23, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Brian Pack wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 13:16, Alvin Oga wrote:
> >> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Brian Pack wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm making progress. By adding video=vesa vga=0x317 I get a blank screen
> >>> up to the point that X starts. That's not a problem for now, because I
> >>> know I'm on the right track. I'm recompiling a kernel right now that has
> >>> vesa included, and not a module, as well as console framebuffer support.
> >>
> >> the blank screen means you dont have the proper frame buffer defined
> >> ( same probelm as my stuff ... just need to tweek the various fb options )
> >>
> >>> Once I get that, *then* I can start playing with the bootsplash patch.
> >>
> >> i'd do the same tests ( same kernel ) on machines that you know worked
> >> on other distro ( like suse-9.1 has splash by default ) so it should
> >> work for deb's splash too
> >>- not all mb and not all chipsets are "the same" :-)
> >>
> >> yup...  and when you're done .. you can come play on my brain-dead mb too
> >> with gazillion different chipset to see which works and which does not
> >> support tux on boot or splash
> >
> > I compiled a new kernel, with vesa included instead of a module, same
> > for console framebuffer. Added video=vesa and vga=0x317 in menu.lst for
> > grub.
> >
> > I've got Tux! :)
> >
> >
> But you won't be enjoying all the features that your vga card (Nvidia)
> is capable of. If the kernel has support for Nvidia include it too. Find
> the arguments required to pass to the Nvidia module. And try with that.
> You might get better results. I had the same on my Intel 815e chipset mb
> with on-board vga where I used Intel FB which rocks better than vesa.

Are you certain about that? The nvidia logo pops up when x starts, so
I'm pretty sure I've got the drivers running properly at that point.



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Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Rthoreau

I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
weird. Here is the full headers.
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Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received:(qmail 2491 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 19:30:28 -
Received:from unknown (HELO prdmx8.nwk.iwon.com) ([10.50.30.74]) 
(envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 30 Aug 2004 19:30:28 -
Return-Path:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received:from x8v9x9.org (pool-141-151-76-183.phil.east.verizon.net 
[141.151.76.183]) by prdmx8.nwk.iwon.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 
3BC193402A
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:30:21 -0500
To: "Rthoreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From:"Debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ Add to Address Book | Block Address | Report as Spam ]
Subject:Changes..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version:   1.0
Content-Type:   multipart/mixed;

boundary="xopocqfutjsamolnbamw"
X-FII-Tracking: 0.261194

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Here is the reverse DNS info:
141.151.76.183 PTR record: pool-141-151-76-183.phil.east.verizon.net. 
[TTL 86400s] [A=141.151.76.183]

I just wanted to warn people about forged headers, The E-mail had an 
vbs attachment with it, which is even more funny.  Anyway be aware of 
forged headers, this is the first I have seen, I will keep the 
E-mail, is their anything I can do to help stop this. I gave up on 
emailing abuse as most times it does not work, or return address is 
wrong.

Rthorea


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Gnuplot 4 on Woody : no Xterm

2004-09-01 Thread alberto

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Hi all, 

I have downloaded and compiled gnuplot 4 from sources. 
Everything seems to be working...but X! 
At start, I et the message: 

  Terminal type set to 'unknown'

Infact, If  I try to set X as terminal: 
gnuplot> set term X11
  ^
 unknown or ambiguous terminal type; type just 'set terminal'
for a list

The thing is, that file /usr/src/gnuplot-4.0.0/term/x11.trm, exists. 
Any idea how to fix this? 

ciao
a.


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newbie Xlib install/configure question

2004-09-01 Thread Mark D. Hansen

I've been running a debian server for a while with no X11.  I access it from SSH on a 
MS Windows machine.  Now, I want to be able to use X11.  So, I installed xlibs 
(apt-get install xlibs).  It installed OK, but I can't run "startx".  I get the 
following:

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No 
such file or directory
giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  unexpected signal 2.

What have I done wrong?  Can I run X11 over an SSH connection from a MS Windows 
machine?

Thanks,

Mark

How can I check if defoma is working correctly?

2004-09-01 Thread Josef Oswald


I install msttcorefonts and I use defoma.  I have not installed any 
additional fonts other then those which came with the msttcorefonts
package. I could add more from my Windows98 directory 

now in xfontsel in the "microsoft" section I see only comic san;
georgia; trebuchet; verdana; webdings, are those the only ones that come
with the msttcorefonts package? 

Now if I do install others from  Win98, how do I tell defoma that new
fonts are to be included? 

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Re: Gtk-Gnutella "disconnecting"

2004-09-01 Thread Nomen Nescio

> Gtk-Gnutella has become less than reliable recently. Version 
> 0.94-stable running on up to date Sid on DSL.
> 
> After anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours, with no pattern that I've 
> been able to see except that all 3 "peers" remain connected but the 
> network indicator in the lower left goes from a "conected" to 
> "disconnected" red X. No uploads or downloads happen after that, of 
> course, but all the while the peer sessions are alive and well.

I recommend mutella instead, much more stable.


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Problemer.

2004-09-01 Thread Ricki Jensen

Hej Debian..
Jeg downloadet debian for noget tid siden, men jeg kan ik finde ud af fjerne 
det igen for jeg skal ha windows på igen..
Håber i vel hjælpe mig..

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Help with Dependencies

2004-09-01 Thread Wade Smith




Hi all, new subscriber here.
 
I have looked all over the place for a solution to 
my trouble, finally turning to this list for some hope.
 
I am running Debian Linux on a SPARC64 box.  I 
attempted to do "apt-get dist-upgrade".
 
