As I remember the FXR inverters will rarely connect to any generators beside very well controlled or inverter type generators. I agree that I don't think there is any automatic transfer from grid tie to generator input.
Brad Bassett On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 3:42 PM Wayne Irwin via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > It is my understanding that the FXR will not "automatically" switch from > Grid Input to Gen. > To my knowledge this is a manual option only. > I do not recall any way to make this happen automatically. That would have > been great. > > You can however still call for the generator at a low V setting and have > the generator power an external charger to boost the batteries. > I think the brand we used to use was IOTA however, I have also seen golf > cart chargers used. > > > Wayne Irwin > President > License #CVC56695 > State Licensed Solar Contractor > Pure Energy Solar International Inc. > wa...@pureenergysolar.com > PureEnergySolar.com <http://pureenergysolar.com/> > SolarChargingStation.com <http://solarchargingstation.com/> > 352 377-6527 Office > 352 336-3299 Fax > > > The Sun Is Always Shining! > > The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. 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I presume you’ve checked hz and volts and they are in spec for grid? > I know sometimes the frequency control can be slightly variable without a > load. I’ve had success in the past getting inverters to connect to a > generator with putting some dumb loads on it. Like incandescent lights or > small heater. > > 2. Maybe it’s a good thing it won’t because if it did connect wouldn’t it > be possible for the inverter to try to sell to the generator? If you > didn’t have to change grid to Gen? > > Jay > > On Oct 23, 2024, at 8:47 PM, Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > > Wrenches, > We have a client that has brought utility power in and we now have the > system hooked up to the utility. > In setting the system up, I've experienced that the inverter will sell and > function fine with all the settings set up as* Grid Tied* mode, but it > does not play nice when the grid is gone , and the Generator is brought in > as the AC source. > We have installed an external transfer switch to switch the inverters' AC > input, from either the utility or the existing backup generator ( if the > grid fails), automatically. > > The manual states that the inverter's two input selections can be > programmed for seperate input modes, via the* Input* *Type* menu. Ive not > been able to get this accomplished. > > When simulating a grid outage, thus changing the AC input to the inverter > being from the Generator, the inverter will not synch to the AC power to > charge the batteries. > The only way that I can get the inverter to synch, is to switch the input > mode to *GEN* from *GRID.* > This is not ideal since the client would need to be present to make the > button push, even though the generator will be started automatically if the > grid were to go down (hopefully) , just as it did before. > > With no way to contact Outback , can someone advise how to properly > program the inverter/ MATE3S for this project? > Equipment onsite: > Single VFXR3648 inverter > Two FM60 CCs > Hub4 > MATE3S > ATS with Dual Relays 50A > L.A. Battery bank > > Here's how we would like it to work: > Utility power ON: > Sell excess power once the batteries have gone through the Absorb cycle. > Batteries remain full in case of a utility failure. > Utility Outage: > ATS now feeds Inv AC input via Generator if needed. > Inverter runs the home as it did , off grid. > If the battery voltage drops and the AGS is engaged, the inverter will use > that input to charge the batteries as usual. If the grid comes back on and > the gen is running, the generator can still run, with no connection to the > inverter. With the grid now charging the battery bank, and the AGS will > enventually shut off the Gen. 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