On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Alex Ghitza wrote:

> > However, they did say that given the circumstances, it might be possible 
> > to push through a major update to the package to Karmic when once one is 
> > available.
> > 
> > So I think this leaves us at "we need to update the package".  Sigh.
> 
> Maybe we should just take whatever version of Sage is in Ubuntu right
> now and patch it so that running sage simply exits with something like
> 
> **********************************************************************
> THIS VERSION OF SAGE IS RIDICULOUSLY OUT-OF-DATE!
> 
> Please download a binary for the latest version of Sage at
> 
>        http://www.sagemath.org
> 
> or build it yourself from source.
> 
> If you insist on running this version, type
> 
>        ./sage -yes_i_know_its_ridiculous_but_i_want_to_anyway
> **********************************************************************
> 
> What do you think?  Too over-the-top?

I'd be very surprised if the Ubuntu archive team would accept that sort of 
stable release update.

Think about it from their standpoint.  They have thousands[1] of people 
apparently using this package on Karmic, and so they're not going to be 
enthused about intentionally breaking it for them all because the calculus 
functionality doesn't work or upstream's newer version is much better.  
(They would take e.g. a patch to fix the calculus functionality, though).

I don't like the current situation any more than you do, but the Ubuntu 
archive maintainers' policy isn't unreasonable, even if it is frustrating.

[1] Where do I get the number thousands?  The Ubuntu popularity contest 
shows 1300 installations of sagemath on Ubuntu, and generally only a small 
fraction of Ubuntu systems participate in popcon.

        -Tim Abbott

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