Stus-List for Bev Parslow and Jib Sheet Question

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

  Bev, a good rule of thumb for length of most jib sheets is 1 and 1/2  to 1 
and 2/3rds of the boat length. Mauri Pro Sailing and Annapolis Performance 
Sailing both have great rig calculators to help with purchasing lines.  You can 
measure the diameter of your present sheet considering the line may be thicker 
due to wear.  The diameter of sheets depends on their working load strength, 
andwhether they will work with any present clutches or self-tailers. Beyond 
that, its up to your preference for your type of sailing. If you'd like advice 
on what to get and how much, it would be helpful for the list to know your boat 
length and what kind of sailing you do?
Barbara HicksonC&C33-1 "Flight Risk" Hull No 475Charleston, SC___

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Stus-List Keel bolt weeping

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

 Hi Listers,  I'm having trouble searching the archives for info on the 
possible repair scenarios for a keel bolt seeping seawater.  It's not much, 
just slightly weeping.  I know this has been written about extensively but not 
finding it on this forum.  The worst case scenario is the keel must be dropped 
and rebedded and I know someone on the list has done this before.  What is the 
bedding compound of choice?  Is there any other, as in cheaper, scenario that's 
viable?  The tops of the bolts and their nuts look in good shape and there's no 
rust/corrosion on what I can see.  It's the part that I can't see that I'm 
nervous about. I will get the boat hauled to better check it out and look at 
the options, but considering her age (she turns 40 next month), have to 
consider the options. I don't have the pockets to get emotional about this. One 
of us weeping is plenty! Thanks for your help.  Barbara L. HicksonFlight Risk, 
'76 C&C33-1Charleston, SC  
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Stus-List Bermuda and the Americas Cup races

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Hi all, have not been on post for awhile. Sailed to Bermuda to meet an online 
date, that's another story, the man keeps his Gulfstar ketch on mooring in 
Cotuit MA. and since home, I've been relishing  the benefits of a better 
sailing boat where I can make decisions (even if my C&C is only 33'). If it 
weren't for my input, we would have landed in Montauk coming back. Great trip 
tho. Bermuda has changed very little in the 20 years since my last sail there. 
The popular spots are more touristy but still plenty of off track good watering 
holes. Saw a pilot whale coming back, very close to the boat. Crown jewel of 
the trip. The races were good, very exciting to be so close to Oracle and that 
other boat. Tried to find Rick Brass, who I saw from the passage list was 
going, but the captain and crew were not very socialable and that's an 
understatement. New Englanders, I was told, have a far different attitude. They 
threw trash into the ocean. 😔. Even tho I won't be seeing them again, I'm glad 
I went and now I know and it only took 3 weeks!  Americas Cup was a bucket list 
✅. All is good down here in the south land, and the daily subtropical rain 
pattern should be letting up on a few weeks. That's all for now. As you were!  
😊💪Haha!  Barbara Hickson "Flight Risk" 33-1Charleston SC


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  1. Re:  Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws NOW feckless
      meanderings (Ronald B. Frerker)
  2.  Wiring Bilge Direct to Battery (Chris Hobson)
  3.  feckless meanderings - Dylan (G Collins)
  4. Re:  Wiring Bilge Direct to Battery (RANDY)
  5. Re:  feckless meanderings - Dylan (Jerome Tauber)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:46:56 + (UTC)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws NOW
    feckless meanderings
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"I am younger than that now."
Must be a Dylan fan.Does he have any songs about sailboats? ?Anything we can 
adapt to old C&Cs?Finally had a day under 90 F friday and went out sailing. 
?Winds at 20 with gusts as high as 28mph; used my 160% genny only and it was a 
great choice, although tacking took a while. ?Once through the tack, the wind 
just kept blowing the bow down. ?Had to gain speed and nurse it back to 
windward. ?Downwind was a blast!RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
      From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Dennis C. 
 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws
  
Too funny. After my post favoring SS rivets, I get to Touch? today to see 1/4 
inch Phillips machine screws on the vang bracket. :)
Well, it was many years ago when I installed it; I am younger than that now.?
Dennis C.

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{}#yiv3482658130 One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the 
attachment to both the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send 
them the profile of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates 
attached to the mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my 25 
about half of the boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the fasteners 
connecting the plate to the spar are under primarily shear loading, not 
tensile. ?For this 

Re: Stus-List Re-routing cockpit drain lines

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

On my '76 33-1, the cockpit drains into thru hulls with inline ball valves in a 
y configuration below the cockpit floor and then straight down thru the hull, 
well beneath the waterline. It appears from line drawings that this is the only 
practical configuration. If the drains were rerouted to either side of the hull 
or to the stern above the waterline, there would a) not be enough slope, and b) 
the outlets would allow water back into the cockpit when heeling or with a 
following wave. Has anyone done this, or am I correct in my assessment?  Has 
anyone used marelon replacement flanged seacocks?  Their video says they are to 
be screwed only to a backing plate and not screwed all the way thru the hull. 
Seems like a good solution if it works. Thx for any input. Barbara 
Hickson"Flight Risk" '76 33-1Charleston, SC


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Today's Topics:

  1.  Diesel in bilge (Francois Rivard)
  2. Re:  Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 (Hoyt, Mike)
  3. Re:  Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 (John Irvin)
  4. Re:  Diesel in bilge (Josh Muckley)
  5. Re:  Diesel in bilge (dwight veinot)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:56:11 -0400
From: Francois Rivard 
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Subject: Stus-List  Diesel in bilge
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Hi,

You should take a look at the lines and check for cracks in the Racor
housing..  My engine developed loss of power / stalling issues last year
and it was related to an air leak, once we started looking at the fuel
system in details we found issues everywhere.

