Re: open firmware and my etch boot

[eric]

*yaboot.conf**
boot=/dev/sda3
device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot

image=/boot/vmlinux
   label=Linux
   read-only
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   initrd-size=8192
*

ofpath /dev/sda4
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:4


I was in partition 4 getting all the above information.

xavier grave wrote:

Hi Eric,

I just remembered something about the device field in yaboot.conf file.
Can you send the result of your last yabootconfig please ?
Before a yabootconfig can you do some tests : what is the result of the
ofpath command ?

xavier

Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 12:42 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
Hi xavier, I think I want to check if my open firmware is correct 
first.  I was able to run yabootconfig following your directions.  I 
guess I just need to know whether or not I can rule out that it is a mis 
configuration of open firmware or yaboot, before I start messing around, 
can you help? Thanks.



xavier grave wrote:


Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
  
I have a Apple G4 server model M5183.  I've install Etch without a 
problem, however when I get to second stage boot... it freezes or hangs 
then the monitor turns black.


my boot-device for open firmware(3)is:
boot-device
/pci/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@0:11,\\:tbxi 
hd:,\\:tbxi


I believe 11 is the partition linux / is on.

help would be fantastic! ...and thank you.




Hi,

First you should reboot with your install CD.
As soon as possible : execute a shell
in in mount your / partition on /target for example.
Then :
# chroot /target
# mount /proc
# mount -a
# yabootconfig
# umount -a
# umout /proc
# exit
# umount /target
This procedure should able you to play with yaboot in order to find
where the problem can be...

Hope it will help.

xavier
  
  




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Re: open firmware and my etch boot

[eric]

in yaboot.conf or open firmware?

xavier grave wrote:

May be you should replace the device line by :
device=hd:

xavier

Le vendredi 15 juin 2007 à 07:50 -0400, eric a écrit :
  

*yaboot.conf**
boot=/dev/sda3
device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot

image=/boot/vmlinux
label=Linux
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
initrd-size=8192
*

ofpath /dev/sda4
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:4


I was in partition 4 getting all the above information.

xavier grave wrote:


Hi Eric,

I just remembered something about the device field in yaboot.conf file.
Can you send the result of your last yabootconfig please ?
Before a yabootconfig can you do some tests : what is the result of the
ofpath command ?

xavier

Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 12:42 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
  
Hi xavier, I think I want to check if my open firmware is correct 
first.  I was able to run yabootconfig following your directions.  I 
guess I just need to know whether or not I can rule out that it is a mis 
configuration of open firmware or yaboot, before I start messing around, 
can you help? Thanks.



xavier grave wrote:



Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
  
  
I have a Apple G4 server model M5183.  I've install Etch without a 
problem, however when I get to second stage boot... it freezes or hangs 
then the monitor turns black.


my boot-device for open firmware(3)is:
boot-device
/pci/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@0:11,\\:tbxi 
hd:,\\:tbxi


I believe 11 is the partition linux / is on.

help would be fantastic! ...and thank you.





Hi,

First you should reboot with your install CD.
As soon as possible : execute a shell
in in mount your / partition on /target for example.
Then :
# chroot /target
# mount /proc
# mount -a
# yabootconfig
# umount -a
# umout /proc
# exit
# umount /target
This procedure should able you to play with yaboot in order to find
where the problem can be...

Hope it will help.

xavier
  
  
  






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Re: open firmware and my etch boot

[eric]

Ok, I edited yaboot.conf.

could you help me with open firmware?  At one point open firmware was 
going to a linux 1st stage, but now I just get the mac question mark.


my boot-device and boot-command are:

boot-device  /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:3,\\:tbxi
boot-commandmac-boot


boot-file
boot-screen
boot-args

are all blank

xavier grave wrote:

sorry : in the yaboot.conf file
boot=/dev/sda3
device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
...
becomes :

boot=/dev/sda3
device=hd:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
...

I had to do this on my old dual G5...


Le vendredi 15 juin 2007 à 09:50 -0400, eric a écrit :
  

in yaboot.conf or open firmware?

xavier grave wrote:


May be you should replace the device line by :
device=hd:

xavier

Le vendredi 15 juin 2007 à 07:50 -0400, eric a écrit :
  
  

*yaboot.conf**
boot=/dev/sda3
device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot

image=/boot/vmlinux
label=Linux
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
initrd-size=8192
*

ofpath /dev/sda4
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:4


I was in partition 4 getting all the above information.

xavier grave wrote:



Hi Eric,

I just remembered something about the device field in yaboot.conf file.
Can you send the result of your last yabootconfig please ?
Before a yabootconfig can you do some tests : what is the result of the
ofpath command ?

xavier

Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 12:42 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
  
  
Hi xavier, I think I want to check if my open firmware is correct 
first.  I was able to run yabootconfig following your directions.  I 
guess I just need to know whether or not I can rule out that it is a mis 
configuration of open firmware or yaboot, before I start messing around, 
can you help? Thanks.



xavier grave wrote:




Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
  
  
  
I have a Apple G4 server model M5183.  I've install Etch without a 
problem, however when I get to second stage boot... it freezes or hangs 
then the monitor turns black.


my boot-device for open firmware(3)is:
boot-device
/pci/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@0:11,\\:tbxi 
hd:,\\:tbxi


I believe 11 is the partition linux / is on.

help would be fantastic! ...and thank you.






Hi,

First you should reboot with your install CD.
As soon as possible : execute a shell
in in mount your / partition on /target for example.
Then :
# chroot /target
# mount /proc
# mount -a
# yabootconfig
# umount -a
# umout /proc
# exit
# umount /target
This procedure should able you to play with yaboot in order to find
where the problem can be...

Hope it will help.

xavier
  
  
  
  









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Re: open firmware and my etch boot

[eric]

reguarding these directions:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch07s01.html.en
for NewWorld Macs, which is my case

Should I have partitioned my SCSI drive first with OS X to get an 
apple_bootstrap partition?
And then do an installation, or use my Etch cd install to create the 
apple_bootstrap?


eric wrote:

Ok, I edited yaboot.conf.

could you help me with open firmware?  At one point open firmware was 
going to a linux 1st stage, but now I just get the mac question mark.


my boot-device and boot-command are:

boot-device  
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:3,\\:tbxi

boot-commandmac-boot


boot-file
boot-screen
boot-args

are all blank

xavier grave wrote:

sorry : in the yaboot.conf file
boot=/dev/sda3
device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
...
becomes :

boot=/dev/sda3
device=hd:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
...

I had to do this on my old dual G5...


Le vendredi 15 juin 2007 à 09:50 -0400, eric a écrit :
 

in yaboot.conf or open firmware?

xavier grave wrote:
   

May be you should replace the device line by :
device=hd:

xavier

Le vendredi 15 juin 2007 à 07:50 -0400, eric a écrit :
   

*yaboot.conf**
boot=/dev/sda3
device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:
partition=4
root=/dev/sda4
timeout=30
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot

image=/boot/vmlinux
label=Linux
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
initrd-size=8192
*

ofpath /dev/sda4
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/@0:4


I was in partition 4 getting all the above information.

xavier grave wrote:
   

Hi Eric,

I just remembered something about the device field in yaboot.conf 
file.

Can you send the result of your last yabootconfig please ?
Before a yabootconfig can you do some tests : what is the result 
of the

ofpath command ?

xavier

Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 12:42 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
 
Hi xavier, I think I want to check if my open firmware is 
correct first.  I was able to run yabootconfig following your 
directions.  I guess I just need to know whether or not I can 
rule out that it is a mis configuration of open firmware or 
yaboot, before I start messing around, can you help? Thanks.



xavier grave wrote:
   

Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
   
I have a Apple G4 server model M5183.  I've install Etch 
without a problem, however when I get to second stage boot... 
it freezes or hangs then the monitor turns black.


my boot-device for open firmware(3)is:
boot-device
/pci/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@0:11,\\:tbxi 
hd:,\\:tbxi


I believe 11 is the partition linux / is on.

help would be fantastic! ...and thank you.



Hi,

First you should reboot with your install CD.
As soon as possible : execute a shell
in in mount your / partition on /target for example.
Then :
# chroot /target
# mount /proc
# mount -a
# yabootconfig
# umount -a
# umout /proc
# exit
# umount /target
This procedure should able you to play with yaboot in order to 
find

where the problem can be...

Hope it will help.

xavier










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Re: XFree86 config for tibook 667

[eric]

I rebuilt my kernel and now i'm at a mon> prompt

On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 08:21 AM, christophe barbe wrote:



If I understand correctly we own the same laptop.
My linux experience is here:
   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/







I rebuilt my kernel and now i'm booting to a mon> prompt before it gets 
to a login prompt, and after i do an x from there i hit a kernel panic. 
 unfortunatly i didn't specify my orig kernel in my yaboot.conf file. 
so does anyone have the default path to a bootable kernel. I think I 
had 2.4.18 from the upgrade to testing.  If I can't find another 
bootable kernel i'm gonna have to start over..


eric

Re: MountX?

[eric]

On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 07:00 PM, Alexander Stagun wrote:


Hi,

I hope I am not too off topic here, but I am looking for a tool to
mount ext2 partitions under OSX (at least read-only). Searching on
google, all I found were two tools: LinuxDisks (deprecated?) and
MountX (written by benh). Unfortunately, I could not find any
information or downloads for MountX. Is MountX also deprecated? Are
there any alternatives?




I could REALLY use a utility that did this myself. All i need to be 
able to do is mount (read only) my debian parttition under OS X. I 
figured mount would be able to do this in OS X's cli but havn't figured 
it out yet.


i just can't remember the exact name of my other kernel.. and am not 
looking forward to starting all over over again.


eric

Re: mice and x

[eric]

Chris Tillman wrote:

You're out of my league now; but there are 2 ways to start X, startx and gdm. 
With gdm, you have a choice of what kind of session you want, I think. When 
installed as part of the tasksel desktop package, I think most of this stuff 
is taken care of for you; at least gnome starts for me automatically when 
I start X.
 


well, as you can tell from my earlier post, I've gotten it to work. I 
still have to work out things like my DEL and BACKSPACE keys, figure out 
how to get 3 button mouse emulation, and I'm set. I'm writing this from 
mozilla (I haven't been concentrating on getting a real (IMO) emailer to 
work... yah, GNOME gets started from within X, duh me. gnome desktop and 
so forth. Thanx for the help :-).


eric

Re: Kernel help for newbie

[eric]

On 1 April, 2002 20:45, Chris Tillman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:50:32PM -0600, Derek Hall wrote:
> > I am rather new to *nix so maybe I am overlooking something obvious
> >
> > I have a PM 7600 running Debian (kernel 2.2.15) on which I am attempting
> > to update the kernel.  I have tried both rsyncing benh's latest source
> > (for 2.4.19 I think) and downloading his pre-complied 2.4 oldworld
> > Powermac kernel.  The problem is that even after replacing vmlinux and
> > System.map in /boot (and installing the modules) upon reboot it still
> > tells me I am running 2.2.15. I have tried replacing the actual files as
> > well as just making symlinks in /boot to the new kernel and System.map.
> >
> > Compiling the source gave no errors but installing that resulting vmlinux
> > and System.map seemingly had no effect either (did a uname -a and it
> > still said 2.2.15 pre 19 (or something like that))
> >
> > I am booting the machine via floppy using miBoot.  Do I have to replace
> > the zImage file on the miBoot floppy? If so how do I make a new zImage
> > from my new kernel? I had this idea as you do need to point BootX to the
> > correct kernel after an update, for example.
>
> Yes, that's your problem. It's using the kernel on the floppy.
>
> I'm pretty sure the zImage for a 2.4 kernel won't fit on a floppy. We had
> to increase the size of our floppy image for the new-powermac flavor to
> 2.88M, and I don't think there's any real floppy drives for the Mac that
> size.
>
> You would either need to use BootX, or set up quik on this machine. Setting
> up quik may be a bit tricky, because probably your OpenFirmware I/O goes
> to the modem port rather than keyboard and screen.

