Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#592170: please add debconf delegates to intro/organisation
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 07:08:45AM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > There was not a need of people speaking as this year's localteam as such, > rather people involved in this year organization speaking about their > experiences together with people from previous years. > Personally, I saw this BoF was about DebConf in general and they way it has > worked in the last few years. The pseudofork did not happen this year, it has > been a problem that has been growing since some time ago and it has showed > itself badly this year due to the financial situation. For me the BoF > was about more issues than who decides about the money. > I tried to get the minutes during the BoF. They just need some editing and > I will send them to the list. And don't forget, there is a video[0] available so you can directly see what was discussed. I think money was discussed because it was an *example* of issues, and not as much because it was a concern as much. It was focused on because it was part of the issue, but zack did a good job of bringing people back to the questions at hand. (I still want to read the minutes, too.) [0] http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/658.en.html -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] debconf10 is _11th_ debian conference
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 07:57:14PM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > -=| Alexander Reichle-Schmehl, Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:38:42PM +0200 |=- > > So plenty of time to review, comment, and change. > The result, however, is still wrong. Can we fix it? Or at least the > parts that are fixable (the website)? Am I reading this right? We're refusing to fix a bug that is WRONG in a Debian-related medium because people supposedly proof-read it and said it was fine? Seriously? 1) This debate is completely unproductive. The information that went out was incorrect. It can be fixed. Newspapers do this all the time when they print incorrect information - and it's my understanding people proof and approve information that's printed as well. 2) If you are unable to make the change, find someone who can and /do/ it. There is no reason to have wrong information available without a correction *somewhere* to show that yes, it was an oversight, and yes, we can correct our mistakes. If it's a matter of simply not having time to remove one word, please, give me aceess and I'd be happy to do it for you. <3 Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process
And now that I've reemerged from under my rock, I have one concern that I would like to provide before any delegations are made to this: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:05:40AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 03:19:21PM +, Moray Allan wrote: > > While much of this proposal should be uncontroversial, I would > > definitely like to see some comments on the delegation aspect: > A couple of details that remain to be settled are: the number of chairs > (I suggest 3) and the actual names. Since they are going to be delegates > I reserve the right to make the final decision, but I would appreciate > proposals from this list (either in public or in private, I don't > care). Constitution implies that they should be DD, but non-packagers > who have contributed to DebConf organization in the past can be DD > (hint, hint!). When making the decision on names, I would advise strongly to delegate people who show an open interest to DebConf ANYWHERE, and haven't specifically singled out one country or another as somewhere they'll never "allow" a DebConf to take place, or refusal to participate at a DebConf based on where the DebConf was held. Since Debian is comprised of many participants of many nationalities, it only makes the process that much more transparent and supportive of all developers if the candidates are receptive to bids that are put together, or they are considering putting together. If anyone comes into the process with clear biases and refuses to look beyond those biases for the rest of Debian, it's a detriment to DebConf as a whole. Cheers, Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Fwd: san juan del sur NOT managua
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:24:33PM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > >> If San Juan del Sur is so fun, people can head there for holidays after > >> DebConf. > > I will gladly help arrange holidays in/near SJDS after/before the conference. And don't forget the day trip. If it's only a ~4hr round trip, if there are things to see and do in San Juan del Sur, that might be an ideal day trip spot. Typically, not all participants go on the day trip, and we wouldn't be overwhelming hotels anyway because we return to the venue in the evening/at night. Leave ~8am, get there around ~10am, spend the late morning and afternoon, then leave for the venue again ~7pm (post dinner) to get back around ~9pm or such. Naturally, this is dependent on timetables that are actually available for the express transportation options. It's a thought, anyway. It sounds like the venue at Managua is the superior option due to accessibility, connectivity and simply ability to accomodate 300+ people; that doesn't mean that San Juan del Sur is out of the question, though. :) -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Alternative accommodation in Yverdon-les-Bains
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 04:22:53PM +0100, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 11.03.2013 16:13, Raphaël Walther wrote: > >Now, it looks like we need already the final number of room we need. > >Obviously, she doesn't want me to book 10 rooms and have three people > >coming at the end. > Thank you for your job, but it is not really our business going so > in details. I think we should provide the names of few hotels near > Le Camp (in the wiki, with ev. few additional information), but we > should stop there. Reservations, prices and other issues (category, > room types, etc) should be a task for attendee. Doing it centralized > is a huge task, which IMHO could cause only problems (no-show, > overbooking because people forgot to answer mails, etc.) > Remember one of DebConf motto: "we are not a travel agency" While DebConf isn't a travel agency, remember that many hotels will offer conference discounts, but the conference organizers will need to discuss with the local hotels what's going on and see if they're willing to offer a conference discount at all. So, it's a happy medium to get minor information, get minor support from local hotels and share that information with the attendees. Thank you, Raphaël, for looking into the hotel. Will DebConf attendees be able to contact them and say they're with DebConf to get the ~10% off the room rate? Some attendees will be much more comfortable in hotel lodgings, which will ease a lot of the accommodation burden placed on Le Camp. The orga team doesn't have to (and should not!!) make those arrangements *for* them, but doing minor legwork (such as pre-clearing conference discounts and announcing which hotels have been contacted) still helps. :) -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] what are the steps to volunteer for DebConf13
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:44:39PM +0100, JALLOW Alfusainey wrote: > Having seen the advertisement about DebConf13 at our university website, > university of Fribourg, Switzerland, I would kindly want to participate as a > volunteer for the upcoming DebConf13. The first step that I took, which I > think was a little mistake, was registering to the debconf-team mailing list > about three weeks or so ago. Since then, I receive tuns of emails and have no > clue, what so ever, about what people are talking about. > I am a CS master student and a big fan and user of Debian. I will be > interested to volunteer for the Website team. If this team already has enough > members, then I am flexible to be assign to any team that needs help. Kindly > let me know what's the registration proceedure. Please don't be discouraged by the number of threads and the ... vociferousness... of some of the replies. There is always plenty of work to do, and fresh ideas and talents are always going to be welcome. I'm sure the local Swiss team can help you feel your way into the local atmosphere more easily than I can from this distance, but welcome, and feel free to ask questions! Are you famiiar with IRC? If so, there are a lot of Debian people on several of OFTC's channels that can also field questions or help you get a feel for where you might like to be more involved. Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Conference bag proposal
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:52:23PM +0100, Arne Wichmann wrote: > Hi... > We have a proposition from one potential sponsor to be a bronze sponsor and > to provide us with very sturdy conference bags (made from lorry tarpaulin) > in a desingn of our choice including their logo. Should we take that offer > or should we decline given that they are a bronze sponsor only (and do our > own bags with names of all sponsors)? Or maybe we include all sponsors on > the bag (if the above sponsor accepts this). I think more information would be awesome on this. Recognizing this contribution as part of their sponsorship is also in order; is the cost/value of this contribution enough to move them up the sponsorship scale? So, I think it'd be a great offer, as long as they allow for the DebConf logo and top sponsors as well. And we should publically thank them for their support as well (of course). -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Conference bag proposal
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 06:23:41PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > So my thoughts here, are in agreement for different reasons. I > somewhat feel that if there is an official conference bag it should > either have no sponsor logos, or have the logo of all the larger > sponsors as we have done in the past. I understand that logos on bags > are less loved than unlogoed bags (by attendees), but as a member of > sponsors team, it was an additional perk we were able to offer our > larger sponsors that I was somewhat sad to see go away. (In the > future, I think we should try to reinstitute an official conference > bag, but make it nicer than the ones we gave out at DC10, which were > orange for lack of a better word, "synthetic hemp" bags.) Depending on > where future DebConfs are held, I think I will be willing to help make > this happen, if there is a will to revive the "official bag". > That said, if a sponsor wants to add a bag as swag, I don't have a > problem as long as it isn't the "official conference bag", and they > should just do what they want as far as their logo goes. IE: We > shouldn't provide them with official conference artwork. (Vendor swag > is not a donation to DebConf, so it wouldn't count as sponsorship.) > If they want to make it the official conference bag, I'd say that's > fine if it either had no sponsor logos, or the higher tiered sponsor > logos (Gold+) were imprinted. (In this case we would of course count > the cost of making and shipping the bags as sponsorship, and if it was > high enough would bump them to the appropriate sponsor level.) Very very very well stated and absolutely 100% agreed. (Ok, 99% - I'm still lukewarm on having an official conference bag at every conference. It's *nice* to have the bags, but having it as a requirement is probably a * stretch, especially with budget limitations we face each year.) -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 - DebCamp
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 07:50:03PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote: > Hi there, > We have a important team meeting tomorrow Monday at 20:00 CEST (18:00 > UTC) because we need to open registration soon. > I have just contributed to the agenda of tomorrow meeting by adding a > question mark regarding DebCamp. > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20130408 > This is the last chance to decide in favor or against this option in my > opinion as we need to take this decision before opening registration. I'm confused why this is still a question. It was my understanding that a contract was signed and this is The Venue, for better or worse. If people still have disagreement on this venue, I think their time to discuss it has expired. We're 4 months from DebConf, and this is not a time to start exploring other venue options. Opening up and encouraging discussion on this will not be productive. I encourage you to withdraw the question as this decision (at least, as it has been discuss globally) has already been made. -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 - DebCamp
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 01:36:05PM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 07:50:03PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote: > > Hi there, > > > We have a important team meeting tomorrow Monday at 20:00 CEST (18:00 > > UTC) because we need to open registration soon. > > > I have just contributed to the agenda of tomorrow meeting by adding a > > question mark regarding DebCamp. > > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20130408 > > > This is the last chance to decide in favor or against this option in my > > opinion as we need to take this decision before opening registration. > I'm confused why this is still a question. It was my understanding that a > contract was signed and this is The Venue, for better or worse. > If people still have disagreement on this venue, I think their time to > discuss it has expired. We're 4 months from DebConf, and this is not a time > to start exploring other venue options. > Opening up and encouraging discussion on this will not be productive. I > encourage you to withdraw the question as this decision (at least, as it has > been discuss globally) has already been made. My apologies - I confused myself. We're talking about Deb*Camp*, not DebConf (time to have the glasses checked). Nevermind, carry on! DebCamp discssion! -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] skip breakfast from budget (and dc13 orga mostly)
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:41:26PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > Le Camp doesnt really care for what we spent our money (as long as they get > > roughly what we predicted we would spent) so I would rather spent this on > > more > > beds and more lunch+dinners (thus enabling more people to come) than on > > expensive food which is halfly thrown away. > I don't think this is true. Asking for this change now, will cause > significant unhappyness on their side at least. And as the contract we > signed includes breakfast they can also just reject such a proposal. > I'm quite sure that for them skipping breakfast sounds quite unusal. The > costs of breakfast are part of their calculation and we can't really > guarantee that we will pay the same amount of money to them even if we > don't take breakfast. I doubt asking to skip one of the 3 meals of the day as part of the hospitality negotiations is the strangest request they're going to face from us. :) A venue accustomed to hosting different events may actually be quite accustomed to requests of this nature. It certainly couldn't hurt to discuss with them the possibility of paying for something *else* (like a few extra days prior to DebConf - aka DebCamp), while dropping the breakfast option of the Conference proper. > While for some people breakfast is not needed, other participants want > to eat breakfast and as their is no nearby restaurant/bar for breakfast > they will be unhappy as well. Providing breakfast on our own is also a > lot of work as we would have to provide the food, do the dishwashing, > the cleaning of the kitchens etc. It's not just to cost of the food. This is an excellent point. But, I think for those who don't "need" breakfast, they may be inclined to a late-night "snack" to sustain them between dinner and lunch. The meal is really still present, just removed by a few hours. Holger's suggestion of having some snacks (breakfast items) available would actually meet this need, too. And, would be much less expensive than $10/person/day. We could gather volunteers to keep the kitchen stocked with things like cereal, musli, yogurt, fruit, granola, etc. for light breakfasts/late night snacks and those who partake in those breakfasts would be responsible for cleaning up after themselves (we are, afterall, adults, right?). This is, of course, assuming that Le Camp would be open to not providing hot breakfasts, which is something we could certainly explore. > Renegotiating this now is really not something I'm prepared to do. If > someone really has the courage to go to Le Camp with that proposal, I > won't stay in their way, but don't count on me to do it. We already have to renegotiate, right? By extending our dates to include DebCamp? Why not roll this into that renegotiation? -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Conference bag proposal
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 02:31:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 23. April 2013, Arne Wichmann wrote: > > I have now discussed with the sponsor, and they would be ok with a small > > number of sponsors on the bag (platinum and gold) and their own of > > course. > I'm not really sure this is ok, or to phrase it differently: I don't think we > can/should do this (without risking to alienate other sponsors). > (With "this" being: gold+silver + their own.) Did we find out how much those bags would be "worth", and thus include that in our estimations of their sponsorship? It could be that the donations of the bags will put them into the higher categories, at which point they most certainly SHOULD have a logo on the bags. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Conference bag proposal
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: > > Did we find out how much those bags would be "worth", and thus include that > > in our estimations of their sponsorship? It could be that the donations of > > the bags will put them into the higher categories, at which point they most > > certainly SHOULD have a logo on the bags. > Just doing some ballpark numbers, I'd be shocked if the bags are of > high enough/cost value to have this qualify as a Gold level > sponsorship. Right, but it was my understanding that the company in question was also donating funds as well as the bags. And this doesn't really answer my question of the "worth" of the bags; how much is it costing to provide 200+ high quality bags for the conference, between materials, printing and other service costs? And, with our current timeline, do we have to worry about how quickly they'd be produced? -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Conference bag proposal