I'm not kidding. My lift pump was tired, the fuel hoses had small cracks,
there was a problem with the one-way valve at the tank (Not needed, I just
removed that), and even my Racor housing was cracked so I replaced
everything: the lines, the Racor and housing/mounting, the lift pump, the
one way valve was removed, all is fresh from the tank to the block and the
engine runs fine  / the cold starts are much quicker.

Good luck with it.

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
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Paul

I looked at your engine rebuilt post.  What a daunting job!

Great work

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

John,

Wally?s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.  There are several other 
Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
just the first few which come up on a google search.

I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
link to my project page.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

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Stus-List 33-1 owners

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

The first 33s rock!  If there's enough interest in forming an owners group on 
the C&C website, pls email me at blhick...@yahoo.com with the subject line 
C&C33-1.  Love my 33-1 and its Atomic 4. Boat owners come aboard and can't 
believe how quiet she is. Still have alcohol stove which has been rehabbed and 
works well. Pretty boat, well balanced, and competitive  
BLHICKSON "Flight Risk" Chas., SC. 
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  2.  Selling 26' C&C Washington State (Dan Utinske)
  3. Re:  LED bulb lumen equivalents (Peter Fell)
  4. Re:  Big Boat on my property C&C 33 mk1 (bobmor99 .)
  5. Re:  Selling 26' C&C Washington State (Bill Dakin)
  6.  E measurement (wwadjo...@aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 20:41:21 + (UTC)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List cleaning thru hulls.
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Active ingredient in coke is phosphoric acid. ?Same as some bathroom cleaners. 
?Might be cheaper than way and less sticky.Muriatic is more hazardous.RonWild 
CheriC&C 30-1STL


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Cc: Andrew Burton 
 Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 6:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List cleaning thru hulls.
  
Not being facetious; soak em in Coca Cola. Just cleaned up some very tarnished 
bronze that way. You might have to take a wire brush to them as well.AndyC&C 
40Peregrine

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Does anyone have a cleaner for the bronze thru hulls? They seem to be rather 
corroded.

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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:19:46 -0700
From: Dan Utinske 
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Subject: Stus-List Selling 26' C&C Washington State
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Unfortunately I suffered a heart attack @ 2.5 years ago and haven?t had the 
time to dedicate to my C&C and I need to part ways with it.  I?m willing to 
part with her and not looking for much in return.  She has a full load of sails 
in very good condition.  She?s not been sailed since the heart attack or had 
much maintenance.  I?ve had the hull cleaned (diver) a few times and her 
topside washed but having difficult finding someone to wash again and she needs 
her hull cleaned again.  She?s a moored vessel at Port of Brownsville Marina, 
Bremerton, WA.  A very nice and very reasonable priced marina, you can see it 
on Google Earth.  She also has a 8HP diesel that hasn?t been started since the 
heart attack.    

I have title in hand and will consider any reasonable offer.  I don?t have a 
trailer for the C&C or she?d be out of the water.  She?s currently moored at 
A-48 and the office is open daily 7 days a week.  I can meet anyone who wants 
to see her. 


Contact: 

Dan Utinske
253-432-0572 Cell


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:21:19 -0700
From: Peter Fell 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List LED bulb lumen equivalents
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I have only done a test in my darkened basement, but this seemed to work
very well:
https://victory-products.com/collections/lighting-victory/products/aa00287r
It's far brighter than something like a LED indicator light but nowhere
near the brightness of your typical BA9S LED (and I couldn't find one that

Re: Stus-List Who made our masts?

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Anyone know off the top of their head who made masts for the ‘76 C&C 33?  Thx. 
Barbara Hickson“Flight Risk” C&C33-1Charleston, SC 


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  1. Re:  [EXTERNAL]  Re:  water level (Richard)
  2. Re:  [EXTERNAL]  Re:  water level (Randy Stafford)
  3. Re:  [EXTERNAL]  Re:  water level (Richard)
  4. Re:  water level (Chuck Gilchrest)
  5.  (no subject) (Bill Findley)


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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 12:01:10 -0500
From: Richard 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL]  Re:  water level
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Yeah, we had five feet of water-and mud-in the 2nd floor of our house 

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> On Mar 7, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
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> With a 24 foot tide here, only the roof of my house would be showing and my 
> house is 2 stories.
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
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> That's wild, I'd like to see thathere on the Ohio river, we are waiting 
> for our docks to show out of the river from a major flood event...my dock was 
> under 24 feet of water...( boat was hauled and on high ground)!
>  
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River Mile 596;
> 
> Richard N. Bush  
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
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> Cc: Gary Nylander 
> Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 10:54 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List water level
> 
> Amen, the docks are under water in St. Michaels as well. It?s amazing that 
> the wind (plenty of wind) can blow that much water out of the Bay. And then 
> watch it come back in.
>  
> Gary
> 15 miles south
>  
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> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:41 AM
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> Subject: Stus-List water level
>  
> We went from a couple of days where the lifelines were lower than the pier to 
> the pier being underwater now!
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 10:47:42 -0700
From: Randy Stafford 
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Holy crap, sorry to hear about that Richard.