The upgrade was going fine, then it reached a point 
where it errored out.  Aftwerwards, I am unable to perform any kind of 
upgrade to the packages on the system.  Here is the typical messages I get 
back from apt-get:
 

debian:/etc/apt# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libc6-sparc64
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 84 not
upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 4185kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main libc6-sparc64 2.2.5-11.5
[4185kB]
Fetched 4185kB in 13s (311kB/s)
(Reading database ... 38550 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libc6-sparc64 2.2.5-11.2 (using
.../libc6-sparc64_2.2.5-11.5_sparc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6-sparc64 ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-sparc64_2.2.5-11.5_sparc.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/lib/64', which is also in package gcc-3.0
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-sparc64_2.2.5-11.5_sparc.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
debian:/etc/apt#
 
here is a summary of apt-get:
 
 
debian:/etc/apt# apt-get check
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
libc6-dev-sparc64: Depends: libc6-sparc64 (= 2.2.5-11.5) but
2.2.5-11.2 is installed
libc6-sparc64: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.5-11.2) but 2.2.5-11.5 is
installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
debian:/etc/apt#
 
 
I'm sure there is a simple fix to this trouble, I simply 
have been unable to locate it.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Wade

Re: keyboard not working after upgrade

2004-09-01 Thread Nicolas de Sereville

Kent West wrote:
Nicolas de Sereville wrote:
I am running debian testing (kernel 2.6.6) and yesterday I upgraded 
some packages (vim, xemacs, *kdm*, ...). Now my keyboard is not 
working anymore when kdm asks me for the user and password. I can use 
the keyboard to choose the OS I want to boot from lilo, but when the x 
session begins it stops working. I can only enter in my box from 
another computer through ssh.

(==) ServerLayout "Server Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Graphics Adapter"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "es"
(**) XKB: layout: "es"
(**) Mouse1: Buttons: 5
(II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver
 

I would suggest ssh'ing in, and shutting down kdm ("/etc/init.d/kdm 
stop"). Does your keyboard work at the console now? If not, I'd disable 
kdm temporarily (about a dozen ways to do this) and reboot; does your 
keyboard work at the console?
OK, I shut down kdm as you suggested after ssh'ing. Unfortunately I 
cannot check if the keyboard work since I am at work and my box is at 
home. I will let you know tonight when I go home. By disabling kdm 
temporarily, do you mean that after reboot X is not started? If so, how 
can I achieve it?

If the keyboard works at the console, you know the problem is either X- 
or KDE/KDM-related.   I'd then take KDE/KDM out of the picture, and 
start X with a different wm/environment, such as icewm (just create a 
"~/.xinitrc" with the single line "icewm" (you may need to "apt-get 
install icewm") and start X with "startx"). Does the keyboard work? If 
so, you know the problem is KDE/KDM-related; if not, you know the 
problem is X-related.
It sounds very logical. I installed icewm to make the checks tonight.
You can reconfigure X with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86". I assume 
you're wanting the "es" (Spanish?) layout? Most US-ian keyboards are 
PC104 instead of PC105. I'm not sure what that "legacy driver" thing is.
Yes I am in Spain with a spanish keyboard. My /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file 
was generated by the ATI driver to have 3D acceleration and the TV-out 
enabled. Instead of "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", I guess I can 
reconfigure X with the ATI tools. Anyway, my keyboard used to work 
before yesterday without any problem.


Let us know the results of these tests.
Thank you very much for your ideas and I will let you know as soon as 
possible.

Nico
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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Richard Lyons

On Wednesday 01 September 2004 14:17, Rthoreau wrote:
> I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
> weird. 
[...]

Yes, I've had a few recently.

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Re: Howto Observe My DSL Router Traffice Load...?

2004-09-01 Thread Tim Kelley

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 01:30:52PM +0530, Nayyar Ahmed wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I am connected to a DSL Router in my office who's IP is 
> 192.168.1.1 and i wana check its traffice load and Bandwidth 
> consumption...how can I as my machine IP is 192.168.1.252

You could use mrtg or munin for this (both have debian packages).
Munin is much easier to set up and more flexible.

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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Brian Pack

On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 10:20, Richard Lyons wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 September 2004 14:17, Rthoreau wrote:
> > I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
> > weird. 
> [...]
> 
> Yes, I've had a few recently.
> 

I'd have to say the vast majority of spam I've received in the last
month was actually addressed to debian-user, and not my regular address.

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Testing mailing list....

2004-09-01 Thread Will Ness

This is a test only, please ignore and do not reply. (Newbie at work).
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Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian

2004-09-01 Thread Marco d'Itri

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Is there a consensus about that? I mean, I've seen many people say that 
>the newsgroup gateway is unidirectional (from mailinglist to gateway), 
>and my own experience confirms that.
This is not a matter of opinions: the linux.debian.* mail2news gateway
*IS* bidirectional, full stop.

>But in another post here, Marco d'Itri (who is the administrator of 
>linux.* and runs bofh.it according to Pascal Hakim) says
>
>"If one reads a debian mailing list in a linux.debian.* group and
>wants to reply to the list he is supposed to followup to the newsgroup
>and NOT to directly reply to the list."
Yes. Mail replies will break threading.
The gateway is open to everyone with a valid email address, which is
something you would expect from users posting to a mailing list.
If somebody thinks that munging their address when posting to usenet
will keep it secret forever... well, they will quickly have to face
reality anyway.
The newsgroups are configured as moderated because this makes gating
easier and more robust, but posts are not manually moderated and are
either posted to the list and newsgroup after a few minutes or rejected
for technical reasons.

>"Fortunatly, linux.* *IS* a bidirectional gateway, unless your news
>server is misconfigured.".
>
>I'm confused. Is the gateway bidirectional and is almost everyone's news 
>server misconfigured? Is everyone doing something wrong? Or is it just me?
The number of users succesfully using with success the linux.* gateway
suggests that if there is a problem it exists only on a small number of
servers. (Actually I monitor my news server for unapproved articles, and
they are *very* uncommon nowadays.)

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Re: No flames please.

