Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
I reprinted my pedestal circa 208 or 2009 when I was replacing the idler sheaves that are mounted on the plate below the cockpit sole. I did it off the boat and my pedestal is white (so less heat to impact the paint) but I have been pleased with the result and no current indication of decay in the finish. Since I had to remove the idler plate and all the wiring and cables, I took the pedestal home to work on it in the shop. Sanded the old surface with something like 120 grit to remove the loose powder coat and give some tooth for the paint. Primed with Rustoleum primer (think it was zinc chromate) and painted 3 or 4 coats of off white Rustoleum satin finish paint (2 cans worth IIRC). Now that I have said I'm pleased and the paint is lasting well, I expect to go to the boat and find it suddenly and unexpectedly flaking off. Oh well, just another project to add to the list. It is a boat, after all. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad > On Jun 29, 2014, at 22:47, Brad Crawford via CnC-List > wrote: > > Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been eroding > away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the pedestal and > have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc chromate primer and > black paint might get me by for a few year? What do you think? Anyone have > any luck with painting over the cancer while still on the boat? > > Thanks, > > Brad > CnC 36 > "Dora Pearl" > Seattle > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Tom, >> >> I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up well. >> The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a >> touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. >> >> Jake >> >> >> Jake Brodersen >> "Midnight Mistress" >> C&C 35 Mk-III >> Hampton Va >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom >> Buscaglia via CnC-List >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating >> >> The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have flaked >> off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... >> >> Tom Buscaglia >> S/V Arera >> 1990 C&C 37+/40 >> Vashon WA >> P 206.463.9200 >> >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List C&C 32 FatKat for sale in Swansee Mass
I don't know anything about this boat but, I used to keep my last boat at the Swansea Marina and it is pretty close by if I can help in any way. I do have friend still at the Swansea Marina. If that is where the boat is, I bet he could find some things out about it. Please note: message attached From: David Knecht via CnC-List To: CnC CnC discussion list Subject: Stus-List C&C 32 FatKat for sale in Swansee Mass Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:29:27 -0400 I have a friend who is considering purchase of a 1983 C&C 32 in Swansee MA named FatKat: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1983/C%26c-32-2725152/MA/United-States Does anyone know anything about the history of this boat, especially why there appears to be hull patches near the bow? Thanks-Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
Painting instructions from Edson: http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/eb95345.php Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I reprinted my pedestal circa 208 or 2009 when I was replacing the idler > sheaves that are mounted on the plate below the cockpit sole. I did it off > the boat and my pedestal is white (so less heat to impact the paint) but I > have been pleased with the result and no current indication of decay in the > finish. > > Since I had to remove the idler plate and all the wiring and cables, I > took the pedestal home to work on it in the shop. Sanded the old surface > with something like 120 grit to remove the loose powder coat and give some > tooth for the paint. Primed with Rustoleum primer (think it was zinc > chromate) and painted 3 or 4 coats of off white Rustoleum satin finish > paint (2 cans worth IIRC). > > Now that I have said I'm pleased and the paint is lasting well, I expect > to go to the boat and find it suddenly and unexpectedly flaking off. Oh > well, just another project to add to the list. It is a boat, after all. > > Rick Brass > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 29, 2014, at 22:47, Brad Crawford via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been > eroding away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the > pedestal and have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc > chromate primer and black paint might get me by for a few year? What do > you think? Anyone have any luck with painting over the cancer while still > on the boat? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brad > > CnC 36 > > "Dora Pearl" > > Seattle > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> > >> Tom, > >> > >> I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up > well. > >> The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a > >> touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. > >> > >> Jake > >> > >> > >> Jake Brodersen > >> "Midnight Mistress" > >> C&C 35 Mk-III > >> Hampton Va > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Buscaglia via CnC-List > >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM > >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >> Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating > >> > >> The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have > flaked > >> off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... > >> > >> Tom Buscaglia > >> S/V Arera > >> 1990 C&C 37+/40 > >> Vashon WA > >> P 206.463.9200 > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> > >> Email address: > >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > >> page at: > >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> > >> Email address: > >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom > of page at: > >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > ___ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