Cheers,
Randhy

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Yeah, we had five feet of water-and mud-in the 2nd floor of our house 

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> On Mar 7, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
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> With a 24 foot tide here, only the roof of my house would be showing and my 
> house is 2 stories.
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> Coquina

Stus-List Re-sleeving winches

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Just FYI West Marine and Lewmar are currently having their annual BOGO free 
deal.  Don’t know how long it lasts but Iwas able to replace all 6 winches at a 
better price than using my West Marine employee discount. 
Barbara Hickson“Flight Risk” C&C33-1Charleston SC


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  2. Re:  Resleeving winches (Dennis C.)
  3. Re:  Materials for a hard bimini? (Dennis C.)
  4. Re:  Materials for a hard bimini? (Rick Brass)
  5. Re:  Resleeving winches (Rick Brass)
  6. Re:  Materials for a hard bimini? (Chuck S)
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 22:37:37 +
From: Pete Shelquist 
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Mike - Lucky for you I have a pair of 28s for sale!



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Subject: Stus-List Resleeving winches


My Barient 27?s are developing a lot of play.  The aluminum drums wearing badly 
(the inside, not the outside).

The rest of the winches are in great shape, gears, bearings, pawls.  I was 
wondering if anyone on the group has ever tried having a machine shop bore out 
the interior of the drum to accept a sleeve of aluminum or oilite bronze. I 
contacted Hutton Winches in Australia and they told me they do this service for 
$400/drum. Obviously, shipping 2 large winches to Australia and back would be 
out of the question.

Anyone had this done at a local machine shop?



Mike Amirault

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:49:35 -0500
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I had issues with my alloy Barlows and Barients.

Issue 1 - the pawl receptacle was wallowing out.  That caused the pawls to
stick or to partially exit the receptacle.  Bad!  I took them to a
machinist who was interested in all things boating.  He declined to touch
them.  He could have filled the rebored the pawl holes.

Issue 2 - I had some teeth break off the inside of the drum.  I took the
drum to a machine shop where they filled then recut the teeth.  $200.

My ultimate solution was to replace ALL 6 of the alloy winches with chrome
bronze and stainless winches off eBay and Craiglist List.  2 stainless
Barient 22's, 2 chrome Barlow 28's and 2 chrome Barlow 26's for $1100 total
plus  some shipping.

In my opinion, alloy winches have a limited service life.  I would check
eBay often to upgrade to chrome bronze or stainless.  Chrome and stainless
winches look great and improve the "pier appeal" of your boat.

To search Craigslist and local classifieds, use claz.org or yakaz.com.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM, mike amirault via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My Barient 27?s are developing a lot of play.  The aluminum drums wearing
> badly (the inside, not the outside).
>
> The rest of the winches are in great shape, gears, bearings, pawls.  I was
> wondering if anyone on the group has ever tried having a machine shop bore
> out the interior of the drum to accept a sleeve of aluminum or oilite
> bronze. I contacted Hutton Winches in Australia and they told me they do
> this service for $400/drum. Obviously, shipping 2 large winches to
> Australia and back would be out of the question.
>
> Anyone had this done at a local machine shop?
>
>
>
> Mike Amirault
>
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[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Question:  with about this long a boat at 62’ listed, with a shallow draft as 
this one apparently is, would you expect it to sail well to weather?  In my 
limited opinion, I thought the deeper the keel, a fin keel, the better it would 
go. Am I wrong on this?  I sailed and lived aboard a Bowman 47 that had an 8’ 
sweptaway fin keel that sailed like a dream so maybe I’m fixated on that. It 
seems like lots of larger boats have shallow drafts to allow them access to 
shallow water but wouldn’t they be unlikely to sail closer to the wind?  My C&C 
33 has a 5’6” draft. She sails great to weather, 15-20 degrees off wind 
regularly. What do y’all think?


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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:40:24 -0400
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I'll say. Can't neglect these boats.

Why in the world would they say, "In nice condition"?

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

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Subject: Stus-List Holy Crap...

 

...what a shame.  Must have been a Bruckman one off?

 

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?
refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk


 
 

 
 1982 C&C Sail Boat For Sale -
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1982 C&C Sail boat for sale, located in Maryland, DEALE

 

 

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Herrington Harbor is a massive marina.  Compared to some of the derelict
boats abandoned there, it is in at least fair condition.  What a shame!