i had the hardest time trying to figure this one out too and figured it out 
with some friendly advice from #debianppc. 

i was using bootx to boot into linux, and i would get 2.2.19 as a kernel 
version even though i had deleted the system.map, the kernel image, *and* the 
config file in /boot for that 2.2.19 kernel. i had to nvsetenv to boot off my 
(old) kernel (in this case a 2.4.18 kernel i compiled myself; this one is one 
i got from the debian archives). for reference, this is a 7500 now happily 
(re)booting from quik and not mac os/bootx.

for my setup, i used:

1) nvsetenv boot-device "$(ofpath /dev/sdb)0"
2) nvsetenv boot-command "begin boot catch 100 ms cr again"
3) nvsetenv output-device /chaos/control
4) nvsetenv input-device kbd
5) quik -f

YMMV. 

eric 


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Re: Recommended kernel? (current one crashes)

[eric]

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On 8 April, 2002 19:24, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 17:24:05 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > You could try kernel-image-2.4.18-powerpc.
>
> What's the difference between kernel-image-2.4.18-newpmac and
> kernel-image-2.4.18-powerpc? Which one should I take preferably?
> (I have a PowerBook G4.)

the newpmac iirc is for the newer pmacs, like the tibook, the G4 desktops, 
the newer G3s, etc. pesonally with ur box i'd go for the newpmac, but that's 
me.

eric
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Re: Disabling mouse buttons emulation

[eric]

On 10 April, 2002 21:09, Chris Tillman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:43:02PM +0200, Riccardo Gusso wrote:
> > In fact now I can see that the parameter has been read:
> >
> > babele:~# more /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation
> > 0
> > babele:~#
> >
> > But I still have F11 and F12 emulating middle and right mouse button.
> > So I am forced again to ask suggestions.
> > Bye.
> >   Rick
>
> xmodmap? - but I'm not familiar with it.

yes xmodmap is related to the keyboard, but no, it doesn't take care of mouse 
button emulation. there is no setting for the emulation to be set on or off, 
AFAIK.

check if you have mouse button keycodes assigned. it's counter-intuitive i 
know, but there may be a config set for the keycodes, and the kernel is 
reading it as turning on emulation. also, i suggest checking your quik.conf, 
yaboot.conf, or whatever you're using as a bootloader config file. check your 
mac_hid directory (unless you already did, then just ignore this last).

eric


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Re: XF86Config for old-world Mac

[eric]

On 13 April, 2002 00:58, Steven Tomcavage wrote:
> I've installed woody on my PowerPC 6360 and I'm having
> trouble setting up my XF86Config-4 file. When I start X, I
> get the initial "grey" screen with the X-cursor in the
> middle, then X shuts down. Any ideas? I get a "Caught
> Signal 11. Server aborting" right after (or in the middle
> of?) loading the mouse. Could it be the ADB mouse? Here's
> my XF86Config-4 file and the output when I start X:
>

> Section "Device"
>   Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
>   Driver  "fbdev"
>   Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
>   HorizSync   30-57
>   VertRefresh 43-72
>   Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
um, u can use xvidtune, it'll scan the frequencies. i tried it on mine, and 
gave me almost exactly the same settings i'm using now for vertrefresh and 
horizsync. i'm running a 640x480 monitor on the onboard video of a 7500, and 
my settings for horizsync and vertrefresh are:
34.880 and 66.437, and xvidtune reported 34.88 and 66.43. YMMV

> When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please
> send
> the full server output, not just the last messages.
> This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
> Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax
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> (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
> (**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured
> Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
>
> Fatal server error:
> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
>
>
if you have a 2 button mouse, use the emulate 3 buttons, otherwise, take it 
out. if u use the adb mouse, take it out, and a 3 button, you don't need it.

eric


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Re: capslock fix for powerbooks

[eric]

On 12 April, 2002 21:24, Jason E. Stewart wrote:
>
>
> I *do* use ADB keycodes (too lazy to read how to figure out how to
> switch).

http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes for the info. i suggest that u 
print out or copy out by hand the table of keys, Just In Case. it's 1 1/2 
pages long :).

eric
>
> jas.


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older powermacs was: Re: Multiple Swap Partitions? Re: Sudden loss ...

[eric]

On 16 April, 2002 05:58, Anthony Lau wrote:
>
> If the BugTraq info is correct, this may only affect 2.4.X kernels.
>
> It's always refreshing to see old Macs still up and running, even
> without their "native" OS.
>
in fact, this old powermac runs *better* (better as in faster, more stable, 
apps are *much* less crash-prone, and overall stability) than it ever did 
with the native OS on it. i even completely wiped my macOS 9 drive of all 
traces of macOS, and stuck my stuff on it with the new XFS filesystem format, 
and even the hard drive is quicker (a (GB seagate, 7200 rpm). the only times 
that i've had to reboot were when i was changing the kernel and moving all 
the files to the new drive.

eric

> Anthony


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Re: Why is quik statically linked?

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On 16 April, 2002 14:17, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
>
> Doesn't the actual quik binary just process quik.conf and set up the
> boot blocks?  Like Jens, I don't see why this needs to be statically
> linked.
>
yup, it sets up first.b and second.b, and the names are indicative of which 
one loads first, after the OF gets init'ed. the second.b loads the kernel, 
and other stuff.

> The boot blocks themselves are of course "statically linked", but that's
> another matter.
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Re: booting powebook g3 wallstreet with quik (help!)

[eric]

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:56:40 +0200, Adrian Cotfas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have installed debian potato on a powerbook g3 (wallstreet) but i cant 
> figure out how to make the system boot from the hard drive! This is my first 
> experience with powerpc platform so I really dont have a clue how to do this. 
> I read documentation for quik but when trying to install i get
> the error message
> Fatal error: Couldnt locate partition 2 on /dev/hda
> 
> I have the following setup (booting from cdrom for now)
> /dev/hda1 30MB boot partition ext2fs (not used, empty)
> /dev/hda2 2GB root partition ext2fs marked bootable
> 
> partitions created with cfdisk and mke2fs used on them
> 
> my quik.conf:
> root=/dev/hda2
> timeout=20
> image=/boot/vmlinux
> label=Linux
> read-only
> 

i've done this (and still do) enough times so here goes:

ok, first, these set variables in your NVRAM, and they are kept there until you 
boot into macOS. macOS will reset these values that you set, for various 
reasons (that i won't get into here). BTW, do this from console, it's very 
different in OF, and easier to do it in console.

first, to tell your NVRAM (quik reads from this) which drive to read from. 

nvsetenv boot-device "$(ofpath /dev/hda)0"

if you do echo $(ofpath /dev/hda)0 , it should point to your hard drive in the 
/proc dir.  for example, in my system, it would point to /bandit/gc/mesh/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:0 . 

nvsetenv boot-command foo (usually boot)

ok, this depends very much on your model, so i won't put anything there. 
usually it's boot, and that works fine, but i suggest that you go see 
http://netbsd.org/Ports/macppc and look around (on the links too) for your 
model of computer.
also, you can go see http://penguinppc.org/projects/quik for more info too.


nvsetenv output-device bar 

same as above, depends on your computer. on mine it would be /chaos/control. 
this is the video display

nvsetenv input-device kbd

i'm not sure if this is appropriate for a laptop, but i assume it is. (i don't 
mind if you go check, hint hint :-)

and then, you have to tell your bootloader - quik - to re-read your configs and 
the nvram. 

quik -f

forces quik to re-read your new config - including /etc/quik.conf. make sure 
when you set all this up, that you hav nvramrc read set to true. get this by 
typing nvsetenv and it will give you a list of things. it's near the top, and 
should say something like:

use-nvramrc? true

if it doesn't (it should) do:

nvsetenv "use-nvramrc?" true

> 
> I read something about setting OF variables, but dont know if and how to do 
> so!
> Anyone willing to give a short step by step explanation of how to set things 
> up?
> 

all of these (except for quik -f , can be set from OF, but instead of nvsetenv, 
it's setenv, and you have to type out the whole string for your hard drive 
(/foo/bar/this/way/to/the/IDE/drive/OF ). 

> Thanks in advance!
> 


no problem,
eric

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Re: which is the latest kernel-image for powerpc's

[eric]

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> This is a good trick but does not always work.  It's a good argument for
> having full mirrors.  I realize we can't impose too heavy requirements,
> but it would be very useful to be able to identify sites which are
> incomplete and sites which carry the full mirror of that particular
> release.
>
i totally agree on that, it doesn't always work. yes it would be useful, and 
would save people some aggravation :).

eric

> -Lars
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > a little trick that i do when i'm the web site downloading and searching
> > for stuff. copy the URL and substitute powerpc for the x86 or i86 or
> > whatever it is for the debs. quite often you'll get a working URL.
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Booting the netinst CD image on a Mac mini

[Eric]

Hi,

I need some help to install Debian.

I bought a Mac Mini and I want to install Debian above in dual boot with
MacOS X. I have partitioning the disk, and reinstall MacOS, the issue is
with the installation of Debian. I can't run the Debian installer.

When I press on the key 'c' at startup, the mac don't boot on the Debian
cd but start MacOs.
I haven't a apple keyboard, I use my pc keyboard a logitech. 

Any suggestions to install Debian are much appreciated!!!

Thanks.
Eric

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Re: Booting the netinst CD image on a Mac mini

[Eric]

Thanks for the answers.

I resolved the problem, it came of the keyboard. I changed the
keyboard with a other, and now I can boot on the Debian cd by pressing
the key 'c'.

the noncompatible keyboard is 
Logitech: cordless Desktop pro

Now I have Debian on my Mac Mini, just the configuration to finish :-))

Eric


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[keybord] [X] space key problem....

[Eric Deveaud]

Hi,

here is a description of the problem

kernel 2.2.18 home made to use the new-input-layer (see the .config with
the relevant parts)
french extended USB keyboard

keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes set to 1

using the keymaps for the french keyboards here
http://www.linux-france.org/article/materiel/mac/clavier_rpm3.html>
alienated to tgz, extracted and installed by hand.


whille loading the keymap everything is OK under console.


under X using Xpmac
that display the following message at startup

Xpmac / X Window System (X11R6.3)
Release Date: April 10, 2000

Running in mode=14, depth=32; req mode=0 depth=0
Using VT number 7
Mapped frame buffer (physaddr 0x8180 size 0x300010) at
0x30027000.
Mach64 detected. Mapping regsiter...
Mapped physaddr 0x817ffc00 size 0x1000 at 0x30015c00.
Mach64 successfully mapped. Starting acceleration...
PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M
mach64CreateGC: unsupported depth: 8. Using cfbCreateGC instead.
mach64CreateGC: unsupported depth: 15. Using cfbCreateGC
instead.
Using XFree86/Linux keycode handling.