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:59:42AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 23. April 2013, Patty Langasek wrote: > > Did we find out how much those bags would be "worth" > they are worth "nothing", from an organizer POV - we can do debconf pretty > well without them. I meant what their value would be; how much will they cost the company to donate them? We can do debconf pretty well without a lot of things, but sponsors should still get credit even if they earmark donations to something that's not a direct "necessity" to coordinating or hosting the conference. What you're suggesting is that high quality bags would just be high price-tagged swag, in which case, there should be no requirements placed on the donating company at all, just as we don't require other sponsors to print or limit what they distribute to attendees otherwise. For the record, I don't like that suggestion; we've had nice bags several years, and they come in handy well after the conference is over. They're nice to have specifically at the venue, too. We have an option to get nice bags again this year, with little to no cost to the conference, and that should be a factor in how we acknowledge this sponsor. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:17:03AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google > > (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation > > (http://www.matanel.org). > I think the short version is better. And, as others suggested, I'd add > "as well as our other sponsors > (http://debconf13.debconf.org/sponsors.xhtml)" Agreed: Grammarfied: DebConf13 thanks its two platinum sponsors, Google (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation (http://www.matanel.org), as well all other sponsors (http://debconf13.debconf.org/sponsors.xhtml). Could we also add a "fluff" sentence to that? Such as, "Your generous support is very appreciated." ? -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] LCFC: Opening Registration for DC13
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hi all, > @press: Q for you at the end of this mail > This will be the latest status update before opening registration early > tomorrow morning. Target time is 10h00 Swiss time. > Le mardi, 30 avril 2013 18.57:36, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit : > > = Announcement mail and blogpost > Latest (short) version including the platinum sponsors mentions is attached, > please take your last opportunity to comment! I'm not convinced by the last > "Looking forward to welcoming you in Le Camp in August,"; what about "We are > looking forward (…)" ? How about "We look forward to welcoming you to Le Camp in August!" ? It's smoother. :) -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf 13 room planning (talks, hacklabs, bar, ...)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 03:39:11PM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 18.06.2013 10:42, Benedikt Trefzer wrote: > (...) > >The bar team votes for bar in rotonde. > >We are aware of the fact, that the bar is not the most important part of > >the organisation. So we'd like to clearly state, it is possible to > >organise Bar@le carré but > >The most important thing for us is to have a decision soon, so things > >can get organized. > I don't think bar is so important, and i think we should hope good > weather, and push people to drink outdoor (easier/cheaper to clean > beer). While trying to not sound like the alcoholic American, I would like to disagree. > DebConf priorities are talks, informal BoF rooms and hacklabs, so we > should start finding the rooms for such things, and then you should > choose the better place for bars. DebConf priorities are ABSOLUTELY talks, informal BoF rooms and hacklabs, but those (especially the talks and BoFs) generally happen during "day hours", while socializing, wandering, drinking, etc. will happen in the evenings/after dinner. Since the venue is fairly far removed from typical after-conference haunts, it's going to be pretty important to have a designated meeting area, otherwise attendees may designate their own drinking rooms. And the smaller bar will get very quickly overcrowded. To quote, "If you serve it, they will come." > But we really need such big place for a bar? I would be disappointed > if bar will be more full than talk rooms (also considering that in > Le Camp we have nice outdoor places and many terraces to enjoy > better the nature. I would expect bar to be lightly used during talks, but heavily used right before dinner and especially right after dinner. Would there be any way to have the small bar available during the day and larger afterwards? Would the bar team be amenable to this? -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Conference bag proposal
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 01:55:59PM +0200, Arne Wichmann wrote: > begin quotation from Arne Wichmann (in > <20130606101507.ge22...@anhrefn.saar.de>): > > Appended is a censored proposal for a conference bag. Is this design > > acceptable, and if not, what would be needed to change? > So, after some discussions I have 2 other designs which should make the > distinction between gold/platinum sponsors and bag sponsor clearer. As > timing is an issue now (printing takes a month) I urge you to answer > quickly (until Tuesday) if you do not like this proposal. I think the proposal looks good, though I will say that the 'bag sponsored by' looks a little ... akward. I understand the sentiment behind it, but it just seems weird. Could we keep that design, but simply omit the words and have people still be happy? The gold/platinum sponsor logos are still prominent, and the bag sponsor logo is separated, but still present and obvious. Anyone else? -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Meeting Minutes from 6/26/13
Hello, team! I was trying to follow along in the minutes made during yesterday's local team meeting, and a couple of things came up that I'd like a little clarification for since I wasn't there to hear the actual conversations. 1) I noticed that decisions on family arrangements at Le Camp were going to be referred entirely to registrat...@debconf.org. However, we (at least *I*) don't really have direction on what's appropriate for family accommodations at the venue, and it sounds like sponsored communal arrangements are quite full. When people first approached us about bringing their spouses and children, we tried to very politely direct them away from expecting to stay on the venue with concerns that we 1) wouldn't have detailed accounting until it was far beyond an appropriate planning timeline for that family to be able to attend and 2) didn't know how many actual *attendees* needed those spaces. Can I get clarification on what decisions registration@ is responsible for regarding non-attendee arrangements? 2) The question of cleaning came up again - and I'm seeking clarification of what's going on with the dishes after meals/cleaning up after lunch and dinner. Thank you, Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting Minutes from 6/26/13
Eeep! I forgot to share the meeting minutes for those who weren't nosey like me and followed along at home (or at work like I did): http://piratenpad.de/p/dc13ch-20130626 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 09:21:54AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > Hello, team! > > I was trying to follow along in the minutes made during yesterday's local > team meeting, and a couple of things came up that I'd like a little > clarification for since I wasn't there to hear the actual conversations. > > 1) I noticed that decisions on family arrangements at Le Camp were going to > be referred entirely to registrat...@debconf.org. However, we (at least *I*) > don't really have direction on what's appropriate for family accommodations > at the venue, and it sounds like sponsored communal arrangements are quite > full. When people first approached us about bringing their spouses and > children, we tried to very politely direct them away from expecting to stay > on the venue with concerns that we 1) wouldn't have detailed accounting > until it was far beyond an appropriate planning timeline for that family to > be able to attend and 2) didn't know how many actual *attendees* needed > those spaces. Can I get clarification on what decisions registration@ is > responsible for regarding non-attendee arrangements? > > > 2) The question of cleaning came up again - and I'm seeking clarification of > what's going on with the dishes after meals/cleaning up after lunch and > dinner. > > > Thank you, > Patty > > -- > -- > > Patty Langasek > harmo...@dodds.net > > -- > > At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be > sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always > there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your > passion takes you. > --- J. Michael Straczynski > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Thank you for the food and accommodation for DC13
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:53:28AM -0500, athanlibex wrote: > Hi team. Thank you very much for the support for food and accomodation > for this DebConf in Vaumarcus. Even though I can not go because of my > University activities in August and the travel cost, I only want to say > thank you for consider me. I hope to see you in the next DebConf and > keep doing by the moment more things related to Debian from here. > Regards and enjoy DC13! Jonathan, We're all very sorry to hear you won't be joining us this year. If you haven't already, please log into your Penta account(0) and deselect the option for "I want to attend this conference", and make sure the "Reconfirm Attendance" box is also not checked. We all wish you well and hope to see you in the future! Thank you, Patty On behalf of DebConf Registration -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote: > Hi there, > This is quite urgent please read. I would need your input as soon as possible. Thank you so much for looking into this! > DISHWASHING > Well, I have three persons interested for dishwashing and helping for CHF 800 > per person from 10 august 2013 to 18 august 2013. The issue are the day will > be > very long for them from 10:00 to 22:00. And the agency will close for one > month end of next week. I need to speak to the people and get the contract > sign > by next week! > The contracts will be done by the agency and we will just receive the bill (no > added fees from the agency and not additional paperwork for social charges). > So, my suggestion is to have two teams : > a) 3 people from 10:00 to 16:00 > b) 3 people from 16:00 to 22:00 > They will prepare tables and be responsible for dishwashing. > With current forfait, this would mean > Forfait: 6* CHF 800 = CHF 4800 > Social charges estimates: 10% = CHF 480 > > Total cost CHF 5280 > CLEANING > Regarding cleaning I have a company for CHF 36.18 per hours VAT included > (33.50 > *1.08). > They don't work on Sunday (or they charge a lot for it). > I have the following plan : > 7 August - 10 August (DebCamp) : 2 hours per day - 1 person from 9:00 to 11:00 > 12 August - 17 August (Conference) : 9 hours per day - 3 person * 3 hours > from 9:00 to 12:00 This looks reasonable to me. > So 8 hours + 54 hours equal 62 hours in total. > Total cleaning would be 62 * CHF 36.18 = CHF 2243.16 (as long as we stick to > that plan) > DISHWASHING & CLEANING > Dishwashing CHF 5280 > CleaningCHF 2243.16 > > Total CHF 7523.16 > Budget CHF 5600 > > Missing money CHF 1923.16 > My questions now: > 1) Shall I go with the two dishwasher teams ? That seems reasonable to me - do the teams have a travel fee as well? Just want to make sure that plan includes their estimates of getting to and from Le Camp and we don't have surprises when the invoice comes in. > 2) Do we have this additional CHF 2k for the cleaning & dishwashing? > Note: The cleaning company could do all the work but it would cost us the > 36.18 > per hour for dishwashing instead of CHF 16.29 for young people (social charges > estimates of 10% included). Makes sense. Thanks, Raphaël! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Thank you for the food and accommodation for DC13
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:58:44PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Patty Langasek wrote: > > If you haven't already, please log into your Penta account(0) and deselect > > the option for "I want to attend this conference", and make sure the > > "Reconfirm Attendance" box is also not checked. > > isn't not reconfirming enough? > Jonathan is a very nice person and might also uncheck the "I want to attend" > but I guess most people wont, so I think it's pointless to ask the nice > people > for extra steps... I was making the same request that the local team has been making since people have started sending in their regrets. Their reasoning behind it was so that we could get better numbers of who's attending, and who just didn't click on 'Reconfirm' and who still needs to be reminded to reconfirm and so forth. I know there have been questions as to total numbers that they're trying to account for room assignments, camping assignments and other "things", and I don't think it unreasonable to ask people to help us make our numbers just a little more precise. :) Patty > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be > filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget. This was part of a long debate - unless we have enough volunteers dedicated to handling this, or people who will take responsibility in the event that the volunteers ... choose not to complete this task, it's unreasonable to expect that this will just get done. What this means is that for those volunteer hours, they will be dedicating an hour or so after each meal to duties that should have been (and aren't, so we're trying to cover it) included with catering. If this is the way we're going with this, we need to have the dishwashing volunteer crew staffed and ready to start with the first full meal (lunch) and finish with the last dinner, and someone to be responsible in the event the crew can't manage the workload. Front desk will not be responsible for dishwashing. -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:20:24PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 16.54:46, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > > Is anybody considering alternative strategies like disposable plates > > and cutlery? I don't believe it is a good option, but if the > > volunteer option is chosen and it works out badly, then at some > > point it may be necessary and it would be useful to have costings > > for the materials (e.g. 3,000 paper plates, ...) > You still need people to make them available, put them in wastebins, > dispose the wastebins, etc etc. I seem to remember somewhere along the line that disposable plates and cutlery were not feasible for Le Camp, like there was a policy against them or something. Am I misremembering? -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Lanyards, badge holders and badges
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:44:09PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le lundi, 22 juillet 2013 21.14:51, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit : > > Paperboard: If we fold A6 in two, we can do 4 double-sided badges per > > A4 sheet printed only on one side (or 8 double-sided badges if we > > print on two sides, but it's trickier to succeed). The printing of > > such A4 sheets (that we can then cut ourselves) is likely to be > > around 30 CHF/item. > That was unclear + a typo; what I was trying to write is that printing > strong A4 sheets is likely to cost 0.30 CHF/sheet. Excuse my ignorance, but would it be possible to print 2-sided and make 16 badges per A4 sheet? Many printers can easily accommodate 2-sided printing. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Lanyards, badge holders and badges
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:14:51PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hi all, > following up on the discussion that happenned today on IRC, let me try > to sommarize its origin and outcomes. Thanks, OdyX. :) > The situation is that we need attendee badges for all sorts of reasons > and the usual way to do that has been that the conference would provide > these individual badges, the badges holders and lanyards (usually). As > these three things are separate, let's try to keep them so. > a) Lanyards > One of our silver sponsors is apparently happy to provide enough branded > (not Debian-branded, sponsor-branded) lanyards for everyone, for free. > Given that they are a sponsor already, I think it's sane to let them > provide the lanyards to the DebConf attendees. For reference, a similar > offer has been made by a Bronze sponsor. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanyard#Badge_or_identification_holder Both sponsors are happy to send us some lanyards for free. They didn't suggest them, I solicited from *them* because I knew they had extras that weren't in use. Both sponsors are also happy to ship them to the conference, we just need an address where they can be received. Le Camp? Directly to one of you guys in Swissland? Taking into account some of the concerns voiced, I think having 2 different kinds of lanyards available +/- "clips" for those who feel that wearing such a lanyard is openly showing support for that corporation (which I disagree with, but such is the argument) is a suitable compromise. For those who prefer lanyards, they will be available. For those who don't, there would be some clips available, correct, Cate? -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Lanyards, badge holders and badges
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:59:58PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:14:51PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > a) Lanyards > As I've said on IRC, if the sponsors team decide to do a last minute promotion > for a given sponsor I'd accept it, but personally I think this is not the best > option at all. Given that branded-colored lanyards draw much attention I know > many people who won't be happy using it, mainly if it has > Ubuntu Or Intel. There would be Options. > printed on it. I'd like to, again, note that this was not a suggestion by either sponsor, and neither sponsor is trying to get a higher sponsorship level with this. This was an attempt by me to save the DebConf organization some money since previous discussions of cost on various issues have caused anxiety. This is one of the things that I don't consider worth spending another 1000 CHF on, especially considering other things we have chosen, as a team, to not spend money on. > So I'd leave this option as something option in the frontdesk for those who > want to take one. > There's an option raised by hug which would cost about CHF 700 to make it in > time (CHF 2.46 per lanyard). They would be custom Debian lanyards with up to 4 > colors. We could even make a bit more for selling (?) I think it's very > valuable, since people use to save them to use in many others events, > promoting > the project in some way. I've experienced that in Brazil for many years and I > still have mine. See an example (not me in the picture): > http://www.flickr.com/photos/beraldoleal/5898404742/lightbox/ And this would be a great option, if we didn't have other budget concerns and arguments as is. I, personally, feel a good conference dinner and day trip is much more valuable than a lanyard. I, also, have a Debian lanyard from Brazil (somewhere in my house) that I've kept, but those were planned for and budgeted into DC4, which is not the case here. I think having them available for sale at the conference is worthy, and people could certainly buy one for 5 CHF (or whatever) if they'd prefer to have that over one of the "free" (yes, free. Logo or not, they cost the attendees nothing.) lanyards. But, I don't think we should expect everyone to purchase one either. I think this is an acceptable thing to have *in addition to the complimentarily provided lanyards*, but not something to expect attendees to purchase to be able to display their badges, nor the only option available. Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [YES] Daytrip and conference dinner proposal
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:21:18PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Do not reply to this text, just prepend the title with [YES] or [NO]. I answer yes here anyway because I'm stubborn. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Improving the lunch for DebConf13?