2004-09-01 Thread Paul E Condon

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 02:23:34PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 03:57:58 -0400
> spencer ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I recently change to debian and notice that
> > the default desktop mgr. is KDE. I've been
> > lurking on UserLinux  and the group had
> > a debate as to which desktop they would
> > put in thier distrobution. They decided to
> > use GNOME because of the licencing of
> > Qt. I thought that Troll Co. removed the
> > restriction they had on Qt. So, the question
> > is are there any restriction on the use of Qt?
> 
> That discussion is (or at least should be) long over. The free
> Linux/Unix/MacOSX Qt is licensed under the GPL.
> 
> http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/freelicense.html
> 

The last time I looked tasksel installed *both* when desktop is
selected. To get just one, you had to select individually. Both are
selectable by hand in apt-get. I don't see a bias. Personnally, I use
the KDE desktop with Gnome Terminal. Gnome Terminal user settings
don't seem to be restored under Gnome desktop. OTOH, sessions don't
seem to be saveable by hand under KDE, only whatever is last running
when you logout. For me, neither deserves to be the "one and only".

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Re: Testing mailing list....


On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Will Ness wrote:

> This is a test only, please ignore and do not reply. (Newbie at work).

your first task for "work"  is to figure ut where to send test emails :-)

c ya
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how to change owner of named ??

2004-09-01 Thread Onur

HiI'm using debian 3 stable. I have installed bind9 on the machine
by # apt-get install bind9. Currently named process is running as root as
seen below :root   268  0.0 
0.4 10196 2336 ?   
S    18:05   0:00
/usr/sbin/namedroot   270 
0.0  0.4 10196 2336 ?   
S    18:05   0:00
/usr/sbin/namedroot   271 
0.0  0.4 10196 2336 ?   
S    18:05   0:00
/usr/sbin/namedroot   272 
0.0  0.4 10196 2336 ?   
S    18:05   0:00
/usr/sbin/namedroot   273 
0.0  0.4 10196 2336 ?   
S    18:05   0:00 /usr/sbin/namedI want to
change the owner of the process from root to a restricted user because of
the security reasons stated at many sites on the internet. When
I do the following, I'm getting the following error message :#
chown named.named /usr/sbin/named# chown -R named.named
/etc/bind/*# chmod 640 /etc/bind/*# /etc/init.d/bind9
restart ; tail -f /var/log/syslogSep  1 17:57:51 ns
named[258]: starting BIND 9.2.1Sep  1 17:57:51 ns named[258]: using
1 CPUSep  1 17:57:51 ns named[261]: loading configuration from
'/etc/bind/named.conf'Sep  1 17:57:51 ns named[261]: none:0: open:
/etc/bind/named.conf: permission deniedSep  1 17:57:51 ns
named[261]: loading configuration: permission deniedSep  1 17:57:51
ns named[261]: exiting (due to fatal error)It's clear that i'm
taking a false step on changing the owner but i couldn't diagnose the
problem ... I'll appreciate any suggestion about properly changing the
owner of the named process ...


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Dual-Nic Setup

2004-09-01 Thread cds01a

We are attempting to set up a Debian system
with two ethernet cards. Trying to run apt-get
sometimes works, but sometimes fails. We
usually have to take down one of the cards
using ifdown ethX to get it to work and then
bring it back up once we are done. Does anyone
have any experience with this problem?

Christopher Fangio


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Re: keyboard not working after upgrade

2004-09-01 Thread Kent West

Nicolas de Sereville wrote:
OK, I shut down kdm as you suggested after ssh'ing. Unfortunately I 
cannot check if the keyboard work since I am at work and my box is at 
home. I will let you know tonight when I go home. By disabling kdm 
temporarily, do you mean that after reboot X is not started? If so, 
how can I achieve it?

I usually add the single line "exit 0" as the first non-comment line in 
"/etc/init.d/kdm", but there are several ways of doing it (such as 
renaming the file, renaming the rc script, etc). When you want to 
re-enable KDM, just remove or comment out that line and restart KDM with 
"/etc/init.d/kdm start".

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Re: how to change owner of named ??

2004-09-01 Thread Mitar

Hi!

Original message from: Onur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I want to change the owner of the process from root to a restricted user because of 
> the 
> security reasons stated at many sites on the internet. When I do the following, I'm 
> getting 
> the following error message :

You have to change user for the process and not just files.

Try setting it with something like this in /etc/default/bind9:

OPTIONS="-u named"

This will tell named that it should change process user to named.


Mitar


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Re: Tux logo, Nvidia drivers, and framebuffer

2004-09-01 Thread Anders Karlsson

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Brian Pack wrote:
| Are you certain about that? The nvidia logo pops up when x starts, so
| I'm pretty sure I've got the drivers running properly at that point.
VESA FB != Nvidia FB != X Driver
VESA frame buffer code relies on gfx cards having implemented an old
'common' standard. If there was an Nvidia fb driver, you could probably
get various extra features switched on for your fb console. Not sure
there is an Nvidia framebuffer driver even.
The X driver for your Nvidia card is a completely different kettle of
fish. Besides, you can disable that Nvidia logo when X starts up. Have a
gander at the README that comes with the Nvidia drivers.
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Re: Testing mailing list....

2004-09-01 Thread Paul E Condon

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:11:19AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Will Ness wrote:
> 
> > This is a test only, please ignore and do not reply. (Newbie at work).
> 
> your first task for "work"  is to figure ut where to send test emails :-)
> 
> c ya
> alvin
> 
Since people who do send these messages probably want to see their message
appear on the list, and the rest of us don't. We should suggest that they
have the word "unsubscribe" somewhere in the subject line. They will see
the message because they haven't yet learned how to send such to /dev/null
and the rest of us won't. 

Only those saintly souls who monitor list for unsubscribe and help sender
offline will have to deal with tests, but they can modify their filters
to accept email where the subject line includes both test and unsubscribe.

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which gcc do I have?