(yes I need to use Xpmac instead of Xfree4.*, for the momment)

Xpmac is launched by xdm with the following options
zazie:~ > more /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
[SNIP]
:0 local /usr/bin/X11/Xpmac -mode 17 -depth 24 -kbdtype fr_new vt7

OKAY I got a french keyboard quite useable
except
1) arrows are unusable
leftproduce 4 + beep
up  8 + beep
down2 + beep
rigth   6 + beep

2) pressing space once, gives me a repetition of spaces until I press an
other key, like if space is sticky

3) ctrl-command-fn did'nt allow me to switch back to the console


oops. there's something wrong
did I do something wrong ??

thank's for any advice.

Eric

ps and oh an other thing, while working under the console
   both caps-lock and num-lock sends hid.c: ctrl urb status -32 received


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new package to enable mouse button emulation

[Eric Dorland]

Hmm, the subject kinda of says it all. I wrote a init script and 
debconf scripts to enable 3 mouse button emulation for the newer kernels
with input layer support. It took me a while to figure out how to do
this when i install debian on my G3, and this package would save people
the trouble i went through.

It still needs a little cleaning up, and i need someone to sponsor it,
since I'm still waiting for DAM approval. Also, its currently called
powerpc-mouse, which i think is a pretty bad name. Maybe apple-mice?
What does everyone think?

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Re: new package to enable mouse button emulation

[Eric Dorland]

* Vinod Kurup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 07:39:43PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > Hmm, the subject kinda of says it all. I wrote a init script and 
> > debconf scripts to enable 3 mouse button emulation for the newer kernels
> > with input layer support. It took me a while to figure out how to do
> > this when i install debian on my G3, and this package would save people
> > the trouble i went through.
> > 
> > It still needs a little cleaning up, and i need someone to sponsor it,
> > since I'm still waiting for DAM approval. Also, its currently called
> > powerpc-mouse, which i think is a pretty bad name. Maybe apple-mice?
> > What does everyone think?
> > 
> 
> Well, I just edited /etc/sysctl.conf
> 
> #
> # /etc/sysctl.conf - Configuration file for setting system variables
> # See sysctl.conf (5) for information.
> #
> #kernel.domainname = example.com
> #net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts=1
> dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode = 87
> dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode = 88
> dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1
> 
> I agree though that it took me a while to figure out what numbers to put in
> there. 
> 

Yes, but that is pretty hard for the newbie to figure out. Should be
easier for them :)

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Re: new package to enable mouse button emulation

[Eric Dorland]

Hmmm, yes this is probably the way to go. I guess you could argue that
not everyone wants the emulation, but since its just an extra shell
script its hardly that much bloat. I'll intergrate it into powerpc-utils
and send a patch later this week.

* Daniel Jacobowitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 07:39:43PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > Hmm, the subject kinda of says it all. I wrote a init script and 
> > debconf scripts to enable 3 mouse button emulation for the newer kernels
> > with input layer support. It took me a while to figure out how to do
> > this when i install debian on my G3, and this package would save people
> > the trouble i went through.
> > 
> > It still needs a little cleaning up, and i need someone to sponsor it,
> > since I'm still waiting for DAM approval. Also, its currently called
> > powerpc-mouse, which i think is a pretty bad name. Maybe apple-mice?
> > What does everyone think?
> 
> I'd suggest adding this to powerpc-utils (which should really be called
> powermac-utils...).  File a wishlist bug with a patch if you want, and
> I'll see about doing it.  I'd really rather not have a proliferation of
> packages with just init and debconf scripts!
> 
> 
> Dan
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Re: new package to enable mouse button emulation

[Eric Dorland]

Yes this is exactly what it does. And it always asks before blowing
stuff away :)

* Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:12:35PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > Hmmm, yes this is probably the way to go. I guess you could argue that
> > not everyone wants the emulation, but since its just an extra shell
> > script its hardly that much bloat. I'll intergrate it into powerpc-utils
> > and send a patch later this week.
> 
> just make sure its configurable in some way i'd imagine
> /etc/default/mouse-buttons or some such thing.  i have a multibutton
> mouse like many others so don't need this.  asking how to configure
> this via debconf sounds the way to do it IMO.  just make sure you
> don't blow away admin altered changes in the config file, whereever
> that may be. ;-)  
> 
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Re: new package to enable mouse button emulation

[Eric Dorland]

Ok, i've filled the wishlist bug, thanks a lot :)

* Daniel Jacobowitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 07:39:43PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > Hmm, the subject kinda of says it all. I wrote a init script and 
> > debconf scripts to enable 3 mouse button emulation for the newer kernels
> > with input layer support. It took me a while to figure out how to do
> > this when i install debian on my G3, and this package would save people
> > the trouble i went through.
> > 
> > It still needs a little cleaning up, and i need someone to sponsor it,
> > since I'm still waiting for DAM approval. Also, its currently called
> > powerpc-mouse, which i think is a pretty bad name. Maybe apple-mice?
> > What does everyone think?
> 
> I'd suggest adding this to powerpc-utils (which should really be called
> powermac-utils...).  File a wishlist bug with a patch if you want, and
> I'll see about doing it.  I'd really rather not have a proliferation of
> packages with just init and debconf scripts!
> 
> 
> Dan
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Re: Kernel panic in Debian Install

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Ben Marsh wrote:

> I get a kernel panic when writing the partition information in the debian
> install.
>
> kernel panic: Exception in kernel pc c0205a6c signal 4

same thing occurs while installing an imac.
after reboot the partition table was OK.

> I don't know what to do next.  I really want to install debian.

just start the installation again, and this time everithing should run
fine.

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netscape ??

[Eric Deveaud]

Hello,

i'm just finishing to install the powerbook (pismo) of my boss.

she want's to be abble to use netscape.

when I apt-get install netscape (or communicator or wathever)
I get the following error
Sorry the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  netscape: Depends: communicator but it is not going to be installed or
 navigator but it is not going to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

but when loocking at the 2 mirror I use (either
ftp.fr.debian.org or ftp.pasteur.fr )

I see on the non-free/binary-powerpc/web/
the netscape 4.6 and 4.7 packages. communicator packages are also here.

how could I install netscape.

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debian2.2r2 on powerbook G4

[Eric Deveaud]

Hi,

I'm trying to install debian on a powerbook G4 (titanium).

as the cd is non bootable, I grab the linux kernel and ramdisk.image.gz
from /potato/main/disks-powerpc/2.2.19-2000-12-03/powermac/

to a mac partition of the disk, wich contains yaboot yaboot.conf (edited
and modified)

booting under OF to yaboot is OK, yaboot start to load the kernel, but
everything stops with the following message.

opening display /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATY,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATY,rageM3p12B_

somebody knows how to boot this machine.

should I compile a new kernel on my pismo, and try with this new one ??

any advice ??

Thank's

    Eric

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Re: debian2.2r2 on powerbook G4

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Alan DuBoff wrote:

> Eric Deveaud wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to install debian on a powerbook G4 (titanium).
> >
> > as the cd is non bootable, I grab the linux kernel and ramdisk.image.gz
> > from /potato/main/disks-powerpc/2.2.19-2000-12-03/powermac/
>
> No, that CD is bootable. The trick is knowing how to force the G4 titanium
> into booting from the CD.

I should have said as the cd is non bootable on this particular
machine...

sure the cd is bootable, I succesfully install a pismo, an iMac, a G3
with this CD.

it seem's that 2.4.x boots the Titanium, I'll continue this morning.

> I think you are better off getting the CD to boot and building the kernel on
> the titanium.

unfortumatly i wasn't able to boot this powerbook from the cd even while
holding the 'C' key at startup (which is the `secret key combo' to boot
from the CD since a while on PowerMacs) nor using yaboot.

I've compiled the 2.4.2 on an iMac, and I'll grab it to the Titanium
into a few minutes

> I don't like the concept of building a kernel on another
> machine, since the hardware could be and probably is different

sure the hardware is different, the most inportant is to use the good
options for .config

> It might even
> be me if I get a titanium...(looking over shoulder to see if wife is watching
> me type;-).

 ;-))


Eric

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Re: debian-powerpc: Apple Titanium notebooks ?

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Brendan J Simon wrote:

>
> Does anyone know if Debian Linux will run on the new Apple Titanium
> notebooks.  I assume it's just a new kernel I need with the appropriate
> drivers.  Has anyone got a new Ti machine running Debian Linux ?

yep.

unfortunatly the offical 2.2r2 cd is non bootable on the TiG4.
use a 2.2.18 kernel to boot the TiG4 and perform installation as usual.

minor problems.
ethernet card is a giga one, I can't get it to work at full speed.
pump dosen't allow me to get a dhcp adress (I've got the same problem
last week with a pismo500)

but it's fast.

Eric

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Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

[Eric Richardson]

Mike Fedyk wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am not on the debian-user list, so please cc me as well as the list...
> 
> I have been using netscape mail for several years on winblows, and have over 
> 50
> folders and even more filters.  I have been getting about 10,000 messages a
> month, and now that I'm a LKML reader, it's gone even higher.  So, threading
> support is very important to me.  So is mail filtering, weather it's with a
> separate package or not doesn't matter.
> 
I converted from Mac to Linux on with Netscape Comm 4.7x and had no big
problems. Once Netscape was on linux I put the Mac files in that matched
the linux files. Backup of the orignals would be a good idea. It was
pretty manual but it worked okay. Netscape does crash occasionally on
Linux and Mac just so you know.

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)

Re: rsync-ing ftp directories ? [Resend]

[Eric Deveaud]

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrei Verovski wrote:

Hi,
>
> Anyone can suggest how I can make scheduled sync ftp directories with
> rsync and cron? Everytime I am trying to do it i've got stupid message
> "module name must be defined".

with rsync I duno

why don't you use fmirror ??

Eric

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Xserver boot problem: Mouse won't load

[Eric Youngson]

I have a G4 400MHZ, AGP 2x with an ATI Rage 128 Pro.  I recently
installed Debian 2.2 Potato.  My default Xserver is FBDev.  When I
originally entered the command: startx, I got an error about the xserver not
being able to load the mouse.  I edited the file:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.
Under pointer device I specified: "USB" for protocol and "usbmouse" for the
device.  I checked /dev and found "usbmouse", so I know it exists.  The
problem is that now I get this message:

Config Error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config:217
protocol "USB"
Mouse type not supported by this OS

I don't believe this message, because of course the keyboard is USB and it
works fine.  I even got this configuration to boot the xserver with another
protocol specified, but the mouse doesn't respond and I have to force it to
quit.  If anyone has any suggestions at all, I would greatly appreciate
them.  Thanks in advance
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Yaboot 0.6

[Eric Youngson]

I have the xserver up and running now!  I hate to bother you again, but
I also am having a problem making the system dual boot properly.  I am
currently booting from a small Mac - HFS standard partiton containing yaboot
0.6 by first booting open-firmware and specifying the boot partition (10).
I have read the install manual for PPC and it says to set the firmware using
this command:

mkofboot --boot /dev/hda10 -m /usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot --root /dev/hda12
--partition 12

The console comes back with a message about how it can't find
"/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot.  I intialized and mounted the boot partition during
installation, it even recognized it as a boot partition and prompted me as
such, but is there some other step that I missed?  Thanks.
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Gnome: Where's my panel?

