On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Tim Abbott <tabb...@mit.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Alex Ghitza wrote: > >> > However, they did say that given the circumstances, it might be possible >> > to push through a major update to the package to Karmic when once one is >> > available. >> > >> > So I think this leaves us at "we need to update the package". Sigh. >> >> Maybe we should just take whatever version of Sage is in Ubuntu right >> now and patch it so that running sage simply exits with something like >> >> ********************************************************************** >> THIS VERSION OF SAGE IS RIDICULOUSLY OUT-OF-DATE! >> >> Please download a binary for the latest version of Sage at >> >> http://www.sagemath.org >> >> or build it yourself from source. >> >> If you insist on running this version, type >> >> ./sage -yes_i_know_its_ridiculous_but_i_want_to_anyway >> ********************************************************************** >> >> What do you think? Too over-the-top? > > I'd be very surprised if the Ubuntu archive team would accept that sort of > stable release update. > > Think about it from their standpoint. They have thousands[1] of people > apparently using this package on Karmic, and so they're not going to be > enthused about intentionally breaking it for them all because the calculus > functionality doesn't work or upstream's newer version is much better. > (They would take e.g. a patch to fix the calculus functionality, though). > > I don't like the current situation any more than you do, but the Ubuntu > archive maintainers' policy isn't unreasonable, even if it is frustrating.
<not really serious!> Maybe I could threaten them with a trademark lawsuit? So at least they would have to call it some funny name (like Basil) instead of "Sage". Anyway, this situation is given me a newfound appreciation for why Firefox isn't called "Firefox" in some Linux distros... </not really serious!> > > [1] Where do I get the number thousands? The Ubuntu popularity contest > shows 1300 installations of sagemath on Ubuntu, and generally only a small > fraction of Ubuntu systems participate in popcon. > > -Tim Abbott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "debian-sage" group. > To post to this group, send email to debian-s...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > debian-sage+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/debian-sage?hl=en. > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org