I am guessing they stripped the old ones with an acidic process, and it left the surface rough. I would have been better off sanding them all down instead of having them strip them. People in the plating business don't recommend black anodizing, because it does not last near as long as the natural color, which is, well, the natural color of aluminum. What I did do to them, is coat them with PPG Strataclear,(Hard automotive Clear Coat) which I used on the cabintop and areas of the deck not non-skid. This is still holding up well and looks better than as anodized. I think if you used a clear coating on a black paint, you would get much longer life. I also did a test with the Strataclear over varnished teak around my companionway, it is still great after 9 years. I am not sure why I don't do that on all my teak. It just seems too good to be true. . . . Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: Sebastien Lemieux [mailto:seb.lemi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lemieux Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: colt...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating I had my pedestal and pedestal guard feet (two cast aluminum blocks at the base of the guard) done last year by powder coating. I can confirm that on the feet, there was issue with the baking process. The end result is as if small bubbles of air were burst near the surface of the aluminum, producing a few patches of crater-filled landscape. The defect is very noticeable up close, but since I have reinstalled them I never noticed. When time comes to refinish the stanchions feet, I will avoid powder coating. I was leaning toward re-anodization. Bill, any reason it came out coarse? Best, -- Sébastien Lemieux Merlot X, C&C 30-2 1988 Lake Champlain On Jun 29, 2014, at 23:36 , Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: > A powder coating guy I spoke with a few years back told me that powder-coating wasn't recommended for aluminum castings, as the heat used to bake on the powder could cause the casting to fracture. > > Frederick G Street > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) > Bayfield, WI > >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been eroding away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the pedestal and have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc chromate primer and black paint might get me by for a few year? What do you think? Anyone have any luck with painting over the cancer while still on the boat? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brad >> CnC 36 >> "Dora Pearl" >> Seattle >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Tom, >>> >>> I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up well. >>> The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a >>> touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. >>> >>> Jake >>> >>> >>> Jake Brodersen >>> "Midnight Mistress" >>> C&C 35 Mk-III >>> Hampton Va >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Buscaglia via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating >>> >>> The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have flaked >>> off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... >>> >>> Tom Buscaglia >>> S/V Arera >>> 1990 C&C 37+/40 >>> Vashon WA >>> P 206.463.9200 >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferen
Stus-List Aluminum coating
After doing some research on that I decide to use the Birchwood Super Black Gun Touch Up Pen. It is a paint pen specifically designed to touch-up anodizing on guns and it does a wonderful job on aluminum. I've used it on the toe rail and on the eye for the stern dock lines. I bought it on Amazon for a few bucks here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WHANTA/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Some people use a heavy duty marker but I was afraid it would run making indelible zebra stripes on the topsides.. It blends in almost perfect, is surprisingly resistant to abrasion, and does not run at all.. Being at the stern that area is pretty much is the main drain for my decks and the worst offender for zebra stripes when the decks are dirty, after 2 months or so it's still spotless. Sending my toe rails out for re-anodizing was completely out of the question as they are fastened by being sandwiched between the hull and the deck using the deck / hull adhesive and attachment screws as anchor. -Francois 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, Georgia___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch
Does anyone happen to have an old hatch model 200 laying around? Somehow the frame broke coming back from Bermuda. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
Painted my black pedestal white using Brightside Matterhorn White in 2002. I have two small chips after all these years, but easily painted when I get around to it. Other prioities. I think any good quality paint by Interlux or even Rustoleum will work well as long as you prep the metal first by sanding to remove old loose paint, prep any bare spots w the etching primer and paint following the directions of the stuff you are using. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:55:51 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating Painting instructions from Edson: http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/eb95345.php Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: I reprinted my pedestal circa 208 or 2009 when I was replacing the idler sheaves that are mounted on the plate below the cockpit sole. I did it off the boat and my pedestal is white (so less heat to impact the paint) but I have been pleased with the result and no current indication of decay in the finish. Since I had to remove the idler plate and all the wiring and cables, I took the pedestal home to work on it in the shop. Sanded the old surface with something like 120 grit to remove the loose powder coat and give some tooth for the paint. Primed with Rustoleum primer (think it was zinc chromate) and painted 3 or 4 coats of off white Rustoleum satin finish paint (2 cans worth IIRC). Now that I have said I'm pleased and the paint is lasting well, I expect to go to the boat and find it suddenly and unexpectedly flaking off. Oh well, just another project to add to the list. It is a boat, after all. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad > On Jun 29, 2014, at 22:47, Brad Crawford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > wrote: > > Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been eroding > away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the pedestal and > have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc chromate primer and > black paint might get me by for a few year? What do you think? Anyone have > any luck with painting over the cancer while still on the boat? > > Thanks, > > Brad > CnC 36 > "Dora Pearl" > Seattle > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: >> >> Tom, >> >> I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up well. >> The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a >> touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. >> >> Jake >> >> >> Jake Brodersen >> "Midnight Mistress" >> C&C 35 Mk-III >> Hampton Va >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Tom >> Buscaglia via CnC-List >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating >> >> The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have flaked >> off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... >> >> Tom Buscaglia >> S/V Arera >> 1990 C&C 37+/40 >> Vashon WA >> P 206.463.9200 >> >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@