2004-09-01 Thread Paul Akkermans




Hi everyone,
 
I have installed Debian(from a distribution 
cd) on my Pentium 2 and I am wondering how I can see which version of gcc I 
have installed on my system. Can anybody tell me how I can see this and how to 
upgrade this (if this is possible). 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Paul Akkermans

Re: need help with Debian

2004-09-01 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:51:27 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello, I'm writting from El Salvador and I would like to receive some help with the 
> installation of your operative system DEBIAN (debian-30r2-hppa-binary-1.iso)
> on a HP Visualize Workstation.
> 
> I have problems in the phase of starting the installation, cause the PC unpluggs the 
> USB ports (that is the port of the keyboard). So I can't continue the installation 
> cause I can't type any key.
Hmmm... if you can't install using the default way (using the 'normal
way' of inserting a cd, with a keyboard and monitor nearby) - have you
tried installing via a serial console? The installation guidelines do
have instructions for different types of install possible on PA-RISC.

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Re: Dual-Nic Setup

2004-09-01 Thread Luke Kearney


On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:20:49 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:

> We are attempting to set up a Debian system
> with two ethernet cards. Trying to run apt-get
> sometimes works, but sometimes fails. We
> usually have to take down one of the cards
> using ifdown ethX to get it to work and then
> bring it back up once we are done. Does anyone
> have any experience with this problem?
> 
> Christopher Fangio
> 

Don't you have a default route for the internet ? If not you might get
benefit from altering the routing table to give one route a higher
preference over another. 

HTH

LukeK

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Re: which gcc do I have?

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:31:25PM +0200, Paul Akkermans wrote:
> I have installed Debian(from a distribution cd) on my Pentium 2 and I am wondering 
> how I can see which version of gcc I have installed on my system. Can anybody tell 
> me how I can see this and how to upgrade this (if this is possible). 

gcc --version

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Re: which gcc do I have?

2004-09-01 Thread Lukas Ruf

> Paul Akkermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-09-01 17:35]:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have installed Debian(from a distribution cd) on my Pentium 2 and
> I am wondering how I can see which version of gcc I have installed

gcc --version

man 'something' is always a good source of information.

wbr,
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Once a month I get this gibberish.

2004-09-01 Thread Hendrik Boom

Once a month, the cron daemon sends me all this gibberish.
Is there some point to it?
Should I be watchin gout for it?
What is it, anyway?

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 06:52:55AM -0400, Cron Daemon wrote:
> /etc/cron.monthly/scrollkeeper:
> scrollkeeper-update: /usr/local/share/omf: No such file or directory
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-no.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gpl-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/lgpl-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/panel-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/panel-de.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/panel-es.omf

and many many more similar lines.

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aptitude refuses to install gcc and a few other things

2004-09-01 Thread Hendrik Boom

I'm running denian-sarge.
When I try to install gcc using aptitude, I get the following lament:

ftp://mirror.direct.ca testing/main gcc-3.31:3.3.4 [ERROR]
 Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/linux/debian/pool/main//g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.

I get similar messages for several other files, such as cpp-3.3 gcc-3.3 libgcj-common, 
mpeglib (I asked for a few other packages, too).

Is there a problem with gcc and friends?
Or with the mirror?
Or (most likely) have I done something wrong?

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Re: Testing mailing list....

2004-09-01 Thread Richard Lyons

On Wednesday 01 September 2004 16:31, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:11:19AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Will Ness wrote:
> > 
> > > This is a test only, please ignore and do not reply. (Newbie at 
work).
> > 
> > your first task for "work"  is to figure ut where to send test emails :-)
> > 
> > c ya
> > alvin
> > 
> Since people who do send these messages probably want to see their message
> appear on the list, and the rest of us don't. 
> [...] 
Or they could wait until they have something to say...

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Re: which gcc do I have?

2004-09-01 Thread Stefaan

Hello Paul,
Just open a terminal (shell, command prompt, whatever you call it),
and type:
gcc --version
And you will be told :)
If you get an error message you probably haven't installed a compiler 
yet. In that case

apt-get install gcc
will perform a miracle ;)
Paul Akkermans wrote:
Hi everyone,
 
I have installed Debian(from a distribution cd) on my Pentium 2 and I am 
wondering how I can see which version of gcc I have installed on my 
system. Can anybody tell me how I can see this and how to upgrade this 
(if this is possible).
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Paul Akkermans

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freeswan installation errors

2004-09-01 Thread Kevin Murphy

On Sarge, I just used 'apt-get install freeswan' (shortly after upgrading all 
existing packages), and the apt-get is hanging at this step: "Unpacking 
freeswan (from .../freeswan_2.04-11_i386.deb) ..."
(has been doing nothing for about 30 minutes).  

Here is the apt-get output.  Note the errors in /usr/share/perl5/Debconf 
modules.

Get:1 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libopenct0 0.5.0-9 [61.1kB]
Get:2 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libpcsclite1 1.2.9-beta6-1 
[51.5kB]
Get:3 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libopensc0 0.8.1-7 [218kB]
Get:4 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main openssl 0.9.7d-4 [903kB]
Get:5 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main gawk 1:3.1.4-1 [993kB]
Get:6 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libatm1 2.4.1-16 [69.0kB]
Get:7 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main iproute 20010824-13.1 
[523kB]
Get:8 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main freeswan 2.04-11 [1736kB]
Fetched 4555kB in 30s (150kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
Use of uninitialized value in join or string 
at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 83.
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) 
at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 72.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string 
at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 73.
Selecting previously deselected package libopenct0.
(Reading database ... 161718 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libopenct0 (from .../libopenct0_0.5.0-9_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libpcsclite1.
Unpacking libpcsclite1 (from .../libpcsclite1_1.2.9-beta6-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libopensc0.
Unpacking libopensc0 (from .../libopensc0_0.8.1-7_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package openssl.
Unpacking openssl (from .../openssl_0.9.7d-4_i386.deb) ...
Creating directory /etc/ssl
Selecting previously deselected package gawk.
Unpacking gawk (from .../gawk_1%3a3.1.4-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libatm1.
Unpacking libatm1 (from .../libatm1_2.4.1-16_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package iproute.
Unpacking iproute (from .../iproute_20010824-13.1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package freeswan.
Unpacking freeswan (from .../freeswan_2.04-11_i386.deb) ...