Joel


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On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
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> I?ll say. Can?t neglect these boats.
>
> Why in the world would they say, ?In nice condition??
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 2:57 PM
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> *Subject:* Stus-List Holy Crap...
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>
>
> ...what a shame.  Must have been a Bruckman one off?
>
>
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/
> Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk
>
>
> 
>
> 1982 C&C Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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> www.yachtworld.com
>
> 1982 C&C Sail boat for sale, located in Maryland, DEALE
>
>
>
>
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[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Hi Jack, I hope you’re doing well (and everyone else on the list!). I bought 
Flight Risk (1976 33-1 Hull no 145) in 2009. Berthed at Charleston City Marina, 
Charleston Yacht Club. I’m  her 3rd owner. Bought her from my sister in law’s 
brother in Deale,MD and sailed her to Savannah and subsequently to Charleston. 
Original name was Hot Box and then Delaney. Previous owner kept the name 
Delaney. Has original Atomic 4 which runs great, is quiet and easy to work on. 
She’s a lovely boat and gets compliments all the time. They don’t make them 
like her any more. Barbara L. HicksonCharleston, SC


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My C&C love affair started in 2000.  I joined the crew of Bill Dingwell?s 
?Zoomer? a ?78 C&C 40? deep keel with an impressive race history in New England 
 .  Our main sail trimmer was Rob Ball.  We bought our first C&C in 2001, Half 
Magic, a ?74 25 Mk 1 as the 3rd owner.  It served our family for 14 years, 
mostly day sailing and cruising with a race here and there until our two 
children with the occasional friend and a large yellow lab made for rather 
crowded accommodations for weekend cruising.  We bought our new Half Magic, an 
?83 Landfall 35 in Jan 2016 and again I?m the 3rd owner.  After Zoomer sold, I 
rejoined Rob for racing as crew on his Etchells and we worked together at Edson 
for quite a few years.  At no time did I consider replacing the 25 with 
anything other than another C&C.  Maybe it?s the lines of the boat, maybe the 
build quality, or perhaps Rob?s influence as a friend and sailing buddy or a 
combination of all of the above.  

 

Just an FYI, after acquiring his 34, Rob?s Etchells is now on the market and is 
a spectacularly great deal given the time, money,  and effort he?s put into the 
boat.. Someone on the list should snap it up!

https://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/d/etchells-one-design-sailboat/6686704183.html

 

Anyone going to Annapolis for the Boat Show this week?  I?ll be down there 
walking the show on Thursday and Friday, supporting a few of my Novabraid 
dealers.  Hit me up off list if anyone wants to catch up and talk boats.

Cheers,

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

 

Hello Al,

 

I have a question for the list.

 

How many of you have owned your current C&C yacht for 5 years or longer.

 

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.

 




Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald, 

HONEY - US12788

1974 C&C 39 TM

Savannah, GA 31410 USA

 

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Re: Stus-List State of Bliss

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Adam, I too would be keen to hear how your whole restoration went. I bet a lot 
of us would. How did you know she was down there and how did you get her up?  
What sank her?  I have to say, you are quite the hero for saving a great boat 
like that!  Cheers to you and hope to hear some stories,Barbara Hickson Flight 
Risk ‘76 33-1Charleston, SC


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  3. Re:  Tank level indicators (Neil Andersen)
  4. Re:  Years owned C&C (Richard Bush)
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Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 01:26:58 -0400
From: Josh Muckley 
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The install is pretty straightforward.  First off the biggest advantage to
this system is that it uses some type of capacitance to detect level.
Similar to the way our smartphones detect touch.  The sensors are
completely external to the tank and simply adhere to the outside.  This
means NO LEAKS.  They are comprised of 2 aluminum tape (metal duct tape)
strips installed in parallel on any side besides the top or bottom.  They
run from the top of the tank to the bottom in a vertical fashion.  As the
level in the tank rises the liquid capacitively couples more signal between
the two vertical strips.  This is processed into an output number and then
the user calibrates the specific number to a percentage of level during
installation/setup.  You choose different calibration intervals for ease
and accuracy.  Either a 2 point (full/empty), 5 point (25% increments), or
11 point (10% increments).  An 11 point calibration provides the best
accuracy for odd shaped tanks with sloping or curved sides.

Besides adhering aluminum tape to the side of the tank, a sensor unit with
2 pads gets adhered to the tank.  One pad to each tape strip.  The sensor
is a 4 wire device which has a short pig tail.  A user supplied cable needs
to be routed and connected between the head unit and the sensor.  A
template is provided for cutting the appropriate hole to mount the head
unit.  Then a 12v supply is required.  Then calibrate by filling the tank
to known volumes.  Overall pretty simple.

The aluminum tape strips won't work on metal tanks so the company provides
dip tube style sensors which can be installed instead.  The 37+ has a metal
fuel tank and a metal water tank in the v-birth.

The company also has an option for propane tanks (or any other tank) which
are already equipped with a 0 to 300 ohm output.  Just wire it up and
calibrate.  The head unit can accommodate 8 tanks. Fuel, water, sewage,
propane, etc.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 6:59 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
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> Josh,
>
> I would be very interested in hearing how you installed this, including
> access to the tank sides to mount the sensors.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
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> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
> www.StarshipSailing.com
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> I installed this product.  I love it.
> https://tankedge.com/products.html
>
> Josh Muckley
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I have only been a C&C owner for 4 years.  I saved State of Bliss(previously 
Silver Tassie),a a C&C 36 from the Scrap yard after she spent 4 days on the 
bottom of Halifax Harbour.
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Stus-List Anyone with experience selling shares?

