Hi Jeremy,

We have a client with 4 of the VFXR3648's in the same situation, GTBB and 
you've described our solution perfectly although we installed a manual transfer 
switch instead of the ATS, so if someone has figured out a better solution we'd 
like to know what it is, thanks.



Chris Worcester
chriswat...@outlook.com
530-448-9692
Sent from my Galaxy



-------- Original message --------
From: Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: 10/24/24 11:11 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: will...@millersolar.com, RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Cc: Jeremy Rodriguez <allsolarjer...@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] New Outback FXR Series as GTGBB on existing Off Grid 
Home

We Installed the automatic transfer switch so the inverter AC input could be 
either grid or generator.

Jeremy Rodriguez
Solar Installation / Design
All Solar, Inc.
1453 M St.
Penrose Colorado 81240

Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.

On Oct 24, 2024, at 10:41 AM, William Miller via RE-wrenches 
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:


Jeremy:

Question:  Did you install the ATS as a work-around to the problem described?

William Miller

Miller Solar
17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com<http://www.millersolar.com/>
CA Lic. 773985


From: RE-wrenches 
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 On Behalf Of Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:47 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Cc: Jeremy Rodriguez
Subject: [RE-wrenches] New Outback FXR Series as GTGBB on existing Off Grid Home

Wrenches,
We have a client that has brought utility power in and we now have the system 
hooked up to the utility.
In setting the system up, I've experienced that the inverter will sell and 
function fine with all the settings set up as Grid Tied mode, but it does not 
play nice when the grid is gone , and the Generator is brought in as the AC 
source.
We have installed an external transfer switch to switch the inverters' AC 
input, from either the utility or the existing backup generator ( if the grid 
fails), automatically.

The manual states that the inverter's two input selections can be programmed 
for seperate input modes, via the Input Type menu. Ive not been able to get 
this accomplished.

When simulating a grid outage, thus changing the AC input to the inverter being 
from the Generator, the inverter will not synch to the AC power to charge the 
batteries.
The only way that I can get the inverter to synch, is to switch the input mode 
to GEN from GRID.
This is not ideal since the client would need to be present to make the button 
push, even though the generator will be started automatically if the grid were 
to go down (hopefully) , just as it did before.

With no way to contact Outback , can someone advise how to properly program the 
inverter/ MATE3S for this project?
Equipment onsite:
Single VFXR3648 inverter
Two FM60 CCs
Hub4
MATE3S
ATS with Dual Relays 50A
L.A. Battery bank

Here's how we would like it to work:
Utility power ON:
Sell excess power once the batteries have gone through the Absorb cycle. 
Batteries remain full in case of a utility failure.
Utility Outage:
ATS now feeds Inv AC input via Generator if needed.
Inverter runs the home as it did , off grid.
If the battery voltage drops and the AGS is engaged, the inverter will use that 
input to charge the batteries as usual.  If the grid comes back on and the gen 
is running, the generator can still run, with no connection to the inverter.  
With the grid now charging the battery bank, and the AGS will enventually shut 
off the Gen. Based on voltage.
Contact me off list if necessary


Jeremy Rodriguez
All Solar Inc.
Penrose, CO
719-276-4954



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