[Eric Youngson]

I have recently gotten my xserver up and installed gnome.  The only
problem is that my panel (you know the thing with the main menu) is MIA!  I
can start it from the xterm, but it's seems kind of funky.  Also, the xterm
goes on about how it can't find /dev/dsp.  Is there a config file or
something to specify this stuff? Thanks.
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report install debian on powerbook G4

[Eric Deveaud]

Hello,

as promise just a few words explainig how I install debian 2.2r2 on a
powerbook G4

this is a short resume on how to install Debian and MacOs on a
Titanium powerbook G4

first note that the kernel 2.2.18pre21 on the debian install CD, dosn't
allow to boot the Ti

1) boot on the MacOS CD, use the Apple Hard disk tools to
create the partition scheme you want on the drive drive
eg: X Go for linux (free-space)
X Go for the MacOS system (HFS+)
X Go for the MacOS apps  (HFS+)
X Go for the docs (HFS+)
X Mo/Go for a sharing MacOS <-> Linux partition (HFS)

2) install MacOS

3) grab a linux kernel 2.2.18, ramdisk, yaboot, yaboot.conf on the
   shared partition


4) get the SystemDisk tool from apple
   ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/macosxserver/utilities/>
   with this one note the number of the partition or the shared
   partition eg: XX

5) edit the yaboot.conf
eg:
init-message = "\nDebian PPC\nhit  for boot options\n\n"
timeout = 50
default = install

image=hd:XX,vmlinux-2.2.18
label=install
initrd=hd:XX,ramdisk.image.gz
initrd-size=8192
append="video=ofonly"

6) reboot the Mac under OF (command-option-o-f)
   at boot-prompt type
boot hd:XX,yaboot

7) the debian installer is launched
   install debian as usual on the free-space partition previously
   created
   DON'T forget to create a Apple_Bootstrap partition of small size, in
   first place see http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/> mac-fdisk
   section
   note the /dev/hdaNN number of the Apple_Bootstrap partition
   note the /dev/hdaYY number of your / partition
   eg if you do the way described here, it should be /dev/hda11
   (/dev/hda1 to 9 are Mac drivers and /dev/hda10 your bootstrap
   partition)
   initialise swap
   format the linux partitions
   mount a previously initialized partition, the shared one.
   install base
   configure drivers
   configure base
   DON'T do "disk bootable" instead go to the console, copy the
   linux-kernel-2.2.18 to your /boot partition, name it vmlinux-2.2.18

8) reboot the computer under MacOS
   depending on the number of linux partition you've created, the
   previous XX  number of the shared partition has changed, use
   SystemDisk again to get the new one, eg now it's ZZ

9) edit once again the yaboot.conf: modify the old XX to ZZ
   and insert a linux boot section as following
init-message = "\nDebian PPC\nhit  for boot options\n\n"
timeout = 50
default = debian

image=hd:ZZ,vmlinux-2.2.18
label=install
initrd=hd:ZZ,ramdisk.image.gz
initrd-size=8192
append="video=ofonly"

image=hd:YY,/boot/vmlinux-2.2.18
label=debian
root=/dev/hdaYY
append="video=ofonly"

10) reboot under OF once again, at boot prompt
boot hd:ZZ, yaboot

11) this time the installed linux boot up
- answer the question
- set up /etc/apt/sources.list
- install what you want, I strongly suggest man first ;-))
- set up the /etc/yaboot.conf
  eg:
# bootstrap partition
boot=/dev/hdaNN
device=hd:
delay=20
timeout=20

# the OF menu to use
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
# the booter to use
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot

# enable boot form cdrom
enablecdboot

# default OS, linux of course
defaultos=linux

# linux boot options.
default=debian

image=hd:YY,/boot/vmlinux-2.2.18
label=debian
root=/dev/hdaYY
append="video=ofonly"

12) run mkofboot on /dev/hdaNN --filesystem hfs
that's all folks, dual boot Linux/MacOS is set
you just have to install what you want: X, compile a fitted kernel
for this machine, and so on ;-))

just a note, as I've read on list, eth drivers for the eth card of the
TiG4 are not so good.


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Re: report install debian on powerbook G4

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 06:53:35PM +0100, Eric Deveaud wrote:
>
> > 4) get the SystemDisk tool from apple
> >ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/macosxserver/utilities/>
> >with this one note the number of the partition or the shared
> >partition eg: XX
>
> i don't understand why you need this utility?

cause it's the easiest way to find the partition number, to use in OF,
for a newbie like me ;-))

>
> >DON'T do "disk bootable" instead go to the console, copy the
> >linux-kernel-2.2.18 to your /boot partition, name it vmlinux-2.2.18
>
> there is another step, relink /target/vmlinux to boot/vmlinux-2.2.18,
> then run:
>
> mkofboot -b /dev/hdaNN -m /usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot --root /dev/hdaYY
>
> where /dev/hdaNN is your Apple_Bootstrap partition, and /dev/hdaYY is
> your root partition.  this will install a working bootstrap on your
> bootstrap partition making the disk immediatly bootable.   after you
> boot into debian you still need to write your own /etc/yaboot.conf and
> rerun ybin.

instead of that I boot again under OF, and at boot prompt I use
hd:YY,/boot/vmlinux-2.2.18 root=/dev/hdaYY
setup apt, perform the minimal installation, setup yaboot.conf
and run mkofbot at this momment


> instead use:
>
>   image=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.18 # or better point to a symlink
>   partition=YY
>   the rest as you have it.

hum... it seem that I haven't read enough man yaboot.conf
OK I will correct this,

> also if you kept macos, add a:
>
> macos=/dev/hdaCC which is your macos partition.

right I forgive to notice that.

thanks for the precision, corection  you've pointed

Eric

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Gnome trouble: No panel

[Eric Youngson]

Ok, now everything boots up fine and Gnome starts automatically, but...
When Gnome starts up, I find myself in a strange desktop with no panel.  All
of the documentation that I have indicates that the panel should start with
the Gnome environment.  I have managed to get the panel to startup from the
console with the command: Panel &.  But there are errors on the console and
when I close the console, the panel disappears.  Well, any info would be
helpful, thanks.
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Re: french keyboard missing | and \

[Eric Deveaud]

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Bruno Waes wrote:

> euhm, any solution for the french (belgian) keyboard that doesnt have a | or
> \ character on the keyboard ?
> or would i have to look out for a new keyb

see

http://www.linux-france.org/article/materiel/mac/#clavier>

Eric


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Re: potato r3 is out, includes working boot floppies (was: Re: new potato boot-floppies)

[Eric Valette]

Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:53:47AM -0700, Tovar wrote:
> > For people who care about powerpc stuff
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > http://www.netfall.com/powerpc
> >
> > Download the file boot-floppy-oldworld.img
> >
> 
> just to let people know, potato r3 has been released yesterday, and
> with it comes fixed boot floppies that work on OldWorld again.
> 
> you do not need the above unofficial image any longer, instead use the
> 2.2.23 boot floppies in potato r3.

I tried the new installation floppy on a G3 powermac with ADB keyboard.
The good point is that, it does allow you to issue the enter command and
install the root floppy image. The bad point is that network install
(nfs/network) is broken. Worse, I when I insert  the floppy for taken
form powermac directory driver-1.img, it request me a different
floppy...

Any idea?

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Re: USB Mouse Problem

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Matt Barnett wrote:

> This is a pretty stupid question, given all the discussion of the new input
> layer in the list, but I still don't know the answer. Here goes:
>
> I've just installed debian on my rev. a beige g3. Everything works fine,
> except, of course, that X (specifically xpmac.rev10) doesn't acknowledge my
> usb mouse. The usb mouse and my usb card are properly detected by the kernel
> during boot up, so this just seems to be a case of a debian newbie being hit
> with the input layer changes.

xpmac and new inputlayer could be compatible.. as my pismo tolds me in
this momment.(I can't break it ie switch to Xfree4, for the momment. I
need it in a stable and working state)

did you have the /dev/input/mice
is your /dev/usbmouse a symlink to /dev/input/mice

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Re: I sometimes lose 'q' key in profit of 'a' using mac-fr3 keymap... (fwd)

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 2 May 2001, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:


> Let's try to fix this 'q' -> 'a' problem.  It was a real pain for me
> when I first installed Debian on a mac with a French keyboard: you need
> to be able to hit 'q' to get out of the fdisk program, and maybe it comes
> up in other parts of the installation too.  This hassle already came up on
> the mailing list by the way.

this is not a sokution, just a tip, just remember that you can use the
ascii code to type a letter.
for example. q = command 113. for thet you have to type the ascii value
on the numerical keyboard, while pressing the command(apple) key.

it saves me some times, while installing debian on various Mac, whith
azerty  keyboards

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Re: French Keyboard

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 28 May 2001, jean-michel jim jm daix wrote:

> Sorry , I¹m French !

ca arrive a des gens tres bien ... ;-))
>
> Well, my problem is that it seems that the map of the keyboard is wrong.
> It¹s ok, it¹s AZERTY instead of QWERTY but the french Q give me à A too.
> I¹ve got 2 [A] and no [Q], and it¹s hard to Quit !

the french keymap is a little broken.

for a `working one' see
http://www.linux-france.org/article/materiel/mac/#clavier>

for the missing q just remember that you can use the ascii key-codes
q=option-1-1-3 (the number must be typed on the numeric keypad)

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Xfree86-4.0.3 - iMac revA

[Eric Deveaud]

I've just installed woody on an old Imac (one of the first one)

just to ask about something strange

whith the following Device section in XF86Config-4
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "ati"
BusID   "PCI:0:18:0"
EndSection

X starts correctly, BUT (yes there's a but) all the text is displayed in
a `kind of mirror' mode, ie all letter are reversed.
eg: I try to represent it
   __   __
|\  | |__|   |  /| |__|
| \ | | \ -> | / |  / |
|  \| |  \   |/  | /  |


while using the following Device section everything is OK
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "fbdev"
Option  "UseFBDev"
EndSection

what I did wrong ??

Eric


NB here a some more details about the machine
running 2.4.5-pre3 Benh kernel

lpsci gives me
00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro
215GP (rev 5c)

part of dmesg
atyfb: 3D RAGE PRO (PQFP, PCI) [0x4750 rev 0x7c] 6M SGRAM, 14.31818 MHz
XTAL, 230 MHz PLL, 100 Mhz MCLK
atyfb: monitor sense=73f, mode 6
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: ATY Mach64 frame buffer device on PCI




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Re: Xfree86-4.0.3 - iMac revA

[Eric Deveaud]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> Eric Deveaud wrote:
>
> > X starts correctly, BUT (yes there's a but) all the text is displayed in
> > a `kind of mirror' mode, ie all letter are reversed.
>
>
> It's a driver bug which will be fixed in 4.1.0 and supposedly in the DRI
> packages I will make available soon.


I'll check that as soon as possible.
I'll grab the cvs tree to see how it works.

Thank's

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Re: Xfree86-4.0.3 - iMac revA

[Eric Deveaud]

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> Eric Deveaud wrote:
> > I'll grab the cvs tree to see how it works.
>
> Make sure to get xf-4_1-branch or xf-4_1_0, the trunk might be broken.

thank's for the advice.

I'll let you know it works.