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,I’ve been considering selling shares to offset the costs of 
ownership. I’d like to do it on a “limited term” basis, like an annual share 
basis. Does anyone have any experience with this?  Pls contact me off or on 
list if you do or have any suggestions. Thanks!Barbara L. HicksonFlight Risk 
C&C 33-1 Charleston, SC


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Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

My boat's on the hard prefacing a Matthew haulout.  While she's out, she's due 
for some bottom work and thruhull replacement.  I'm going to replace the main 
and jib halyard sheaves at the masthead while she's out of the water, and while 
I know it's easier to replace them with the mast stepped, that's not going to 
happen this time around.  That being said, can anyone here help inform me as to 
what I have to do to get the sheaves out once I'm up the mast? Can't find any 
good info online about this procedure for a 33-1.  I have seen that there are 
pins that look like rivets on one side of the mast that hold the sheaves in 
place.  If I can get the pins out with a punch/chisel and don't lose the 
sheaves inside the mast, what else do I need to think about?  I have spare 
halyards to go aloft so there wont' be tension on said main and jib halyards. 
What tools do I need?  Thought I would block the holes in the sheave block to 
keep them from falling down inside the mast.  Any thoughts much appreciated.   
Barbara Hickson"Flight Risk" C&C 33-1Charleston, SC 
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:43:37 -0400
From: Steve Thomas 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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You should talk to Doyle Boston Sailmakers in Sarnia. They have done a lot of 
work for me over the years, including re-cutting and re-sizing, as well as a 
brand  new Dacron genoa. Not the cheapest option for new sails, but they are 
the go-to guys for the racers around here and they just might be able to 
breathe some new life into your baffed out old main. Full battens in a main can 
work wonders in light air. Or they might not, but they will tell you if you 
take the sail there. They are located close to the Bluewater Bridge and the 
Sarnia Yacht Club. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 Dave S via CnC-List  wrote: 
Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail
loft has diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond
expired".  Cue the Monty Python...

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)
No telltales other than streamers off the leech.
IIRC there may be a leech line.
4 partial battens battens.
There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe
is called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never
used this out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.
it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in
Toronto.


I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing is recreational
sailing here on Lake Ontario.  Would like to distance race but not looking
to be ultra-competitive at the top level.      Don't want to buy another
Main for this boat in the next decade.

Any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement, or comments on sail
lofts?  Many thanks!

Dave
Windstar 33-2




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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:59:23 -0400
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Dave 

Check out Precision Sails in Victoria BC. They have a great on-line site. Sails 
are made Asia somewhere but inspected and shipped from BC.  I got a 135 and 
asym from them this year. Very happy with the product and price.

 

Martin 

C&C 29-2 Recalculating

MCC Toronto

 

From: Dave S [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:56 AM
To: C&c Stus List 
Subject: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations

 

Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail loft has 
diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond expired".  Cue the Monty 
Python...

 

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and 
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)  

No telltales other than streamers off the leech.  

IIRC there may be a leech line.  

4 partial battens battens.  

There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe is 
called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never used this 
out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.  

it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.  

 

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in Toronto.

 

 

I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing i

Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement.

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Thanks all. That makes sense. The yard suggested their crane 
which I totally understand $$. 

Barbara L. Hickson

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[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Does anyone know who would have made the mast and boom for my ‘76 C&C 33?  TIA. 
BLHicksonFlight Risk 33-1Chas., SC


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  2. Re:  Compass (Josh Muckley)
  3. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
  4. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
  5. Re:  Compass (Della Barba, Joe)
  6. Re:  Compass (Dreuge)


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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:38:53 -0500
From: Josh Muckley 
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For anyone who is curious about the thermodynamic properties of water.
https://images.app.goo.gl/vRbfXaeYY1aXb3Zz8

Josh




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> Josh,
>
> Saw your comment about water.  I was taught that water freezes at 32
> degrees but goes through a morph around 26 degrees where it expands
> dramatically in a one time shock event.  That's when water pipes burst.
> The expansion is a shock load to copper pipes which will fish mouth open at
> a weak spot, usually in the sidewall of tubing, rarely in a fitting.  Steel
> pipes behave differently usually pushing out a weaker cast fitting.  My
> understanding is that as the temperature lowers, the ice does not expand
> any further.  Is that about right or is there more to it?
>
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Now the seals are a little bit different story.  They could contract in
accordance with the normally expected properties of other normal
substances.  Naturally this could cause leaks.  I was thinking that the
fear was frozen liquid expanding, causing a cracked lens.

Josh


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> In 2006, my boat was trucked from Wisconsin.  After launch, I noticed the
> Ritchie compass was not reacting normally (slow to adjust to changes in
> direction).  Took it to have it checked out.  Repair guy took it apart and
> replaced a broken spring (he said, I really don't know what he did) and he
> refilled with mineral oil.  Compass has worked fine since.
>
> He advised to remove the compass during winter layup as the freezing temps
> here could possibly damage the seals.  I have not removed the compass
> during the winter and so far there does not  appear to be any adverse
> issue(s).  I felt removing the compass provided more chances of a mishap
> (like me dropping it to the ground) than leaving it on the boat.  Since
> most, if not all, of my boats neighbors did not remove them, neither would
> I.
>
> I read somewhere that the freezing temp of mineral was 24F or -4C (it
> contracts, not expands) and our temps get well below that
>
> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
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I also remove my large hatch cover (32? x 32?).  After replacing the lens a few 
years ago, we had a stretch of ?15 F temperatures for two or three days, and 
the aluminum contracted so much that the lens was pushed out

Re: Stus-List Rendezvous 2020 mid Atlantic or south

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

I’d definitely be game for a rendezvous south of Virginia. If in southern NC or 
south, I’d bring the boat. 