Does this seem like a reportable problem, and ... remind me the easiest way to 
do that.

Thanks,
Kevin Murphy


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Re: Howto Observe My DSL Router Traffice Load...?

2004-09-01 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer

Documentation on munin is pretty sparse.  Can you give a basic
example of what to put in munin.conf to create some basic load graphs
from the localhost?

Lance

 


> You could use mrtg or munin for this (both have debian packages).
> Munin is much easier to set up and more flexible.
>

Re: Once a month I get this gibberish.

2004-09-01 Thread CW Harris

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 12:13:54PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Once a month, the cron daemon sends me all this gibberish.
> Is there some point to it?
> Should I be watchin gout for it?
> What is it, anyway?
> 
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 06:52:55AM -0400, Cron Daemon wrote:
> > /etc/cron.monthly/scrollkeeper:
> > scrollkeeper-update: /usr/local/share/omf: No such file or directory
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-C.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-no.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gpl-C.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/lgpl-C.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/panel-C.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/panel-de.omf
> > Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/panel-es.omf
> 
> and many many more similar lines.
> 
> -- hendrik

In /etc/cron.monthly/scrollkeeper you can change
scrollkeeper-rebuilddb
to
scrollkeeper-rebuilddb -q

The "-q" option will suppress all but the serious errors.
(man scrollkeeper-rebuilddb)

Note that this option is default on newer scrollkeeper installs.

HTH

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Language problem with knoppix

2004-09-01 Thread belahcene abdelkader

Hi every body

I installed the knoppix ( with lang= fr)

now when I want to complete with apt-get , for any
package it gives the error message On Language   Like:


Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled
 'Debian GNU/Linux testing _Sarge_ - Official Snapshot
i386 Binary-4 (20040806)'
in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
124495 files and directories currently installed.)
(Reading database ... 
Unpacking apt-show-source (from
.../apt-show-source_0.10_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package
autoinstall-i386.
Unpacking autoinstall-i386 (from
.../autoinstall-i386_1.13_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package autoinstall.
Unpacking autoinstall (from
.../autoinstall_1.21_all.deb) ...
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = "fr",
LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale
("C").
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = "fr",
LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale
("C").
Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled




thanks
bela


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phpinfo.php won't load via apache

2004-09-01 Thread Wayne Topa

  I have been fighting this problem for quite awhile now and was
following the thread on similar problem.  This one is driving me
nuts!

  I have in /var/www a file named phpinfo.php.  If run from a console
a console it executes correctly and produces the usual output.  
  
If run from within a index.html file
ie:
 Check Server Status.
it executes as it should, and did, prior to upgrading to php4.

  When run as File > Run FIle, from any browser, it hangs or brings up
a new window that is blank and flashes (as in reloading) every few
seconds, depending on the browser.  That goes on until the browser has
to be killed.  All control within the browser is gone.

  I am running testing with apache 1.3.31-4 and libapache-mod-php4
version 4.3.8-9.  I have checked the BTS and do not see any problems,
like this, there.

The following are all the revelant php entries in the apache dir.

/etc/apache/httpd.conf:DirectoryIndex index.html index.php index.htm index.shtml 
index.cgi
/etc/apache/httpd.conf:AddType application/x-httpd-php .php 
/etc/apache/mime.types:application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php
/etc/apache/mime.types:application/x-httpd-php-source phps
/etc/apache/mime.types:application/x-httpd-php3 php3
/etc/apache/mime.types:application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed php3
/etc/apache/mime.types:application/x-httpd-php4 php4
/etc/apache/modules.conf:LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so

 The really confusing thing is the phpmyadmin runs out of the box so I
am at a loss as to why apache or firefox etc, can't run the
phpinfo.php file directly.

  Any pointers appreciated


TIA,  Wayne


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freeswan installation errors

2004-09-01 Thread Kevin Murphy

On Sarge, I just used 'apt-get install freeswan' (shortly after upgrading all 
existing packages), and the apt-get is hanging at this step: "Unpacking 
freeswan (from .../freeswan_2.04-11_i386.deb) ..."
(has been doing nothing for about 30 minutes).  

Here is the apt-get output.  Note the errors in /usr/share/perl5/Debconf 
modules.

Get:1 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libopenct0 0.5.0-9 [61.1kB]
Get:2 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libpcsclite1 1.2.9-beta6-1 
[51.5kB]
Get:3 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libopensc0 0.8.1-7 [218kB]
Get:4 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main openssl 0.9.7d-4 [903kB]
Get:5 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main gawk 1:3.1.4-1 [993kB]
Get:6 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main libatm1 2.4.1-16 [69.0kB]
Get:7 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main iproute 20010824-13.1 
[523kB]
Get:8 http://debian.mirror.cygnal.ca testing/main freeswan 2.04-11 [1736kB]
Fetched 4555kB in 30s (150kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
Use of uninitialized value in join or string 
at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 83.
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) 
at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 72.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string 
at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 73.
Selecting previously deselected package libopenct0.
(Reading database ... 161718 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libopenct0 (from .../libopenct0_0.5.0-9_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libpcsclite1.
Unpacking libpcsclite1 (from .../libpcsclite1_1.2.9-beta6-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libopensc0.
Unpacking libopensc0 (from .../libopensc0_0.8.1-7_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package openssl.
Unpacking openssl (from .../openssl_0.9.7d-4_i386.deb) ...
Creating directory /etc/ssl
Selecting previously deselected package gawk.
Unpacking gawk (from .../gawk_1%3a3.1.4-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libatm1.
Unpacking libatm1 (from .../libatm1_2.4.1-16_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package iproute.
Unpacking iproute (from .../iproute_20010824-13.1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package freeswan.
Unpacking freeswan (from .../freeswan_2.04-11_i386.deb) ...

Does this seem like a reportable problem, and ... remind me the easiest way to 
do that.