Eric

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Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:

> > there should be a galeon package in non-US any time now that mozilla
> > is packaged.  having said that you don't NEED a debian package of
> > galeon, its very clean and well behaved for source installation:
> >
> > ./configure
> > make
> > su -c 'make install'
>
> And pollute my clean debian install, on way, ...

in this case why not ./configure --prefix=/what/you/want

Eric


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benh kernel 2.4.6 + gpm

[Eric Deveaud]

Hi,

I just finished to rsync and compile benh kernel for my pismo(thank's
ben for your work) and I notice a problem wille using gpm, with my usb external 
3
buttons mouse
as I spend a lot of time in console mode, I eavily use gpm.
with 2.2.19 everything is OK
with benh kernel, when I mouse select  something, all caracters turns as
strange hierogliphs.
and paste gives the same hierogliphs.

furthermore, a single left click on the screen gives me a nice caracter
representing a smilly face.

what happens, I need 2.4.6 for sleep support and airport support

here is my /etc/gpm.conf

device=/dev/input/mice
responsiveness=
repeat_type=ms3
type=ps2
append=""



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Re: benh kernel 2.4.6 + gpm

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

> >with benh kernel, when I mouse select  something, all caracters turns as
> >strange hierogliphs.
> >and paste gives the same hierogliphs.
>
> You probably have VGA console enabled. You should disable it and do a
> clan rebuild of the kernel (backup your .config, make mrproper, restore
> the .config and rebuild)
>
> This is a known bug with the console code, I beleive someone will
> finally submit the proper patch :)


OK
let's see.
yoko:~ > grep CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y

ok, I clean rebuild.

thank's

Eric

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Re: benh kernel 2.4.6 + gpm

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Eric Deveaud wrote:

> let's see.
> yoko:~ > grep CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE /usr/src/linux/.config
> CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
>
> ok, I clean rebuild.

thank's it solve the problem.

Eric



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Re: Dual booting?

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Patrick Klee wrote:

> Hi,
> I have an iMac DVSE with MacOS.  But I want MacOS to coexist with
> Debian PPC?  I there a HOWTO on acheiving this on a single12 gig hard
> drive?

first of all see http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson> the mac-fdisk
tutorial
after that check the yaboot/ybin sections.
NB man yaboot.conf is very informative.

Eric


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IBM js20 etch amdk111 ide bus

[Eric Schoeller]

I have been trying to install debian on an IBM js20 blade server.

Using the latest etch-testing debian cd from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc1/powerpc/iso-cd/

has yielded much more success then sarge alternatives, however this cd 
is lacking support for the i2c-amdk111 bus. I have tried various methods 
to rebuild a kernel with this compiled in, and re-author the debian cd 
with little success.


Does anyone have recommendations on how to get/build a debian etch cd 
with amdk111 support?


Thanks,

Eric Schoeller
Computational Science Center
University of Colorado at Boulder


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Re: Debian has failed us

[Eric Cooper]

On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:18:24PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> [...]
> False: it was not compiled into the standard Debian kernel. The installer
> does not use custom kernels. This was explained to you at the time.
> [...]
> Please check your facts before sending such mails:
> [...] 
> I'll ignore the rest of your rant as it is obviously based on false
> assumptions.
> [...]

This is an incredibly arrogant and hostile response to a long-time,
technically competent Debian user who posted a calm and informative
message.

> P.S. Some apologies would be appreciated.

On the contrary, he attacked nobody personally, and his tone was not
inflammatory. Your response made an unfortunate situation worse.  It's
you who should apologize.

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open firmware and my etch boot

[Eric Benoit]

I have a Apple G4 server model M5183.  I've install Etch without a 
problem, however when I get to second stage boot... it freezes or hangs 
then the monitor turns black.


my boot-device for open firmware(3)is:
boot-device
/pci/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@0:11,\\:tbxi 
hd:,\\:tbxi


I believe 11 is the partition linux / is on.

help would be fantastic! ...and thank you.


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Re: open firmware and my etch boot

[Eric Benoit]

Hi xavier, I think I want to check if my open firmware is correct 
first.  I was able to run yabootconfig following your directions.  I 
guess I just need to know whether or not I can rule out that it is a mis 
configuration of open firmware or yaboot, before I start messing around, 
can you help? Thanks.



xavier grave wrote:

Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Benoit a écrit :
  
I have a Apple G4 server model M5183.  I've install Etch without a 
problem, however when I get to second stage boot... it freezes or hangs 
then the monitor turns black.


my boot-device for open firmware(3)is:
boot-device
/pci/ATTO,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@0:11,\\:tbxi 
hd:,\\:tbxi


I believe 11 is the partition linux / is on.

help would be fantastic! ...and thank you.




Hi,

First you should reboot with your install CD.
As soon as possible : execute a shell
in in mount your / partition on /target for example.
Then :
# chroot /target
# mount /proc
# mount -a
# yabootconfig
# umount -a
# umout /proc
# exit
# umount /target
This procedure should able you to play with yaboot in order to find
where the problem can be...

Hope it will help.

xavier
  



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Re: GUI Text Editor for GNOME

[Eric Cooper]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 11:53:08AM -0500, Jeffrey Rolland wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a GUI text editor for GNOME that has similar 
> functionality and power to these two programs (line numbers, optional text 
> wrap, and line ending conversions are key, but other things, too)?

gedit

You can control line numbering, text wrapping, etc. in the Edit >
Preferences dialog.

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Re: USB microphone or webcam with in-built mphone on iBook 300MHz

[Eric Cooper]

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:42:32AM +0200, Ennio-Sr wrote:
> Does any of you know whether there is any usb microphone (or webcam with
> in built microphone) which can be used with linuxppc running on an old
> 300MHz iBook?

The Griffin i-Mic (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic)
lets you connect an analog microphone.

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Re: USB microphone or webcam with in-built mphone on iBook 300MHz

[Eric Cooper]

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 04:19:51PM +0200, Ennio-Sr wrote:
> >  The Griffin i-Mic (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic)
> >  lets you connect an analog microphone.

> Have you tested it with linux?

I've only used its output mode, to connect a G4 Cube running Debian to
a stereo system.

But this page says the capture function should work too:
http://seehuhn.de/pages/imic

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2 oldworld Power Macs available to a good home

[Eric Cooper]

I have a 7600/120 and 7600/132 that I was using as gateway/firewall
machines for several years, but have now retired.  They have a basic
Debian-only install, booting via quik.  If someone can use them to
continue support for Debian on PowerPC, I'm happy to give them away
(you pay shipping).

IMO these are too slow to do any native development/building; I always
cross-compiled their kernels on faster machines. But they might be OK
for doing QA on installers, bootloaders, or other PowerMac-specific
stuff.

Please contact me off-list if you need more details.

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Re: Cross-compile PPC kernel on x86

[Eric Cooper]

On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 01:50:01PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> At this point I would like to use the make-kpkg command but how do I
> specify the paths for the proper toolchain to use?
> 
> Right now I am using the command:
> 
> make-kpkg --initrd --cross-compile powerpc --revision=test.kernel_image

I've been using prebuilt kernels for a while, so this may be out of
date, but I used to use this:
make-kpkg --arch powerpc --subarch pmac --cross-compile powerpc-linux ...
It will look for cross-tools in your PATH that are named
powerpc-linux-gcc, powerpc-linux-as, etc.

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bug in rcp

[VALETTE Eric]

System info
---
Linux ppc1target 2.2.3 #61 Fri Apr 2 14:43:15 CEST 1999 ppc unknown

dpkg -s netstd
Package: netstd
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: net
Installed-Size: 925
Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 3.07-7.1
Replaces: pftp (<< 0.7.6-1), wu-ftpd, wu-ftpd-academ
Pre-Depends: netbase (>= 3.00), libc6 (>= 2.1), libncurses4 (>= 4.2-3.1), 
libreadlineg2 (>= 2.1-13.1)
Suggests: mail-transport-agent
Conffiles:
 /etc/bootptab ca74a74efcdd3cbd1e2c9fd0fff399ca
 /etc/ftpusers d141bdd8e0b1aa2e5e4023345b3fbc9a
 /etc/hosts.equiv d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
 /etc/bootparams a6bf99f5d041c60244c1e1c077fa7b80
 /etc/init.d/netstd_init e2033f1e3c2c0f64afe21cb8732ef55f
 /etc/init.d/netstd_misc fb69c9f01916b16dcb2fa38a88cbb895
Description: Networking binaries and daemons for Linux
 The netstd package provides you with the standard networking services
 (server and clients).  This includes services like ftp, bootp, tftp, finger,
 rsh, rlogin and others.


Aparently, there is a bug in rcp :  if you specify a non existing
local source file, rcp dies with "Memory fault"

rcp /tmp/nonexisting valid_machine_name:/tmp
Memory fault 

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Incorrect optimization on PowerPC due to volatile keyword (gcc-2.95.1 official)

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Environment information
---
53 powermac1:/tmp->uname -a
Linux powermac1 2.2.12 #1 Sat Sep 4 17:53:53 MDT 1999 ppc unknown
54 powermac1:/tmp->gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/2.95.1/specs
gcc version 2.95.1 19990816 (release)

Proof of uncorrect behavior
---

gcc  -o t t.c
t.c: In function `IMFS_get_token':
t.c:80: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
t.c:82: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
48 powermac1:/tmp->t
token = dev <= correct
49 powermac1:/tmp->gcc -O2 -o t t.c 
t.c: In function `IMFS_get_token':
t.c:80: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
t.c:82: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
50 powermac1:/tmp->t
token = d   <= WRONG
51 powermac1:/tmp->gcc -O4 -o t t.c 
t.c: In function `IMFS_get_token':
t.c:80: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
t.c:82: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
52 powermac1:/tmp->t
token = dev <= correct again
52 powermac1:/tmp

   ***
The problem is in the generation of the first while loop in the program below
   ***

FYI : We have experienced a lot of problem when compiling drivers using the
volatile keyword to access memory mapped PCI board registers. The problems
were not present in egcs-1.1.2.

   --- t.c program ---

#include 

#define IMFS_is_valid_name_char( _ch ) ( 1 )

#define IMFS_is_separator( _ch ) \
   rtems_filesystem_is_separator( _ch )

#define rtems_filesystem_is_separator( _ch ) \
   ( ((_ch) == '/') || ((_ch) == '\\') || ((_ch) == '\0'))

#define IMFS_NAME_MAX  32

/*
 *  Type defination for tokens returned from IMFS_get_token
 */

typedef enum {
  IMFS_NO_MORE_PATH,
  IMFS_CURRENT_DIR,
  IMFS_UP_DIR,
  IMFS_NAME,
  IMFS_INVALID_TOKEN
} IMFS_token_types;

IMFS_token_types IMFS_get_token(
  volatile const char   *path,
  volatile char *token,
  volatile int  *token_len
)
{
  int   i = 0;
  IMFS_token_types  type = IMFS_NAME;

  /* 
   *  Copy a name into token.  (Remember NULL is a token.)
   */

  while ( !IMFS_is_separator( path[i] ) && (i <= IMFS_NAME_MAX) ) {

 token[i] = path[i];

 if (i == IMFS_NAME_MAX)
   return IMFS_INVALID_TOKEN;

 if ( !IMFS_is_valid_name_char( token[i] ) )
   type = IMFS_INVALID_TOKEN;   

 i++;
  }

  /*
   *  Copy a seperator into token.
   */

  if ( i == 0 ) {
token[i] = path[i];

if ( token[i] != '\0' ) {
  i++;
  type = IMFS_CURRENT_DIR;
} else {
  type = IMFS_NO_MORE_PATH;
}
  } else if (token[ i-1 ] != '\0') {
token[i] = '\0';
  }

  /*
   *  Set token_len to the number of characters copied.
   */

  *token_len = i;

  /*
   *  If we copied something that was not a seperator see if
   *  it was a special name.
   */

  if ( type == IMFS_NAME ) {
if ( strcmp( token, "..") == 0 )
  type = IMFS_UP_DIR;
else if ( strcmp( token, "." ) == 0 )
  type = IMFS_CURRENT_DIR;
  }

  return type;
}

main()
{
  IMFS_token_types  type;
  char token[ IMFS_NAME_MAX + 1 ];
  char path [4];
  int len;
  int i = 0;
  
  strcpy(path, "dev");
  memset(token, 0, sizeof(token));
  type = IMFS_get_token( &path[i], token, &len );
  printf("token = %s\n", token);
}


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Incorrect loop generation code generated by gcc-2.95.2 configured for PPC target (powerpc-rtems) (extracted directly from cvs the 21/10/99)

[Valette Eric]

This bug is present in gcc-2.95.1 and in the gcc snapshot extracted the
21 th October from CVS with the correct gcc-2.95.2 branch tag.

