Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet

[Stevan Plavsa]

I wouldn't mind seeing a pic of the 6:1. I have to do something about the
sheeting configuration on Suhaha.

Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Sent you pic and info off list on Touche's 6:1 system.
>
> Dennis C..
>
>   --
>  *From:* "Della Barba, Joe" 
> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2013 6:49 AM
> *Subject:* Stus-List 6 part mainsheet
>
> I was sailing aboard The Office, a 35 MK III, last week and really liked
> the 6:1 Garhauer mainsheet system. My boat has the stock 3:1 system that
> runs forward to the mast and then aft to a cabin top winch. If I had this
> 6:1 system I could adjust the main from the helm, which would be nice. Does
> anyone know any reason this would not work on a MK I?
>
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Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location

[Michael Clow]

I have the same arrangement on my C&C 32 and highly recommend it.  The
biggest reason was so when short handed the driver can have access to the
main sheet.  The other big reason is the responsiveness, especially on
jibes.  Late last season we added a main sheet fine tuning block setup.  The
classic arrangement is to put it between the two big main sheet 6 to 1
blocks BUT this did not work because there was not enough vertical distance
between them.  So we were able to put the fine tuner horizontally on the
boom.  I will take a picture this evening and post to the web and send along
a link. 

 

Michael Clow

  Desire, C&C 32, Lake St. Clair

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Knecht
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location

 

I had a traveller forward of the companionway on my previous 34 and now my
newer 34+.  On the 34, I added a triple block with becket and cam (Lewmar)
on the traveller so I had 6:1 up and down to the boom.  It worked much more
smoothly than going around all the corners of the stock arrangement.  I run
the mainsheet back to the helm and when shorthanded and can adjust the main
easily without going forward to a winch unless it was blowing pretty hard.
I also added a Garhauer vang and instead of the traveller, I used the vang
(vang sheeting) so that the main sheet controlled the boom in and out and
the vang up and down. Far easier when shorthanded than going up to the
coachroof to make adjustments.  

 

Last week, I finally put together the same thing on my newer 34+.  I used a
Garhauer triple block (becket cam) which was about half the price of Harken
or Lewmar and far beefier in construction.  The main seems to be
significantly larger than my 34 because it is significantly harder to adjust
by hand when blowing, but I can run it to a winch on the coach roof when it
blows and the downward angle bypasses the cam.  So I would say that for any
boat up to about 34', the 6:1 works great.  I would think harder about it
above 34.  Dave

 

On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:





On my old C&C 24 I had the traveller aft of the companion way (almost a foot
aft). It was great for handling the main (I also had a good Harken traveller
car there), but it was a major pain for anyone going inside. My admiral
hated it. To the point that the hard requirement for the new(er) boat was
that it had the traveller on the cabin top.

 

Now we have an easy access below, but the sail trimming is more complicated.

 

Marek 

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Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet

[Joel Aronson]

Steve,

Sent you a photo off the list.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

> I wouldn't mind seeing a pic of the 6:1. I have to do something about the
> sheeting configuration on Suhaha.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Dennis C.  wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Sent you pic and info off list on Touche's 6:1 system.
>>
>> Dennis C..
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* "Della Barba, Joe" 
>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2013 6:49 AM
>> *Subject:* Stus-List 6 part mainsheet
>>
>> I was sailing aboard The Office, a 35 MK III, last week and really liked
>> the 6:1 Garhauer mainsheet system. My boat has the stock 3:1 system that
>> runs forward to the mast and then aft to a cabin top winch. If I had this
>> 6:1 system I could adjust the main from the helm, which would be nice. Does
>> anyone know any reason this would not work on a MK I?
>>
>> *Joe Della Barba*
>> *Coquina *
>> *C&C 35 MK I*
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Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location

[Ron Casciato]

On Impromptu, '77C&C 38MKIIC, Original Traveller on the bridge deck just
outside of the companionway..no problems with dodger attachment: Added a
separate boom bail just aft of the dodger edge.slight aft pull on the
traveller car but no ill effects after over 10 yearswe don't use the
dodger when racing so we switch to the bail above the car then.