Barbara L. HicksonC&C 33-1 Flight RiskChas., SC
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  1. Re:  Toe Rail Resealing (Rick Brass)
  2. Re:  Rudder lubrication Landfall 38 (Rick Brass)
  3. Re:  2020 Rendezvous (s) Mid East (cscheaffer)
  4.  C&C Rendezvous -- Florida (February 2020?) (Edd Schillay)


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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:33:52 -0500
From: "Rick Brass" 
To: 
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I think you?ll find the consensus of advice to be ?Don?t do it.?

 

The hull to deck joint and toe rail on the older C&Cs is a pretty well 
engineered setup that will last a lifetime. There are several  hundred of us on 
the list, and I suspect the number who have had leaks in the toe rail or hull 
to deck join is near single digits.

 

Basically the joint (from bottom to  top) is as follows: Inward facing flange 
on the hull, layer of butyl, rubber rub rail riveted to the hull flange, 
another layer of butyl, the deck, another layer of butyl, the toe rail, then it 
is all through bolted with stainless oval head machine screws. My 25 has screws 
every 6? (IIRC) and my 38 is bolted every 4?. Removing the bolts and toe rail 
can possibly compromise every layer of the seal.

 

If you have an owners? manual (or buy one from the Photo Album website) you can 
see a cross section of the joint.

 

In almost all cases the recommended fix for a leak (which seem to mostly be 
around the machine screws) is to tighten the through bolts about ? to a full 
turn, and apply Captain Tolley?s Creeping Crack Cure to the inside edge of the 
toe rail to deck joint. 

 

Tightening the bolts is a two man job ? the person on top holds the screw in 
place so it does not turn (which breaks the seal of the butyl and can result in 
a leak) while the person below tightens the nut a bit. Be careful not to 
overtighten the nut because you can squeeze all of the butyl out of the joint.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Toe Rail Resealing

 

I'm getting ready to pull the toe rail on my '78 26 to reseal, and will also do 
the same with the bow fitting once the rails are refitted and I can tie off the 
headsail halyard to it.  

 

Anyone have any words of wisdom before I begin? 

 

TIA

Jim Hesketh

Whisper C&C 26

Miami, FL

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Ditto.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

 

I made up a couple of discs from Delrin for a bearing.

 

Ed

 

Prime Interest

C&C LF38

Toronto, Canada

 

On Tue., Nov. 5, 2019, 7:45 a.m. Simon and Silvana via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have removed the rudder and would like guidance on the type of lubricant to 
use in the lower section where the rudder passes through the fibreglass tube.

What is the best replacement material for the nylon (?) disc of the thrust 
bearing?

Has anyone installed a grease fitting in the thrust bearing?

Thanks

Simon

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Went to all rope halyards in 2017 and changed out masthead sheaves at the same 
time. Zephyrworks was great for making new sheaves. The old v-based wire to 
rope sheaves would have made a mess of new all rope halyards. The new sheaves 
work great.  

Barbara L. Hickson

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> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:51:21 -0300
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> To: "'ALAN BERGEN'" ,"'C&C'"
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List wire-to-rope vs rope - sheaves!
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> Yes I got sheaves from Zepherworks, custom sizes and they work flawlessly.
> 
> Replaced 1 main, 2 jib halyards with XLS. 
> 
> A great upgrade and no work frayed wire punctures in any body parts.
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> Landfall 38 ? ECHOES
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ALAN BERGEN [mailto:trya...@alumni.usc.edu] 
> Sent: March-12-20 1:17 AM
> To: C&C
> Subject: Re: Stus-List wire-to-rope vs rope - sheaves!
> 
> 
> 
> I, too, used sheaves from Zephyrwerks.
> 
> 
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> 
> Rose City YC
> 
> Portland, OR
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.zephyrwerks.com/mastheadsheaves.html 
> 
>  
> 
> ___
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:46 11AM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I went all rope (main and Genoa) around 2008 on the original (1977) aluminum 
> sheaves. Had no problems for about 5 years. I rebuilt the masthead sheave box 
> in about 2013 with custom delrin  sheaves from the guy in Port Townsend 
> (can?t remember the name of the company)
> 
> 
> 
> Sam Salter
> 
> C&C 26  Liquorice 
> 
> Ghost Lake  Alberta 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < 
>  cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> My wire to rope jib halyard dates back to the 1980s and has some nasty meat 
> hooks. I have several all rope halyards that were given to me and have sat 
> inside my shed for years. I used the old wire halyard to pull one through and 
> my original thought was to get another one made. This does raise an obvious 
> question ? why not just use the rope?
> 
> My fear is that since the sail usually only comes down once a year if that, 
> the rope will get chewed through on the masthead shiv. Is this an issue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
> 
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Charleston Race Week cancelled, originally scheduled to begin 4/23. Chas Yacht 
Club dining rooms and bar closed. Activities cancelled til further notice, 

