Re: "testing" broken on PPC ?
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Should I use woody instead ? "testing" has broken deps (debianutils wants > libc6 >2.1.97 while 2.1.3-13 is to be installed) woody _is_ testing ;) You may try unstable aka sid. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: "testing" broken on PPC ?
Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > Should I use woody instead ? "testing" has broken deps (debianutils wants > > libc6 >2.1.97 while 2.1.3-13 is to be installed) > > woody _is_ testing ;) > > You may try unstable aka sid. After some thinking, you should even be able to just get the libc6 etc. debs from unstable and continue with testing otherwise. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: X sort of works
Phil Fraering wrote: > > > > I tried the new 4.0.2 x last night; it crashed hard. > > > > What hardware? > > It's blue! > > Seriously, an iBook DV 366 Mhz. Does that have a Rage Mobility M3 or an older one? Have you configured everything correctly? What exactly happened? > I may try building from source in a little while. Should I > get official sources or the apt-get sources? Source debs of course. You don't want to pollute your Debian with uncontrolled software do you? :) Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: "testing" broken on PPC ?
Peter Meilstrup wrote: > > FWIW, I have my apt pointed at testing and woody, and I got libc > 2.2-6 a couple weeks ago. Did you use apt-get dist-upgrade instead > of upgrade? dist-upgrade does a better job of sorting through the > dependencies. glibc 2.2-6 should indeed be in testing now (just learned that from DWN), but it most certainly wasn't a couple weeks ago. You probably got it when woody was still unstable, like I did. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: r128 driver, unresolved symbols, XF86 4.0.2-1
jingai wrote: > > Hello all, I am having troubles with the latest XF86 packages (4.0.2-1) > and the r128 driver module.. X complains of numerous unresolved symbols > in the r128 driver, as shown below. It also aborts and dumps core, so if > anyone needs the core file (approx. 6MB) I do still have it. > > Any help is much appreciated, as unaccelerated X is terribly slow :) > > Here is the output from X: [...] This was fixed for someone on the Xpert list when he replaced "r128" by "ati" for the Driver name in the Device Section. But that's strange; "r128" works for me like it should (the ati driver should listen to the "r128" and "radeon" aliases). Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: modem works!, battery drains fast?
Doug McNaught wrote: > > Another thing you can do, that trades off Unix semantics for battery > efficiency, is to mount all your filesystems with the 'noatime' > option. If you don't do this, even reading a file that's in cache > will cause a disk write, to update the access time field of the > inode. There isn't much on a typical workstation that depends on > 'atime' being correct, so it's probably worth doing for laptops. What exactly is 'not much'? :) > I got this off linux-kernel a while back and hadn't seen it mentioned > yet, so I thought I'd pipe up. Thanks for the suggestion. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: modem works!, battery drains fast?
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > My guess is you have all sorts of funny daemons running that peek at the > > > disk every few seconds. With LinuxPPC I had to disable things like > > > icecast, crossfire, and I think even sendmail, before disk activity > > > would drop to a sane level. > > > > I don't have any of these; would exim be a usual suspect as well? > > Guess so - anything that reads or writes files (or directories) on a > regular basis is a candidate. Set the queue run interval to 1h to take > care of this. Well, I only run exim via xinetd, so the queue is run by a cron job. It was set to run every half an hour, I've changed it to one hour now. :) > > > lsof +D /var should show some of the usual suspects. > > > > That yields syslogd, cron, gdm, XFree86, gnome-pty-helper and lpd. I > > wouldn't suspect anyone but syslogd here, right? > > lpd doesn't check the spool dir by itself. gdm and XFree86 are a must I > assume :-) Any cron jobs that run more often than every few minutes? None AFAICS. > > > And I don't get the disk to spin down all of the time... > > > > BTW what would be considered a sane timeout for standby? Does it harm the > > disk if I set it to the minimum of 5 seconds and it gets powered down and > > back up all the time? > > It may harm the disk, but it sure doesn't save any power. I'd try half a > minute or a minute as a minimum. Okay, so that's why you have one minute in pwrctl. :) Thanks to you too for your suggestions! Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: modem works!, battery drains fast?
Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:27:18AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > lpd doesn't check the spool dir by itself. gdm and XFree86 are a must I > > assume :-) Any cron jobs that run more often than every few minutes? > > does cron not check /etc/cron.d often? i know you can drop files in > there and cron will use them without restarting it so it must check > this somehow... According to the manpage it does so every minute, and I haven't found a way around this so it could be the showstopper. > > Seems like syslogd doesn't provide such an option... Log less, or log to a > > remote host. > > it sort of does, from the man page: > >You may prefix each entry with the minus ``-'' sign to >omit syncing the file after every logging. Note that you >might lose information if the system crashes right behind >a write attempt. Nevertheless this might give you back >some performance, especially if you run programs that use >logging in a very verbose manner. > > referring to the file path your logging to. some entries in the > default syslog.conf are already set this way. turning off the -- MARK -- > thing would probably help to. Thanks for the suggestions! Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: modem works!, battery drains fast?
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > BTW what would be considered a sane timeout for standby? Does it harm > > > the disk if I set it to the minimum of 5 seconds and it gets powered > > > down and back up all the time? > > > > It may harm the disk, but it sure doesn't save any power. I'd try half a > > minute or a minute as a minimum. > > Note that if a disk dies, it's usually while spinning up... Oops there go my plans... no seriously, thanks for the warning. > Reducing the speed of your CD-ROM helps as well. I know a friend who played > MP3s from CD on his notebook. Everytime he started playing a new song his > zillion-speed CD-ROM player had to spin up to lightspeed, consuming lots of > power. Reducing the speed to single-speed helped a lot. I use the DVD ROM very seldom and AFAICT it's off or at least in standby most of the time, but thanks for the hint anyway. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Questions about various upgrades: Netscape, XF etc.