Attached with this mail you will find :
1) The C code that triggers the bug (standalone so that you can
regenerate it)
2) The side by side asm code generated by egcc 1.1.2 (-mcpu=604) and
gcc-2.95.2 (-mcpu=750) (and probably gcc-2.95.1 as the bug also happens
with this gcc version) 
3) The explanation of the bug in the form of commented asm,

Basically the bug is due to the new way used to generate C "for"
instruction. Now for the PPC targets the PPC' "CTR" register is used in
cunjunction of the "bdnz". The problem is that the CTR register is
automatically decremented by the bdnz instruction but the CTR value is
not always used as the input value for the index variable of the loop.
See comments in the asm code.


NB : THIS IS A VERY SEVERE BUG. 

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Re: PowerMac kernels with GCC 2.95.1

[VALETTE Eric]

>>>>> "Shaw" == Shaw Terwilliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Shaw> I'm using GCC as part of Potato (1999/10/29) on my PowerBook (G3 Series
Shaw> Lombard).  Since about 1999/09/24 (my last working kernel) I haven't
Shaw> been able to successfully boot a new kernel.  I've been using Paul
Shaw> Mackerras's archive (rsync samba.anu.edu.au::linux-pmac-stable) the
Shaw> whole time.  My 1999/09/24 kernel (2.2.12) is the latest that won't
Shaw> boot without a machine check somewhere in modprobe/init/somerandomprogram.

Shaw> It occurred to me that perhaps the GCC package has changed since
Shaw> then to make it unable to build usuable kernels.  

Shaw> In short, is anyone using PPC Potato's GCC (2.95.1 19990816 release)
Shaw> and Paul's stable kernel (2.2.13 is latest) and getting bootable
Shaw> kernels?  Is there some other compiler I should be using (older 
Shaw> GCC)?

I would suggest to upgrade to gcc-2.95.2 as there are severe bug for PPC
with 2.95.1 (incorrect loop generation, mishandling of volatile keyword, ...).


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Re: gcc 2.95.2 vs 2.91

[VALETTE Eric]

>>>>> "Brendan" == Brendan Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brendan> "Phillip R. Jaenke" wrote:

Phillip> *sigh* this isn't just powerpc. this is x86 too. I can't get ANY 
kernels
Phillip> to compile with gcc 2.95 or 2.91. Folks, I think at this point it's
Phillip> SERIOUSLY advisable to just abandon gcc 2.9x as primary and change it 
to
Phillip> optional. There's just too much stuff that will NOT compile with it. I
Phillip> mean, hell, the damn thing is spitting out asm errors for 'mov' on x86!
Phillip> I've had NO problems with 2.7.2.3 or 2.8.x to date.

Brendan> The real question as far as I can see is whether it is a gcc bug or is 
it gcc
Brendan> just being more thorough in picking up bad (or potentially bad) code.  
If it is
Brendan> the latter, then it is well worth modifying the code to satisfy gcc.  
There are
Brendan> two good reasons for this.  1) The code should be less prone to 
errors.  2)
Brendan> There will be further releases of gcc.  If you want to stay with 
egcs/gcc-2.91
Brendan> for ever then there is no problem but I think most people will want 
the benefits
Brendan> that future releases of gcc will offer.

I totally agree. Instead of claiming gcc is broken dot, find the bugs
and report them. I've been using gcc-2.95.2 to compile linux kernel 2.2.12 
2.2.13
on Intel without any problem. There were two serious bugs in gcc-2.95.1 for 
PPC. I found
them while working on RTEMS on MCP750 (PowerPC Compaq PCI borad where I also 
ported linux).
I reported them and they are now fixed in gcc-2.95.2. One was fixed within a 
day even
if it took me a week to localize the bug. The code generated by gcc-2.95.2 on 
PPC is much 
more compac and efficient than with egcs 1.1.2...

Its free software guys. I you submit good bug reports, be sure the cygnus folks 
and
and other GCC gurus will fix them. Alos note that there are *clear* warnings 
with the asm
macros on the gcc page...

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Re: gcc 2.95.2 vs 2.91

[VALETTE Eric]

>>>>> "David" == David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> How do I track down what is causing that?

First try to find the .c file that is causing the problem. This may be
easy or not :(. Then check that compiling that file only with egcs-1.1.2
fixes the problem. Then split the file in multiple files to localize the
broken code and them comment the two asm (valid and invalid).

I know it is painfull but this is the only way things will evolve and 
you will have contributed (again) to free software. 

As soon as kernel 2.2.14 is out, I will try to report it
on my MCP750 and will tell you how it goes.

NB : be sure you use -fno-strict-aliasing when compiling as linux is known
to be broken using the strict-aliasin option.


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Re: [Fwd: trackpad-g3 powerbook]

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 23 May 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:

> On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 05:10:11AM -0500, Joshua Holland wrote:
> > > sorry to disturb you, but as I'm a full newbee, could you explain me how
> > > you install the trackpad_tool.
> > 
> > I'm pretty new at this too, so let me remember what I did...
> > Download the Trackpad file and gunzip it (gunzip filename).  You'll then 
> > have a few files in whatever directory you downloaded the original too.  
> > There should be one that ends in '.c'.  To compile it, type 'gcc 
> > filename.c'.  (you need to have gcc). Then you'll have a file called 
> > 'a.out'.  Rename it trackpad or something and move it to somwhere like 
> > /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin so you can just type it to run it.  So:
> 
> or gcc -o trackpad trackpad.c
> 
> (-o means save output to this filename)

oops sory about the confusion, I have'nt seen that trackpad_tool is a
program.

As I'm new dealing with kernel, I was afraid, thinking it was something
realy specific.

> and you should not put custom (ie anything non-debian) in /bin or
> /usr/bin, always /usr/local/{bin,sbin} (unless for some reason it must
> be accessable before filesystems are mounted at boot) /usr/ belongs to
> the debian packaging system so you should not mess with it, else your
> changes be overwritten or the packaging system confused.

I've put it in /usr/local/bin as most of the stuff I install.

but thanks a lot, for the quick and usefuls anwser

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Re: [Fwd: trackpad-g3 powerbook]

[Eric Deveaud]

On Mon, 22 May 2000, Josh wrote:

> > On Debian, I
> > believe you should look in /etc/rcS.d.
> 
> I can't figure out which file in /etc/rcS.d to put 'trackpad notap' in.
> 
> But the trackpad_tool program works fine, thanks for the help.


Hi not sure is the best solution but it works fine for me (potato on
pismo)

first
take a look at /etc/inittab, to see your default runlevel.
usually with debian, runlevel is 2
# The default runlevel.
id:2:initdefault:

second 
as root create the following script on /etc/init.d/trackpad_no_tap

#! /bin/sh
/the/full/path/to/your/trackpad_tool notap

third
as root chmod 755 the script
 
fourth 
as root
ln -s /etc/rc2.d/trackpad_no_tap /etc/rcN.d/trackpad_no_tap
where N is your default runlevel

when is done, each time you will boot your powerbook, the track-pad
tapping will be disabled

Eric

PS
I do this way, cause it allows me to centralize all my stuff in init.d
after that playing with links I can play as I want
any advice is welcome


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Re: [Fwd: trackpad-g3 powerbook]

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 23 May 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:

> On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 01:38:03PM +0200, Eric Deveaud wrote:
> > 
> > first
> > take a look at /etc/inittab, to see your default runlevel.
> > usually with debian, runlevel is 2
> > # The default runlevel.
> > id:2:initdefault:
> 
> standard debian.
> 
> > second 
> > as root create the following script on /etc/init.d/trackpad_no_tap
> > 
> > #! /bin/sh
> > /the/full/path/to/your/trackpad_tool notap
> 
> yup that is ok.
> 
> > third
> > as root chmod 755 the script
> 
> yup
> 
> > fourth 
> > as root
> > ln -s /etc/rc2.d/trackpad_no_tap /etc/rcN.d/trackpad_no_tap
error^
read instead /etc/rcN.d/S99trackpad_no_tap

I put it just before xdm.  

> > where N is your default runlevel
> 
> nah, better way is this:
> 
> update-rc.d -f trackpad_no_tap 80 S .
> 
> this adds a symlink /etc/rcS.d/S80trackpad_no_tap
> 
> /etc/rcS.d is only run ONCE at boottime, which is fine since the
> trackpad settings should be persistent accross runlevel changes.  
> 
> also i believe init will ignore symlinks not starting with SNN.

yes, it was an error

> 
> init starts the scripts with the start and stop arguments, but since
> your script is only started and not killed (no need) you need not
> worry about handing these arugments (they are quietly ignored).
> 
> > when is done, each time you will boot your powerbook, the track-pad
> > tapping will be disabled
> 
> yup.
> 
> > I do this way, cause it allows me to centralize all my stuff in init.d
> > after that playing with links I can play as I want
> > any advice is welcome
> 
> man update-rc.d


that's what i'll do since I've sent this email.

Eric

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Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Olaf Grewe wrote:

> 
> >
> >Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs:
> >
> >http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/
> >
> I'm afraid that link is broken...

it seem's to be


it's currently pointing to the tarball from 05-Jun-2000






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date problem on pismo

[Eric Deveaud]

Hello,

I'm in trouble with my date settings on powerbook G3 firewire
(pismo) running debian potato, and MacOs 9.04 

currently my date in losing time everydays.
I loose 1 hour evry 4 days. (anoying for compilation an other
things...)

I don't have any idea from where the problem  commes.
Is this a known problem, and how I can solve-it.

I would like to find a solution, whithout using a ntp server.

thanks in advance.
I'm sure I would enjoy 24h15 per days, but not my computer


note.
1) I have disabled all the time's stuff on MacOs. => no change, the date
still losing time
2) deleting /etc/adjtime before setting the date, gives me a litle delay,
before date loose time




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Re: date problem on pismo

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Sergio Brandano wrote:

> 
>  1. Install ntpd and ntpdate. Make sure that are ntp is the only
> program of that kind that you have installed. ntpdate needs the
> name of a server into /etc/init.d/ntpdate.
>  2. delete /etc/adjtime
>  3. set the timezone (tzconfig, tzselect)
>  4. run "/etc/init.d/ntpdate start". If succeeds, this should
> set the clock to the correct values.
>  5. Replace /etc/init/d/ntpdate with a dummy version of it, as
> described in my PowerBook page, and run ntpdate.disabled
> *by hand*, when you are connected and need doint it.