Thanks,
Kevin Murphy

hwo to find the cd Number for a given package

2004-09-01 Thread belahcene abdelkader

Hi every body



I want to know what is the number of a Sarge Cd for a
given package ?
Sure that apt-get knows it, because when I want to
install a package it asks for a CD.
I looked   in the Debian Site to find the content of
CD, I did't find, is there only the iso images ? 
Yes, with the search procedure you can find the
package , but not the number of the Cd which contains
it.

as an example: the lyx word processor is in the sarge
package, But not in 10 (ten) first that I downloaded.

If I knew the Cd, I'd download only that CD.

The problem of downloading directly the package can
give a dependance problem it s better to use apt-get,
instead of dpkg


help is welcome
best regards   

thanks
bela


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Re: hwo to find the cd Number for a given package

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 09:18:34AM -0700, belahcene abdelkader wrote:

> The problem of downloading directly the package can
> give a dependance problem it s better to use apt-get,
> instead of dpkg

It's been a while since I used CDs for a distro, but does the command:

apt-cache madison 

tell you the relevant information?

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Re: Recompiling from 2.2.x to 2.6 OK?

Hello

Eric Dickner (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Or should I recompile first to 2.4 and then to 2.6?

You can switch directly from 2.2 to 2.6, if you have the matching
userspace utilities. Keep in mind that some packages in Woody are too
old. See /path/to/source/Documentation/Changes for details. You should
also not try to use your old config file with make oldconfig - better
configure kernel 2.6 from scratch.

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Re: aptitude refuses to install gcc and a few other things

2004-09-01 Thread Didde Brockman

Try running "apt-get update" to make sure your sources for apt are up 
to date, then retry your install. That usually solves the problems I 
get which look similar to yours  :)

//didde.
On Sep 01, 2004, at 18:22, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm running denian-sarge.
When I try to install gcc using aptitude, I get the following lament:
ftp://mirror.direct.ca testing/main gcc-3.31:3.3.4 [ERROR]
 Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/pub/linux/debian/pool/main//g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.

I get similar messages for several other files, such as cpp-3.3 
gcc-3.3 libgcj-common, mpeglib (I asked for a few other packages, 
too).

Is there a problem with gcc and friends?
Or with the mirror?
Or (most likely) have I done something wrong?
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Re: how to change owner of named ??

2004-09-01 Thread Alexander Schmehl

* Mitar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040901 17:29]:
> > I want to change the owner of the process from root to a restricted user because 
> > of the 
> > security reasons stated at many sites on the internet. When I do the following, 
> > I'm getting 
> > the following error message :
> You have to change user for the process and not just files.
> 
> Try setting it with something like this in /etc/default/bind9:
> OPTIONS="-u named"
> This will tell named that it should change process user to named.

Edit /etc/init.d/bind9 and change the line starting OPTS.
I'm not sure, if Debian creates a user "named" when installing bind.

That should be documented in the security howto at
.


Yours sincerely,
  Alexander


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solved with minor glitch: Re: aptitude refuses to install gcc and a few other things

2004-09-01 Thread Hendrik Boom

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 06:31:35PM +0200, Didde Brockman wrote:
> Try running "apt-get update" to make sure your sources for apt are up 
> to date, then retry your install. That usually solves the problems I 
> get which look similar to yours  :)
> 
> //didde.
> 
> On Sep 01, 2004, at 18:22, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> >I'm running denian-sarge.
> >When I try to install gcc using aptitude, I get the following lament:
> >
> >ftp://mirror.direct.ca testing/main gcc-3.31:3.3.4 [ERROR]
> > Unable to fetch file, server said 
> >'/pub/linux/debian/pool/main//g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.
> >
> >I get similar messages for several other files, such as cpp-3.3 
> >gcc-3.3 libgcj-common, mpeglib (I asked for a few other packages, 
> >too).
> >
> >Is there a problem with gcc and friends?
> >Or with the mirror?
> >Or (most likely) have I done something wrong?
> >
> >-- hendrik

Well, that worked!  I did it with the 'u - update' command in aptitude.


What was the problem -- that the package list or some such had not
been updated?

The only trouble it gave me was an attempt to uninstall lots and lots
of KDE-related packages because they were no longer needed.
Could it be that the kde metapackage disappeared?

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Re: aptitude refuses to install gcc and a few other things

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 06:31:35PM +0200, Didde Brockman wrote:
> Try running "apt-get update" to make sure your sources for apt are up 
> to date, then retry your install. That usually solves the problems I 
> get which look similar to yours  :)

It's worth mentioning that if you're going to install 'gcc', you're better of
installing:

build-essential

instead.

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Re: No flames please.

Hello

Nicos Gollan (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 03:57:58 -0400
> spencer ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I recently change to debian and notice that
>> the default desktop mgr. is KDE. I've been
>> lurking on UserLinux  and the group had
>> a debate as to which desktop they would
>> put in thier distrobution. They decided to
>> use GNOME because of the licencing of
>> Qt. I thought that Troll Co. removed the
>> restriction they had on Qt. So, the question
>> is are there any restriction on the use of Qt?
> 
> That discussion is (or at least should be) long over. The free
> Linux/Unix/MacOSX Qt is licensed under the GPL.

...and Gnome uses GTK, which is licensed under the LGPL. From
:

,---
|GUI desktop: GNOME. The fact that it comes with a license to develop
|and distribute proprietary applications is the sole reason for this
|decision. A long discussion on the mailing list has made it clear that
|GNOME and KDE are similar in technical merit and commercial acceptance
|at this time, leaving only the licensing issue as a basis for this
|decision. 
`---

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raid 1 setup.