Renaud Dreyer wrote: > >I've been running potato on my PowerMac 7300 for almost a year now, > and am wondering if it would be the time to upgrade various > packages. > > First, I assume I can safely upgrade to the Netscape 4.7x packages > in woody (or is it sid?)? I'm running Netscape 4.6 right now. I'd say so, the only problems I've had with 4.7 are related to Roaming Access. > Second, I've been running Xfree 3.98 (beta version of 4) for a while > now and I'd love to upgrade to the "real" thing. Are the XF 4.02 > pacakges I keep reading about compatible with potato or only with > woody/sid? The latter. You could build them yourself on potato though. > Sould I simply upgrade to sid/woody? I'm feeling a little bit > squeamish about such a radical change. Changing to testing (woody) shouldn't be too radical but will get you everything you want soon. unstable (sid) is not for the faint of heart. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Booting Patch
Daryl Moulder wrote: > > Would it be possible to get the booting patch mentioned in this slashdot > article > > http://slashdot.org/articles/01/01/04/1336222.shtml > > Direct Link : > > http://lpp.FreeLords.org/ > > If it has anything to do with the pc bios probably not but if it just uses > the frambuffer loading mechanism which ppc has always used to emulate a > console screen then it should work. The patch applies cleanly, but it looks like it only works with vesafb, which we don't have. Why it should need that is beyond me so I suggest you bug the author(s) about it. :) Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: r128 driver, unresolved symbols, XF86 4.0.2-1
jingai wrote: > > > Hello all, I am having troubles with the latest XF86 packages (4.0.2-1) > > > and the r128 driver module.. X complains of numerous unresolved symbols > > > in the r128 driver, as shown below. It also aborts and dumps core, so > > > if anyone needs the core file (approx. 6MB) I do still have it. > > > > > > Any help is much appreciated, as unaccelerated X is terribly slow :) > > > > > > Here is the output from X: > > > > [...] > > > > This was fixed for someone on the Xpert list when he replaced "r128" by > > "ati" for the Driver name in the Device Section. But that's strange; > > "r128" works for me like it should (the ati driver should listen to the > > "r128" and "radeon" aliases). > > hah, weird.. the "ati" driver works fine, and it is definitely > accelerated.. .but the r128 driver won't load due to the unresolved > symbols.. The former r128 and radeon drivers have been integrated into the ati driver, so r128_drv.o is only a submodule of ati_drv.o anymore. The question is why r128_drv.o gets loaded directly in the first place. "r128" and "radeon" in the Device Section should both load the ati driver now. I hope you are in fact using the 4.0.2 XFree86 binary? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Booting Patch
Adam Sjøgren wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 17:50:07 +0100, nzer wrote: > > >> Would it be possible to get the booting patch mentioned in this > >> slashdot article > > >> http://slashdot.org/articles/01/01/04/1336222.shtml > > >> Direct Link : > > >> http://lpp.FreeLords.org/ > > >> If it has anything to do with the pc bios probably not but if it > >> just uses the frambuffer loading mechanism which ppc has always > >> used to emulate a console screen then it should work. > > > The patch applies cleanly, but it looks like it only works with > > vesafb, which we don't have. > > It works on my iBook - I think the references to vesafb are just > because the screenmode must be set to something that can display the > image (640x480x8) - using the atyfb on my iBook works just fine. I didn't see the option to use it in the kernel config so I assumed it really wanted vesafb. Sorry for the confusion. > I tried making an 800x600-image instead, but didn't succeed (black > screen, one garbled line of funny chars and machine hangs). > > The original Debian-theme, 640x480, from the website works fine. This is a problem for Pismos and recent iBooks because aty128fb can't use anything else than the panel resolution yet. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: IP MASQing on PPC
Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > > I compiled my kernel with these options: > > CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y > CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_ICMP=y > CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MOD=y > CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPAUTOFW=m > CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPPORTFW=m > CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MFW=m > > and insmod?ed the modulebased kernel pieces. > > /sbin/depmod -a > > /sbin/insmod ip_masq_user > /sbin/insmod ip_masq_raudio > /sbin/insmod ip_masq_ftp > /sbin/insmod ip_masq_irc > > poked 1 to ip_forward > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > and MASQed LAN > > /sbin/ipchains -F > /sbin/ipchains -X > /sbin/ipchains -M -S 7200 10 160 > > /sbin/ipchains -P forward ACCEPT > /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQ > > /sbin/ipchains -P input ACCEPT > > /sbin/ipchains -P output ACCEPT > > after this I tried to: # ipchains -vL > > but no rules show up? > > tcpdump does not seem to show translated IPs for packets. Have you tried just installing the ipmasq package? Michel -- Earthling Michel Daenzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: r128 driver, unresolved symbols, XF86 4.0.2-1
jingai wrote: > > > > hah, weird.. the "ati" driver works fine, and it is definitely > > > accelerated.. .but the r128 driver won't load due to the unresolved > > > symbols.. > > > > The former r128 and radeon drivers have been integrated into the ati > > driver, so r128_drv.o is only a submodule of ati_drv.o anymore. The > question is > > why r128_drv.o gets loaded directly in the first place. "r128" and > "radeon" > > in the Device Section should both load the ati driver now. I hope you are > in > > fact using the 4.0.2 XFree86 binary? > > Yep: > > colour:/home/jingai# X -version > > XFree86 Version 4.0.2 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) > Release Date: 18 December 2000 > > And I was specifying "r128" in the Device section before this release, > which worked up until now. "ati" works fine though, so it's not a huge > deal, but it's obviously a buglet, probably introduced when merging > the two drivers. I'm not sure. The merge happened before 4.0.1e so it was even in earlier debs. BTW I forgot that you're also running on PPC; this is very interesting because "r128" works for me. Now I'm very confused. > Also, I have one more question regarding this release: I just installed > Debian/sid onto a friend's system, who has an ATI RAGE LT PRO > PCI card, and specifying "ati" in the Device section hangs his machine > hard. Similar to what had happened to me a few releases back. > Unfortunately, I can't look at the output from X because his kernel > hangs before it can flush the cache to disk. You could probably get a log by remounting the filesystem synchronously, but I doubt it would be too helpful. It's possible that he needs to rebuild using the rsync tree from Ani Joshi. > BTW, I am using the latest BK development tree, and he is using > Paul's stable (2.2.18). Also, his machine is literally identical to > mine aside from the video board (both of us have a UMAX S900), > although his video board *did* work in my machine some time > back with an older XF4 release (it used to be my card). Some Mach64 based chips cause problems with 2.2 kernels so he might need to also use a 2.4 one or a patch from Michael Schmitz (check the -powerpc archives). Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: r128 driver, unresolved symbols, XF86 4.0.2-1
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:23:32AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > jingai wrote:
> > > And I was specifying "r128" in the Device section before this release,
> > > which worked up until now. "ati" works fine though, so it's not a huge
> > > deal, but it's obviously a buglet, probably introduced when merging
> > > the two drivers.
> >
> > I'm not sure. The merge happened before 4.0.1e so it was even in earlier
> > debs.
> >
> > BTW I forgot that you're also running on PPC; this is very interesting
> > because "r128" works for me. Now I'm very confused.
>
> I presume that if you explicitly mention enough things in the Modules
> section of the XF86Config-4 file, the module dependencies will be satisfied
> accidentally.
Here's mine:
Section "Module"
Load"dbe"
Load"extmod"
Load"type1"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
EndSection
AFAIR that's none of the modules jingai has unresolved symbols from?
This part of the log is interesting:
(II) LoadModule: "r128"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
(II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 4.0.1
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
(II) LoadModule: "ati"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
(II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 6.2.3
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1
(II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.2.3) for chipsets: ati
(II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
It does in fact first load the r128 module and then the ati one.
Michel
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Re: mac-on-linux: any success yet?
Garry Roseman schrieb: > > >On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 02:22:11PM -0600, Phil Fraering wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone was trying to compile or put together a > >> package for mac-on-linux? The docs that came with the tarfile weren't > >> too clear on what extra libraries I need to get it to compile. > > > >i have compiled it and have it working in /usr/local, it took some > >hacking of the Makefile (stupid redhat == linux development model) and > >a patch to Rules.make to add -lelf otherwise it won't link. > > > >i can make a patch of my changes (against 0.53) available if anyone > >wants it. i know Dan was planning to package it but has been too busy > >and has not had a mac with a head on it to test with. > > I am going to be needing MOL on my systems before too long. I tried > compiling the source but ran into trouble. A deb binary or source > package would be real nice! Alienated RPMs have worked fine for me so far. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Compiling kernel 2.4.0
Charles Brunet wrote: > I just rsync the new 2.4.0 kernel. I was already using a 2.4.0-testsomething > kernel. make-kpkg kernel_image and I get the following compiling error: > > r128_cce.c: in function r128_cce_init_ring_buffer > r128_cce.c: 339: structure has no member named agp > > What is wrong? The r128 DRM currently only builds and works with agpgart. Just disable it for now. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: debian-ppc on pismo anyone?
Otto wrote: > so if anyone out there is happily using debian-ppc on their pismo, please > let me know! otherwise, if you had trouble getting it to run, please save me > some time and drop me a line, too. maybe I can even help you out..? I have been very happily running unstable/testing for more than six months now on this Pismo. > I used ybin/yaboot to set up my boot configuration (works great). right now, > I have the following partitions: > > 1 HFS bootstrap > 1 HFS+ MacOS 9.04 > 1 HFS+ MacOS X > 1 ext2 LinuxPPC > 1 swap > 1 HFS shared data > > for debian, I would like to convert the shared data partition to ext2 and > use my swap partition for both debian and LinuxPPC. > that way, I would only have to add an entry for debian in my yaboot conf - > right? I don't see a reason why that shouldn't work. > as the debian-ppc port is quite new, are there any known problems I should > know about? The powerpc port has matured very much in the past months (thanks to Dan and everybody!), there's no big difference to i386 anymore. But I'm sure I forget about some problems which may come up when installing. ;) Anyway, as your setup looks very safe against getting completely broken in the progress, you should always be able to ask back here if they should show up. Good luck and welcome to Debian, Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Enlightenment
Chris Bryan wrote: > > Alright, this is confusing... it seems I have Enlightenment installed, but I > can't invoke it w/ the command enlightenment. What am I doing wrong? You can't just invoke a window manager. You have to either configure GNOME or some config file (sorry I don't remember which - look in /etc/X11/) to use it. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Getting a mixed testing/unstable system.