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 06:40:27PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > The current budget includes the "formule lunch" for every day for 90 > persons during DebCamp and 290 persons during DebConf. But currently we > only have 50 persons during DebCamp and 250 persons during DebConf. This > means that we will use about 15k CHF less for the meals (34 * 40 *4 + 34 > * 40 * 7). > The question is now if we are happy with the "formule lunch" on every > day as it is or if we want a better lunch on some days. The complete > lunch costs 6CHF/meal more. If we want to improve the lunch I > suggest we choose the full lunch for 2 days during DebCamp and 3 days > during DebConf. This would cost us 5100.- CHF (600.- for DebCamp and > 4500.- for DebConf). There have been concerns issued that if we can keep costs low, we should. And while that concern very directly affects me (as a DC14 organizer), I think having full lunches on a couple of days would be very welcomed. We have multiple different dietary considerations to take into account and it'll be nice to have variety even without those considerations. Am I understanding the budget calculations correctly that we would end up saving 9900 CHF instead of 15k CHF? Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Daytrip information [1618]
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 06:54:56PM +0200, Matthias Geerdsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > > On 08/13/2013 06:39 PM, DebConf Registration Team wrote: > > Hi Matthias Geerdsen > > > > Tomorrow (Wednesday) is the day trip. > > > > You have selected the following DayTrip option and we have compiled > > the relevant information for you: > > > > B: Asphalt Mine > > > If you want to change your daytrip option, please contact us as > > soon as possible. Please don't change your option in penta > > yourself. > > sorry for the late info, but could you please switch me to option O > (conference dinner only). This is done. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DC14: parallel activities for families with kids
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:23:03PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 08/19/2013 11:32 AM, Hector Oron wrote: > > I would be interested to help on planning parallel activities for > > families with kids, so it is possible to ease Debian Developers attend > > conference while their families keep entertained. I've already been making noises about wanting to ensure families are accommodated appropriately and that we can find some sort of solution for conference day-care. It'll be difficult as most of the people I know day-care wise provide services on a permanent basis, and I have no idea what rates will be (or where day care can be provided) for a week's worth of service. > I plan to attend DC14, and i also want to help with this. While > external sites sound great for specific outings, I think having a > kid-friendly space available within or near the conference is important. > If we want to do this well, it'd be nice to get an understanding of > which kids might be attending, how old they will be at the time of DC14, > and what sorts of things they're interested in. All kids are different, > and a childcare space for a half-dozen three-year-olds is a very > different space than one for two 10-year-olds. Definitely. We will also probably need to see if waivers need to be drawn up, if parents will be with their children the whole time, or if they need to leave the children with others so they can attend sessions, etc. Daniel and Hector, do you mind leading the charge on gathering this information? > Anyone on the local team interested in bottom-lining this, if we can get > sufficient volunteer commitments and/or local childcare providers lined > up beforehand? I might know a person or two who could help us organize this. :) > To any debian parents who would like to bring their kid(s) but aren't > sure if that will work out: what kind of support would be most useful to > you and your kids? Thanks for getting the ball rolling, guys! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Framework for taking measures in case of severely unsuitable behaviour during DebConf
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 03:49:57PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 21/08/13 at 06:13 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Do you think that something more than this is needed?: > > Anti-harrassment > > DebConf is committed to a safe environment for all participants. All > > attendees are expected to treat all people and facilities with respect and > > help create a welcoming environment. If you notice behavior that fails to > > meet this standard, please speak up and help to keep DebConf as respectful > > as we expect it to be. > > If you are harassed and requests to stop are not successful, or notice a > > disrespectful environment, the organizers want to help. Please contact us > > at antiharassm...@debian.org. We will treat your request with dignity and > > confidentiality, investigate, and take whatever actions appropriate. We > > can provide information on security, emergency services, transportation, > > alternative accommodations, or whatever else may be necessary. If > > mediation is not successful, DebConf reserves the right to to take action > > against those who do not cease unacceptable behavior. > > http://debconf13.debconf.org/register.xhtml#antiharassment > > I think that speaks to the incomplete integration between the > > debconfN.debconf.org site and the wiki, more than anything else. If we were > > consistently directing people via the former rather than the latter, perhaps > > the existing notice would be sufficient? > Right, I did not find that notice in the Registration page. I agree that > its content is sufficient, and that we only need to make sure that it's > not too far from the critical path of DebConf attendees. Thank you to everyone with the excellent feedback! I feel much more comfortable with handling harrassment concerns now. Thanks! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#720996: please create debconf-kids@lists.d.o
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:08:09AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I also cannot see the need to have this list created as > private-secret-nonarchived. Some preferences specific to each of the > kids will be discussed, sure, but I really doubt strong > individual-characteric features of each kid will be part of > this. Stating you have a given number of kids, of a given age (or age > rank), or that you want allergies to be taken into consideration > should not require setting up another -private list. Even worse, as > you are requesting it not to be archived. I can absolutely understand why people want to keep the conversation on such a list closed. I sincerely doubt that privacy concerns and protectiveness of children is limited to the society in whcih I live, and hearing that this concern was raised by *TWO* Debian Developers who are interested in having a safe atmosphere for them (and their spouses) to help coordinate plans that may, or may not, include timetables and places to meet and such where children will be present, I don't think this request is off-base at all. In fact, I think this is by far one of the *BEST* uses of private, closed mailing lists. And I could probably argue that it's a better use of privacy and closure than other lists within the Debian mailing list structure. > Maybe those needs would be better served by not having the list be in > official lists? Which brings us back into contention about whether DebConf is a separate entity from Debian, or a part of the Debian project. Back at DC10, the discussion was resolved that DebConf is a part of the Debian project, and exists to improve Debian. At the time, efforts were being made to coordinate funding and fund*raising* make it clear that the Debian project feels this way. More recently, efforts have been made to discontinue separation of DebConf organization from the rest of the project (namely, by moving mailing lists to the main Debian structure, among other minor changes). I don't feel a separate mailing list structure is necessary to accommodate a mailing list meant to be a lower-volume, more targetted (and private!) list for accompanying families of a DebConf attendee to help coordinate amongst themselves. It might mean that some people who sit out a DebConf won't see what's happened at that conference. I don't necessarily consider this a problem. It was also their choice to sit out a DebConf, and they wouldn't need to be coordinating at that time anyway. On the other hand, they could certainly join it even if they aren't attending a particular DebConf, but the traffic on the mailing list wouldn't likely be of interest to them that year. I just remain unconvinced what the problem of having this mailing list for DebConf purposes is. Are we worried about precedent set by requesting a private, no archive list? Are there any other private, no archive lists as part of the Debian listserve? If so, what reasons were they granted those attributes? Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
Good morning, everyone! The time has come, my oyster friends, to speak of dates and things! So, we know we have Portland State University reserved for the last week of August, and can get the weekends capping either side of that week for Things We Need. Now, though, we need to decide what dates we should start and end the conference proper, what dates will be available for travel, arrivals and departures, and how, if at all, we're going to handle separate hacking time (as opposed to talks/BOFs). Calendar August Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Things We Know Right now, we know we have the dates 24 Aug - 30 Aug, with departure of no later than 1 September 2014 for our official venue. Right now, we know the official venue (for talks and BOFs) is booked on either side of those dates during the week for other conferences/organizations, so for the rooms we need, we'll *have to* have talks scheduled somewhere between 23/24 August and 30/31 August. Right now, we know our accommodations will become limited starting on 1 September 2014 (people are returning to school and the dorms will no longer be available to us at that time). Monday, 1 September 2014 is a US holiday, meaning our access to university personnel may be severely limited. (And people will need to keep that in mind for travel reasons; this is Labor Day in the US, and travel is *extremely* busy on this day.) Things We Need to Decide 1. Daytrip - yes or no? And when? During the week is ideal, as there will be less traffic and less conflict with other tourists/weekend travellers. 2. DebCamp - yes or no? We do not have official venue (talk rooms) for the week prior to our reserved dates (or the week after). If we do have DebCamp, it will need to be restricted in number and time (it won't be a week long). 3. Separate Hacking Time - yes or no? One thing the organizers would like to see is hacking and collaborating time (different from DebCamp) that doesn't conflict with the Talks Schedule. 4. Talks - Call for Team! - We need to decide when the talks start, when they end, tracks, what days, how many, etc. This is key to declaring our dates. DC13 Final Report How close to finished with this are we? What remains? DC14 Fundraising Brochure Where are we at with this? How long after the DC13 Final Report is finished can we be ready to push out the DC14 information? Summary Go team, go! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:28:46AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > Good morning, everyone! > The time has come, my oyster friends, to speak of dates and things! > So, we know we have Portland State University reserved for the last week of > August, and can get the weekends capping either side of that week for Things > We Need. Now, though, we need to decide what dates we should start and end > the conference proper, what dates will be available for travel, arrivals and > departures, and how, if at all, we're going to handle separate hacking time > (as opposed to talks/BOFs). > Calendar > August > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa > 01 02 > 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 > 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 > 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 > 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 > 31 > Things We Know > Right now, we know we have the dates 24 Aug - 30 Aug, with departure of no > later than 1 September 2014 for our official venue. > Right now, we know the official venue (for talks and BOFs) is booked on > either side of those dates during the week for other > conferences/organizations, so for the rooms we need, we'll *have to* have > talks scheduled somewhere between 23/24 August and 30/31 August. > Right now, we know our accommodations will become limited starting on 1 > September 2014 (people are returning to school and the dorms will no longer > be available to us at that time). > Monday, 1 September 2014 is a US holiday, meaning our access to university > personnel may be severely limited. (And people will need to keep that in > mind for travel reasons; this is Labor Day in the US, and travel is > *extremely* busy on this day.) > Things We Need to Decide > 1. Daytrip - yes or no? And when? During the week is ideal, as there will >be less traffic and less conflict with other tourists/weekend >travellers. > 2. DebCamp - yes or no? We do not have official venue (talk rooms) for the >week prior to our reserved dates (or the week after). If we do have >DebCamp, it will need to be restricted in number and time (it won't be >a week long). > 3. Separate Hacking Time - yes or no? One thing the organizers would like >to see is hacking and collaborating time (different from DebCamp) that >doesn't conflict with the Talks Schedule. > 4. Talks - Call for Team! - We need to decide when the talks start, when >they end, tracks, what days, how many, etc. This is key to declaring >our dates. > DC13 Final Report > How close to finished with this are we? What remains? > DC14 Fundraising Brochure > Where are we at with this? How long after the DC13 Final Report is finished > can we be ready to push out the DC14 information? > Summary > Go team, go! Addendum: Website I saw some interest in driving the website transition. Is there still interest out there, who is interested and how can we help you? Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 03:12:48AM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > I also think we should try to retain debcamp if at all possible. As > someone who has worked on the network infrastructure for debconf in past > conferences, debcamp is when much of the custom/specialized network > setup and testing actually happens. > If we only get access to the facilities the first day of debconf, i > suspect that we will have a conference network much poorer than people > have grown to expect. We will probably also have a much grumpier > network team (is that possible?) because setup work will take them away > from the other scheduled activities of the conference itself. > If we have no debcamp, does the PDX team have a proposal for how to get > the conference network in place effectively starting on the first day? We have already precleared accommodating a small team to arrive early for essential setup and preparations, knowing that networking and video teams were going to need access to the facilities to get prepped for the conference. Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 11:08:53PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > An option could be to organise a few focused sprints in Portland just > before DebConf. Given that it's a good way to minimize travel costs, > It's reasonable to assume that our next DPL would welcome the idea. > It would be great if at some point someone local could provide a few > directions for that (e.g. recommend a hotel with suitable meeting > rooms). I'd be happy to gather a few hotel recommendations - the first I can point at is University Place Hotel [0], which was our "backup" venue - it's right across the street from Portland State University, and often hosts conferences. I might be able to talk to the PSU comp sci department and get them to "host" these sprints, which could help get a discounted rate through the hotel as well. Let me know when you need details ironed out, and I'm happy to get the quotes in place. Naturally, the further out this is planned, the more likely you're going to be accommodated as you wish. The closer we get to the conference dates, the harder (read: perhaps impossible) it's going to be to get the rooms and meeting places arranged. Thanks, Patty [0] http://www.uplacehotel.com -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Proposed DC14 schedule within: Re: DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:59:50PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:50:20 -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 11:08:53PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > It would be great if at some point someone local could provide a few > > > directions for that (e.g. recommend a hotel with suitable meeting > > > rooms). > > I'd be happy to gather a few hotel recommendations - the first I can point > > at is University Place Hotel [0], which was our "backup" venue - it's right > > across the street from Portland State University, and often hosts > > conferences. I might be able to talk to the PSU comp sci department and get > > them to "host" these sprints, which could help get a discounted rate through > > the hotel as well. > Cool, thank you! > > So it seems that with a different title and in a building a (few?) > block(s?) from the DebConf hotel+venue, DebCamp should be possible. Targetted team sprints should be possible. Please make note that my reply was in response to Lucas pointing out an *ALTERNATIVE* to DebCamp, which would be targetted team sprints. While we can probably get a discount at UPlace, the prices for anything there are going to be significantly higher than the university itself, even *with* the discount. And, while this could save on travel costs for Debian, those savings might end up, in the long run, be eaten up by the higher costs of meeting spaces and hotel rooms. With this *ALTERNATIVE* to DebCamp option on the table, we'd have to make a decision as to the size of the small groups, and length of time, etc. as a group in a very timely manner to make it happen. So, yes, this can be an option. If the global team and chairs determine that the cost is justified. Would Steve's suggestion of an 8 day (or whatever the details come out to) conference justify a longer trip in place of DebCamp, or the Targetted Sprints suggested by Lucas? > Great, I can live with these adjustments :) Except, the adjustments you're saying you can live with are not the necessarily the adjustments that were suggested. Just, please note that quoting my email from a separate subthread could create some confusion. My offer wasn't to reach out to UPlace to secure it for DebCamp. My offer was to reach out to them for quotes for Lucas' plan of targetted sprints around the time of DebConf. *This is a different proposal from "traditional" DebCamp, Scrapping DebCamp, or incorporating DebCamp into DebConf.* Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Proposed DC14 schedule within: Re: DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 05:19:05AM +0200, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Patty Langasek wrote: > >Would Steve's suggestion of an 8 day (or whatever the details come out > >to) > >conference justify a longer trip in place of DebCamp, or the Targetted > >Sprints suggested by Lucas? > Sorry to be dense, but what about what I suggested yesterday about debcamp > after debconf? Would it be possible to use discounted rates for the venue , > without accommodation? I don't think you're being dense at all. I thought I remembered a conversation that said the venue wasn't available much after the 1st of September, what with students starting to arrive on campus and the memorial union being used for orientation and other school-related activities. In fact, I think the latest available for the memorial union would be the 4th of September, if I understand what he meant in his email correctly. Steve might remember more specific dates of when we were told the venue would be unavailable, though. Steve? -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
Good morning, everyone! On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:28:46AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > The time has come, my oyster friends, to speak of dates and things! > Right now, we know we have the dates 24 Aug - 30 Aug, with departure of no > later than 1 September 2014 for our official venue. > Right now, we know the official venue (for talks and BOFs) is booked on > either side of those dates during the week for other > conferences/organizations, so for the rooms we need, we'll *have to* have > talks scheduled somewhere between 23/24 August and 30/31 August. > Right now, we know our accommodations will become limited starting on 1 > September 2014 (people are returning to school and the dorms will no longer > be available to us at that time). > Monday, 1 September 2014 is a US holiday, meaning our access to university > personnel may be severely limited. (And people will need to keep that in > mind for travel reasons; this is Labor Day in the US, and travel is > *extremely* busy on this day.) We're coming to the close of the period where we can comment this on the list. It's rapidly approaching time that we need to sign with the University to reserve our spaces for August 2014. I propose that we call an IRC meeting to finalize the dates and discuss DebCamp and alternatives to DebCamp, and I advise that those be the only agenda items for this meeting so we can focus and get them resolved. (They're currently the most time-sensitive outstanding issues.) With the local team (currently) being in PDT and much of the global team being in, well, not PDT, I also recommend we hold the meeting over a weekend to accommodate as many time zone issues as possible without making people sleep deprived. :) Yes, I know this means cutting into social time, but the alternative is going to be meeting times during the day that aren't possible for working PSTers to attend, or in the middle of the night that won't be possible for working Europeans to attend. I propose Saturday 10/12 (THIS SATURDAY) at 12pm (Noon) PDT, which would be 7pm (19:00) UTC, on the DebConf team IRC channel. We can look for better times to accommodate everyone in the future. Thanks, loves! Talk to you Saturday! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 06:13:03PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2013, Patty Langasek wrote: > > I propose Saturday 10/12 (THIS SATURDAY) at 12pm (Noon) PDT, which would be > > 7pm (19:00) UTC, on the DebConf team IRC channel. > sorry, thats too late for me this saturday. It will be the first day at home^ > win Hamburg since 3 weeks, so I'll be offline with friends at that time. A few > hours earlier might work, but not sure. So please have the meeting without me. A few hours earlier would be 7-8am PDT on a Saturday morning. I assure you there's nobody on the local team that could make that. I'm sorry you won't be able to make it. If the time is too inconvenient for other global members, we can try to find another time, but spread out across the world, it's not going to be terribly easy to find something that's perfect for everyone. I was trying to avoid work schedules and family dinners. > I will try my very best to read+reply to mails til then. > P.S.: more as a general comment, I try to announce meetings seven days in > advance, using doodle or similar to find a good date for everyone... And, I agree with this. I had hoped the mailing list discussion would be more fruitful than it has been in the 1.5 weeks that it's been open. Unfortunately, we need to make a decision, and it seems interest in the thread has died down. If I'm incorrect in that, all the better to actually have a meeting to make the decision soon while we still have the few ideas proposed fresh in our minds. It's been my experience (through work, DebConf, Portland SOC, etc.) that meetings announced seven days in advance have little more promise for attendance than meetings announced 3-5 days in advance, but we can consider other alternatives, such as next Wednesday at 5pm PDT, which would be midnight UTC. Or, we could look at next Saturday, 19 October at noon PDT, 7pm UTC. Would someone care to set up a doodle to find out what people find most appropriate? Meeting later than 19 October for these decisions is not an option. Thanks! Patty > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DC13 Final Report
Hello world! Are you wanting to help close DC13 and start on DC14, but don't really want to do any work on it? BOY DO I HAVE A DEAL FOR YOU!! We're starting to build momentum on getting DC14 up and going, and part of this includes getting the Final Report for DC13 completed. This is historically a hard, thankless project, and usually the next team steps up to help complete the Final Report for the last year with as much detail as they can. Steve and I are offering our help - just send us facts that need to be included in the report and we can work on getting the information presented sensibly, professionally, whatever. We can work on copy-editing and general editing; we just need the details filled in. Here's the fun thing! EVERYONE can help! Even if you feel like you were "just there", your input is still valuable. Take a look at what we need in the Final Report[0], find a section that looks interesting to you (or you know you can just get facts to someone else willing to do the grunt work for you), and own it!! Hint: Attendee Impressions, Cheese & Wine Party, and Freetime Activities are all super easy for anyone to help with. Thanks! Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/FinalReport -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] getting started on the DebConf14 website
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 03:10:33PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: > Hi all, > A few things that come to mind, for a flavor of Portland or more > generally Pacific Northwest: > - bridges > - city skyline > - Mt. Hood (though 2013 was mountains, so aim for distinction) > - evergreens > - bicycles > And leaning toward an "organic" pallette of greens, blues, browns, > and a touch of the Debian pink. If you haven't seen the wonderful logo Matto whipped up for us, I think it has a great start for a palette them in blues and greens, with hood in the background. We have the "official" DC14 logo wandering around here somewhere in all its Inkscape glory, but Steve will have to point to that (and I think the dates will need altered before pushing that logo out to the world). I put up a preview on my G+ page(0). Thanks for spearheading this, Allison!! This part of the hosting was honestly intimidating the crap out of me. :) (0) https://plus.google.com/103374711300866358062/posts/cGKJVpgZGiK -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Proposal for sponsorship levels (and registration fees) for DC14
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 04:08:22PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > I think we as a group need to decide NOW if conference bags are > something we want, if we want them to happen. (Please weigh in!) I feel that the bags are a benefit to the conference, and bags are widely given at "professional" conferences across many different industries. I really think we should continue this (somewhat) recent tradition, but I also don't feel strongly enough to insist we budget them over say, costs for sponsoring DDs in travel or accommodations. Bearing in mind, "bags" can be anything from plastic bags (well, probably not in Portland. Yuck.) to the light-weight totes that we had at DC10 (which are pretty popular in this area atm) to small little over the shoulder affairs like what we had at DC4 to actual messenger bags like DC13's. So, there's a wide variety, and deciding *if* we want a bag is probably more necessitated by deciding *what kind of bag* we want. > That said, it would be useful to have feedback from folks who managed > frontdesk for prior conferences, and understand whether the bags made > life easier, harder, or were a wash. I don't think it made life easier or harder. It was what it was; there logistics to be considered, though, in "stuffing" bags, but honestly, we'd have to consider those logistics no matter what because there will be swag to hand out. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Proposal for sponsorship levels (and registration fees) for DC14
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 02:20:08PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: > On 10/24/2013 01:49 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > >FWIW as a personal data point, I now have too many DebConf messenger bags > >and not enough DebConf reusable grocery bags... so I'd be in favor of the > >reusable grocery bag style again from DebConf 10. ;) > > +1, and very appropriate for Portland. And if we did this, it shouldn't be too hard to find people who have had reusable grocery bag styles made for their businesses locally, and get the contact information on who made them. The only concern I have is the 'attendee expectation' concern. Bear in mind that many attendees are used to receiving a bag of some sort that they can toss their laptop or devices in and wander around. These styles aren't made for that. Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] getting started on the DebConf14 website
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:55:33AM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: > Allison Randal writes: > > Here are a few variants. Just rough sketches, enough to get the general > > idea. When we hit on a favorite, I'll do it up properly. > I like the sky style one best, personally, but I like the swirl to the > left of the banner text on the squared tile one. The abstract one > doesn't do anything for me. +1 - I *love* the sky one; is it possible to incorporate the swirl logo into that style with Mt Hood and the Douglas Firs? <3 Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] getting started on the DebConf14 website
Allison Randal writes: > On 10/28/2013 09:31 AM, Allison Randal wrote: >> Indeed, easy enough. I originally had the debian swirl rising like the >> sun over Mt. Hood, but it ended up looking kind of dorky, so I removed >> it. But, just setting the swirl off to the side like the others will >> work out well. I'll send a preview shortly. > Updated: > http://www.lohutok.net/gallery/debconf14/sky_swirl_style_tile.png Looks good! Print it! Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] getting started on the DebConf14 website
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 04:06:39PM -0800, Allison Randal wrote: > The full site launched Thursday night. > http://debconf14.debconf.org I said it on IRC, but I'll say it again - thank you SO MUCH for your work on this. It looks fantastic!! > I'd appreciate any eyes to check out the pages, verify dates and > details, especially sponsorship levels (which I pulled from the > brochure-in-progress), or look for bad links. One bad link that I found, but it's the brochure-in-progress, so it's A Known Bug. > A couple of things I'd like to add: > - I think the "debian rosebud" from the full logo would look great > in the big dark-blue-box-banner on the main page. (Filling the same > slot as the bird in the dc12 pages.) I could use a copy of the > original Inkscape doc, so I can extract the rosebud from the logo > cleanly. That's a great idea. I was actually wondering how we could make the website and all our brochures/shirts/bags/whatever "theme" together well. I really think we should push the swirl rosebud. It's unqiue and, well, very Portland. ;) I'll send you the original Inkscape doc Matto sent our way earlier. > - I'd like to add a square "Become a Sponsor" banner into the > sponsors sidebar, to fill the space, and encourage sponsors to join. Sounds good - the more places to encourage people to sponsor, the better. Eventually, we'll be adding in more info about the conference proper (information about Portland, transportation, fun activities as well as registration information, which may be a 2 step process this year). I imagine most of this will be on the wiki,but don't forget to plan space for that at the very least. Thanks again, Allison! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Call for help : DC13 Final report
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 04:55:20PM +0100, Raphaël Walther wrote: > Thanks Brian for bringing this up again. If you have one hour and you write > English please consider helping us. It doesn't matter if you are or were in > the > DCn, DCn+1 or bid team. If you weren't at the event and you prefer not to > write you > can still help by reviewing draft from other, collect pictures and more. That said, please remember that English doesn't even have to be your native language. In fact, you can still write even if you don't feel you're very fluent in English. Americans do this all the time! :) (In all seriousness, we have proof-readers who will be happy to edit any copy provided to us.) Thanks, Raphaël! Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf local team work session: Wed Jan 22 @ 6pm, PSU campus