 

All Garhauer parts, even replaced the original Schaefer traveller with
Garhauer Traveller with holes matched by Guido so no additional drilling
required.  Had the Garhauer car made with the traveller controls mounted on
the car with cam cleatsthat works fine, but for racing, we now like
the traveller controls led to the side and up to a cam cleat on each side.
That keeps the main trimmer out of the cockpit and on the high side for
traveller adjustment.  

 

For cruising, the traveller can be led to the side and back to the helm
through another cam cleat for helm adjustment.  That also works fine.

 

6:1 blocks were coupled with a 4:1 fine trimming set (see the Harken
drawings in their catalogue for such a system).  The end result is a great
24:1 main sheet system that provides all the effort you'll ever need.

 

Pictures available on request.

 

Ron C.

 

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Clow
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location

 

I have the same arrangement on my C&C 32 and highly recommend it.  The
biggest reason was so when short handed the driver can have access to the
main sheet.  The other big reason is the responsiveness, especially on
jibes.  Late last season we added a main sheet fine tuning block setup.  The
classic arrangement is to put it between the two big main sheet 6 to 1
blocks BUT this did not work because there was not enough vertical distance
between them.  So we were able to put the fine tuner horizontally on the
boom.  I will take a picture this evening and post to the web and send along
a link. 

 

Michael Clow

Desire  , C&C 32, Lake St. Clair

 

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Knecht
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location

 

I had a traveller forward of the companionway on my previous 34 and now my
newer 34+.  On the 34, I added a triple block with becket and cam (Lewmar)
on the traveller so I had 6:1 up and down to the boom.  It worked much more
smoothly than going around all the corners of the stock arrangement.  I run
the mainsheet back to the helm and when shorthanded and can adjust the main
easily without going forward to a winch unless it was blowing pretty hard.
I also added a Garhauer vang and instead of the traveller, I used the vang
(vang sheeting) so that the main sheet controlled the boom in and out and
the vang up and down. Far easier when shorthanded than going up to the
coachroof to make adjustments.  

 

Last week, I finally put together the same thing on my newer 34+.  I used a
Garhauer triple block (becket cam) which was about half the price of Harken
or Lewmar and far beefier in construction.  The main seems to be
significantly larger than my 34 because it is significantly harder to adjust
by hand when blowing, but I can run it to a winch on the coach roof when it
blows and the downward angle bypasses the cam.  So I would say that for any
boat up to about 34', the 6:1 works great.  I would think harder about it
above 34.  Dave

 

On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:

 

On my old C&C 24 I had the traveller aft of the companion way (almost a foot
aft). It was great for handling the main (I also had a good Harken traveller
car there), but it was a major pain for anyone going inside. My admiral
hated it. To the point that the hard requirement for the new(er) boat was
that it had the traveller on the cabin top.

 

Now we have an easy access below, but the sail trimming is more complicated.

 

Marek 

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Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

[Edd Schillay]

I would like to volunteer to run next year's event -- hopefully late August and 
a spot a little more west, like Cedar Island Marina in CLinton CT.



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:40 PM, David Risch  wrote:

> Rob,
> 
> Thanks again for carrying the the torch forward this year.   Good times with 
> great people in a great venue (damn good beer too!)
> 
> We already have a volunteer who will carry it forward again next year so 
> please look for e-mails late this year for a new dates and location.
> 
> Have a great fall!
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:13:30 -0400
> From: trys...@gmail.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous
> 
> As I walk the docks with beer in one hand, cigar in the other, all the 
> sailors nestled in their berths, i gaze at each transom and say thanks to 
> everyone who made this year's event a smashing success.
> 
> C&C yachts, Good Old Boat Magazine, Mohegan Sun, Rob Ball, David Risch, those 
> who came by boat, plane and ferry, happy sailing to all and to all a good 
> night
> 
> Till next year...
> 
> Rob
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Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

[Edd Schillay]

Joel,

I think so. 