Marshal Wong wrote: > I know some people have testing/unstable mixes, and I'm wondering how > you manage it. I'm not ready to put unstable into my sources.lists, > since if I do, lots of things breakdown due to conficts, etc. But > it's time consuming to download each and every package that you need > since you need to check for dependancies, etc. So what have people > done to manage this situation? If you don't want to go unstable, I advise to just keep with testing altogether. X4 (at least the client side) should get in there RSN, and it will drag hundreds of packages behind alost immediately. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: Powerbook still pops and clicks
Brendan J Simon wrote: > > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > >> Is esound known to be broken on powerpc ? > >> Is there a better sound daemon that is recommended for powerpc ? > > > > It's known to have caused _me_ endless troubles ;) It's possible that E > > is trying to output sound via esound, causing the clicks. Can you try > > removing esound and disabling E & gnome sound to see if it helps ? (At > > least, we would then know if esound is the culprit). > > I tried disabling gnome sound in the gnome control panel and it doesn't > seem to make any difference. I haven't rebooted my machine or restarted > my X server. I'll try that soon. You could try just killing the esd daemon. > I tried removing esound with "apt-get remove esound" and for some reason apt > wants to *remove everything*. This seems very wrong to me. What's going on > here gnome-bin depends on esound. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on new iBook
Christian Pernegger wrote: > Even though it says on penguinppc.org that the ati(r128) > driver from XFree 4.0.2 should work out-of-the-box, it > doesn't on my iBook FireWire. (I tried the debs in sid > and those from penguinppc.org.) > > But then maybe it isn't supposed to, for some reason? > Can someone give me appropriate pointers? A config > file, perhaps? Do you have Opion "UseFBDev" in Section "Device"? You need that. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Powerbook still pops and clicks
Brendan J Simon wrote: > > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > >> Is esound known to be broken on powerpc ? > >> Is there a better sound daemon that is recommended for powerpc ? > > > > It's known to have caused _me_ endless troubles ;) It's possible that E > > is trying to output sound via esound, causing the clicks. Can you try > > removing esound and disabling E & gnome sound to see if it helps ? (At > > least, we would then know if esound is the culprit). > > I disabled X and rebooted my machine. It still clicks and pops. How sure are you that the clicks and pops come from the speakers? My HD also makes some funny noise from time to time... :) Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on new iBook
Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Quoting Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Christian Pernegger wrote: > > > > > Even though it says on penguinppc.org that the ati(r128) > > > driver from XFree 4.0.2 should work out-of-the-box, it > > > doesn't on my iBook FireWire. (I tried the debs in sid > > > and those from penguinppc.org.) > > > > > > But then maybe it isn't supposed to, for some reason? > > > Can someone give me appropriate pointers? A config > > > file, perhaps? > > > > Do you have Opion "UseFBDev" in Section "Device"? You need that. > > How come ? Is this brokenness of XFree, or is it something that's to stay ? > On 4.0.1phase2v5 (the XFree I'm still using), it worked without it. It's an XFree86 bug. > Is XFree4 gonna make its way to potato ? or we'll have to wait for woody to > become stable ? Neither. Just use testing ;) Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X4.0 debs for powerpc
"W. Crowshaw" wrote: > > Are there any deb packages available of X4 for the powerpc? If so, > where are they. > > I have already checked > > deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ woody/powerpc > > using apt-get and they don't appear to be there? They're in unstable. If you want to get them from the archive directly, they're in the pool. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on new iBook
Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > Is XFree4 gonna make its way to potato ? or we'll have to wait for woody > > > to become stable ? > > > > Neither. Just use testing ;) > > No XF 4.02 in testing yet though, isn't it ? No (there are problems with the testing robot scripts which are being worked out). But you can grab the debs directly from the pool, it should install. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: modem works!, battery drains fast?
Michel Lanners wrote: > > On 1 Jan, this message from Michel Dänzer echoed through cyberspace: > > Any suggestions how I can find out what accesses my disk every few seconds > > and thus keeps me from powering it down? > > Replying late, and I didn't read all of the remaining messages in the > thread, but have a look at the battery-powered mini-howto: > > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Battery-Powered.html > > When I configured my laptop at work, tat was quite helpful. Looks very interesting indeed, thanks. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X starts, but it displays strange things
Charles Brunet wrote: > I was finally able to install XFree-4.0.2 on my indigo iBook. X starts, but > I'm not able to see anything, except the mouse cursor and a gray screen with > horizontals lines, slightly diagonals, as if the pixels sent to the screen > weren't the same depth as the screen itself. When I push the mouse button, I > see turquoise lines on the screen. > > I use the XF86Config file I found on hadess.net (merci Bastien). The r128 > driver is loaded. Resolution is 800x600. Everything in the log file seems ok > to me. I tried different screen depths without success. This is perfectly normal behaviour for an X server without any clients. How do you start it? What window manager or desktop environment would you like to use? Have you installed it? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X starts, but it displays strange things
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > When I use fbdev instead of ati, it works. But I have no video > > > acceleration... > > > > You have a r128 in your computer, so use the r128 driver, not the ati > > one... > > Someone said that in 4.0.2, the ati driver loads the r128 driver if > required so people should only use ati. For eariler versions r128 may > indeed be worth a try. Right. Moreover, some people have problems if they put "r128" for the Driver with 4.0.2 . > Regardless, discussion of X server issues is moot without having the > server log to look at. Damn right. And the XF86Config wouldn't hurt either. Even without that though, my guess is that either the server doesn't use 800x600 at all (because the horizontal or vertical frequency range in the Monitor Section doesn't allow for it) or a different one from console which is incompatible. The fbdev driver probably uses the default one. Michel (who actually doesn't like to speculate ;) -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X starts, but it displays strange things
Charles Brunet wrote: > SubSection "extmod" > Option"omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension > EndSubSection *Sigh* this doesn't seem to ever go away... This is an example for how one can disable single extensions in the extmod module. Most people want DGA though. > (II) R128(0): Using flat panel for display If it really does, that might be a problem. You can try Option "ProgramFPRegs" "off" But I don't expect that to be the problem. > And here is the output of fbset -x > > Mode "800x600" > # D: 40.000 MHz, H: 37.879 kHz, V: 60.317 Hz > DotClock 40.001 > HTimings 800 858 986 1056 > VTimings 600 601 605 628 > Flags"+HSync" "+VSync"# Warning: XFree86 doesn't support accel > > EndMode Can you try sticking this into the Monitor Section? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Help: Can't get XFree86 v4.0.2 to start
Donnell wrote: > After upgrading to XFree86 v4.0.2, X will not start. The screen > flashes 3 or 4 times then settles at the prompt. > > Pertinent hardware info is as follows: > > PowerComputing PowerBase 180 w/Sonnet G3/L2 upgrade > ATI Mach64 Video card (2MB RAM) > Panasonic PanaSync Pro P17 monitor [...] > (--) PCI: (0:17:0) ATI Mach64 GT rev 65, Mem @ 0x8100/24, > 0xf000/12, I/O @ 0x0400/8 [...] > (WW) ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 0:17:0 could not be detected! > (EE) No devices detected. It seems not to recognize your chip. I'm forwarding this to the ati driver maintainer. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Help: Can't get XFree86 v4.0.2 to start
Donnell wrote: > > Ok. I now have it working. After shuffling some options around and trying > the fbdev driver designation again, I was able to get v4.0.2 running, but > only at a bit depth of 8. I have a 2MB video card that can handle 16-bit > color at 1024x768 on the MacOS side. What am I missing that I can't get > 16-bit color using v4.0.2 as I did using v3.3.6? What's the problem with 16 bit? Have you tried both depth 16 and 15? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: rhetorical question regarding X...