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 05:05:32PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi folks, > As discussed at the last team IRC meeting, I think it's time for us to kick > into high gear, and start having in-person work sessions to plow through our > todo list. > Bart Massey has agreed to host us for the first of these, this coming > Wednesday from 6pm to 8pm on the PSU campus. I believe this will be in the > College of Engineering building, on SW 4th & SW Harrison - exact room to be > determined (and announced ASAP). > There's a food cart pod right across the street, so the plan is to grab > dinner, bring it in, and get work done. :) > Hope to see you there! This meeting has happened. You can find the agenda and minutes on the DebConf14 Meetings wiki page[0]. Next f2f local meeting is schceduled for 12 Feb 2014, 6pm PST, PSU FAB 130. Next IRC global meeting is scheduled for 11 Feb 2014, 2000 UTC, #debconf-team. Cheers! Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Meetings -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf Team IRC Meeting 11 Feb 20 UTC
Hello, everyone! Just a friendly reminder (since everyone has different ideas of the best way to remind everyone of upcoming meetings) that our global DebConf IRC meeting is next week: 11 Feb 2014 at 20:00 UTC In preparation for the meeting, please have a look at the DebConf13 Final Report[0], and previous meeting minutes[1]. For locals, we have a face-to-face meeting the next day, Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 at 6:30pm PST at PSU, FAB room 130. Meeting information can also be found in the ical feed[2]. Any questions? Feel free to ask on-list or in the IRC channel. Love and bunnies, Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/FinalReport [1] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Meetings [2] http://www.debconf.org/calendars/DebConf-team.ics -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DC14 C&W venue status
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:30:23PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The party will NOT be on campus. Alcohol can only be served at on-campus > events by the university's designated caterers (who send out licensed > bartenders). I'm sure you can see how this is not compatible with the C&W > party we've all come to know and love. :) Although, it might be entertaining to see the look of horror on Aramark employees' faces while trying to control the cheese & wine party. Snort. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Notes from reviewing bids. (And questions for teams)
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:55:33PM +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > On 18 February 2014 12:36, Brian Gupta wrote: > > I touched on this earlier, but please understand, that presenting more > > than one option seems like it would make the job of those making the > > decision much more difficult. > One option to simplify the process would be for all involved to simply > consider Munich and Heidelberg to be two independent bids with an > overlapping local team. That will make the choice a bit harder as we > would have one bid, but it would make each individual bid easier to > evaluate and compare. > This would also meant the the choice of the preferred German venue > would be removed from the local team, unless they withdraw one of the > options before the final decision meeting. Alternatively, for the German team to win the bid and retain autonomy on deciding between Munich and Heidelberg (and be able to play the cities off each other for better pricings), *both* German venue options would have to outweigh other the bids. In other words, Munich and Heidelberg would have to be selected as superior bids to Mechelen and Karlskrona. -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Updates regarding the Swedish bid
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 07:17:11PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez [2014-03-04 18:38 +0100]:
> > DC16 is closer :)
> Assuming we get equivalent bids from the Americas and Scandinavia
> for DC16, would the committee favour the former because
> traditionally, {DCx | x%2==0} has been on the other side of the
> ocean?
The fundamental thought process behind having DebConf transition between the
2 hemispheres is to make it a little more reasonable for more Debian
Developers to be able to make a conference that otherwise wouldn't be able
to attend because of travel issues.
I think if we don't have a strong "Americas" bid for DC16, we should
certainly entertain any genuine and viable options, but I sincerely prefer
alternating as we have been doing.
That said, I think an Asia or Australian bid should be considered regardless
of what year cycle we're on.
Patty
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[Debconf-team] Upcoming DebConf14 Team Meetings
Hello, everyone! Just a friendly reminder that we have the monthly DebConf14 Global team IRC meeting Tuesday at 20:00UTC and the DebConf14 face-to-face meeting at 130 FAB, PSU 6:30pm PST on Wednesday. Previous agendas and planned future agendas can be found at the Meetings page[0]. I meant to get the reminders out last week, but lost track of time. Everyone already has the times saved to various calendars[1], right? ;) Thanks, and I look forward to hearing from everyone soon! Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Meetings [1] http://www.debconf.org/calendars/DebConf-team.ics -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Upcoming DebConf14 Team Meetings
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:27:44AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > Hello, everyone! > Just a friendly reminder that we have the monthly DebConf14 Global team IRC > meeting Tuesday at 20:00UTC and the DebConf14 face-to-face meeting at 130 > FAB, PSU 6:30pm PST on Wednesday. And Steve reminded me that we had Daylight Savings Time over the weekend, so now my math will forever be off (or at least until DST ends) for time zone calulations. THe meeting tomorrow is 1200 PST, which is *1900 UTC*, not 2000 like I posted earlier. All the more reason to: > already has the times saved to various calendars[1], right? ;) > [1] http://www.debconf.org/calendars/DebConf-team.ics Sorry for any confusion! Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Upcoming DebConf14 Team Meetings
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:20:59PM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:27:44AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > > Hello, everyone! > > Just a friendly reminder that we have the monthly DebConf14 Global team IRC > > meeting Tuesday at 20:00UTC and the DebConf14 face-to-face meeting at 130 > > FAB, PSU 6:30pm PST on Wednesday. > And Steve reminded me that we had Daylight Savings Time over the weekend, so > now my math will forever be off (or at least until DST ends) for time zone > calulations. THe meeting tomorrow is 1200 PST, which is *1900 UTC*, not 2000 > like I posted earlier. All the more reason to: Global meeting minutes are published[0]. You may want to check if you have action items. Lack of attendance does not always mean things won't be assigned to you. (People don't hide from me that easily.) :) iCal continues to update for proper time zones (or so I've been told).[1] Face-to-face meeting is still scheduled for tomorrow at 130 FAB at PSU. Cheers! Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Meetings [1] http://www.debconf.org/calendars/DebConf-team.ics ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] CALLING ALL VOLUNTEERS
Hello world, Please help us! The sponsorship team has many leads to follow up on, and not enough people to follow the leads. We would greatly appreciate any and all help anyone can provide to help us meet and exceed our budget this year. As was discussed at the global IRC meeting yesterday, sponsorship shortfalls will mean needing to trim the budget, and right now, the likely trimming will come from bursaries. I want to ensure as many people who need sponsorship to attend DebConf14 can get it, so please help us make sure we don't have to make those hard decisions. Thank you, and I look forward to seeing everyone in Portland in 5.5 months! Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Upcoming DebConf14 Team Meetings
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:28:51PM -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote: > 1200 PST is 2000 UTC > 1200 PDT is 1900 UTC > #pedantic I will forever just declare time to be in PDX and let y'all figure it out. It's safer that way. :D -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] close debconf15-team@l.d.o ?
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 02:00:06PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Dienstag, 18. März 2014, martin f krafft wrote: > > Please keep the two separate. > No. While it's unavoidable that those two teams exist in the beginning, we > want them to merge ASAP. So it's best to close the localteam list ASAP too. I absolutely disagree. We have 2 completely different teams organizing 2 different events in 2 different timelines. While the overall goals are the same, we're only going to get in each others' way the closer we get to the DC14 dates. As it is, I currently can't follow the discussions on #debconf-team *because* of the channel take-over for next year's event. So, it's best to keep the localteam list active until DC14 concludes. Cheers! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Updated budget for DC14
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 08:56:04PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Steve Langasek [2014-03-27 20:52 +0100]: > > And to any members of the DC15 team who may be reading this with > > alarm: […] So there's a very good chance that a sizable portion of > > this bursaries allocation will be yours next year, no matter what > > else happens. :) > We'll believe it when we see it ;) Considering the amazing amount of heated (and sometimes hostile) debate surrounding this issue, I find this response to be extremely unhelpful, unnecessary and inflammatory. Please try to keep on topic for conference organization and keep such trolling comments restricted to private conversations. Thank you, Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Updated budget for DC14
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 03:45:10PM +0100, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 03:35:59PM +0100, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > > > Without taking any position in the recent debate over the use of > > > Debian money to sponsor DebConf, I would even go as far as saying > > > that Debian should always make sure there's a day trip. > > That's based in your personal experience and preference only. I have seen > > plenty of people skipping the day trip every year. I know because I was > > one of them. > > The good thing is this is something we can measure, and check the numbers > > the approx. numbers of how many people benefited of the daytrip and how > > many people benefit of the daytrip in previous years. > I meant to say: > ..."and how many people benefined of the conference dinner in previous years." Being one of the more biased people here in regards to the daytrip (I was one of the catalysts that started the "tradition" at DC4, and then directly responsible for making a day trip happen at DC7 (thanks, Moray), and apparently somewhat involved in DC10 (still unsure how that happened) and have been a pretty consistent proponent of DayTrips since 2004 in general), it's also my personal experience and preference for the reasons Lucas has outline and even what Martin is saying here. The daytrip has become a very important social aspect of DebConf. It's not *the only* social aspect, and we know not everyone will attend (and *actually, for DC14, I'm kinda banking on people not going so I can plan out *the conference dinner of my dreams). I've had MULTIPLE people who have *attended the daytrip comment that it gave them a much needed break from the *monotony of a conference and get a chance to actually work with other *developers in a much more laid-back manner. Even when they were required to *pay their own way on the daytrip (DC7), people were still overwhelmingly *pleased with it. Does everyone go on the daytrip? No, I've already said as much. In fact, we only see about 55-70% participation generally. But, then again, many active Debian Developers never actually go to DebConf, but we still consider DebConf a vital contribution to Debian, and the participation percentage would be much, much lower there. I would like to point out that we're planning a slightly extended conference (time-frame wise) this year, what with replacing DebCamp with a few more days of talks and hack time. With that extension, I think the daytrip is even *more* important to give people a chance to actually build comraderie. It will, as it always has been, be voluntary, and it will most definitely be low-key this year, and will depend on our fund-raising efforts (hint: IF YOU WANT A DAYTRIP, JOIN THE SPONSORSHIP TEAM). But, I would argue that it most certainly *is* useful and benefical to DebConf. Love and bunnies, Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@debian.org -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Updated budget for DC14
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 07:51:44PM +0200, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:22:19AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > me, they are all very memorable. I can still give you some great > > social and environmental highlights of all of the daytrips I have been > > to. > Which leads again to: That's based in your personal experience. > We have an enormous amount of data in penta from dc7 to dc13. I have seen > a thread about data-mining this data. Shouldn't we use this data to plan > the budget instead of based on the personal preferences and experience of > the self-selected group of people participating on this list? > Some survey to the wider contributors community on top of this would be > great, but I'm aware this means a lot of work. The problem is, with the wider information gathered and the "personal experience opinions" expressed, it's pretty blatently clear that data-mining doesn't really give a good estimation of how beneficial the day trip is for the conference at large. BDale called me on a mispeak ealier when I said the conference was monotonous. He's right - it's not monotonous; it's intense, which can lead to talks and sesisons blurring into each other without much break for people to just ... *be*. The conference dinner being just another dinner, for better or worse, is also something that we can't take into account with our numbers from Penta, unless you want to look very specifically at DC13, where people had to go off-site for the formal dinner. In which case, the percentage of people who went to the formal dinner and *not* on the daytrip wasn't significantly more (and, in fact, if you factor in the people who split from the daytrip activities and did their own thing, read: CERN, you'll find the percentage is even *closer*). So, *that* in of itself leads me to believe that the conference dinner was of no more importance to the attendees (at DC13) than the daytrip itself. My point here is that I don't think datamining is going to give us an accurate representatation of the overall value of a daytrip vs conference dinner in the budget. What I *can* tell you (as the person who's working on planning both), I had my budgets flipped around. My daytrip is *far* less expensive than a formal conference dinner (off-site) would be (costs ranging from ~$6k USD for daytrip and $12k USD for conference dinner when including the site costs if we don't host at PSU). -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:56:05PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > from a budget point of view, the daytrip can easily be made in a way that it > doesnt cost the organizers any (additional) money. We've paid bus fares > ourselves (as attendees) in the past and can do that again and then we just > go > to some nice place in the countryside and have a picknick there, and voila, > splendid daytip with awesome memories - without a budget, except for food, > which we would have to pay anyway. That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied by waterfalls. But, absolutely. The daytrip doesn't have to be extravagant (and *won't* be this year). And I think we've worked too hard previously in trying to one-up the last daytrip experience (sorry, I'm not going to try to compete with CERN - cate wins that contest hands down), and I'm hoping people will be content with a very low-key, outdoorsy, as-active-as-you'd-like-to-be daytrip this year. > (I'm all for having the conf pay the full daytrip but if thats not possible, > it's not possible.) The daytrip is actually not a terribly expensive thing this year (just cost of coaches). My bigger concern is I underestimated how much it was going to cost to have a conference dinner. The good news there is I've come up with a pretty good (and potentially fun) idea that won't go over the budget *too* much, and since I'm staying well under the daytrip budget, might even be able to petition to have funds reallocated (assuming they're there). > Others have already explained why+how the daytrip is tremendously useful, I > wont go much into this here, I just want to state that from a videoteam point > of view it's really nice to have a day off and be able to talk with and not > to > people :-) You can ask DC7, DC10 and DC6 teams - the main organizers were also happy to have people off-site for a day so they could have a much needed breather. I received just as many expressions of gratitude from the DC7 organizers who *didn't* go on the daytrip as I did from the attendees who *did* go on the *daytrip. It was ... kinda surreal. :) Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Upcoming DebConf Team Meetings