2004-09-01 Thread Roger

I'm trying to get raid 1 going on my Sarge unstable box.
When I installed raidltools2 and mdadm doing a /proc/mdstat gave the 
following

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/network# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
read_ahead 1024 sectors
md2 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part3[1]
 3148672 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md1 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part2[1]
 7269312 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md0 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1[1]
 25728000 blocks [2/1] [_U]
The thing is I have yet to create any md devices and my
/etc/raidtab   <-which raidtools doesn't use - but I checked anyway
/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
files are empty..
How do I get rid of these bogus md devices?  I'm at a loss as to where 
the are configured, and that mdadm doesn't seem to have a erase or 
delete function to it

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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Martin Dickopp

Rthoreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just wanted to warn people about forged headers, The E-mail had an 
> vbs attachment with it, which is even more funny.  Anyway be aware of 
> forged headers, this is the first I have seen,

If it was really your first such mail, you can count yourself lucky. :)
I receive dozens of spam and virus mails with forged, but existing
sender addresses daily.

Martin

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Re: newbie Xlib install/configure question

Hello

Mark D. Hansen (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I've been running a debian server for a while with no X11.  I access
> it from SSH on a MS Windows machine.  Now, I want to be able to use
> X11.  So, I installed xlibs (apt-get install xlibs).  It installed OK,
> but I can't run "startx".  I get the following:
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such
> file or directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: exec:
> /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No such file or directory giving up.
> xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X
> server
> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  unexpected signal 2.

You tried to run an complete X session. For this you need the X server
to be installed. I don't even know if it works like this over SSH at
all.

> What have I done wrong?  Can I run X11 over an SSH connection from a
> MS Windows machine?

Maybe if you install Cygwin and XFree under Windows:
http://x.cygwin.com/

Perhaps you could use VNC instead.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Language problem with knoppix

Hello

belahcene abdelkader (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I installed the knoppix ( with lang= fr)

Although Knoppix is based on Debian, it is not a real version of Debian.
There are better places to find support for Knoppix, for example here:

> now when I want to complete with apt-get , for any
> package it gives the error message On Language   Like:
> 
> [...]
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = "fr",
> LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> are supported and installed on your system.

Run

apt-get install locales

and select [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever it is called. If the locales packages
is already installed, run dpkg-reconfigure locales. You probably need
to log out and in again to apply the changes.

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Re: solved with minor glitch: Re: aptitude refuses to install gcc and a few other things

2004-09-01 Thread Didde Brockman

Well, I'm no expert, but I guess sometimes the mirrors moves stuff around or they just "die off", and hence /etc/apt/sources.list gets outdated. It usually happens on some of our older systems which have not been "apt-get update"-ed in quite a while.

Someone else can probably give you a more accurate answer though :)

//didde.

On Sep 01, 2004, at 19:18, Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 06:31:35PM +0200, Didde Brockman wrote:
Try running "apt-get update" to make sure your sources for apt are up
to date, then retry your install. That usually solves the problems I
get which look similar to yours :)

//didde.

On Sep 01, 2004, at 18:22, Hendrik Boom wrote:

I'm running denian-sarge.
When I try to install gcc using aptitude, I get the following lament:

ftp://mirror.direct.ca testing/main gcc-3.31:3.3.4 [ERROR]
Unable to fetch file, server said
'/pub/linux/debian/pool/main//g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.

I get similar messages for several other files, such as cpp-3.3
gcc-3.3 libgcj-common, mpeglib (I asked for a few other packages,
too).

Is there a problem with gcc and friends?
Or with the mirror?
Or (most likely) have I done something wrong?

-- hendrik

Well, that worked! I did it with the 'u - update' command in aptitude.

What was the problem -- that the package list or some such had not
been updated?

The only trouble it gave me was an attempt to uninstall lots and lots
of KDE-related packages because they were no longer needed.
Could it be that the kde metapackage disappeared?

-- hendrik

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Re: raid 1 setup.


On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Roger wrote:

> I'm trying to get raid 1 going on my Sarge unstable box.
> 
> When I installed raidltools2 and mdadm doing a /proc/mdstat gave the 
> following
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/network# cat /proc/mdstat
> Personalities : [raid1]
...
>   25728000 blocks [2/1] [_U]

whacky :-) but than again .. guess that's okay for an empty /etc/raidtab

> The thing is I have yet to create any md devices and my
> 
> /etc/raidtab   <-which raidtools doesn't use - but I checked anyway
> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf 
> files are empty..

put real data into /etc/raidtab

- move /etc/raidtab aside to /etc/raid.tab.temp  to tell the box
  don't try raid on bootup

- other places that try to do raid during bootup ...( all over the place )
grep raid /etc/*

- remove raidtools and mdadm if you dont want to bother configuring sw
  raid

c ya
alvin


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Re: No flames please.

2004-09-01 Thread Nicos Gollan

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:40:09 +0200
Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ...and Gnome uses GTK, which is licensed under the LGPL. From
> :

Also, the GTK licensing model was not the topic.

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Re: raid 1 setup.

2004-09-01 Thread Roger

Alvin Oga wrote:
whacky :-) but than again .. guess that's okay for an empty /etc/raidtab
 

I'd disagree.  With an empty raidtab nothing should be configured.  I'd 
like to know where this config came from... :|

The thing is I have yet to create any md devices and my
/etc/raidtab   <-which raidtools doesn't use - but I checked anyway
/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf 
files are empty..
   

put real data into /etc/raidtab
- move /etc/raidtab aside to /etc/raid.tab.temp  to tell the box
 don't try raid on bootup
 

I'd like to start w/ a clean slate, ie no md devices and then go from 
their..  Haven't been able to do that.

- other places that try to do raid during bootup ...( all over the place )
	grep raid /etc/*
 

/etc/default/raid2 is one place - but that just offers false/true values
- remove raidtools and mdadm if you dont want to bother configuring sw
 raid
 

Let me specify by saying I have mdadm and raidtools2 package.
Does anyone have any idea how to erase/remove these md devices?  I'd 
look in /etc/raidtab or mdadm.conf - but those are both empty..

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Real Debian LiveCD?

2004-09-01 Thread Preston Boyington

I am involved with a project that is (currently) using Knoppix as a base for a LiveCD. 
 The end result of the project is having a "trial" cdrom that can then be installed as 
a real Debian system.

I know that there are projects like Morphix (which is what the Debian Non-Profit is 
based on) and that there are several tutorials on converting Knoppix/Morphix into a 
Debian system, but is there a better "variant" out there?