Phil Fraering wrote: > > After reading the recent news regarding X11 on the new > Firewire Powerbooks, and that someone has gotten the > current X working on then (albeit using UseFBDev), Why 'albeit'? UseFBDev is a feature. In fact, we plan to replace it with a non-driver-specific solution which will have basically the same effect as making it on by default. > I feel I have to ask which I should be doing: using the > old version of xfree I have now, or updating to the new > one. It's your decision, but now you know that UseFBDev doesn't matter. :) > When the new one wasn't working with my system and the old > config file, I downgraded to the old one, and due to some > rearrangement of things in X, I had to use --force-overwrite. That's probably because packages are only supposed to be upgraded ;) > What's the best thing to do? Just stay with what I have, or get > back to the standard Unstable system? What about testing? Granted, there are problems getting X4 in, but I think it's a good compromise if you want to avoid the pitfalls of unstable. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Help desperately wanted setting up X server
Mark Webb wrote: > Machine: Motorola Starmax 3000/200 (603e Mac clone) > Video: Standard Mac on board plus FormacGA6 s3 (VIRGE) graphics PCI card > OS: dual boot Debian 2.2r2 with Mac OS 8.6 and BootX > > The install goes well with only only a few minor non-X related error > messages... > > AnXious during the installation process tells me I need and it will install > the s3v server. However after the reboot the machine is configured to use > the fbd generic server. I have tried installing X after the main install and > again anXious says it will install the s3v driver but again the fbd one is > actually installed in usr/X11R6/bin/ AFAIK only XF68_FBDev works on PPC. The other 3.3.x servers contains too many i386-isms. > Startx leads to a great many error being posted and X crashing. Seeing the actual output might help... > Any input would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go back to LinuxPPC! Who does? ;) Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: dist-upgrade
Olaf Grewe wrote: > up to now, I'm quite fine with stable, so my /etc/apt/sources.list reads > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib > non-free > deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free > > For various urges, I'd like to do a dist-upgrade to testing, but postings on > this list indicates, that testing is broken for powerpc. I didn't see any... have you tried it? > So I changed my sources.list to read > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org sid/updates main contrib non-free > > but then I got errors on accessing http://security.debian.org. > > Are there no security-updates jet available for sid, or is it just me, being > wrong? There are only security updates for stable. Packages with security holes in unstable are just replaced with new versions, which isn't possible in stable, hence it needs the security updates. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: pmud on iBook questions
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 07:03:45PM +0100, Christian Pernegger wrote: > > > > The 'fbset 0' command does nothing useful. > > > > > > That should be 'fblevel off', I think. Would make more sense. > > > > It's the same. > > Nope, it's not. fbset 0 does nothing useful. fblevel 0 would be equivalent > to fblevel off though. Should it? I just tried fblevel off; fblevel 10 and it remained black. Blindly typing fblevel 10 again didn't help. Only when I issued fblevel on did it come back. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: libdb breakage
Peter Meilstrup wrote: > > I have been unable to compile from sources any program which requires > libdb on my system (Woody). Since libdb is required by gnome, this is a > lot of programs. > > I have tried reinstalling libdb2, libdb2-dev, and libc6 all to no avail. > There is no libdb.so* anywhere on my system. Where can I get one? Have you tried building it yourself? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X11 or Diseable onboard Cirrus chip in Motorola Powerstack
Frank Weis wrote: > does anybody know how to disable the internal CLGD5434 in a > Motorola Powerstack 604? I'd love to run X on this machine but > kernels below 2.4 don't support the CL and kernel 2.4 has broken support for > the NCR-810 SCSI. Why would you have to disable it for running X? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: XFree86 3.3.6 config for pismo
Grant Miller wrote: > > Could someone with a pismo (PowerBook G3) send me their XF86Config for 3.3.6 > (not XFree 4)? I need the modlines and settings to get XFree to do 1024x768 > at 16 bit color (or 24 bit color). fbset -x The modelines are valid for all depths. 4.0.2 would be much faster and have more features though. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: XFree86 3.3.6 config for pismo
Grant Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:29:48PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Grant Miller wrote: > > > > > > Could someone with a pismo (PowerBook G3) send me their XF86Config for > > > 3.3.6 (not XFree 4)? I need the modlines and settings to get XFree to > > > do 1024x768 at 16 bit color (or 24 bit color). > > > > fbset -x > > > > The modelines are valid for all depths. > > Thanks! BTW you could also just specify mode "current" in the Display Subsection to make it use the mode from console. > I've tried to get 4.0.2 working, but I've been fighting that for a week (or > more). I'll survive with 3.3.6 until 4 is more mature on the PowerPC > platform. Have you tried either Option "UseFBDev" or Option "ProgramFPRegs" "No"? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: XFree86 3.3.6 config for pismo
Grant Miller wrote: > > > > > > I've tried to get 4.0.2 working, but I've been fighting that for a week > > > (or more). I'll survive with 3.3.6 until 4 is more mature on the > > > PowerPC platform. > > > > Have you tried either Option "UseFBDev" or Option "ProgramFPRegs" "No"? > > I've used the Option "UseFBDev" without any luck. Please post the relevant parts of XF86Config and describe what happens. Are you running aty128fb in console? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Stefan Kluth wrote: > I have potato 2.2r2 with kernel 2.2.18pre21 on a 500MHz G4 with an ATI > Rage 128 Pro AGP 4x and it works fine on the console. I boot with > video=ofonly. X doesn't work though, and from following this list that > might be expected. X (as XF68FBDev) does get started by xdm, the screen > turns white 3 times and then X gives up. Is the ATI Rage 128 Pro just not > supported? If there is hope within potato and XF3 I will provide the logs > for debugging. It may work if you use "current" as mode and depth 8 in XF86Config. Otherwise, you'll have to use aty128fb instead of video=ofonly. > Will I have to go to XF4? Maybe not, but you'll _want_ to ;) > I am not really willing to go all the way to unstable, so I reckon I have > either find XF4 .debs for potato (I tried to search, but no luck) or to get > the sources and compile. If so, is there a recipie somewhere which guides me > through getting and compiling the deb-sources? It should build out of the box with dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot, otherwise ask on the debian-x list. Another option would be to upgrade to testing and either wait for X4 to get there or install it manually. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Stefan Kluth wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > Stefan Kluth wrote: > > > > > I have potato 2.2r2 with kernel 2.2.18pre21 on a 500MHz G4 with an ATI > > > Rage 128 Pro AGP 4x and it works fine on the console. I boot with > > > video=ofonly. X doesn't work though, and from following this list that > > > might be expected. X (as XF68FBDev) does get started by xdm, the screen > > > turns white 3 times and then X gives up. Is the ATI Rage 128 Pro just > > > not supported? If there is hope within potato and XF3 I will provide the > > > logs for debugging. > > > > It may work if you use "current" as mode and depth 8 in XF86Config. > > Otherwise, you'll have to use aty128fb instead of video=ofonly. > I'll try that tommorrow. Er, ahem, I vaguely remember that there is some > dark art involved in the syntax of the kernel argument, passing the depth > and other things, no? append="video=aty128fb:" works for me with yaboot. > > > I am not really willing to go all the way to unstable, so I reckon I > > > have either find XF4 .debs for potato (I tried to search, but no luck) > > > or to get the sources and compile. If so, is there a recipie somewhere > > > which guides me through getting and compiling the deb-sources? > > > > It should build out of the box with dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot, > > otherwise ask on the debian-x list. > But which package, X in debian has quite a few (ok I am bit dumb, I just > don't know X very well) All the basic X packages are built from the xfree86 source package. > > Another option would be to upgrade to testing and either wait for X4 to > > get there or install it manually. > I considered that, but found that XF4 wasn't there ... Where did you look? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X11 or Diseable onboard Cirrus chip in Motorola Powerstack
Frank Weis wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 January 2001 12:34, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Frank Weis wrote: > > > does anybody know how to disable the internal CLGD5434 in a > > > Motorola Powerstack 604? I'd love to run X on this machine but > > > kernels below 2.4 don't support the CL and kernel 2.4 has broken support > > > for the NCR-810 SCSI. > > > > Why would you have to disable it for running X? > Well, I can't get it to work with X, and I would like to put in another > graphics adapter. I have tried it, but I didn't get any signal on the > additional adapter, so I fugure I have to disable the one on-board... What is the other adapter? Does it have a BIOS or an OF ROM? What exactly have you tried? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: libdb breakage
Peter Meilstrup wrote: > However I still cannot compile a program that does -ldb. I get the error > "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb". -ldb expands to libdb.so . That is in libdb2-dev, which isn't in testing yet. Either install it manually or make a symlink to libdb.so.[23] as a workaround. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Stefan Kluth wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > append="video=aty128fb:" works for me with yaboot. > But not for me (sob). I put in my yaboot.conf > > image=/vmlinux > label=debian-aty > root=/dev/hda10 > read-only > partition=10 > append="video=aty128fb:mode:1024x768-60" > > with and without the "mode:1024x768-60" string. In both cases boot is > ok, but the screen turns blank. AFAIK mode:1024x768-60 only works on other platforms, Macs use something like vmode:x . I don't know what would be a suited mode for you, can someone else please help? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: [linux-fbdev] Matrox and XFree86 4.0.2 update
Kostas Gewrgiou wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Kostas Gewrgiou wrote:
>
> > > Changing the endian to little is the *right* thing, big-endian mode
> > > doesn't offer us anything beyond problems in matroxfb 8/16 bit accesses
> > > become a nightmare there...