Plus, CI Marina has floating slips, a pool, a recreation area, a game 
room, an on-site seafood restaurant and, for those who want to give up all hope 
for a new set of sails anytime soon, a free shuttle for the spouses to the 
Clinton Outlet Malls. 

I stopped there last year on the way back from the Mystic Rendezvous 
and found the location phenomenal (and for those who can appreciate the Star 
Trek II reference, they put me on a dock next to a motorboat named "Reliant". 

For those coming by land, it's a few minutes off I-95 in the 60s. And, 
accessible by train too. 

I'm happy to arrange and set it all up. 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> Edd,
> 
> That's awesome!  I think you would get people from the Chesapeake and beyond 
> who would arrive by land if it were a little more west.
> 
> Joel
> Annapolis
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:
> I would like to volunteer to run next year's event -- hopefully late August 
> and a spot a little more west, like Cedar Island Marina in CLinton CT.
> 
> 
>   
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:40 PM, David Risch  wrote:
> 
>> Rob,
>> 
>> Thanks again for carrying the the torch forward this year.   Good times with 
>> great people in a great venue (damn good beer too!)
>> 
>> We already have a volunteer who will carry it forward again next year so 
>> please look for e-mails late this year for a new dates and location.
>> 
>> Have a great fall!
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:13:30 -0400
>> From: trys...@gmail.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous
>> 
>> As I walk the docks with beer in one hand, cigar in the other, all the 
>> sailors nestled in their berths, i gaze at each transom and say thanks to 
>> everyone who made this year's event a smashing success.
>> 
>> C&C yachts, Good Old Boat Magazine, Mohegan Sun, Rob Ball, David Risch, 
>> those who came by boat, plane and ferry, happy sailing to all and to all a 
>> good night
>> 
>> Till next year...
>> 
>> Rob
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Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II

[Alex Giannelia]

Hi all,

More on my Edson steering rebuild.  In the Edson catalogue, they show 2 
different styles of rudder stops.  When I poked my nose under the sole, I 
noticed there never were any, just some wear marks on the fiberglass cloth.  
What do the other boats have?



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Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

[David Risch]

Rob,

Thanks again for carrying the the torch forward this year.   Good times with 
great people in a great venue (damn good beer too!)

We already have a volunteer who will carry it forward again next year so please 
look for e-mails late this year for a new dates and location.

Have a great fall!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:13:30 -0400
From: trys...@gmail.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

As I walk the docks with beer in one hand, cigar in the other, all the sailors 
nestled in their berths, i gaze at each transom and say thanks to everyone who 
made this year's event a smashing success.


C&C yachts, Good Old Boat Magazine, Mohegan Sun, Rob Ball, David Risch, those 
who came by boat, plane and ferry, happy sailing to all and to all a good night

Till next year...

Rob

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Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

[Joel Aronson]

Edd,

That's awesome!  I think you would get people from the Chesapeake and
beyond who would arrive by land if it were a little more west.

Joel
Annapolis


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> I would like to volunteer to run next year's event -- hopefully late
> August and a spot a little more west, like Cedar Island Marina in CLinton
> CT.
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:40 PM, David Risch  wrote:
>
> Rob,
>
> Thanks again for carrying the the torch forward this year.   Good times
> with great people in a great venue (damn good beer too!)
>
> We already have a volunteer who will carry it forward again next year so
> please look for e-mails late this year for a new dates and location.
>
> Have a great fall!
>
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:13:30 -0400
> From: trys...@gmail.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous
>
> As I walk the docks with beer in one hand, cigar in the other, all the
> sailors nestled in their berths, i gaze at each transom and say thanks to
> everyone who made this year's event a smashing success.
>
> C&C yachts, Good Old Boat Magazine, Mohegan Sun, Rob Ball, David Risch,
> those who came by boat, plane and ferry, happy sailing to all and to all a
> good night
>
> Till next year...
>
> Rob
>
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Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

[Jerome Tauber]

I like Essex or Stonington better.   More scenic and more restaurants.  Will 
definitely attend next year.  Jerry Tauber - C&C 27-5 Fast Lane.  
 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous



I can suggest and provide contacts for Centerport Yacht Club if interested


John


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:



I would like to volunteer to run next year's event -- hopefully late August and 
a spot a little more west, like Cedar Island Marina in CLinton CT.