Re: Stus-List pointing problem
Hi David, Curious why your complaint of pointing seems focused on the rig? What is your tacking angle? It should be 90 degrees or less. Write down your compass headings on each tack next time sailing and see what angles you are actually sailing? How far from center is the helm? How many spokes from center do you need on the wheel? Ours is typically one spoke from center but as we get powered up and overpowered, it may be two spokes. More than that and we adjust sails, flatten the sails or drop the traveller or shorten sail. Assuming you have good boat speed we can rule out the bottom but be aware to win races, you need to have a better bottom than the fleet. Just saying. If they are burnishing their bottom, you have to also. Things you can always improve on: Sail trim, steering to telltales, heel angle, crew on the rail? Are you steering as high as your telltales allow? Are you playing the windshifts? Did you copy the 35 MkIII ahead of you? Are you pinching? Are you heeling more than the competitors? Are the other boats better prepped? Are your Keel and rudder foils in good shape; properly foiled and faired smooth? Are the competition's sails in better condition? Is your prop feathered or folded and shaft locked? There are some excellent books and videos on sail trim and racing strategies I can recommend? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:27:26 PM Subject: Stus-List Rigging Problem Great wind for a Wednesday evening club race, great start, and then got smoked by three other boats one of which was another C&C 35 MK3. I had just had the bottom cleaned, had plenty of boat speed but I just couldn’t point as high as the others. Any suggestions on where I should start to look for an answer? Dave Saltaire C&C 35 MK3 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
Well my black anodizing lasted 37 years - how bad can it be? sam :-) Original Message From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:07 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating I am guessing they stripped the old ones with an acidic process, and it left the surface rough. I would have been better off sanding them all down instead of having them strip them. People in the plating business don't recommend black anodizing, because it does not last near as long as the natural color, which is, well, the natural color of aluminum. What I did do to them, is coat them with PPG Strataclear,(Hard automotive Clear Coat) which I used on the cabintop and areas of the deck not non-skid. This is still holding up well and looks better than as anodized. I think if you used a clear coating on a black paint, you would get much longer life. I also did a test with the Strataclear over varnished teak around my companionway, it is still great after 9 years. I am not sure why I don't do that on all my teak. It just seems too good to be true. . . . Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: Sebastien Lemieux [mailto:seb.lemi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lemieux Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: colt...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating I had my pedestal and pedestal guard feet (two cast aluminum blocks at the base of the guard) done last year by powder coating. I can confirm that on the feet, there was issue with the baking process. The end result is as if small bubbles of air were burst near the surface of the aluminum, producing a few patches of crater-filled landscape. The defect is very noticeable up close, but since I have reinstalled them I never noticed. When time comes to refinish the stanchions feet, I will avoid powder coating. I was leaning toward re-anodization. Bill, any reason it came out coarse? Best, -- Sébastien Lemieux Merlot X, C&C 30-2 1988 Lake Champlain On Jun 29, 2014, at 23:36 , Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: > A powder coating guy I spoke with a few years back told me that powder-coating wasn't recommended for aluminum castings, as the heat used to bake on the powder could cause the casting to fracture. > > Frederick G Street > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) > Bayfield, WI > >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been eroding away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the pedestal and have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc chromate primer and black paint might get me by for a few year? What do you think? Anyone have any luck with painting over the cancer while still on the boat? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brad >> CnC 36 >> "Dora Pearl" >> Seattle >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Tom, >>> >>> I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up well. >>> The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a >>> touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. >>> >>> Jake >>> >>> >>> Jake Brodersen >>> "Midnight Mistress" >>> C&C 35 Mk-III >>> Hampton Va >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Buscaglia via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating >>> >>> The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have flaked >>> off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... >>> >>> Tom Buscaglia >>> S/V Arera >>> 1990 C&C 37+/40 >>> Vashon WA >>> P 206.463.9200 >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bo
Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
