On my '76 33-1, the cockpit drains into thru hulls with inline ball valves in a 
y configuration below the cockpit floor and then straight down thru the hull, 
well beneath the waterline. It appears from line drawings that this is the only 
practical configuration. If the drains were rerouted to either side of the hull 
or to the stern above the waterline, there would a) not be enough slope, and b) 
the outlets would allow water back into the cockpit when heeling or with a 
following wave. Has anyone done this, or am I correct in my assessment?  Has 
anyone used marelon replacement flanged seacocks?  Their video says they are to 
be screwed only to a backing plate and not screwed all the way thru the hull. 
Seems like a good solution if it works. Thx for any input. Barbara 
Hickson"Flight Risk" '76 33-1Charleston, SC


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Today's Topics:

  1.  Diesel in bilge (Francois Rivard)
  2. Re:  Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 (Hoyt, Mike)
  3. Re:  Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 (John Irvin)
  4. Re:  Diesel in bilge (Josh Muckley)
  5. Re:  Diesel in bilge (dwight veinot)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:56:11 -0400
From: Francois Rivard <jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List  Diesel in bilge
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Hi,

You should take a look at the lines and check for cracks in the Racor
housing..  My engine developed loss of power / stalling issues last year
and it was related to an air leak, once we started looking at the fuel
system in details we found issues everywhere.

I'm not kidding. My lift pump was tired, the fuel hoses had small cracks,
there was a problem with the one-way valve at the tank (Not needed, I just
removed that), and even my Racor housing was cracked so I replaced
everything: the lines, the Racor and housing/mounting, the lift pump, the
one way valve was removed, all is fresh from the tank to the block and the
engine runs fine  / the cold starts are much quicker.

Good luck with it.

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 16:56:59 +0000
From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
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Paul

I looked at your engine rebuilt post.  What a daunting job!

Great work

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

John,

Wally?s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.  There are several other 
Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
just the first few which come up on a google search.

I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
link to my project page.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 17:20:55 +0000
From: John Irvin <skis...@outlook.com>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
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So far I have not seen anything about rigging - inspections, checks, 
replacement?

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On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Paul

I looked at your engine rebuilt post.  What a daunting job!

Great work

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

John,

Wally?s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.  There are several other 
Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
just the first few which come up on a google search.

I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
link to my project page.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 15:30:04 -0400
From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge
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Remember too that if there is fuel in the fill hose that there is fuel in
the vent hose.  Often times the vent hose isn't inspected or replaced at
the same periodicity.

Main Sailor did some experimenting with fuel tanks and condensation.  FWIW
he did not find that any more condensation accumulated in a partial tank.
As such I take a different approach to fueling my boat.  Typically I won't
use the entire 40 gallon capacity of my tank in a single year.  So unless
I'm going on a long trip I only fuel up with 10 to 15 gallons.  I try to
plan it so that I can fill via jerry cans through a filter funnel.  At
roughly 1 gallon per hour I know that I'm good for 10+ hours at full load.
It only takes about 30 minutes to motor out and motor in so I get a minimum
of 10 day sails between fill ups and that is very conservative.  By filling
in this manner my fuel always stays fresh and any minor contaminants will
get diluted by the next fill up.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Aug 1, 2017 9:23 AM, "robert via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sailed yesterday, got back to the slip, crack open a beer but smell diesel
> fuel in the cabin. Check the bilge and there is about 500 mls of fluid
> there......half water and half diesel....I take it out with a sponge, first
> in a clear plastic container where you can clearly see two different
> liquids then pour it in a plastic bottle to dispose at our recycle depot at
> the club.  The bottle holds 555 mls and it was almost full so I know how
> much diesel there was. Couldn't find the source yesterday.  The other day,
> I filled the fuel tank, over filled it almost to the deck.  Thinking it
> may have expanded in the heat but it should have gone overboard from the
> overfill hose.  Bottom of fuel tank was dry.  No loss of engine power so
> the fuel line doesn't seem to be leaking.  Mystery???
>
> Any ideas where I should concentrate on for the source of it?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 17:50:53 -0300
From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge
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I agree Robert, very likely what you suspect
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net



On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:22 AM, robert via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Sailed yesterday, got back to the slip, crack open a beer but smell diesel
> fuel in the cabin. Check the bilge and there is about 500 mls of fluid
> there......half water and half diesel....I take it out with a sponge, first
> in a clear plastic container where you can clearly see two different liquids
> then pour it in a plastic bottle to dispose at our recycle depot at the
> club.  The bottle holds 555 mls and it was almost full so I know how much
> diesel there was. Couldn't find the source yesterday.  The other day, I
> filled the fuel tank, over filled it almost to the deck.  Thinking it may
> have expanded in the heat but it should have gone overboard from the
> overfill hose.  Bottom of fuel tank was dry.  No loss of engine power so
> the fuel line doesn't seem to be leaking.  Mystery???
>
> Any ideas where I should concentrate on for the source of it?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
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