All the best,


Edd




Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website


On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:40 PM, David Risch  wrote:



Rob,

Thanks again for carrying the the torch forward this year.   Good times with 
great people in a great venue (damn good beer too!)

We already have a volunteer who will carry it forward again next year so please 
look for e-mails late this year for a new dates and location.

Have a great fall!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)




Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:13:30 -0400
From: trys...@gmail.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

As I walk the docks with beer in one hand, cigar in the other, all the sailors 
nestled in their berths, i gaze at each transom and say thanks to everyone who 
made this year's event a smashing success.


C&C yachts, Good Old Boat Magazine, Mohegan Sun, Rob Ball, David Risch, those 
who came by boat, plane and ferry, happy sailing to all and to all a good night



Till next year...


Rob

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Re: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous

[j...@svpaws.net]

I can suggest and provide contacts for Centerport Yacht Club if interested

John


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> I would like to volunteer to run next year's event -- hopefully late August 
> and a spot a little more west, like Cedar Island Marina in CLinton CT.
> 
> 
>   
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:40 PM, David Risch  wrote:
> 
>> Rob,
>> 
>> Thanks again for carrying the the torch forward this year.   Good times with 
>> great people in a great venue (damn good beer too!)
>> 
>> We already have a volunteer who will carry it forward again next year so 
>> please look for e-mails late this year for a new dates and location.
>> 
>> Have a great fall!
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:13:30 -0400
>> From: trys...@gmail.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List 2013 Northeast Rendezvous
>> 
>> As I walk the docks with beer in one hand, cigar in the other, all the 
>> sailors nestled in their berths, i gaze at each transom and say thanks to 
>> everyone who made this year's event a smashing success.
>> 
>> C&C yachts, Good Old Boat Magazine, Mohegan Sun, Rob Ball, David Risch, 
>> those who came by boat, plane and ferry, happy sailing to all and to all a 
>> good night
>> 
>> Till next year...
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II

[Indigo]

If I remember correctly, on my 35MkIII I have two metal (aluminum?)  "pins"
that are bolted / attached to the quadrant. They are perhaps 1/2 inch
diameter and stand up about 2 inches.  They are covered in rubber sleeves.
When the wheel is turned fully on obe direction, the appropriate side "pin"
rests against what looks like a glass-fiber "block" that is fixed / part of
the hull. The rubber presumably takes out some of the shock


Jonathan

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Giannelia
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II

Hi all,

More on my Edson steering rebuild.  In the Edson catalogue, they show 2
different styles of rudder stops.  When I poked my nose under the sole, I
noticed there never were any, just some wear marks on the fiberglass cloth.
What do the other boats have?



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President
the airborne sensing corporation

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Re: Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II

[Della Barba, Joe]

I have rudder stops. They are pieces of aluminum that limit how far you can 
turn the quadrant. I can take photos if you want.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Giannelia
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Hi all,

More on my Edson steering rebuild.  In the Edson catalogue, they show 2 
different styles of rudder stops.  When I poked my nose under the sole, I 
noticed there never were any, just some wear marks on the fiberglass cloth.  
What do the other boats have?