I just had mine powder coated, no issues. And the Edson instructions Steven cited say the pedestals are powder coated. So I think those fears are unfounded. Previous boat - I had the pedestal Awlgrip'd, it came out well but I chipped the damn paint while installing it. Powder coating was 1/2 the price I paid for the Awlgrip job, and looks good so far. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2014-06-30 12:36 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: A powder coating guy I spoke with a few years back told me that powder-coating wasn't recommended for aluminum castings, as the heat used to bake on the powder could cause the casting to fracture. Frederick G Street S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) Bayfield, WI On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List wrote: Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been eroding away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the pedestal and have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc chromate primer and black paint might get me by for a few year? What do you think? Anyone have any luck with painting over the cancer while still on the boat? Thanks, Brad CnC 36 "Dora Pearl" Seattle Sent from my iPad On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote: Tom, I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up well. The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have flaked off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... Tom Buscaglia S/V Arera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List pointing problem
Might also want to note the difference in course over ground on each tack. Comparing the tacking angle (heading) vs tacking angle (course made good) may indicate show excessive leeway. That may indicate sails trimmed too much, excess heel, etc. I don't have a good feel for an acceptable leeway for a 35-3 in those conditions. I'm guessing 5-7 degrees low of course steered??? Dennis C. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > Hi David, > Curious why your complaint of pointing seems focused on the rig? > What is your tacking angle? It should be 90 degrees or less. > Write down your compass headings on each tack next time sailing and see > what angles you are actually sailing? > How far from center is the helm? How many spokes from center do you need > on the wheel? Ours is typically one spoke from center but as we get > powered up and overpowered, it may be two spokes. More than that and we > adjust sails, flatten the sails or drop the traveller or shorten sail. > > Assuming you have good boat speed we can rule out the bottom but be aware > to win races, you need to have a better bottom than the fleet. Just > saying. If they are burnishing their bottom, you have to also. > > Things you can always improve on: > Sail trim, steering to telltales, heel angle, crew on the rail? Are you > steering as high as your telltales allow? Are you playing the windshifts? > Did you copy the 35 MkIII ahead of you? Are you pinching? Are you heeling > more than the competitors?Are the other boats better prepped? Are your > Keel and rudder foils in good shape; properly foiled and faired smooth? > Are the competition's sails in better condition? Is your prop feathered > or folded and shaft locked? > > There are some excellent books and videos on sail trim and racing > strategies I can recommend? > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > -- > *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > *To: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > *Sent: *Friday, June 27, 2014 2:27:26 PM > *Subject: *Stus-List Rigging Problem > > Great wind for a Wednesday evening club race, great start, and then got > smoked by three other boats one of which was another C&C 35 MK3. I had just > had the bottom cleaned, had plenty of boat speed but I just couldn’t point > as high as the others. > > > > Any suggestions on where I should start to look for an answer? > > > > Dave > > Saltaire > > C&C 35 MK3 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating
Another option if you decide to remove the pedestal to have it painted, price a new pedestal, maybe the newer style? Just sayin. - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Frederick G Street" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:21:37 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum coating I just had mine powder coated, no issues. And the Edson instructions Steven cited say the pedestals are powder coated. So I think those fears are unfounded. Previous boat - I had the pedestal Awlgrip'd, it came out well but I chipped the damn paint while installing it. Powder coating was 1/2 the price I paid for the Awlgrip job, and looks good so far. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2014-06-30 12:36 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: > A powder coating guy I spoke with a few years back told me that > powder-coating wasn't recommended for aluminum castings, as the heat used to > bake on the powder could cause the casting to fracture. > > Frederick G Street > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) > Bayfield, WI > >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Do you think it would work well on a black pedestal? Mine has been eroding >> away in a few spots over the years. Might be best to remove the pedestal and >> have the whole thing powder coated, but maybe the zinc chromate primer and >> black paint might get me by for a few year? What do you think? Anyone have >> any luck with painting over the cancer while still on the boat? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brad >> CnC 36 >> "Dora Pearl" >> Seattle >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> >>> Tom, >>> >>> I've used zinc chromate primer and black spray paint. It has held up well. >>> The primer has a tenacious hold, while the black spray paint may need a >>> touch up after a couple of years. Overall, I'd say it works well. >>> >>> Jake >>> >>> >>> Jake Brodersen >>> "Midnight Mistress" >>> C&C 35 Mk-III >>> Hampton Va >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Buscaglia via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:27 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Stus-List Aluminum coating >>> >>> The black coating on the stanchion bases along the rail on Alera have >>> flaked >>> off in a few spots. I bet someone here has dealt with this issue... >>> >>> Tom Buscaglia >>> S/V Arera >>> 1990 C&C 37+/40 >>> Vashon WA >>> P 206.463.9200 >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List swan
This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this C&C related. Why do Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money? I understand they're very well built boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs over 20 times more than a C&C of comparable size. Blisters and all! Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg ( will never afford a swan) Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