Thanks for this quick anwser, but I owuld like to deal whithout
ntp. I'm not always plugged on the network when I work with my pismo.Scm99
but I'll put up this stuff, as I use my mac at work, with a local network,
and a ntp server

thanks again

>  At this point if Linux modifies your clock in some way, you have
>  some other program that is affecting the clock. Remove it, then
>  reset the clock as from above. If you still have problems, chances
>  are that your Pismo has a broken master clock, i.e. it is an issue
>  that you can solve via AppleCare...

let see
I hoppe it's just a soft error, or mistake i've done.

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Re: date problem on pismo

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Sergio Brandano wrote:

> 
>  Then
>  1. remove /etc/adjtime
>  2. set the timezone
>  3. reset the clock from MacOS.
> 
>  Ensure that no linux program modifies the clock.

stage 1 and 3 were done, but I havn't set the timezone

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Re: date problem on pismo

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Sergio Brandano wrote:

> 
> > stage 1 and 3 were done, but I havn't set the timezone
> 
>  You have to.

done, I'll tell you the result in 2-3 days

Eric



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Re: X Trouble

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Edwin Rudolph wrote:

> I just installed potato on my PowerBook and am having some trouble with
> getting the X server to work right.  I first tried to fire up X with the
> default FBDev server, and that didn't work at all.  The only way I could
> get X going was to use the Xpmac server from LinuxPPC.  Moreover, if I
> left the video device box unchecked in BootX, I get 8 bit mode, if I check
> it, I can get 32 bit mode.  
> 
> Another thing is the mouse button emulation--doesn't work at all.  Even
> stranger is that sometimes it seems like the buttons are being pressed
> "magically"--as if the computer thought a button was being held down when
> it wasn't.  Other times, the mouse button doesn't do anything--nothing
> will happen when I click the button. (All of this is of course w/Xpmac).

it's related to the trackpad default setting, tapping on the trackpad is
set to be a doublke-click, annoying
you can fix this usig the trackpad_tol program, it's a tinny program, that
allow you to set the behavior of the trackpad.  

take a look at 
http://xenu.phys.uit.no/~alvin/linux/pbg3.html>
the source code is here 
http://xenu.phys.uit.no/~alvin/linux/trackpad_tool.tar.gz>

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Mising Package on debian PPC

[Eric Valette]

Package: gs
Version: 5.10-9

Package: cvs
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Re: g3 pismo - monitor out

[Eric Deveaud]

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Karsten Droste wrote:

> how can activate the monitor out plug.
> 
> the external monitor works with mac os but
> not with 2.2.16pre4.


I read few months ago a tip, posted on comp.os.linux.powerpc by Rob
Minerick to make the external monitor workin on Pismo.
You need XFree86 4.0

Have'nt tested it, but here is the solution

    enjoy

Eric

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 25 08:56:53 2000
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:24:08 -0500
From: Rob Minerick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: External video on a Pismo solution...

I've come up with a solution that should work for many of those people
out there with Pismo's trying to use external video. I should mention
that it only allows you to use the external video by itself, it doesn't
allow you to use both together. It also requires that you have an
external keyboard (I believe, although I have not gone too far into this
because it doesn't matter to me). Anyway, it should still be of use to
those of you who would like to use your Powerbook as a desktop while at
home. Anyway, here's how I got it too work (This assumes you have
properly install XFree86 4.0):

1. Boot into MacOS with the lid closed.
2. Select the resolution you wish to use your Powerbook in when in
Linux.
3. Add this to your yaboot.conf file

image = hd:11,vmlinux   << or whatever your kernel location is
label = External
append = "video=ofonly"

4. Boot into linux, using the "External" configuration described above.
5. Pull up a root shell and add this to your /etc/X11/XF86Config file:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "G810"  << whatever you wish to call this
VendorName  "Viewsonic" << monitor vendor name
ModelName   "Graphics 810"  << monitor model name
HorizSync   30-97   << check your monitor specs
VertRefresh 50-170  << check your monitor specs
EndSection

Section "Device"
Option  "UseFBDev"
Identifier  "Ext"   << whatever you wish to call this
Driver  "fbdev"
BusID   `   "PCI:0:16:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen1"   << whatever you wish to call this
Device  "Ext"   << the identifier you used in "Device"
Monitor "G810"  << the identifier you used in "Monitor"
DefaultDepth8   << I've only had success using 8-bit
SubSection  "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1280x1024" << the resolution you chose in MacOS
EndSubSection
EndSection

6. I assume you'll probably want to use an external USB mouse as well,
in which case you need to add:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse1"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
EndSection

7. Finally, at the beginning of the XF86Config file there should be a
section labeled "ServerLayout". You should change this to reflect your
new values. For example, with the above configuration you'll have
something that looks like this:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen1" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

8. Save the file and try it out.

Let me know your experiences with this. I've not tried this on any of
the RedHat derived distributions, only on Debian, but hopefully it'll
work for all of those. It's an iterim solution while those people who
work so hard supporting PowerPC Linux development get us accelerated
external video on our Pismos. If anyone has any questions/problems
getting this to work, feel free to contact me via email...

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Debian 2.2 Installer kernel image for MCP750

[Eric Valette]

If someone give me an FTP access somewhere, I can upload a linux+ramdisk
image enabling to install potato on motorola MCP750 via PPCBUG.

kernel = 2.2.17pre9 + MCP750 specific patches...

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RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

[Eric Molitor]

Ag, evil. If you plan to use busybox upgrade to .46 there are some serious
problems with .45 in regards to tar and nfs.

On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Frank Smith wrote:

> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> Ben Armstrong wrote:
> 
> > anywhere else in Debian?  It's curious that busybox isn't packaged
> > separately. 
> 
> Actually, a few weeks ago Erik Anderson wrote to tell me:
> 
> >>FYI, I just uploaded
> >>busybox_0.45-1_i386.deb
> >>busybox-static_0.45-1_i386.deb
> >>busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes
> >>busybox_0.45-1.dsc
> >>busybox_0.45-1.tar.gz
> >>
> >>to ftp-master, where it is now sitting in incoming.
> 
> 
> -Frank.
> 
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Re: mac on linux compilation

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Clay Ginsburg wrote:


> Oh one other thing, what is the best way to emulate a 2 button or 3 
> button mouse for X(in particular either afterstep or kde).

emulation of mouse buttons depends on wich Xserver your using.
in Xpmac-rev10 you should emulate the buttons with the following options
-middlekey key_code
-rightkey key_code
 
for example my Xpmac options looks like
local /usr/bin/X11/Xpmac.rev10 -mode 17 -depth 24 -middlekey 111 -rightkey
119 

that I have middle button mapped with F11 and righ button mapped with F12
on a pismo powerbook 


and sotty I don't now yet how to done the same with Xfree86-fbdev nor
Xfre86-4.*.

>  And is it 
> possible i could remap the delete key on the g3 keyboard to ^h instead 
> of the forward delete?


I've got the same problem, and I use xmodmap to correct this.
under X (only X) my backspace was acting as ^d not as ^h.
using xev I check the keycode generated by the bacspace, (in my case it
was keycode 59)
after that putting this lines in the .xsession correct the problem
xmodmap - << EOT
keycode 59 = BackSpace
EOT


NB I've not seen xev for the powerPC, I was using it from my PC debian
Box to check the keycode from the powerbook.

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Re: mac on linux compilation

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> Eric Deveaud wrote:
> 
> > and sotty I don't now yet how to done the same with Xfree86-fbdev nor
> > Xfre86-4.*.
> 
> It's not done by the server there but by the kernel. The
> adb_buttons=, kernel option for 2.2 kernels handles this, you
> have to put keycodes as shown by showkey there.
> 
> 
> > NB I've not seen xev for the powerPC, I was using it from my PC debian
> > Box to check the keycode from the powerbook.
> 
> After a search at
> 
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
> 
> I think it should be in the xcontrib package.


right, I just missed the packages, I was looking for a packages xev.

thanks

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Re: potato install problems

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:

> hi *,
> 
>   i installed debian on a number of powerpc macs but now i have
> some serious problems on a PowerBook G3 - built year 2000. potato
> kernels simply don't start, just lock bootx and the mac. i found a
> yellowdog kernel that does boot but the install then stops at the
> first screen of dinstall. apparently i can't proceed because the
> keyboard doesn't work at all. no enter, no space, no way to go om.

use the kernel from Benh's page.
http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/>

use yaboot same URL

Eric

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RS-6000 43P

[Eric Reischer]

PLEASE HELP!!!  I have an RS-6000 43P Model 240 that I'm trying to install 
Debian onto, and I cannot get a single kernel to boot off of this blasted 
thing.  Every time I try to boot a kernel image it pukes up an error, which 
varies depending on what kernel you're using.
First, if anybody knows what architecture this is (CHRP or PReP), please 
let me know, because I'm still clueless.  If you could point out how to 
tell which it is that would be even better.
Second, if anybody knows of any kernels that will work with this machine 
(and the OF commands to load it) I would be greatly appreciative if you 
would let me in on the secret.  I have visited all of the Debian 
documentation sites, and they all unfortunately say something to the effect 
of "Not ready yet  Please add documentation" (which isn't too 
helpful).  If anybody could shine some light on my situation I'd greatly 
appreciate.  If you want specific errors and such let me know and I'll give 
them to you.  Thanks in advance!


Eric

Building PPC Kernel

[Eric Reischer]

OK I just got done reading through IBM's sketchy information pages, and it 
appears as though I need to build a 2.4 kernel in order to be able to boot 
off of my RS-6000 43P 240 machine.  Can I build a kernel for a PPC 
architecture on an i386 machine, or do I have to find (fat chance) a 
powerpc machine to build the kernel on?  Better yet, does anybody have a 
pre-compiled PPC kernel version 2.4?

Re: Building PPC Kernel

[Eric Reischer]

At 10:38 PM 10/11/00 , Ethan Benson wrote:

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:27:35PM -0400, Eric Reischer wrote:
> OK I just got done reading through IBM's sketchy information pages, and it
> appears as though I need to build a 2.4 kernel in order to be able to boot
> off of my RS-6000 43P 240 machine.  Can I build a kernel for a PPC
> architecture on an i386 machine, or do I have to find (fat chance) a
> powerpc machine to build the kernel on?  Better yet, does anybody have a
> pre-compiled PPC kernel version 2.4?

you could build a cross compiler for powerpc, i once looked into doing
this when i was stuck with linuxppc and its broken compiler, i decided
waiting until i could get debian installed was a better idea ;-) (iow
its a royal pain)

i assume you can build an RS-6000 kernel on any powerpc machine
including macs right?  id build one for you (or let you build it
yourself) but i have a slow connection and no 2.4 source trees
around..


Well, I'm assuming that it would work, just as long as it uses the PowerPC 
arch for the build.  I tried using IBM's config file they provide at 
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/projects/ppc/con 
fig.power3, but when I did the make it blew up when it went to compile in 
'offb.c' with about 2 dozen errors.  I did notice that it was running gcc 
with the args '-march=i686', which can't be doing anything good here.  If 
you want to try to build a kernel then cheers to you.you'll probably be 
the first other than IBM to be able to do it, and I'd be very 
grateful.  Kernel sources are at ftp.kernel.org under the v2.4 folder.  The 
most recent one is 2.4.0-test9.  My last resort would be to pester the hell 
out of IBM until they give me some type of response, because we're renting 
these machines from them and as of now they are just chewing up our money..