Alexander M. Giannelia, B.A.A.
President
the airborne sensing corporation

555 Richmond Street West  Suite 912, PO Box 1008  TORONTO, Ontario  M5V 3B1  
Canada
Phone (416) 203-9858    Fax (416) 203-9843  Mobile (416) 529-0070

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Re: Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II

[Frederick G Street]

Sounds the same as the arrangement on my LF38; due to the extreme tightness of 
the space around the quadrant (it's immediately above the fuel tank and below 
the cockpit sole), the stop blocks are mounted to the underside of the cockpit 
sole.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 10, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Indigo  wrote:

> If I remember correctly, on my 35MkIII I have two metal (aluminum?)  "pins"
> that are bolted / attached to the quadrant. They are perhaps 1/2 inch
> diameter and stand up about 2 inches.  They are covered in rubber sleeves.
> When the wheel is turned fully on obe direction, the appropriate side "pin"
> rests against what looks like a glass-fiber "block" that is fixed / part of
> the hull. The rubber presumably takes out some of the shock
> 
> 
> Jonathan

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Re: Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II

[Edd Schillay]

All,

I believe mine is set up the same way. 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Indigo"  wrote:

> If I remember correctly, on my 35MkIII I have two metal (aluminum?)  "pins"
> that are bolted / attached to the quadrant. They are perhaps 1/2 inch
> diameter and stand up about 2 inches.  They are covered in rubber sleeves.
> When the wheel is turned fully on obe direction, the appropriate side "pin"
> rests against what looks like a glass-fiber "block" that is fixed / part of
> the hull. The rubber presumably takes out some of the shock
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
> Giannelia
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:20 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Rudder Stops 35-II
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> More on my Edson steering rebuild.  In the Edson catalogue, they show 2
> different styles of rudder stops.  When I poked my nose under the sole, I
> noticed there never were any, just some wear marks on the fiberglass cloth.
> What do the other boats have?
> 
> 
> 
> Alexander M. Giannelia, B.A.A.
> President
> the airborne sensing corporation
> 
> 555 Richmond Street West  Suite 912, PO Box 1008  TORONTO, Ontario  M5V 3B1
>  Canada
> Phone (416) 203-9858Fax (416) 203-9843  Mobile (416) 529-0070
> 
> * Notre site web est aussi disponible en français! www.airsensing.com
> 
> 
> * Notre site web est aussi disponible en français! www.airsensing.com
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet

[Alan Bergen]

My boat came with a 6 part mainsheet arrangement, but I switched to a three 
part and self-tailing winch. The problem with the former arrangement: In light 
air, when rounding the windward mark, the main wouldn't go out without someone 
pushing the boom out. When rounding the leeward mark, it took too long to trim 
in the main (the sheet was twice as long). In heavy air, it was difficult for 
the crew to release the sheet from the cam cleat. The present arrangement works 
better on Thirsty. 


Alan Bergen 
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

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Re: Stus-List Might as well call it the Kiwi Kup now

[Bob Moriarty]

No YouTube coverage in USA today.
How about up there in Canada?
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Oracle blows another one.  Kiwis 4 Oracle -1.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
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Stus-List Might as well call it the Kiwi Kup now

[Dennis C.]

Oracle blows another one.  Kiwis 4 Oracle -1.


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Stus-List New Boat

[Dr. Mark Bodnar]

Ok.  So I'm throwing caution into the wind, at least a bit.

I have an accepted offer on the C&C29 Mk2 in Maine that I mentioned to 
the list a while back.

http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/4001084479.html
For $8000.

Having looked a several boats locally (2 C&C29's I quite liked but 
neither would settle for less than $20K, plus a few other boats), and 
given the various options avail I decided that this was my best option.  
I think I would have liked to get the CS30, but doubtful they would have 
dropped the price to where I would have wanted it.


Little risky making an offer on an unseen boat. I feel like I almost 
can't go wrong for $8000.  Thank's to Bill for trying to get out to see 
it.  The seller has been good about giving me info on the boat, and as 
best I can tell (emails and a phone conversation) seems honest -- I may 
regret that assumption, but the offer is contingent on a survey - so if 
there are any major issues then I'll likely just walk away.  I likely 
wouldn't bother with a survey if I was able to see it personally, but I 
think it's prudent in this case, and will also give me a heads up on 
issues I need to address once I have the boat in my possession.


