I have asked David Roe to recuse himself from any further 
discussions/actions involving me in the CoCC.

The persistent refusal to make a distinction between *abusive conduct* and 
*calling out abuse* has caused too much damage already.

Matthias

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-7 David Roe wrote:

We have received messages from several people that the level of discord on 
display between Dima and Matthias makes them feel uncomfortable 
participating on this email list. To protect the community from this 
acrimony, we are for now restricting Dima and Matthias to moderated 
contributions on sage-devel.  We are sad in taking this step, and are 
continuing to work privately with both Dima and Matthias to resolve this 
conflict.
David
for the sage-conduct committee

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 7:30 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Reported.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 3:39:56 PM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 6:14 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 6:49:11 AM UTC-7 julian...@fsfe.org wrote:

We have carefully reviewed [...]

We therefore disagree with characterizing opposing opinions as “artificial 
friction”, “hostile demands”, or an “attempt to sabotage”.
Such allegations will have no effect other than to antagonize the other 
party. This is not helpful in fostering constructive debate.


Julian, please, that's highly inappropriate. I'm not characterizing 
opposing *opinions*.


Matthias, you keep characterizing my input into discussions as "persistent 
abusive conduct", see e.g. your
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36676#issuecomment-2048352139

I demand a public apology, and a lift of the block on GitHub.
Else Matthias should be banned from SageMath for a while, if not 
permanently. Enough is enough. 

Dima
   

With this terminology I'm describing the modes of existing, persistent, 
non-constructive *actions* on these PRs by others. 


These are not "allegations"; what I am describing has been happening in 
plain sight, is fully documented, and has been reported to the sage-abuse 
and CoCC committees. As you know, some of these have already led to 
sanctions by the committees, while I am still waiting for acknowledgment 
(and clear actions) regarding numerous reported violations of our code of 
conduct (and reviewing code) by the current committee.

I do understand that the new committee is still learning how to recognize 
and handle abuse; it's a complicated and challenging topic to master. In 
the meantime, as I have asked the committee in private already, more 
thoughtful restraint in issuing public reprimands is necessary.

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