Eric

Tweaking Kernel Makefile

[Eric Reischer]

If I "tweak" the top-level makefile for a 2.3 kernel to force the ARCH 
variable to be PPC instead of running uname -m, would that produce a 
successful compile for a PowerPC kernel, providing I get the makefiles 
correct?  It seems too easy, and I'm probably wrong, but this seems to be 
the only variable affecting how the kernel is built.


Eric

zsh-dev version ???

[Eric Deveaud]

Hello,

could someone explain me one thing ??

with an /etc/apt/source.list pointing to stable

deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
   ^^
why apt-get install zsh retrieves zsh 3.1.6.pws21-1
as far as I know, it's a developement version no ?? correct me if I'm
wrong.
is it normal to get a developpemnt version of something when using a
"stable" distribution ???

OK you will answer, that zsh-3.0.7 is still available, and "aptable"

Eric



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Re: zsh-dev version ???

[Eric Deveaud]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 04:16:50PM +0200, Eric Deveaud wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > could someone explain me one thing ??
> > 
> > with an /etc/apt/source.list pointing to stable
> > 
> > deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> >^^
> > why apt-get install zsh retrieves zsh 3.1.6.pws21-1
> > as far as I know, it's a developement version no ?? correct me if I'm
> > wrong.
> > is it normal to get a developpemnt version of something when using a
> > "stable" distribution ???
> > 
> > OK you will answer, that zsh-3.0.7 is still available, and "aptable"
> 
> Because the maintainer of the zsh packages considered 3.1.6.pws* to be
> useful and stable enough to allow uploads to stable.  Install zsh30 if
> it bothers you; I use 3.1.6 daily, and I haven't had a problem with it
> in almost a year.

thanks for the answer

I was asking this because I notice that with 3.1.6 the ctrl-A produce an 
^A and ctrl-E produce an ^E, not really what I was expecting... 
furthermore, I was unable to delete something on the command line except
the end of the line...

I guess it's due to something wrong with my config, but reverting to
3.0.7 correct the problem.

I didn't consider this as a "useful and stable enough shell"

Eric

NB i fyou want/need some particulars details about my config, I'll be
happy to answer you.

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Kernel image

[Eric Reischer]

If anybody is running an RS-6000 43P that has a 2.4 kernel built, could you 
please sent it to me (off list)?  I don't have a PowerPC machine to build a 
kernel on, and none of the ones offered with any of the distros are working 
with my machine.  Thanks.


Eric

Re: Kernel image

[Eric Reischer]

I have tried setting up cross-compiling, but never found all the necessary 
source files to make the compiler.


Eric

At 07:49 AM 10/24/00 , Rob Andrews wrote:

In newsgate.debian.powerpc, Eric Reischer wrote:
 > If anybody is running an RS-6000 43P that has a 2.4 kernel built, 
could you
 > please sent it to me (off list)?  I don't have a PowerPC machine to 
build a
 > kernel on, and none of the ones offered with any of the distros are 
working

 > with my machine.  Thanks.

Have you tried cross-compiling?

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Re: Xpmac or XFree4

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, ciro aisa wrote:

> where can I download Xpmac for debian-powerpc
> and where are these experimental XFree4 debs for debian-powerpc too ??

You can dl Xpmac.rev10 from the suse ftp server
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/powerpc/xpmac/>

just decompress the archive, it's the binary (don't know where to find
Xpmac sources)
drop it in /usr/bin/X11 (or somewhere else)
chmod 755 the binary

modify your /etc/X11/Xserver to use Xpmac

Eric

NB you will need xfonts-scalable in order to use Xpmac.
  

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/proc/self/maps ---p segment

[Eric Marsden]

The file /proc/self/maps reifies the memory maps of the current
process (as per proc(5)). Each dynamic library linked to the process
has a private, read-only zone (the code, I presume), plus a private
copy-on-write zone (the stack). On LinuxPPC there is a third zone with
permissions `---p' at an offset with respect to the shared library's
file (this doesn't appear on linux/x86).

Could someone explain what this corresponds to? Is it just a question
of data alignment?

,
| 0fda8000-0fdb1000 r-xp  03:06 30748  /lib/libnss_files-2.1.1.so
| 0fdb1000-0fde8000 ---p 9000 03:06 30748  /lib/libnss_files-2.1.1.so
| 0fde8000-0fdf2000 rwxp  03:06 30748  /lib/libnss_files-2.1.1.so
| 0fe02000-0fedd000 r-xp  03:06 30727  /lib/libc-2.1.1.so
| 0fedd000-0ff12000 ---p 000db000 03:06 30727  /lib/libc-2.1.1.so
| 0ff12000-0ff3 rwxp 000d 03:06 30727  /lib/libc-2.1.1.so
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Re: Innd problems

[Eric Reischer]

Try checking the permissions and ownership on it.  I've had that problem 
before, but it wasn't with lnnd.


Eric

At 03:53 PM 10/26/00 , Paul Talacko wrote:


I can't get Innd to start and keep getting this error in my syslog:

SERVER cant bdzinit /var/lib/news/history No such file or directory

Now, the file IS there.  I've also run makehistory as user news to make
it, but I keep getting this error.

Is there something else I should be doing?

Thanks

Paul



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Re: Kernel Image

[Eric Reischer]

/usr/src/binutils/target $ ../configure --prefix=/usr/src/cross 
--target=ppc-unknown-linux-gnu


Does it matter that when I type in the above command it says "Configuring 
for a i586-pc-linux-gnu host?"  (And it makes the ppc-unknown-linux-gnu 
folder in the /usr/src/binutils/target folder (which is where I ran the 
../configure from)  My ultimate aim, obviously from the above, is to make a 
ppc cross-compiler on an intel machine.


Eric

Network Boot Problems

[Eric Reischer]

I'm having a small problem that is turning out to be a bigger pain than I 
expected.  I have an IBM RS/6000 machine that I'm installing Linux on, but 
when I try to get it to boot off the network, it contacts my bootp server 
(which happens to be an intel Debian box) and starts to download the 
file.  The strange thing is, it only fully completes the download about 1/4 
of the times I try to get it to download.  Usually, when I type in 'boot 
net' to get it to boot from the network, it loads anywhere between 1500 and 
2000 packets, and then stops.  About 20 seconds later, it gives me a packet 
error (which on IBM machines is just a bunch of numbers) and the network 
boot fails.  Other times, if I'm lucky, it'll go through fine.  This is a 
pain because it makes booting kernel images >1Meg really hard because the 
bigger it is the more of a chance of it failing part-way through.  Anybody 
seen this before?


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Kernel build crapped out

[Eric Reischer]

I tried to build a kernel on my newly built cross-compiler this evening, 
and after about an hour of compiling the zImage, it gave the the following 
error:


powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-ld -T arch/ppc/mm/mm.o command for about 11 lines)

drivers/input/inputdrv.o: In function 'keybdev_event':
drivers/input/inputdrv.o(.text+0x16bc): undefined reference to 'emulate_raw'
drivers/input/inputdrv.o(.text+0x16bc): relocation truncated to fit: 
R_PPC_REL24 emulate_raw

make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1

Anybody know what I'm doing wrong; or if it's a bug, is there a patch?



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Re: Kernel build crapped out

[Eric Reischer]

Sorry about that.I'm compiling a 2.4test9 kernel.  And when I did the 
config, I issued the command:

make CROSS_COMPILE=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu- ARCH=ppc config
which automatically put the CONFIG_PPC entry in the autoconf.h file.

Eric

At 02:33 AM 10/31/00 , Martin Costabel wrote:

Eric Reischer wrote:
>
> I tried to build a kernel on my newly built cross-compiler this evening,
> and after about an hour of compiling the zImage, it gave the the following
> error:
>
> powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-ld -T arch/ppc/mm/mm.o  command for about 11 lines)
> drivers/input/inputdrv.o: In function 'keybdev_event':
> drivers/input/inputdrv.o(.text+0x16bc): undefined reference to 
'emulate_raw'

> drivers/input/inputdrv.o(.text+0x16bc): relocation truncated to fit:
> R_PPC_REL24 emulate_raw
> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
>
> Anybody know what I'm doing wrong; or if it's a bug, is there a patch?

You don't even say what kernel version you are trying to compile, and I
know nothing about cross-compiling, but I'll try a guess anyway:

Do you have "#define CONFIG_PPC 1" in your include/linux/autoconf.h? If
not, why not?

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Re: Kernel build crapped out

[Eric Reischer]

Is this something that should be submitted to the Linux Kernel mailing list 
to be fixed by the next kernel prerelease?


Eric

At 06:49 PM 10/31/00 , Martin Costabel wrote:

Eric Reischer wrote:
>
> Sorry about that.I'm compiling a 2.4test9 kernel.  And when I did the
> config, I issued the command:
> make CROSS_COMPILE=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu- ARCH=ppc config
> which automatically put the CONFIG_PPC entry in the autoconf.h file.
[]
> > > drivers/input/inputdrv.o: In function 'keybdev_event':
> > > drivers/input/inputdrv.o(.text+0x16bc): undefined reference to
> > 'emulate_raw'

OK, since what you are describing is impossible with the version of
drivers/input/keybdev.c I have (from the bitkeeper linuxppc tree), I had
a look at the version supplied with the "official" 2.4.0test9.

That's a really weird one, and the word "crap" you used seems justified:
The function emulate_raw is used without any ifs, but its definition
some lines earlier is enclosed in either
#if defined(CONFIG_X86) || defined(CONFIG_IA64) || defined(__alpha__) ||
defined(__mips__)
or
#elif defined(CONFIG_ADB_KEYBOARD)

So in your case you would need to put CONFIG_ADB_KEYBOARD=y into your
.config file. Or change these weird #ifs.

The bitkeeper version of the file is somewhat better in that it uses
only one set of conditionals,
#if defined(CONFIG_X86) || defined(CONFIG_IA64) || defined(__alpha__) ||
defined (__mips__) || defined(CONFIG_PPC)
but the function is still used without any condition.

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kernel compile

[Eric Reischer]

Perhaps somebody can help me with this problem.  I'm building
antoher 2.4test9 kernel, and for the life of me cannot figure out why I
can't enable the SYM53C8XX low-level SCSI driver in the kernel.  No
matter what I select and/or deselect, I just can't get that field to
un-grey-out in the xconfig window.  Is there a dependency that I
don't know about here?


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INIT frezzes on boot

[Eric Reischer]

Has anybody heard of INIT freezing just as it is starting up on a PowerPC 
machine?  I'm using my own custom kernel, but I'm using Debian's root.bin 
image to mount as root.  After it mounts the root partition, the computer 
frees the unused kernel memory, and then hangs (I'm guessing it's trying to 
load init or something.  Ctrl-Alt-Del still works, and it does a clean 
reboot, but I don't get the usual init messages that go along with it (e.g. 
INIT: Switching to runlevel 6), so I'm assuming that the machine is not 
"hung", but is instead waiting for something???




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pmud.deb ??

[Eric Deveaud]

Hello

I'm wondering if pmud-0.7 was packaged for debian, or if I should
compile it from pmud-0.7-1.src.rpm or 'alienate' the pmud-0.7-1.ppc.rpm

thanks

Eric


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