> >
> > 8/16 bit accesses? I assume you're talking about the frame buffer, not
> > about the register accesses?
>
> No i am talking about register accesses, for example
> the mga driver in xfree86 uses
> #define MGAISBUSY() (INREG8(MGAREG_Status + 2) & 0x01)
> SDL uses
> #define mga_wait(space) { \
> while ( mga_in8(MGAREG_FIFOSTATUS) < space ); \
> }
>
> Both will fail under big-endian mode in PPC, the addressing is changed
> so you have to use something like *(addr + (3-addr%4) to get the right
> byte (i hope i got it right, its still early here)
What about adapting the macros then?
Michel
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CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: me too (X4.0.2 on iBook Firewire)
Bastien Nocera wrote: > I also upgraded my iBook Firewire to sid, and I have the same pb as Michael > Hope and Christian Pernegger. > Pitch is also reported as 832. I tried disabling Acceleration, changing > colour depths, "ati" and "r128" as the name of the driver. Using the fbdev > driver works though. Have you tried Option "ProgramFPRegs" "No" instead of UseFBDev? > Could it be that the old ati driver (for mach64 cards) wants a pitch > multiple of 64 to use the acceleration, and it's leaked to the r128 driver ? > I mean that the r128 part of the driver is using a way of calculating the > pitch that is different from what it was before. Very unlikely. The r128 part is basically the same as the old r128 driver. It does all device dependent stuff. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X11 or Diseable onboard Cirrus chip in Motorola Powerstack
Frank Weis wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 January 2001 19:43, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Frank Weis wrote: > > > On Wednesday 24 January 2001 12:34, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > Frank Weis wrote: > > > > > does anybody know how to disable the internal CLGD5434 in a > > > > > Motorola Powerstack 604? I'd love to run X on this machine but > > > > > kernels below 2.4 don't support the CL and kernel 2.4 has broken > > > > > support for the NCR-810 SCSI. > > > > > > > > Why would you have to disable it for running X? > > > > > > Well, I can't get it to work with X, and I would like to put in another > > > graphics adapter. I have tried it, but I didn't get any signal on the > > > additional adapter, so I fugure I have to disable the one on-board... > > > > What is the other adapter? Does it have a BIOS or an OF ROM? What exactly > > have you tried? > I have tried to put an old Elsa ISA adapter in (Elsa Gemini 10-138), but > when I attach a screen to it, it stays black, and the onboard adapter works! > I tried this because someone suggested that the onboard adapter would > disable automatically when another one is present. I still have an Elsa > Winner PCI board at home, but I haven't tried it out yet. I suggest you do, it's more likely to work. I don't know about the PowerStack, but at least on Macs legacy stuff doesn't work. > I don't know if they have an OF ROM (what is an OF ROM), It's similar to a BIOS. Open Firmware uses it to initialize a card. Anyway, I'd be surprised if an ISA card had an OF ROM... Neither does the PCI card probably, so you might have to use the right framebuffer device to use it. What graphics chip is on it? > but I know that they are fine when they are _alone_ in a PC. The PC will use the BIOS on the card to initialize it. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: me too (X4.0.2 on iBook Firewire)
Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Quoting Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > I also upgraded my iBook Firewire to sid, and I have the same pb as > > > Michael Hope and Christian Pernegger. > > > Pitch is also reported as 832. I tried disabling Acceleration, > > > changing colour depths, "ati" and "r128" as the name of the driver. > > > Using the fbdev driver works though. > > > > Have you tried Option "ProgramFPRegs" "No" instead of UseFBDev? > > You're the boss ! Works fine, except it's flickering quite a bit at 24bpp > (not so much at 16bpp though). You wouldn't happen to know the magic option > :P My Pismo also flickers at 60 Hz (also in MacOS), AFAIR 70 Hz was better, but I thought 60 Hz was the best for TFT... Now I just wonder why it doesn't work with UseFBDev, a driver bug I guess. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: can't compile 2.2.18pre21
Stefan Kluth wrote: > cc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.18pre21/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing > -D__powerpc__ -fsigned-char -msoft-float -pipe -fno-builtin -ffixed-r2 > -Wno-uninitialized -mmultiple -mstring -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.18pre21/include/linux/modversions.h -c -o > init.o init.c > In file included from init.c:33: > drmP.h: In function `__cmpxchg': > drmP.h:145: `LOCK_PREFIX' undeclared (first use in this function) > drmP.h:145: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > drmP.h:145: for each function it appears in.) > drmP.h:145: parse error before string constant > drmP.h:151: parse error before string constant > drmP.h:157: parse error before string constant Disable DRM. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: me too (X4.0.2 on iBook Firewire)
Michael Hope wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > I also upgraded my iBook Firewire to sid, and I have the same pb as > > > Michael Hope and Christian Pernegger. > > > Pitch is also reported as 832. I tried disabling Acceleration, changing > > > colour depths, "ati" and "r128" as the name of the driver. Using the > > > fbdev driver works though. > > > > Have you tried Option "ProgramFPRegs" "No" instead of UseFBDev? > > I tried it a few days ago. No change, except for the server printing a > big size warning about blowing up your flat panel :) Strange, it worked for Bastien - did you really disable UseFBDev? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: gnumeric won't run after stable->testing upgrade
Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I was running stable, with helix gnome installed from idorulabs, and > updated to testing. Now, gnumeric fails to run with the following error: > > error while loading shared libraries: libole2.so.0: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > > Any hints? The library has been renamed to libgnomeole2.so.0 . I made a symlink. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: more xfree 4.0.2, iMac DV doesn't work
Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > Just seen that the r128 in my iMac wasn't detected by the ati driver. > > I've even tried putting the IOBase and MemBase in the XF86Config, to no > > avail. > > The ATI 128 Pro PR (AGP) isn't listed as a supported card. > > > > I attached my XF86Config-4, the XFree86 log and the output lspci -vv > > > > Any ideas ? > > used puetz's version from penguinppc, works now. Must me some patch > that's not gone through or something. Yes, indeed - a lot of people asked about Rage128 PR support on the Xpert list. Kevin: please send me the patch so I can submit it for inclusion in XFree86. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Why there is no mol package?