Thanks,
Preston

Xfree86

2004-09-01 Thread Paul Akkermans




Hi everyone,
 
I have found a new Xfree86 version 4.4.0 for my gui on debian linux. 
But on the site www.Xfree86.org they 
underline to check if your version supports this new version. Can somebody tell 
me if my debian version supports this Xfree86?
 
With kind regards,
 
Paul Akkermans
 
Ps: my version of debian linux is: Linux debian 
2.2.20-idepci #1 Sat Apr 20 12:45:19 EST 2002 i686 
unknown

Re: Howto Observe My DSL Router Traffice Load...?

2004-09-01 Thread Tim Kelley

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:04:46AM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Documentation on munin is pretty sparse.  Can you give a basic
> example of what to put in munin.conf to create some basic load graphs
> from the localhost?

[localhost]
  address 127.0.0.1
  use_node_name = yes

This will cause the collector/grapher to contact the munin node
running on localhost.

Of course munin-node must also be running on localhost.

To configure munin-node you just install it and make symlinks from
/usr/share/munin/plugins to /etc/munin/plugins for the things you want
to graph.

(these are the locations from the debian packages)

Note that the plugins can be almost anything, most are sh or perl.

It can graph any script that can spit out numbers.  For a router you
would use a script that used snmpget to grab the various objectID's from the
router you wanted to track.

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make-kpkg problems

2004-09-01 Thread Joshua Y. Stabiner

Anytime I do a make-kpkg with modules as the target
(modules_image, modules, modules_config, modules_clean ete.)
I get the following output (and no .deb file):

for module in  ; do   \
  if test -d  $module; then
   \
(cd $module;  \
  if ./debian/rules KVERS="2.6.8"
KSRC="/usr/src/linux" \
 KMAINT="Unknown Kernel Package
Maintainer"
KEMAIL="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  \

KPKG_DEST_DIR="/usr/src/linux/.."   \
 KPKG_MAINTAINER="Unknown Kernel
Package Maintainer"\
 ARCH=i386\
 KPKG_EXTRAV_ARG=""\
 KDREV="10.00.Custom" kdist;
then  \
  echo "Module $module processed fine";
   \
  else 
\
   echo "Module $module failed.";  
   \
   if [ "X" != "X" ]; then  \
  echo "Perhaps $module does not
understand --rootcmd?";  \
  echo "If you see messages that
indicate that it is not"; \
  echo "in fact being built as root,
please file a bug ";  \
  echo "against $module."; 
   \
   fi; 
\
   echo "Hit return to Continue?"; 
\
 read ans;\
  fi;  
\
 );\
  fi;  \
done

Not sure what to do... any help is appreciated.  
Thanks!
-Josh


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Re: Language problem with knoppix

2004-09-01 Thread Nori Heikkinen

on Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:09:30AM -0700, belahcene abdelkader insinuated:
> Hi every body
> 
> I installed the knoppix ( with lang= fr)
> 
> now when I want to complete with apt-get , for any
> package it gives the error message On Language   Like:
> 
> 
> Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled
>  'Debian GNU/Linux testing _Sarge_ - Official Snapshot
> i386 Binary-4 (20040806)'
> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[...]
> Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled

this [isn't what you were asking about, but it] suggests that you have
a local disk in your /etc/apt/sources.list.  if you don't want these
messages to show up when you don't have that cd in your drive, comment
the relevant lines out of /etc/apt/sources.list.



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keeping old libc

2004-09-01 Thread Attila Csosz

Hi,
I'd like to update my stable system to testing but I want to keep the 
old libc libs and headers. I dont know if it is possible. The reason: 
kylix 3 works only with libc libs while linking an application.
Acceptable to copy "/lib" to "/lib2" or somewhat but I dont know what to 
do.

Thanks
Attila
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Re: No flames please.

Hello

Nicos Gollan (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:40:09 +0200
> Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> ...and Gnome uses GTK, which is licensed under the LGPL. From
>> :
> 
> Also, the GTK licensing model was not the topic.

Yes, the discussion was about Gnome, although as I understand KDE could
not use the LGPL, like Gnome (or parts of it) do, as long as QT uses
the GPL.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: keeping old libc

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:20:17PM +0200, Attila Csosz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to update my stable system to testing but I want to keep the 
> old libc libs and headers. I dont know if it is possible. The reason: 
> kylix 3 works only with libc libs while linking an application.
> Acceptable to copy "/lib" to "/lib2" or somewhat but I dont know what to 
> do.

You could do that and export LD_LIBRARY_PATH as needed, but I wouldn't
recommend it. It's not a very stable solution.

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Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian

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"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Incoming from Paul Johnson:
>> 
>> But now that your address is out in the open, there's no real point in
>> munging it anyway, so what's the problem?
>
> It was out in the open when he tried to post to linux.debian.user;
> Swen is still out there, still scraping mail addresses.

So that alone is reason enough not to go through all that pointless
munging:  Your fellow Windows users are undermining it for you.
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Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian

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Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>"If one reads a debian mailing list in a linux.debian.* group and
>>wants to reply to the list he is supposed to followup to the newsgroup
>>and NOT to directly reply to the list."
> Yes. Mail replies will break threading.

Mail replies will break threading, unless you're using an MUA that is
also NNTP-aware or vice-versa.  Gnus is an example of a user agent
that doesn't choke on protocol change.

> The gateway is open to everyone with a valid email address, which is
> something you would expect from users posting to a mailing list.  If
> somebody thinks that munging their address when posting to usenet
> will keep it secret forever... well, they will quickly have to face
> reality anyway.

For unusually small values of forever.
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Re: Usb mouse frozen randomly

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Hasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can any one any suggest ? I'm doing
>  rmmod hid
> insmod hid
>
> and its ok , but its not usefull . I'm really tired from that.

Just unplugging and replugging the mouse would be easier and wouldn't
require root for the same effect.

BTW, please learn to quote.  http://learn.to/quote/
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