Hello, everyone! Just a friendly reminder that we have our global IRC meeting coming up next week. We adjusted the time slightly to accommodate my change in class schedule (thank you!). The IRC meeting will be at Tuesday, April 8 @ 1830 UTC in #debconf-team on OFTC. (This is intended to be 11:30 am PDT, just in case my time conversion fu is not working.) Our agenda can be found at the usual place[0]. Please take a moment to look over last month's global Minutes[1] to ensure you've completed what you need to from last month's action items. If you haven't set up iCal[2], please consider doing so to keep up to date on any schedule changes. Thanks, loves! Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Meetings [1] http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2014/debconf-team.2014-03-11-19.00.html [2] http://www.debconf.org/calendars/DebConf-team.ics -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@debian.org -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] IRC meeting minutes
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 09:54:38AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > Here's what dc13 had. I've added some notes marked by "*": > "DebCamp" > DebCamp > I won't be attending DebCamp > I have a specific work plan for DebCamp > I don't have a specific plan for DebCamp (payment required) > DebCamp work plan > text box This section can be removed entirely. > "Sponsorship" > What are you doing for Debian? Why do you request sponsorship? > text box > How will your attending this DebConf benefit Debian? > text box > Why do you request help paying for your costs? > text box Perhaps update phrasing, but this section is essential for launch. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] registration metadata
Resending since apparently my pre-coffee mastery of mutt at ungodly hours of the morning leaves some to be desired. Sorry - meant to include both lists with my reply. On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 08:01:03AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:07:25PM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > > On 10.04.2014 21:58, Steve Langasek wrote: > > >> "Phone number" > > > >> Phone type > > >> (multi-drop down) > > >> mobile > > >> secretary > > >> work > > >> private > > >> dect > > >> skype > > >> fax > > >> sip > > >> Phone number > > >> text field > > > > I'm not aware if we've ever used this. I suspect that we probably > > only need > > > one contact phone number per person. > > > registration: did you ever used them? > > I am not aware of ever needing to have used this contact information. For > emergency purposes, though, having a way to contact the attendee on the > phone is pretty important. > > I think just a phone number field (broken into 2 fields, actually, with > country code and then phone number) is sufficient. > > Nattie can correct me if I'm wrong (and she's monitoring this). > > > >> "Emergency Contact" > > > >> Name > > >> text field > > >> Way of contact > > >> text field > > > > Should be retained > > Absolutely agreed. > > > Patty > > -- > -- > > Patty Langasek > harmo...@dodds.net > > -- > > At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be > sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always > there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your > passion takes you. > --- J. Michael Straczynski > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debconf14-team-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140411150103.ga26...@becquer.dodds.net -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] registration metadata
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:04:56PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. I've tried to capture the current state of the > requirements in the wiki: > https://wiki.debconf.org/action/edit/DebConf14/Registration > I'll keep it up to date as the discussion here progresses. Please discuss > on the list before making any changes; and if no one objects to the > proposals, silence will be taken for assent. ;) > The only piece that I think still needs to be fleshed out is which fields > are required or not. I'm getting a crash course in Django (I haven't had the kool aid yet, but then again, nobody's gotten hurt, but I will say that I understand why Django developers drink), I decided that our current organization of the information is very confusing, so I'm currently working on trying to find groupings that actually make sense in the data collection. (What makes more sense in terms of flow from a user experience as you're filling out the form.) I'm updating the wiki page with a better flow, and I really think as we get going, we should break the registration up into definite sections. I propose: Profile Contact On a note of the address - I don't understand the need for the "Post Office box" field. This seems unnecessary considering we will have the traditional 2 address lines; can this be removed? Conference *Move Sponsorship to be before Travel information* Again, make it clear this information can be edited, and give sponsorship *request deadlines loud and proud on it. This section will need to be uneditable once the sponsorship deadline has *passed. Travel * maybe we should make it clear that people can come back and adjust/edit * the information once they have their flights booked. Just a blurb about * it? Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Time to Gather Bursaries Team
ime organizer nor attendee. You don't have to be a many-years-long DD. We want the group to be diverse, and that *surely* includes people that simply are not in the same intra-Debian demographic group that most of us are. So, if you want to be a part of the team, please mail lists.debconf.org (and to make it easier to stay in the right thread, please reference Message-ID <20130507213815.ga56...@gwolf.org>) letting us know. We are aiming at enlarging the group. I expect a group of ~15 people to be large enough, but not too large (and that is roughly double what we have had so far). - End forwarded message - -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Meeting Tonight!
Good morning, everyone! A quick (very late) reminder that we have our local face-to-face team meeting tonight at PSU, room 130 FAB at 6:30. I meant to send out the reminder last week, but apparently snoozing my reminders for these send-outs results in the same behavior as snoozing my alarm for getting ready for work. (Who would have realized such a strong correlation?) Anyway! Tonight! 6:30pm! PSU! FAB 130! I'll confirm up the agenda after my exam today, but it will probably be a work session on Summit hacking/confirming deadlines/working on fleshing out our wiki. Cheers, Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Code of Conduct
Hello! We were recently asked to provide a Code of Conduct for DebConf. Due to issues at other conferences, a written and enforcable Code of Conduct has become the standard for other open source events. We're very fortunate that we've not really needed one to the point, and I'm happy to spell out expectations to continue the trend. I've started piecing together a template for the DebConf (universal, note, not DebConf14) Code of Conduct[0] that builds on the excellent CoC from DC13[1] as well as the CoC from LCA[2] and that also clearly defines Debian's Diversity Statement[3] and *Debian's* Code of Conduct[4]. Please note that while Debian's Code of Conduct is great, we need to be very explicit about interactions when people are actually face-to-face. I appreciate any feedback on list, and on the wiki. Once we've come to an agreed upon CoC (or in 2 weeks, whichever happens first, and barring any serious concerns), I'll have it added to the main conference page and pushed into the git repo for use for other Debian events. Cheers! Patty [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/CodeofConduct [1] http://debconf13.debconf.org/register.xhtml [2] https://github.com/linuxaustralia/constitution_and_policies/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md [3] https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity [4] https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_002 P.S. madduck: No. -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Request to Adjust Budget for Social Events
Hello! I made a couple of pretty awful mistakes when estimating the day trip and conference dinner. I'd like to transfer a little of the budget from the day trip to help fund the conference dinner. == The Good == The good news is that the day trip is going to be *significantly* cheaper than we'd estimated (owing to the fact that we only need to hire coaches and get a park permit for a picnic and we expect DDs to entertain themselves in the meantime). == The Bad == The bad news is I woefully underestimated how complicated it is to feed 300+ people in one sitting. So, ah, my estimates of how much it would cost were pretty off base. By a lot. Whoops. == The Ugly == Because early fund-raising efforts were indicating we probably wouldn't get either the day trip or conference dinner (let alone both!) funded, I didn't put much effort into correcting the budget. The numbers total were pretty close to what the combined events would be, but I have been asked to discuss adjusting the line items and make sure everyone is happy with the costs since our fund-raising efforts are very likely going to make these events possible. (Go sponsorship team!) So, for the Daytrip, we'd budgeted $14,784 USD If we took EVERYONE on the Daytrip, we'd need 6 coaches (this is a gross over-estimation; not EVERYONE ever goes on the Daytrip, and I sincerely doubt EVERYONE will go on the Daytrip this time, either, though I've been very wrong about this in the past[0]), for a total of $5,000 USD, plus a park permit[1] at $310 USD. Lunch is already factored into our conference meal plan (we'd get sack lunches from PSU). I estimate our Daytrip to cost $5310 USD, which is -$9474 USD of budget. I'm trying to get a hold on one of our local chain breweries that has some pretty awesome event spaces[2], and was told that dinner through them would be $33 per person. If we meet a certain minimum (which we would exceed) with our food costs, the rental space would be covered. They have some potential concert conflicts the week of our conference, so if I'm going to try to get a hold on the facility, I need to act *very soon*, or go to my Plan B (which is still in development stages). Please note that our meal contract with PSU assumes we will have one main dinner off-site. If we end up not having a conference dinner, our food costs will be over-budget (slightly). The conference dinner, we'd budgeted $5600 USD Assuming 300 people for the conference dinner, $33/person would be $9900. Because the facility is a bit out of the way, we may also need to investigate hiring a coach (or 2) or investing in public transportation tickets to get people there (it's a 20 minute walk otherwise). My Plan B will not require transportation, but is likely to fall into the same price range as McMenamin's Crystal Ballroom (quoted above). My backup plan is to get another park permit (near campus), close it off and hire someone (food truck? caterer?) to provide a BBQ for the group. I estimate our Conference Dinner to cost $9900 USD (NOT INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION), which is +4300 USD of budget. I request that $4500 USD be transferred from the day trip budget to the conference dinner budget. I'm trying to pad the conference dinner budget just a bit just in case I missed something else. The remaining $4974 overage I would suggest leaving with the Day Trip just in case we decide to do something other than a trip up the Gorge. Thank you! Patty [0] http://fvinnash.livejournal.com/202289.html [1] http://www.oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPage&parkId=126 [2] http://www.mcmenamins.com/CrystalBallroom -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Code of Conduct
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 12:48:29PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Anthony Towns [2014-05-02 11:40 +0200]:
> > This means no swearing on this list, or in talks ("so yeah,
> > I tried that and royally firetrucked stuff up"), right?
> I would strongly advocate to keep a no-swearing default. First of
> all, I think it raises the quality altogether if people concentrate
> a bit more on what they say in public.
+1
Nobody's saying you can't say privately (PRIVATELY) to another developer "I
tried that and royall firetrucked stuff up", what we're saying is dropping
the 'F' bomb several times in as many minutes during a talk is unacceptable.
Besides. Saying that you royally firetrucked stuff up is so much more
awesome than actually dropping the "F" bomb.
In fact, I'm going to start using that myself.
> Second, I don't think we are far off anyway, DebConf has IMHO been
> mostly decent.
Agreed.
> And third, swearing "accidentally" won't get you expelled, but we
> might raise a finger. I think this is good and after half a dozen
> times, everyone will grow more and more conscious.
> If we give ourselves a CoC, we might just as well do it right and
> enact what we promise. ;)
Exactly. And we're not asking people to change who they are or overly censor
themselves; we're asking them to maintain a social propriety while
representing Debian in the public eye.
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Re: [Debconf-team] Request to Adjust Budget for Social Events
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 09:13:50AM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2014-05-02 20:19, Steve Langasek wrote: > If other items in the budget/fundraising don't go to plan, up to > when could we cancel the dinner without losing the full price (or a > high portion of it)? And up to what point can we adjust it for a > smaller number without losing money? Nonrefundable depost of 15% for Crystal Ballroom (if I can get a hold at this point), with a 30 day window from the time of getting the facility held and needing to pay the deposit. The minimum amount for food and beverage to not have rental fees on this facility is $5000, making the nonrefundable deposit of $750. (We'll easily exceed the food and beverage minimum at $33 per person. They'll have a bar in the room that will serve beer and wine at a minimum, neither of which is included in the buffet price.) > But, yes, in itself this adjustment sounds fine to me, merely > changing figures between items to match up with the reality of > what's available. I would only note that actual spending of funds > on budget items should be done in the order agreed in March. I will contact them and see if we can get the space sometime in that week, then! Thanks, Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Sponsorship for GSoC students attending DebConf
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 02:50:20PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > [Please keep Sylvestre and myself Cc'd] > Hi folks, > I'm contacting you, as a GSoC admin, in order to arrange for this year's > students stay at DebConf. Hi, Nicolas! > As you know, each and every year we try our best to have the GSoC students > engage with the Debian community at large, and what best opportunity is there > than having them attend DebConf? I know for a fact that last year's attendees > had a great (and productive) time. Furthermore, this year's edition pretty > much > coincides with the end of the GSoC schedule, which means that it comes at a > perfect time for students to get on a stage and talk about what they have done > for Debian during the summer! > As was done in the past, Google has offered us to reimburse the GSoC students > for their travel expenses to attend the conference. We therefore are looking > for sponsorship of their food and accomodation costs only. Thanks for reaching out to us - our sponsorship application deadline is quickly approaching (15 May), so please have those students register for DebConf14 at: https://summit.debconf.org before that deadline so we can fold them into our sponsorship awards. Please have them indicate in the requests for sponsorship questions that they are GSOC students and that Google is already sponsoring travel. Our bursaries team will have decisions made by the end of the month, but step 1 is to get all the students registered in time so they are eligible for sponsorship consideration. Thank you so much! Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Global DC14 IRC Meeting Tomorrow!