Now the logistics.  Bill Burketts suggested a surveyor in the area (not 
sure how close) - Gene Barnes.  Anyone have any other suggestions?


Plus the issue of getting the boat home.  I've posted a listing on 
uShip, but we are thinking about just going and hauling it back. I have 
access to a truck that can haul 10-11000lbs, and access to a trailer 
that can hold 14000lbs (I need to confirm that these will work together!)
The boat is currently on jack stands.  I'm thinking either I buy or 
borrow a local cradle.
Does anyone have measurements on the proper cradle base size and pad 
spacing for a 29 II?

There is a steel cradle for sale not far away
http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-other-Steel-Sailboat-Cradle-for-Sale-W0QQAdIdZ509847290
I'm trying to figure out if it will fit the boat properly - seems short 
to me.


For that matter - anyone near Halifax have a sailboat trailer that would 
fit a C&C 29? Or know of any at their club that might be avail for rent? 
Or a cradle I could rent?


Mark

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Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet

[Josh Muckley]

Alan,

This was my solution to the problem of having too much mainsheet rope and
not enough power.  Similar to your setup I can course adjust (3:1) with
jammer and winch.  Additionally a fine adjust (4:1 x 3:1 = 12:1) is
provided in the cockpit right at the traveller.  It would be easy enough to
add to your setup and you could reduce the power to 8:1 (2:1 x 4:1) or 6:1
(2:1 x 3:1).  Check out the pictures in the link.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yY3Qtbi1VSllwM3M&usp=sharing


Josh Muckley


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alan Bergen wrote:

> My boat came with a 6 part mainsheet arrangement, but I switched to a
> three part and self-tailing winch.  The problem with the former
> arrangement:  In light air, when rounding the windward mark, the main
> wouldn't go out without someone pushing the boom out.  When rounding the
> leeward mark, it took too long to trim in the main (the sheet was twice as
> long).  In heavy air, it was difficult for the crew to release the sheet
> from the cam cleat.  The present arrangement works better on Thirsty.
>
> Alan Bergen
> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
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Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: 6 part mainsheet

[Jake Brodersen]

Alan,

 

I had the same troubles.  I eliminated one block and now run a 4:1 to a cabin 
top winch.  I’d still be interested in trying a 6:1 like Joel.  I guess I’ll 
get some experience with his arrangement next Spring.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

   

cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: [SPAM]Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet

 

My boat came with a 6 part mainsheet arrangement, but I switched to a three 
part and self-tailing winch.  The problem with the former arrangement:  In 
light air, when rounding the windward mark, the main wouldn't go out without 
someone pushing the boom out.  When rounding the leeward mark, it took too long 
to trim in the main (the sheet was twice as long).  In heavy air, it was 
difficult for the crew to release the sheet from the cam cleat.  The present 
arrangement works better on Thirsty.

Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

 

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Re: Stus-List New Boat

[Andrew Burton]

Congrats on the impending purchase! As you say, it's hard to go wrong at that 
price...but not impossible!
Where in Maine and where are you, Mark? I would seriously consider sailing her 
home. That will give you a way better idea of what you need to do than the 
surveyor will. Speaking of which, I have a good friend who is an excellent 
surveyor in Newport. Let me know if you need to talk to him.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Sep 10, 2013, at 19:38, "Dr. Mark Bodnar"  wrote:

> 
> Ok.  So I'm throwing caution into the wind, at least a bit.
> 
> I have an accepted offer on the C&C29 Mk2 in Maine that I mentioned to the 
> list a while back.
> http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/4001084479.html
> For $8000.
> 
> Having looked a several boats locally (2 C&C29's I quite liked but neither 
> would settle for less than $20K, plus a few other boats), and given the 
> various options avail I decided that this was my best option.  I think I 
> would have liked to get the CS30, but doubtful they would have dropped the 
> price to where I would have wanted it.
> 
> Little risky making an offer on an unseen boat. I feel like I almost can't go 
> wrong for $8000.  Thank's to Bill for trying to get out to see it.  The 
> seller has been good about giving me info on the boat, and as best I can tell 
> (emails and a phone conversation) seems honest -- I may regret that 
> assumption, but the offer is contingent on a survey - so if there are any 
> major issues then I'll likely just walk away.  I likely wouldn't bother with 
> a survey if I was able to see it personally, but I think it's prudent in this 
> case, and will also give me a heads up on issues I need to address once I 
> have the boat in my possession.
> 
> Now the logistics.  Bill Burketts suggested a surveyor in the area (not sure 
> how close) - Gene Barnes.  Anyone have any other suggestions?
> 
> Plus the issue of getting the boat home.  I've posted a listing on uShip, but 
> we are thinking about just going and hauling it back. I have access to a 
> truck that can haul 10-11000lbs, and access to a trailer that can hold 
> 14000lbs (I need to confirm that these will work together!)
> The boat is currently on jack stands.  I'm thinking either I buy or borrow a 
> local cradle.
> Does anyone have measurements on the proper cradle base size and pad spacing 
> for a 29 II?
> There is a steel cradle for sale not far away
> http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-other-Steel-Sailboat-Cradle-for-Sale-W0QQAdIdZ509847290
> I'm trying to figure out if it will fit the boat properly - seems short to me.
> 
> For that matter - anyone near Halifax have a sailboat trailer that would fit 
> a C&C 29? Or know of any at their club that might be avail for rent? Or a 
> cradle I could rent?
> 
> Mark
> 
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> 
> -
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> B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
> Bedford Chiropractic
> www.bedfordchiro.ca
> -
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Re: Stus-List New Boat

[Robert Abbott]

Mark:

If you decide and/or need to insure your new boat, the insurance company 
will most likely insist on a recent survey (recent could mean in the 
last 5 years) for a 1984 model.  Might as well do it up front and know 
what you are buying!  It's simply boat bucks.



Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2013/09/10 8:38 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote:


Ok.  So I'm throwing caution into the wind, at least a bit.

I have an accepted offer on the C&C29 Mk2 in Maine that I mentioned to 
the list a while back.

http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/4001084479.html

for $8000.


Having looked a several boats locally (2 C&C29's I quite liked but 
neither would settle for less than $20K, plus a few other boats), and 
given the various options avail I decided that this was my best 
option.  I think I would have liked to get the CS30, but doubtful they 
would have dropped the price to where I would have wanted it.


Little risky making an offer on an unseen boat. I feel like I almost 
can't go wrong for $8000.  Thank's to Bill for trying to get out to 
see it.  The seller has been good about giving me info on the boat, 
and as best I can tell (emails and a phone conversation) seems honest 
-- I may regret that assumption, but the offer is contingent on a 
survey - so if there are any major issues then I'll likely just walk 
away.  I likely wouldn't bother with a survey if I was able to see it 
personally, but I think it's prudent in this case, and will also give 
me a heads up on issues I need to address once I have the boat in my 
possession.


Now the logistics.  Bill Burketts suggested a surveyor in the area 
(not sure how close) - Gene Barnes.  Anyone have any other suggestions?


Plus the issue of getting the boat home.  I've posted a listing on 
uShip, but we are thinking about just going and hauling it back. I 
have access to a truck that can haul 10-11000lbs, and access to a 
trailer that can hold 14000lbs (I need to confirm that these will work 
together!)
The boat is currently on jack stands.  I'm thinking either I buy or 
borrow a local cradle.
Does anyone have measurements on the proper cradle base size and pad 
spacing for a 29 II?

There is a steel cradle for sale not far away
http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-other-Steel-Sailboat-Cradle-for-Sale-W0QQAdIdZ509847290 

I'm trying to figure out if it will fit the boat properly - seems 
short to me.


For that matter - anyone near Halifax have a sailboat trailer that 
would fit a C&C 29? Or know of any at their club that might be avail 
for rent? Or a cradle I could rent?


Mark





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