Charles Brunet wrote: > I wonder why there is no mol package in debian? Is there somewhere I could > find it? If not, where could I find how to build a deb package from the > source? I use an alienated RPM. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: starting x
Chris Bryan wrote: > > Using the gnome modem configurations, what init string should I use for the > standard internal modem shipped with g4's? Sorry to bother everyone, but I'm > not sure how to figure out what it is on my own, and I figured someone could > tell me without too much trouble :) Thanks! ATZ works on my Pismo. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Woody on a G4 cube?
Jeremy Radlow wrote: > > Does anyone have real world experience with Debian on a G4 cube? I don't but... > I would be using a 450 MHz G4 cube as a server. I'd like to know whether > it can function as a server (e.g. does networking work), I assume the Cube has the same network hardware as the other G4s so I don't see why it shouldn't work. > and if the platform is stable. It is in my experience. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Volume control [was Re: RealPlayer]
Paul Talacko wrote: > However, I can't adjust the volume on the in-built speaker. This is not > only a problem with real player, but also with xmms and the external volume\ > control on the front of the machine. > > Am I doing something wrong? You need a mixer which allows to control the speaker volume. I use the GKrellM volume plugin or gmix for that. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Stefan Kluth wrote: > thanks a lot for that, X works now. I couldn't get any of the modelines in > XF86Config to work though and had to use > > ... > > Section "Screen" > Driver "FBDev" > Device "Linux Frame Buffer Device" > Monitor "LCD Panel" > DefaultColorDepth 8 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 32 > Modes "default" > EndSubSection > EndSection This looks a bit inconsistent; you want to use 8 bit (?), but only have a Display Subsection for 32... > The Xserver seems to be rather slow. Is that expected? Yes, it's unaccelerated. X 4.x (hint: it's in testing now! :) has a well accelerated driver. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Stefan Kluth wrote: > > > The Xserver seems to be rather slow. Is that expected? > > > > Yes, it's unaccelerated. X 4.x (hint: it's in testing now! :) has a well > > accelerated driver. > That leads me back to the question for to the name of the debian package > to give to apt-get source --compile to get X4 compiled. I seem to be > unable to find that by myself. I already told you the name is 'xfree86' ;) Anyway, why don't you upgrade to testing? It has X4 now. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Help needed for X 4.0.2 & pismo
Joongul Lee wrote: > I have attached the /var/log/XFree86.0.log below. Make sure you have the line BusID "PCI:0:16:0" in Section "Device" of the XF86Config. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: upgrade stable -> unstabl e doesn´twork
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:00:12PM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > > So X402 will be in woody sometime soon (perhaps the next version) ? > > > > > I was told that no. > > > > > > > > It should be as soon as m68k will build the package, don't know what > > > > the problem is, maybe there are build problems on m68k, or maybe it > > > > takes just time. BTW this topic is outdated; Anthony announced yesterday that X4 is in testing now. > > >From what I hear, the module loader needs some m68k fixes. > > > > But that is upstream work, not debian ? isn't it ? > > > > What about making a static server binary in the meantime ? Christian tried to build a static server, but it didn't work for some reason. > > (Including only the driver that make sense on m68k naturally ...) > > Alternatively: would it be possible to hack a quick layer between the > XFree86 module loader system and the standard dl* system we already have? > > XFRee86 mainly wrote their own system to work around bugs in dl* systems on > non-Linux OSses, which is something we don't have to care about. That's not the whole truth. The XFree86 module loader allows for platform independence. Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Sven LUTHER wrote: > > Anyway, why don't you upgrade to testing? It has X4 now. > > Does it ? > > i didn't see it there yet, just checked, but then i may have missed it ? It's in testing on ftp-master. Wait for your mirror to catch up. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X on G4 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and LCD Panel
Stefan Kluth wrote: > apt-get source --compile xserver-xfree86 > > which seems to be the right thing. Now I find out which tools X needs to > build, like bison, flex etc. Unfortunately, I haven't yet found a way to > restart the build where it left off after a make error, I always restart > from square one by doing the apt-get ... command again. I am sure that > there is a better way of doing this ... I tried to go to > xfree86-4.0.2/build-tree/xc and doing "make" there but that wouldn't cut > it. At least the 500 MHz G4 is fast. Try dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot . It will still build from the beginning, but at least leave out the unpacking of the source. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: upgrade stable -> unstabl e doesn´twork
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:00:12PM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > > > > So X402 will be in woody sometime soon (perhaps the next > > > > > > > version) ? I was told that no. > > > > > > > > > > > > It should be as soon as m68k will build the package, don't know > > > > > > what the problem is, maybe there are build problems on m68k, or > > > > > > maybe it takes just time. > > > > BTW this topic is outdated; Anthony announced yesterday that X4 is in > > testing now. > > Aha? How come it works now? X4 is getting a special treatment... > > > Alternatively: would it be possible to hack a quick layer between the > > > XFree86 module loader system and the standard dl* system we already > > > have? I forgot to mention that the modules can actually be built for dl* style. But it's not recommended. > > > XFRee86 mainly wrote their own system to work around bugs in dl* systems > > > on non-Linux OSses, which is something we don't have to care about. > > > > That's not the whole truth. The XFree86 module loader allows for platform > > independence. > > That's the reasoning behind the modular system. But not the whole reasoning > behing the let's-write-our-own-loader system. It isn't? :) It is for all I know, because the OS specific APIs are hidden behind well-defined, OS neutral XFree86 APIs. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: compiling XF4 on potato?
Stefan Kluth wrote: > > Hi, > > I got some way through compiling XF4, but I now I have hit a wall. I get > > ... > > gcc -c -O2 -g -fsigned-char -I/usr/include/freetype2 > -I../.. -I../../exports/include -Dlinux -D__powerpc__ > -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE > -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE-DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DXTHREADS > -D_REENTRANT -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API > -DXFT_DEFAULT_PATH=\"/etc/X11/XftConfig\" -DFREETYPE2 xftcfg.c > In file included from xftint.h:30, > from xftcfg.c:28: > XftFreetype.h:34: parse error before `_XftFTlibrary' > XftFreetype.h:34: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > XftFreetype.h:37: parse error before `FT_Face' > XftFreetype.h:37: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union > XftFreetype.h:53: parse error before `}' > > ... > > I installed freetype2-dev to get the freetype headers in the first > place. I also noticed that in the command above we have > "-I/usr/include/freetype2" while the include files for freetype are in > "/usr/include/freetype" (notice the missing "2"). Making a symlink from > freetype to freetype2 didn't help though. > > I live on a 500MHz G4 with a clean Debian potato install and working XF3. > > Any ideas? Either ask on the debian-x list or upgrade to testing. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Help needed for X 4.0.2 & pismo
Joongul Lee wrote: > > Thanks! After adding that line, I don't get an error message anymore. But, > the pismo ends up with a funky colored screen and I can't get out of it, > even with ctrl-alt-del and rebooting with ctrl-cmd-power seems to be the > only option. Any idea how to fix it? Add at least one of these lines to the Device Section: Option "UseFBDev" Option "ProgramFPRegs" "No" As already mentioned n+1 times on this list... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: new xfree packages
Peter Meilstrup wrote: > > Do the new XFree 4.0.2 packages include the Mach64 driver? Yes, it's called "ati". > Can I safely upgrade my Powerbook (Wallstreet)? That I doubt. Check out this list's archives to get an idea of what's involved in getting X4 running on a Wallstreet or Lombard. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Bug#83434: "apt-get install gnome-panel" complains about broken packages
Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > First of all can you post with lines < 80 characters ? > > I'm sorry, I use Netscape Mail, which has a habit of making the lines way > too long sometimes. I'll convert as soon as soon as there is something > better (maybe when mozilla or evolution become usable). I also use Netscape Messenger, but I have it wrap lines at 78 characters, it works reliably. Set it up in the Messages dialog in the Mail & Newsgroups preferences. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Newbie Install Question on Umax S900
Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Starting internet superserver: inetd. > > /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: No such file or directory > > /bin/sh: exec: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: No such file or directory > > termwrap? Never seen it before. In fact, no file with "termwrap" anywhere > in it appears in potato, woody or unstable. > > What CD is this that you got from cheapbytes? Are you sure it's Debian, > version 2.2R2? Another person reported a similar problem on the APUS user list. For him, termwrap was in inittab and he got 'respawning too fast' errors. I wonder what that termwrap thingie is all about... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: 2.4 and airport
Olaf Grewe wrote: > from looking at the various pages on airport/wavelan, I got that there > have been only few problems lately, so none was updated. > I'd like to change to 2.4 but would hate to loose my airport connection. > Could anyone provide me with helpful comments for building my own kernel > w/ airport support? I currently use 2.2.17preXX on a PowerBook Firewire. Paulus' kernel has an airport driver. rsync -arvz penguinppc.org::linux-2.4-paulus -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Bug#83434: "apt-get install gnome-panel" complains about broken packages
Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > I also use Netscape Messenger, but I have it wrap lines at 78 characters, > > it works reliably. Set it up in the Messages dialog in the Mail & > > Newsgroups preferences. > > But I already have it set to 72. Just changed it to 78, maybe 72 is a > default which it gleefully ignores at its own whim... Dunno - right after posting my remark, I realized that I didn't tell the whole story. My .sig is 78 characters wide, and I always adjust the compose windows to that width (it remembers the size and keeps it, so it's no effort). This way it wraps the lines 100% reliably. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
multiple smarthosts with exim
Has anyone managed to have exim try to forward messages to more than one smarthost? I've tried several things like multiple smarthost: entries, giving several hostnames seperated by colons in one entry, etc. No luck so far. It just tries the first one and freezes the message if it fails. PS: I'm not subscribed to -user . -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: should I get potato or woody?