Just for those who don't have the DebConf meeting in their calendars yet, this is a gentle reminder that we have a global IRC meeting tomorrow at 1830 UTC in #debconf-team. The next local team face-to-face meeting is TUESDAY 20 May, 130 FAB. See y'all then! Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debconf14-team-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140512175754.gb15...@becquer.dodds.net ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DC14: setup team, sponsorship, and volunteers: how to decide?
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:56:50PM -0700, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > > No I would not, but I would probably identify the important ones for > > each team, as you and Gunnar suggest, and I would also take it up > > with the other volunteers and get a feel for how reliable their > > "promise to volunteer" is. We don't want people willing to > > volunteer, we need people with self-initiative who can drive things, > > right? We do, and there are several volunteers who have been "around the block" so to speak with DebConf year after year, who make running the conference much smoother because they don't have to reinvent the wheel every year. I know I can come up with a few off the top of my head, and if I had a chance to brainstorm with a couple of them, could probably fill out at least the "leads" of the volunteer teams. Would it help if I did this within the next couple of days to help Bursaries get a leg up on how to prioritize any sponsorship requests from them? (There are a couple on my list I consider essential for the smooth conference.) > Well FWIW the self starters are likely already involved. My experience with > conferences and promises to volunteer is that it is hard to measure promises > unless you know the person. It is, and we've experienced that ourselves with DebConf. Every year we talk about how we need to evaluate the "value" of the volunteers in question, and how to ensure they actually fulfill promises they made for us to help bring them to the conference proper. Unfortunately, each year, we are unable to get anything implemented in time to make a difference. But, for each team, there is a core group of volunteers who pretty much have an idea of who has helped in the past, and who hasn't. I don't think it'd be amiss for the bursaries team to approach those core volunteers (myself included) for more information. > I suggest using current contributions and total cost of request as the heavy > measurement and minimal consideration to any offer to volunteer. I must respectfully disagree. When it comes to the core group of volunteers, many of them might not be actively contributing to Debian outside of DebConf, and the contributions they make to DebConf are just as valuable. These efforts have a tendency to be very invisible, but extremely essential. And, as I discussed above, some of the volunteer efforts are *necessary* for a smooth-running conference. Like I said, if it helps bursaries to get a list of essential volunteers together, I can easily have that within the next few days. Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] A proposal about scheduling for DC14
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 01:33:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Is there somewhere in Portland that'd be good for unofficial debcamp hacking > for a few days before debcamp? Depending on the number of people, we could find something for hack space (I could speak with a couple of our speakers for some hackspace), for accommodations, we could look at University Place, though the rates for the rooms will be higher than the dorms, they'd be available (though about a 20 minute walk/10-15 minute mass transit ride from the sponsors' location). Lots of people? We may want to prod Lucas about doing a sprint for a group and I can negotiate with University Place to get us some space (I have MUCH built up kharma with them. Lots.). Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] A proposal about scheduling for DC14
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 01:34:58PM -0700, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > Fri, August 22: Arrival day. Dorm check in available after noon. > Minimal hacklabs. No talks. > Sat, August 23: First day of conference. Opening immediately > after > brunch. Slots for 4 talks afterwards (inc DPL). > Sun, August 24: Full day of talks; start post brunch, 15 slots. > Mon, August 25: Full day of talks. 18 slots. > Tue, August 26: Full day of talks. 18 slots. > Wed, August 27: Day trip > Thu, August 28: Hack day. BOFs either side of lunch (6 slots). > Fri, August 29: Hack day. BOFs either side of lunch (6 slots). > Sat, August 30: Hack day. BOFs post brunch (3 slots). > Sun, August 31: Last day of conference. Post brunch lightning > talks (1hr30?), closing plenary, done by 4pm. > Hacklabs open. > Mon, September 1: Leaving day. No hacklabs, leave rooms by noon. > I think the important people who need to say that this works for them > are the talks and video teams. Getting a quick agreement on this will > help those trying to get their tickets booked; I will assume if I don't > hear anything in the next week that this works for everyone. I think this plan is great. I was going to recommend interspersing BOFs more at the beginning of the week, but I don't think that'll be as beneficial as bracketing the BOFs with hacktime. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] A proposal about scheduling for DC14
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:02:34AM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > FWIW: I'm quite happy that the German team is going to fix what I > consider a grave bug. > (Just saying to support the DC15 team, not wanting to interfer with > DC14.) And so it begins. -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debian-portland-soc] Meeting Reminder!
And in my next trick, I'll actually give you the link that I referenced! [0] http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Meetings On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:21:45AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > Hello, everyone! > > Just a friendly reminder of our upcoming meetings. [0] > > We have a global IRC meeting on Tuesday, 3 June at 1830 UTC, on > #debconf-team. > > We have a local meeting same day at Lucky Lab in SE at 1830 PDT. > > We also have another local meeting at Lucky Lab in SE on 17 June at 1830 > PDT. I'll send a reminder (hopefully) the week before as well. > > If you have agenda items, please make sure they get added to the meeting > page. Otherwise, see you there! > > Patty > -- > -- > > Patty Langasek > harmo...@dodds.net > > -- > > At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be > sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always > there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your > passion takes you. > --- J. Michael Straczynski > ___ > Debian-portland-soc mailing list > debian-portland-...@pdx.debian.net > http://pdx.debian.net/mailman/listinfo/debian-portland-soc -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debian-portland-soc mailing list debian-portland-...@pdx.debian.net http://pdx.debian.net/mailman/listinfo/debian-portland-soc ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] [Debian-portland-soc] Meeting Reminder!
Hello, everyone! Just a friendly reminder of our upcoming meetings. [0] We have a global IRC meeting on Tuesday, 3 June at 1830 UTC, on #debconf-team. We have a local meeting same day at Lucky Lab in SE at 1830 PDT. We also have another local meeting at Lucky Lab in SE on 17 June at 1830 PDT. I'll send a reminder (hopefully) the week before as well. If you have agenda items, please make sure they get added to the meeting page. Otherwise, see you there! Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debian-portland-soc mailing list debian-portland-...@pdx.debian.net http://pdx.debian.net/mailman/listinfo/debian-portland-soc ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 04:23:19PM -0700, Gerald Turner wrote: > I have friend that's offering to loan a bunch of gear left over from a > warehouse tear-down that his work performed last year. The equipment > was originally installed in 2009, so probably no fancy 802.11n/HT. > * Several Motorola WS5100 controllers. > * Couple dozen (or more) AP-300 access points. > * Bunch of Cisco Catalyst 2960s and some 3560s (non-GigE) but they all >have at least two 1gbps ports. > The gear is in Tualatin, perhaps I could go pick up a controller and an > AP and bring it to Lucky Labs next Tuesday so we can observe whether > it's too enterprisey. I actually live not too far from (some) of Tualatin. I can also help ferry things without it being out of my way. (West side is my neck of the woods, yo.) -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf14 DayTrip
Hello, everyone! Because August is fast approaching, and August is also the busiest month of the year for tourism, I snagged some reservations for our day trip. My plan for the daytrip is to bus everyone out to the Columbia River Gorge[0], have a picnic lunch at Rooster Rock State Park[1] and view Vista House [2] and Multnomah Falls [3] as the highlights of site-seeing. For the more adventurous, I'm working on convincing one of our friends out here to lead a moderate few hour hike (or 2) through the gorge. Soon, I'll have a wiki page up for people to give me feedback so I can try to guess how many people are interested in what kind of things. If people want to scrap the Gorge idea, we can try to come up with something else. As it is, though, I'm pretty excited for this daytrip. For those concerned about accessibility, all aspects (except the hike) will be handicap accessible. Patty [0] http://www.fs.usda.gov/crgnsa [1] http://www.oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPage&parkId=126 [2] http://vistahouse.com [3] http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/crgnsa/home/?cid=stelprdb5139466 -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 DayTrip
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:36:07PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Thanks for working on the daytrip. IMHO this will be a very fine daytrip > with a diversity of options. Quite welcome! I'm actually excited to be able to plan a daytrip with an actual *budget* this time! It's novel! :D -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] A proposal about scheduling for DC14
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:38:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So, yes, if we have to decide between three days of mostly-hackning > (read: What was previously known as DebCamp) and three days of > mostly-conference (read: What was previously known as DebConf), I > think the point pushed by the local team about DebCamp not being a net > benefit for Debian would defeat itself. Interleaving mostly-talks and > mostly-hacking days would at least introduce a change that could in > some way be evaluated. I don't believe that the point "pushed by the local team about DebCamp not being a net benefit for Debian would defeat itself", because that doesn't take into account how we attempted to restructure "DebCamp" to ensure more people could participate without increasing a cost to Debian. DebCamp is expensive. DebCamp, as it existed, had no way to ensure those who were attending were held accountable for being hosted, on Debian funds, to collaborate with others. And, as an organizer, I've received multiple complaints from people who *fully expected* to be able to collaborate with others who were hosted at a DebCamp, and the others were no where to be found, and the report back was that they were indeed *not* hacking. I know this is not true for everyone, but this is most certainly a case where a few people have "ruined" the situation for everyone, and we *need* to find a way to actually make this work. I will point out that I have REPEATEDLY offered to help organize any sprints that people would like to have in Portland before (or after) the conference proper, and Lucas has offered to sign off on any of those sprints. To my knowledge, NOBODY has gone through the process to request a sprint. This suggests to me that DebCamp really was more about convenience than actually planning on collaboration. So, the local team for DC14 chose to attempt to incorporate DebCamp *into* DebConf to address this issue. If it will work or not is what we'll see after August. And, quite frankly, I'm extremely insulted by the attitude of those who have been crying out about the lack of a DebCamp and declaring that the lack is a "bug" from DC14's planning, but haven't been bothered to even *apply* for a sprint. If this were sincerely about needing to collaborate, I would expect at least one sprint to be requested. None have. NONE. NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE. If DebCamp is that sincerely important to your team, or coordination of a couple of teams, REQUEST A SPRINT FROM LUCAS. CLEARLY if DebCamp was so important, we would be OVERWHELMED with sprint requests! But, we haven't. So, please help us figure out how to actually incorporate *hacking* with *talks*. Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Code of Conduct
Top posting because I'm restarting the conversation and don't want to get distracted by declaring the awesomeness that is RichiH's response. Richard, I'm so happy you responded as below. And, as much as it made me hem, haw, and reevaluate my mission here (:)), I'm glad enrico expressed his concerns as well (and madduck). In fact, these viewpoints are what stayed my hand in pushing forward (temporarily). However... I've adjusted the Code of Conduct on the wiki page[0] to include RichiH's suggestions (because they were most excellent), and I've also added the following as my thoughts on the matter (as to why I still feel this is a benefit to our conference). I appreciate enrico's concerns, and in extension, madduck's concerns, and I would encourage them both to understand that the Code of Conduct is not meant to alienate regular, respectful attendees. It's unfortunate that we are in a situation, globally, where a code of conduct must become commonplace, but if we wish to promote diversity and promise a safe environment, we should feel no shame to make our expectations and the consequences of meeting those expectations publicly known. Which is all that anyone is asking. I view the situation as two-fold: 1. We affirm our commitment to safety in diversity and being welcoming of everyone. 2. We celebrate those who already hold to this code of conduct WITHOUT being told in advance. I'm sincerely proud of the Debian community for not having required this statement in its history of conferences. This community has always been warm and welcoming to me, which is why I am now a Debian Developer. If I can help others appreciate and feel welcome in Debian with a simple statement of how we already behave, I'm happy to do so. Acknowledging the concerns stated, I've also edited the opening paragraph to better explain *why* this code of conduct came into being: DebConf, as part of the greater Debian Community, assumes good faith on all those who wish to improve Debian. However, other experiences at other conferences have shown us the need to adopt a Code of Conduct in which we state our expectations of all attendees and organizers during the Debian Conference. I have also added the Debian Project Code of Conduct to the page. I still welcome feedback, but wish to continue persuing a formal Code of Conduct for our conferences. [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/CodeofConduct On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:47:58PM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On May 2, 2014 2:49 PM, "Enrico Zini" wrote: > > > [Good stuff] > > I agree. To me, the CoC is a safety net and reference which exists, but should > not be invoked just so. It's there if you really need it but DebConf as a > social entity should be able to self-regulate in most if not all cases. > > Richard, > Who just thought of delightfully evil Mao rules > > PS: Maybe we need a talk named "Seven words you can't say at DebConf" ;) > > Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. > > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Prices?
