On Impromptu, '77C&C 38MKIIC, Original Traveller on the bridge deck just outside of the companionway......no problems with dodger attachment: Added a separate boom bail just aft of the dodger edge.....slight aft pull on the traveller car but no ill effects after over 10 years....we don't use the dodger when racing so we switch to the bail above the car then.
All Garhauer parts, even replaced the original Schaefer traveller with Garhauer Traveller with holes matched by Guido so no additional drilling required. Had the Garhauer car made with the traveller controls mounted on the car with cam cleats........that works fine, but for racing, we now like the traveller controls led to the side and up to a cam cleat on each side. That keeps the main trimmer out of the cockpit and on the high side for traveller adjustment. For cruising, the traveller can be led to the side and back to the helm through another cam cleat for helm adjustment. That also works fine. 6:1 blocks were coupled with a 4:1 fine trimming set (see the Harken drawings in their catalogue for such a system). The end result is a great 24:1 main sheet system that provides all the effort you'll ever need. Pictures available on request..... Ron C. _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Clow Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:29 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location I have the same arrangement on my C&C 32 and highly recommend it. The biggest reason was so when short handed the driver can have access to the main sheet. The other big reason is the responsiveness, especially on jibes. Late last season we added a main sheet fine tuning block setup. The classic arrangement is to put it between the two big main sheet 6 to 1 blocks BUT this did not work because there was not enough vertical distance between them. So we were able to put the fine tuner horizontally on the boom. I will take a picture this evening and post to the web and send along a link. Michael Clow Desire <http://desiresailing.org/> , C&C 32, Lake St. Clair From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:56 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 6 part mainsheet and also traveller location I had a traveller forward of the companionway on my previous 34 and now my newer 34+. On the 34, I added a triple block with becket and cam (Lewmar) on the traveller so I had 6:1 up and down to the boom. It worked much more smoothly than going around all the corners of the stock arrangement. I run the mainsheet back to the helm and when shorthanded and can adjust the main easily without going forward to a winch unless it was blowing pretty hard. I also added a Garhauer vang and instead of the traveller, I used the vang (vang sheeting) so that the main sheet controlled the boom in and out and the vang up and down. Far easier when shorthanded than going up to the coachroof to make adjustments. Last week, I finally put together the same thing on my newer 34+. I used a Garhauer triple block (becket cam) which was about half the price of Harken or Lewmar and far beefier in construction. The main seems to be significantly larger than my 34 because it is significantly harder to adjust by hand when blowing, but I can run it to a winch on the coach roof when it blows and the downward angle bypasses the cam. So I would say that for any boat up to about 34', the 6:1 works great. I would think harder about it above 34. Dave On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> wrote: On my old C&C 24 I had the traveller aft of the companion way (almost a foot aft). It was great for handling the main (I also had a good Harken traveller car there), but it was a major pain for anyone going inside. My admiral hated it. To the point that the hard requirement for the new(er) boat was that it had the traveller on the cabin top. Now we have an easy access below, but the sail trimming is more complicated. Marek _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com David Knecht Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT
<<image001.jpg>>
_______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