Barbara L. HicksonC&C 33-1 “Flight Risk”Charleston SC




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Re: Stus-List hatch knobs

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Try this guy. Used to work at A and H and Hatchmasters before going out on his 
own. Super helpful and less $$ than anyone else. 
Hammerhead Hatch Repair Gurdial Singh Channa417 767 0222877 767 0222
He’s in the midwestern US IIRC. 
Barbara L. Hickson 

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  1. Re:  Exterior hatch knob (Shawn Wright)
  2. Re:  Exterior hatch knob (Neil Andersen)
  3. Re:  Exterior hatch knob (Shawn Wright)


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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 16:23:39 -0700
From: Shawn Wright 
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I agree that a SS option would be better. One of mine appears to be the
newer style, but I admit that this is one area of the boat I have not
inspected closely at all. I do plan to replace the ports and hatch lenses
at some point in the future, if we don't find another boat first... Saw a
very nice Tayana 48 anchored beside us yesterday. Wasn't sure what it was
so I took a photo and found it online, since I didn't get a chance to say
hello to the owners. A bit out of league for now though, but one has to
have dreams...

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 1:38 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks Shawn. I think a machine shop could make a pair of knobs out of
> stainless steel for the ptice of one new one from A&H. Besides the new ones
> don?t look to be the same and I believe they are designed to work with a
> spring seal which mine doesn?t have. Right now it works held together with
> a jubilee clamp and plastic cover taped over the knob. I may try my hand at
> making something that should work and get me thru the season out of a piece
> of jatoba wood. Looks to me that what i need is pretty simple but a
> critical part of the hatch nonetheless.
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:37 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> One of ours has been replaced with a similar knob, but with a different
>> knurling pattern, so I suspect it's a later version from A&H. The old knob
>> is in a parts bin, but I haven't checked to see what is wrong with it. The
>> hatch is working fine aside from a few drips in heavy rain, so I've just
>> left it alone. I suspect if I start poking it, I'll be into a full rebuild.
>> The aluminum knob on SS shaft is bound to cause some issues over time.
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:00 AM dwight veinot via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alianna has the original 24x24 inch Atkins and Hoyle hatch above the
>>> v-berth.  This hatch has served well and has not been a source of
>>> leaks but just lately I noticed that one of the exterior aluminum
>>> knobs has cracked and if not for the clamp I have holding it together
>>> it would likely fall off.  I am wondering if anyone who has replaced
>>> one of these Atkins and Hoyle hatches may have serviceable knobs lying
>>> around that they have no use for and would be willing to part with or
>>> does anyone have recommendations on how to fix this so I don't have to
>>> do a complete hatch replacement.
>>> Dwight Veinot
>>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
>>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>>> devei...@eastlink.ca
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Re: Stus-List Listers Age Range

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Gentlemen, I just wanted to point out a younger C&C owner who responded and 
y’all are overlooking:
32

Cam Lubbock

Checkmate
C&C 38mkII
Parry Sound, ON 
Sent from my iPhone

Cam posted a couple of days ago, so 32 appears to be the new youngest. Welcome 
Cam!
Barbara L. Hickson 

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  3. Re:  Listers Age Range (Glen Eddie)
  4. Re:  Listers Age Range (Della Barba, Joe)


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58 here.

 

Last evening I installed my wind transducer at the masthead using an ATN 
climber.  I wondered whether this is really a job I want to keep doing.

 

Matt Wolford

Erie, PA

C&C 42 Custom

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Listers Age Range

 

56 here.  Between sailing and flying I sometimes think I will be perpetually 
the youngest person doing it, neither seems to get much new blood. 

Glad to see a 35 year-old on the list!

Speaking of age, a broker told me C&C owners were terrible customers. He said 
something like ?Most people trade up every 3 to 5 years, you all keep boats for 
generations?

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com  

 

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At 58, I am about 15 years older than my boat.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dreuge via
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dreuge 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Listers Age Range

 

Human Age? 

 

How about the oldest and youngest of the C&C era vessel?  That would be an
interesting honor.

 

 

Regarding age spans, the limits are less meaning full.  For example, the
local amateur

radio club has about the same 35 - 86 limits, but mean of the distribution
is

likely 70.  On the other hand, the age spread of our clubs Viper fleet is
about 16 - 68,

with an average age in the 20s.

 

 

-
Paul E.

1981 C&C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

 

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Me---50
Freya IV C&C 35 Mk 1, 1972, Hull No. 150 (I believe).

Glen Eddie

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56 here.  Between sailing and flying I sometimes think I will be perpetually 
the youngest person doing it, neither seems to get much new blood.
Glad to see a 35 year-old on the list!
Speaking of age, a broker told me C&C owners were terrible customers. He said 
something like ?Most people trade up every 3 to 5 years, you all keep boats for 
generations?


Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



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Stus-List C&C Facebook page

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Y’all gotta get on this FB page!  Awesome info, photos and connections. 