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 04:00:05AM +, Solveig wrote: > Well, it's probably too late, but it's still interesting to know how > much it would cost, it's always possible a sponsor wants to improve > Debian's accessibility :) And there seems to be Debconf in the US every > few years, so worst case the information is useful for future organizers. Actually, in the 15 year history of DebConf, this is only the second time that it has happened in the US. I'm currently unaware of any other US-based teams that are considering organizing in the future. Naturally, this could change, but it's unlikely. -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 DayTrip
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 06:39:48AM -0700, John Bartley K7AAY j...@503bartley.com wrote: > Nature is nice, but a pub crawl led off by a tour of the USS Blueback at OHSU > may also be of merit. What say you all? Well, you might be disappointed if you go to OHSU[0] (a teaching hospital) since the USS Blueblack is at OMSI[1] (a museum). :) You're welcome to do this on the daytrip day instead of the gorge if you wish. Public transportation[2] can pretty easily get you to many pubs and OMSI. Patty [0] http://www.ohsu.edu [1] https://www.omsi.edu [2] http://trimet.org -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] A proposal about scheduling for DC14
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:27:26AM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:03:33 -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > > And, quite frankly, I'm extremely insulted by the attitude of those who have > > been crying out about the lack of a DebCamp and declaring that the lack is a > > "bug" from DC14's planning, but haven't been bothered to even *apply* for a > > sprint. If this were sincerely about needing to collaborate, I would expect > > at least one sprint to be requested. None have. NONE. NOT. A. SINGLE. > > ONE. > I'm aware of two attempts to organize sprints; of course there might > be more for teams where I'm not subscribed to the mailing lists: > - debian-qa: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2014/05/msg00063.html > - debian-perl: > my initial question: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2014/05/msg00083.html > my summary: https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2014/06/msg00053.html Excellent. Do you have information yet on how many, arrival times (or departure, if sprinting after DebConf), and have had Lucas approve it? I can get the housing and meeting rooms scheduled asap. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Sport event during Debconf14?
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 01:51:35PM +0200, Oliver Propst wrote: > Sports event are usually appreciated by conference participants > (some a least). At GUADEC [1] for example there is a tradition of > hosting a football (soccer) tournament [2]. > Is it possible for the local team to investigate the possibilities > to host a sport event in connection to the conference? > Personally I enjoy Basketball very much, maybe that could be an option > to. > 1 https://www.guadec.org/ > 2 https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2012/Sports Unfortunately, the local team is tied up organizing the conference. The unviersity has extended use of the university gym to all attendees during the conference, so feel free to self-organize sports ball at your leisure. Patty -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] next DebConf14 local team meeting: Tuesday, June 17 at 1830 PDT, Lucky Lab SE
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:47:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Come out and enjoy the weather! :) For those not currently in Portland, this is a joke. It's raining. Again. Complete with thunder and lightning. Some of us are not amused. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Request to Adjust Budget for Social Events
Hello, team! I now have a more formal contract under consideration for the conference dinner. The daytrip remains the same as it was before, but now I have a very clear idea of what costs will be for the conference dinner, which are just slightly over what I requested the adjustment earlier. Bottom line, I'd like to transfer another $1500 to the conference dinner budget, bringing the conference dinner budget from $9900 to $11400 USD. I request the funds to come from the daytrip budget excess, which would take that down to $3474 USD. In reviewing the budget and the current status of the daytrip planning, this change will not affect the trip as planned, and will give us an enjoyable conference dinner. The proposal for the conference dinner: Punch Bowl Social - Portland[0] * Food would be a buffet-style "Taco Truck" with vegan, vegetarian and meat options. * Entertainment provided will be bowling (with complimentary bowling shoes as a non-profit organization!), floor shuffleboard, ping pong, karaoke and darts. * My padding this time gives us the option of giving each attendee a single drink ticket (for beer or wine), and the bars will be available for further purchase of mixed drinks and more beer/wine. I can also, if the team thinks it's appropriate, approach a couple of our sponsors who have previously indicated interest in providing drinks for attendees. * Location is close to PSU, so those who can't, or aren't interested in walking will have the option of public transportation. However, walking will be the best option. Details: * I have a contract from Punch Bowl Social - Portland, offering food and entertainment for 280 people. * Currently, the contract indicates $10650 will be the total (I'm padding) for food and entertainment (bowling, darts, shuffleboard, ping pong and karaoke). * Summary: We have 60 days before the event to cancel (which we're at - good lord, 60 days to DebConf), and need a 50% deposit that will be non-refundable after 60 days (effectively, non-refundable at this point). * The food is based per person, so if we go over 280, naturally, our costs go up (as expected). The balance of the amount owed is due upon completion of the dinner. * Time is of the essence. I have a few weeks before I'm *required* to have the contract signed, however, if any other groups attempt to book for the date I've requested, we'll have to either go forward or yield the booking to the other group. I'd much rather have the matter at hand decided and request SPI to send them the deposit check within the next 2 weeks. I sincerely believe this will be a fun event, and probably truly different than anything we've done in the past. My office held our holiday party there last year and it was great fun. See you all soon in Portland! Patty [0] http://punchbowlsocial.com/ -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@debian.org -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Fwd: [Debconf-sponsors-team] [rt.debconf.org #3753] Debian Conference 2014 Sponsorship
rocess the > >> sponsorship.. However I need to get them confirmed by our lawyers first, > >> so I would suggest following approach (if you agree): > >> - once you confirm that Software in the Public Interest, Inc. is the > >> right company and that the Bronze sponsorship is correct, I will submit a > >> PO and ask you for an invoice. The invoice will be processed and in the > >> meantime we will work on the legal paperwork. > >> - would this work for you? If so, I will submit a PO immediately and > >> once approved I will send you the PO number asap in order to speed up the > >> payment process… > >> > >> Also, another thing we will need to get is the Logo Usage Permission from > >> our trademark department in order to be able to place MySQL/Oracle logo on > >> your website and materials. In order to get that I need to receive a > >> contact information for person who is responsible for logo placement. This > >> person can be our point of contact (i.e. you Clint) or webmaster or anyone > >> who is in charge… I will ask for the permission and I will send you the > >> logo once we get the permission. Can you please send me following > >> information for the person who should get the permission? > >> - name > >> - position in the company > >> - company > >> - address > >> - phone / fax/ email > >> - place where the logo will be used (please list them, i.e. website URL, > >> brochure, screen at the conference….etc.) > >> > >> I guess that is all for now, I will work with our legal on getting the > >> right guidelines for contract and the legal paperwork and get to you soon > >> with the requirements. > >> > >> Thank you and please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any > >> questions, > >> regards, > >> Lenka > >> > >> > >> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Morgan Tocker > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Clint, > >>> > >>> Let me introduce you to Lenka on the MySQL Community Team. > >>> > >>> I’ve asked for her help in order to make sure we can sponsor Debconf this > >>> year. > >>> > >>> - Morgan > >>> > >>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Morgan Tocker > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Clint, > >>>> > >>>>>> 1) Is the Business Name we’d be sponsoring Software in the Public > >>>>>> Interest, Inc? > >>>>>> 2) Do you happen to know if SPI has done business with Oracle before? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (It is always a little easier to work with existing suppliers). > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, SPI should be in your supplier system as of January 2012. > >>>>> Let us know if you need additional information to track that down. > >>>> > >>>> I wasn’t able to find it - if you do have additional information that > >>>> may be helpful. > >>>> > >>>> Alternatively, I did manage to research a way: > >>>> > >>>> * SPI Donations http://www.spi-inc.org/donations/ accepts credit card - > >>>> but not Amex. > >>>> * On the same donations page, it mentions "Network for Good” which can > >>>> be used for Paypal. > >>>> * Network for good has a ‘designation’ where I can write in Debconf 2014. > >>>> > >>>> Is this an acceptable method for payment? > >>> > >> > >> > >> Lenka Kasparova | MySQL Community Events Coordinator & EMEA MySQL User > >> Groups Manager > >> Phone: +420-724778872 > >> Email: lenka.kaspar...@oracle.com > >> ORACLE Czech, s.r.o. | V Parku 2308/8, 148 00 Prague 4, Czech Republic > >> > > > > > > > > Lenka Kasparova | MySQL Community Events Coordinator & EMEA MySQL User > > Groups Manager > > Phone: +420-724778872 > > Email: lenka.kaspar...@oracle.com > > ORACLE Czech, s.r.o. | V Parku 2308/8, 148 00 Prague 4, Czech Republic > > > > > Lenka Kasparova | MySQL Community Events Coordinator & EMEA MySQL User Groups > Manager > Phone: +420-724778872 > Email: lenka.kaspar...@oracle.com > ORACLE Czech, s.r.o. | V Parku 2308/8, 148 00 Prague 4, Czech Republic > > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] next DebConf14 local team meeting: Tuesday, July 1 @ 1830 PDT, Lucky Lab SE
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 04:25:28PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > We promise, this time no rain! Oh dear lord, please let there be rain. -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DC14 help needed: TODOs
Blars, if you could put the following informaiton on there, it'd be fantastic: PSU Parking: * Parking passes MUST be pre-ordered by sending email to s...@pdx.edu with "DebConf Parking" in the subject line and in the body the dates needed as * well as attendee's full name. * Parking passes can be weekly (7 consecutive days) for $55 or daily for $12 * Can be ordered for people staying on or off site. * Is not covered by DebConf sponsorship. On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:56:02AM +, Blars Blarson wrote: > Please add: > > Parking at PSU (where, how much) > > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Cheese and Wine party venue
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 06:48:55PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Gerald Turner wrote: > > Team, what do we do about this new requirement from Puppet Labs? > > Christy Snow writes: > >> One thing that I don't think that has been mentioned, for all events > >> we have at the office we require a registration list. This helps us > >> plan for exactly how many will be attending and our chance to present > >> our Events Code of Conduct. We usually create a simple Eventbrite > >> that we can send to attendees (doesn't take more than 3 minutes to > >> fill out). > > Since reconfirmation has already started, I'm guessing it's too late to > > add a "Will be attending C&W party" checkbox to summit :( > Did Patty ever come to a conclusion on?: > https://www.mail-archive.com/debconf-team@lists.debconf.org/msg10905.html I am having trouble getting traction in the discussion on the mailing list. I've escalated the issue to Lucas and Moray and am waiting on them for a decision on just adopting it. I *could* unilaterally just declare it in effect for DC14, as it has full support of the entire DC14 local team, but my goal was to make it a globally adopted CoC. It builds off DC13's statement, the Debian CoC, and ensures all attendees of their treatment by organizers, with RichiH's suggestions on protecting everyone involved included. > I'm asking because if the two are largely in alignment, perhaps having > the attendees in compliance with the DebConf CoC, will be fine for PL? > If they aren't in alignment, I'd be concerned about enforcing > something we don't agree with upon our attendees. Agreed. > In addition I see an issue forcing DebConf attendees to use > EventBrite. (People will get upset.) Well, "people" are always going to be upset about *something*. 1 oz cups, for example, the distance from the university, for example - needing to register is just going to be Another Thing. I'm more concerned about lack of compliance, then people just showing up. I would like the wine and cheese party to be open to anyone with a legit DebConf14 badge on, to be honest. Patty -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Posters from sponsors?
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 12:40:41PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I've been asked by another guy at ARM about putting up a poster for > > ARM. We're sponsors, and he's planning to be announcing something in > > my ARM talk on August 29. Any issues with that? Guidelines on what's > > possible / reasonable please? > My sense is that since one of the higher level (gold and platinum) > perks [1] are: > 1) Logo on banner in conference lobby > 2) Logo on banner behind talk podiums > Posters next to those banners, might kind of dilute the banner perks, > since for a fraction of the costs of a Gold/platinum sponsorship, a lower > tier sponsor could get much more relative exposure by putting up posters/ > ads. IE: I am generally not in favor but could see allowing it in certain > cases > for the highest levels of sponsorship. > -Brian Aside from the sponsorship concern (I'm not as concerned about a poster during a talk "diluting" the platinum sponsor's logo *on the videos and the banner behind the podiums* during the course of the ARM talk at the very least. The problem we're going to run into is that we're not allowed to tack anything to the walls at all. If you wish to bring something that the poster can sit on, we could probably have it up in the hacklab? But, it can't be on the wall, so you'd need an easel or something. Patty > [1] - http://media.debconf.org/dc14/sponsors/DebConf14_SponsoringBrochure.pdf > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] attendance by a non-dev?
Removing identifying information to protect the innocent (for now). But, we've been seeing quite a few "I just created an account in alioth, and I'm having issues registering for the confernce". It occurs to me that those who are *really* interested are likely to take the time to reach out to us, but those who aren't sure, or don't feel completely invited yet, may be discouraged by this. Is there a delay between account creation and ability to sign in through summit? I seem to remember there being some sort of process that cron'd every hour or some such. (Which creates delays with account creations and password changes and yadda.) If this is the case, should we have something on Summit that advises people that account creation will take amount of time, and to please wait that long before registering? Patty - Forwarded message from ***@***.*** - Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:08:49 -0700 From: ***@***.*** To: registrat...@debconf.org Subject: attendance by a non-dev? Hi, I'm not a Debian developer, but I'm about 2.5 years into my GNU/Linux odyssey, now working on meta issues, working to help developers and valuable projects like Debian I happen to live in Portland and am interested in attending at least some of DebConf to (A) network with folks (B) see what it's all about (C) find out ways that I can get involved and learn more although I'm not really a programmer, etc. I made an Alioth account, but trying to sign in through SSO with that brought an error. Should I even worry about registration? If I pack my own lunch and just show up, is that ok? Or can I register another way? Also, any way to get a sense of the most appropriate ways for me to participate? - End forwarded message - -- ------ Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
