On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Tim Abbott <tabb...@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Alex Ghitza wrote:
>
>> > However, they did say that given the circumstances, it might be possible
>> > to push through a major update to the package to Karmic when once one is
>> > available.
>> >
>> > So I think this leaves us at "we need to update the package".  Sigh.
>>
>> Maybe we should just take whatever version of Sage is in Ubuntu right
>> now and patch it so that running sage simply exits with something like
>>
>> **********************************************************************
>> THIS VERSION OF SAGE IS RIDICULOUSLY OUT-OF-DATE!
>>
>> Please download a binary for the latest version of Sage at
>>
>>        http://www.sagemath.org
>>
>> or build it yourself from source.
>>
>> If you insist on running this version, type
>>
>>        ./sage -yes_i_know_its_ridiculous_but_i_want_to_anyway
>> **********************************************************************
>>
>> What do you think?  Too over-the-top?
>
> I'd be very surprised if the Ubuntu archive team would accept that sort of
> stable release update.
>
> Think about it from their standpoint.  They have thousands[1] of people
> apparently using this package on Karmic, and so they're not going to be
> enthused about intentionally breaking it for them all because the calculus
> functionality doesn't work or upstream's newer version is much better.
> (They would take e.g. a patch to fix the calculus functionality, though).
>
> I don't like the current situation any more than you do, but the Ubuntu
> archive maintainers' policy isn't unreasonable, even if it is frustrating.

<not really serious!>
Maybe I could threaten them with a trademark lawsuit?  So at least
they would have to call it some funny name (like Basil) instead of
"Sage".     Anyway, this situation is given me a newfound appreciation
for why Firefox isn't called "Firefox" in some Linux distros...
</not really serious!>

>
> [1] Where do I get the number thousands?  The Ubuntu popularity contest
> shows 1300 installations of sagemath on Ubuntu, and generally only a small
> fraction of Ubuntu systems participate in popcon.
>
>        -Tim Abbott
>
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William Stein
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University of Washington
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