Otto wrote: > I'm looking into installing debian-ppc on my pismo, but don't know which > version to get, potato or woody. > > someone on this list mentioned that potato doesn't support the 2.4.x > kernels, so I guess I would be better off with woody (I want 2.4.x for USB > and firewire support). is that correct? Most stuff in potato should work fine with 2.4 kernels. The biggest exception is probably modutils (2.4 kernels need a more recent version than is in potato), because it's tied to the kernel very directly. But you can always build the latest modutils yourself for potato, the same goes for virtually any other package. > and then, how do I get woody anyway? I've been looking around > cdimage.debian.org but it seems I can only get potato that way. do I have to > install potato first and then upgrade to woody? Yes, there are only (official) CD images for released versions. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X86Config for FW iBook (no frame buffer)
"andrei.verovski" wrote: > If someone managed to get X to work in true accelerated mode (not frame > buffer) on the FireWire iBook (Summer 2000 model), please share wise > experience. This has been discussed here before, anyway: Use Option "ProgramFPRegs" "no" instead of UseFBDev. The fbdev support seems to be broken somehow. If you still want to use it for some reason, change the vertical and horizontal refresh regions in the Monitor section such that it rejects all modes and uses the one from console. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Installation permissions
N Cohen wrote: > > I have installed debian v.r2.2 OK on my 8600 on a number of occasions > when XF86Config worked OK but now after I install when I attempt to > use XF86Config I get permission denied. If I add chmod g+rx or 0755 > then the file will not execute but simply shows as a text file. And that's what it is. You have to edit it with an editor. Do you confuse XF86Config with xf86config? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: new package to enable mouse button emulation
Eric Dorland wrote: > > Hmm, the subject kinda of says it all. I wrote a init script and > debconf scripts to enable 3 mouse button emulation for the newer kernels > with input layer support. It took me a while to figure out how to do > this when i install debian on my G3, and this package would save people > the trouble i went through. > > It still needs a little cleaning up, and i need someone to sponsor it, > since I'm still waiting for DAM approval. Also, its currently called > powerpc-mouse, which i think is a pretty bad name. Maybe apple-mice? > What does everyone think? Maybe it would make more sense to add this to an existing package like pmac-utils? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: potato + X on iMac Rev A
Ross Hamilton wrote: > > I am in process of putting Debian 2.2 onto a Rev A iMac and am > becoming increasingly confused over its X configuration. > > Can anyone contribute frequencies for the built-in monitor on this > machine? The claimed vertical refresh is a little higher than I am > used to entering and scouring apple.com I can find no suggested hsync > values or range. Suggestions, pointers or clues from a working > XF86Config file for this box would be very helpful. Where are > SuperProbe, VGA and XF86Setup when you need them? :-) > > What is the correct x-server for this beast, anyway? I installed the > one for the Frame Buffer device, which seemed to be the only likely > option listed in dselect and concurred with something I think I read > on penguinppc.org. So far no joy - I begin to have doubts about my > selection. Running xviddetect suggests mach64, but that doesn't seem > to be available for potato on this platform. I suspect it might be > there in woody - can anyone confirm or deny? The FBDev server is the only XFree86 3.3 server working on PPC. It should theoretically work with your hardware, maybe even provide some acceleration. woody has X4 which has a well accelerated driver for mach64, but PPC support isn't well integrated in that driver yet so you may have to get a patched driver binary or build yourself with patches applied. > Since this is all happening across a 56k dial-up connection, I wonder > if I might be better to switch to woody now, before installing much > more. That way I could avoid a major upgrade later as well as any > possible problems with hybrid system in the meantime. From talk here > it looks like I might want to go with a 2.4 kernel soon for USB mass > storage support, since there is an LS120 drive on the bus. > So how stable is the testing dist right now? Are there any other > benefits or pitfalls I should know about with running woody for ppc > on this machine? testing (woody) should always be mostly stable because only packages without too many serious bugs get in there. Even unstable has been usable for me for the last two years, but of course the definition for 'usable' is different for everyone. ;) -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: SMP G4 and 22" Apple Cinema Display
T E Whalen wrote: Let me add a few comments... > SubSection "extmod" > Option "omit xfree86-dga" > EndSubSection This is an example for how one can disable certain extensions from the extmod module and often causes questions like "why doesn't XFree86 4.0.x support DGA?" ;) > Option "ShadowFB" This would disable acceleration if it was supported by the r128 driver. > SubSection "Display" > Depth 32 > Modes "800x600" > EndSubSection Depth 32 isn't currently available in X4. 32 bpp is the default with depth 24 for most drivers. I hope this isn't just confusing *grin* Thanks for sharing your experience. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: LS-120 drive
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > most of the time. And just fine on my Lombard all of the time. That's > > > with a 250MB Zip drive on the bus and nothing else, and building the > > > uhci or usb-uhci drivers as modules instead of builtin seemed to help a > > > lot with stablity for some reason. > > > > interesting, in my case the device is a digital camera that shows up > > as a mass storage device. under 2.2 kernels the kernel recognizes the > > device but never allocates a node to it, under 2.4 it works the same > > except the device is allocated /dev/sda. i messed with it for a very > > So does a camera really qualify as a mass storage device then? Some do, I was also amazed by that. And it makes a lot of sense too, you can just copy the files to and from. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: LS-120 drive
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > So does a camera really qualify as a mass storage device then? > > > > Some do, I was also amazed by that. And it makes a lot of sense too, you > > can just copy the files to and from. > > Granted. So we can use digital cameras as portable storage - where's the > camfs ? :) But I wonder if that's even necessary? When setting up a Sony cam for my gf's father, I just had to install the standard Windoze USB mass storage drivers and it worked - does this imply the cam uses FAT? Or some kind of generic USB FS? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: LS-120 drive
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > Granted. So we can use digital cameras as portable storage - where's the > > > camfs ? > > > > :) > > > > But I wonder if that's even necessary? When setting up a Sony cam for my > > gf's father, I just had to install the standard Windoze USB mass storage > > drivers and it worked - does this imply the cam uses FAT? Or some kind of > > generic USB FS? > > FAT, as the dumbest common denominator for sure. But I was thinking 'store > regular data on the camera instead of a zip' :-) I think that shouldn't be a problem with the cam I saw. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X server crash
Andrei Verovski wrote: > I succesfully installed Debian on FireWire iBook, but got x server crash > after command startx: > > fatal server error: > Cannot open mouse (No such device) > > A connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) > > I have edited X86 Config and changed path from dev/mouse to dev/usbmouse, > but the result was the same. Have you tried /dev/input/mice and protocol "ImPS/2" ? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X Starts, Gnome not
Andrei Verovski wrote: > Now I have default window manager running, but nothing else. How to tell > Gnome start automatically? Also, some kind of GUI login would be nice. apt-get install gdm -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X Starts, Gnome not
Andrei Verovski wrote: > >> Now I have default window manager running, but nothing else. How to tell > >> Gnome start automatically? Also, some kind of GUI login would be nice. > > > >apt-get install gdm > > Michel, it works ! Great! :) > I am only wondering why Gnome have not been installed by default, I have > selected it in installer... It was probably installed before but not set up right to get started with startx. gdm is not installed with the task-gnome-desktop package. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: DHCP client in unstable?