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Yeah we may covet the non maintenance of stainless down here in the south but 
we are heat avoidant. 


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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 20:39:10 -0800
From: Jim Watts 
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Some boats can look good with hull windows, and properly engineered they
should not be a strength factor in the hull.
http://www.iconsailing.com/assets/homepage/k1087.jpg
Some boats look hideous with hull windows, and look like the boat will fold
on the dotted line.
https://www.oysteryachts.com/images/yachts/46/oyster_745_75ft_yacht_at_sea_on_body_of_water.jpg
It depends...

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 05:41, Rob Ball via CnC-List 
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> I would love to have Windows in the hull.
> But, as you mention they are always Ugly.
> For sure fitting them into an existing hull that was not built for it,
> would be very unwise.  There needs to be careful structure changes if a
> window is fitted . . . . .
> I dreamed of a full length stripe that was a window set into the hull,
> with occasional openings inside.  You could get the windows and a good
> looking boat. Alas, pretty hard to accomplish. The differing expansion and
> contraction of different materials with temperature changes, etc.
> Some of the Baltic's these days have opening 'doors' in the hull.  You can
> imagine the engineering that goes into something like that to make the boat
> safe . . . . .
> Maybe in my next life . . . . .
>
> Rob Ball.  C&C 34
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Bev:

    Given that you started off with ?Just doing the teak handrails,? I assume 
that your interest is limited to ?how? and not ?whether.?  If you are 
considering going to stainless, I have done so on two boats and have been very 
pleased.  However: a) stainless (although stronger and maintenance free) can be 
a little slippery when wet; and b) despite Herculean template efforts, we were 
never able to get the bolts on the replacement rails lined up perfectly with 
the old bolts holes, so some filling and drilling was required.  On my 34, the 
handrail came with bolts welded in place, so we could see where the holes 
needed to go (they still needed to be oversized for some installation ?play?).  
On my current boat, the handrail design had changed, and the ?feet? have nuts 
welded in place (so you use regular bolts from the inside).  To deal with this, 
I screwed some small pieces of threaded rod into the feet so I could determine 
where the bolt holes should go.  In addition, the heat of welding the nuts in 
place can distort threads, and Whitewater Marine did not re-tap the threads on 
the feet as they should have.  As a result, we broke off two bolts on my 
current boat before we figured out what was going on.  In short, going to 
stainless will likely be more of a project, but they?re very strong, 
maintenance free, and you?ll only do it once.

    If you are only concerned about whether or not to epoxy, my understanding 
is that if water gets into epoxy-entombed wood, the wood can rot from the 
inside without fair warning.  Probably better to go with a UV-protectant 
varnish which, unlike with stainless, you will be doing again someday.

    Good luck.

    Matt

From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 10:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Conklin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Epoxy or not.

Me too 2nd  the vote for the stainless! 

https://drive.google.com/ope

Stus-List C&C as offshore boat

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

I 

I’ve always read that all C&Cs were “coastal cruisers”.  The odd boat that 
lands in New Zealand or the Med were lucky with weather windows but I 
personally would not bank on traveling the world in any of them. Too light in 
build compared to other true offshore boats. I sailed to Bermuda to Brazil thru 
the  Caribbean in a British built Bowman and never felt safer even in 50 mph 
gales. Would never do that in my 33. Great boat tho and have sailed her from 
Savannah to the  Chesapeake and back. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:50:09 -0400
From: Joel Aronson 
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Shawn,

I'm still lurking here.  My 35-3, a 37, Impromptu, and Rick's LF 38 have
all been to Bermuda.  Personally, I consider 35 the minimum for offshore,
but obviously, others have different standards.

Never saw winds over 30 (on the return) and never felt unsafe.

Joel
Formerly The Office

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm going to switch things up a bit from the gloomy topic of my current
> boat purchase: how many of you have taken your C&C offshore, and if so,
> which boat, where to, and how did it manage the conditions? If you have not
> gone offshore, what are the worst conditions you've experienced in a C&C,
> and how would the performance of the boat in these conditions make you feel
> about taking it offshore?
>
> One of the very first boats we looked at was a Westsail 32 (don't laugh),
> partly because they are proven world cruisers, and the boat has been from
> BC to NZ and back. But with our fickle air in the summer here, a good light
> air boat seems like a better choice, but I also want something that can
> take a beating without worrying about our safety.
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Stus-List Downsides to having a boat on the hard?

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,  Are there any advantages to having a boat on the hard for 3-5 yrs? 
 Any disadvantages besides obvious non use of her?  TIA. BLHicksonFlight Risk 
33-1Chas., SC
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Stus-List Re: Fwd: Read Sarah’s review

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Barbara L. Hickson 

On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 08:06:14 AM EDT, Joel Delamirande via 
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Stus-List C&C 33-1 for sale

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2941492836092130/ Barbara L. Hickson

Please spread the word. Lovely ‘76  33-1 for sale in Charleston due to 
health/financial issues. Great boat, hate to lose her but life happens. cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list

Stus-List Masthead sheave dimensions

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

Would anyone know the masthead sheave dimensions (or know who to call) for a 
'76 C & C 33-1? Trying to avoid more trips up mast than necessary. TIA. 
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