Peter Canning wrote: > > So what is the current solution for configuring the networking of a PowerMac > running debian/unstable (kernel version 2.2.17) from a DHCP server? > > I used to use (actually still do) dhcpcd (1.3.17p12-8), but that seems to > have been removed (dselect says it is obsolete). I asked the maintainer and he says he removed it on advise from the security team because even the latest upstream version had too many bugs and holes. :( -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Pismo, external video
Marc Segelken wrote: > My problem is to get the external video port running under linux > (2.2.17pre20-ben2 on Pismo). I found some hints in previous mails on > this list, saying that the kernel options >video=map:1 or video=map:10 > are redirecting the output to fb1, which I assume to be the external > video port. No it's not. aty128fb doesn't support the external display yet. > Can anybody tell me, what I have to do to use external monitors on my > Pismo under linux (and which is the minimum kernel version for this)? The kernel shouldn't matter. The only way I can think of is to get the XFree86 4.0.2 source, enable the "CRTOnly" option in r128_driver.c, build and use that. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Troubles upgrading from 200 MHz P2 to 400 MHz G3...
Tovar wrote: >* What kernel and/or what driver runs the ix3D properly (if any)? What graphics chip does it have? If you don't know, please post the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Fatal Server Error: No Valid Modes Found
Joe Paxton wrote: > > When passing command 'startx', receive following error message: > Fatal Server Error: No Valid Modes Found [...] > (--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted. [...] > HorizSync 30-70 ^^ Either put a higher value here (only if your monitor supports it! You have been warned) or put other modes in the Display Subsection. If everything fails, put "default" as a mode there. That will make it use the mode from console. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: The solution to Mach64 problems on Lombard
Sergio Brandano wrote: > > I am posting the solution to the above problem, in the hope that the > package maintainers will actually see this mail and will update the binary > trees overnight. Dream on. It's not Branden's fault that Ani can't seem to get the modifications in his tree integrated into XFree86. Dan even tried to integrate them into the Debian packages a few months ago but gave up as they broke with every new version. It's a pain that nobody can be expected to bear. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: DHCP client in unstable?
Peter Canning wrote: > > As I mentioned in my original message, I've tried pump (0.7.3-2) on my > PowerMac running debian unstable (kernel version 2.2.17), but was unable to > get it to work. The deb appeared to install and configure fine, but after a > reboot, I can't ping anything except myself (not even the DHCP server). It > appears that packets are going out onto the network just fine (my router > blinks a light indicating packets are coming from the PowerMac, and I assume > its sending packages back, but ping indicates that it never gets anything. > From what I can gather from ifconfig and route, pump has configured the > eth0 interface and routing table exactly the same as my static IP setup did. It's very strange that it doesn't work then. > Do I need to do some special configuration of pump? Maybe - I did, but a friend of mine apparently didn't. > Can anybody using pump tell me how they have it configured? /etc/pump.conf: retries 3 /etc/default/pump IFACES="eth0 airport" PS: You could try building the current pump yourself, or get it here: http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/pump_0.8.3-1_powerpc.deb -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: FTE problems on console of Pmac g3 beige
Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I get colorful gibberish instead of a working fte window. > > Is there any way to fix this? It has an ATI Mach64. Please share a bit of needed information (fbset -i should give most). -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: X 4.0.2 issues...
Ani Joshi wrote: > > Wrong, its not that I "can't" seem to get the modifications in the tree, > its because I haven't even submitted them yet. I'm waiting for feedback > from some users before I do that, and that will only happen before the > next release. Have you discussed your approach of forking and then submitting one big patch before release with the core XFree86 developers? Let's just hope it will work better than with the Linux kernel... > The patches will get in at the appropriate time. May I ask why it didn't work for 4.0.2? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: PMUD
Sergio Brandano wrote: > I have the same computer, No, you don't: > > My Powerbook G3 / 400 is detected as Type 12 : Ibook. ^^^ Michael has a Pismo. Sleep isn't supported for those by the kernel yet. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: Debian Potato on G4/AGP
Jonathan Wight wrote: > > On 02/20/2001 23:39, "Jonathan Wight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I had Debian Potato (downloaded the ISOs) up and running quite lovely on a > > Powerbook G3/Firewire and have now managed to get a spare G4/AGP to run as > > a dedicated Linux server. Unfortunately I can't get the darned thing to > > boot up from my Debian CD... > > > > I've tried booting from CD with the mouse and without the mouse and > > nothing seems to change. The only thing notable with this G4 is the extra > > ATI Rage-128 video card in it - but I see the boot process is picking both > > video cards up quite fine. > > Damn. Forget that. Removing the 2nd ATI card fixed it. Should have tried > that before shooting off the email. My apologies. That's strange though - have you tried a 2.4 kernel with both cards? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: getting kernel 2.4.2-pre3 to work
Cort Dougan wrote: > > } but for 2.4 i imagine paulus tree is best. the bk tree is bleeding > > Quite the opposite. The 2.4 and 2.2 BK kernels are quite stable. The > kernels that Paul keeps around (accessible via rsync) are experiments that > Paul doesn't push up to the BK tree, I believe. So I've been running an experiment for some time now... might explain some oddities like ldconfig sporadically dying with an illegal instruction. :) If only the airport driver and/or Iain's dmasound driver were in the bk tree, and rsync would work again... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: netscape ??
Eric Deveaud wrote: > i'm just finishing to install the powerbook (pismo) of my boss. > > she want's to be abble to use netscape. > > when I apt-get install netscape (or communicator or wathever) > I get the following error > Sorry the following packages have unmet dependencies: > netscape: Depends: communicator but it is not going to be installed or > navigator but it is not going to be installed > E: Sorry, broken packages > > but when loocking at the 2 mirror I use (either > ftp.fr.debian.org or ftp.pasteur.fr ) > > I see on the non-free/binary-powerpc/web/ > the netscape 4.6 and 4.7 packages. communicator packages are also here. > > how could I install netscape. apt-cache search communicator-smotif will probably yield communicator-smotif-46 for potato and communicator-smotif-47 for testing/unstable . -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: mutt problems sending email
Taro Fukunaga wrote: > > I am using Potato 2.2r2 and am having problems sending email with mutt. Has > anyone experienced this? It seems that I can send email directly to myself, > but other emails fail Sounds like you didn't set up your MTA (exim?) correctly. It can deliver mail locally but not to the Internet. > (there is no error message, the recipients just never receive it). mailq shows nothing either? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
Re: mouse/SSL-browser/console fonts/beeping
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 3 - Is it possible to find console fonts larger than 8x16? I find SUN12x22 nice for big resolutions, but I prefer an 8x16 font on my Pismo. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
