I wasn't endorsing those bikes or comparing them to the overall ride and functionality of Rivendells. I only ride steel bikes that have decent clearance. I was simply pointing out that aspects of the Rivendell geometry have been adopted by mainstream manufacturers of CF bikes.
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:23:40 PM UTC-8, ted wrote: > > Yes, however do the mass produced CF bikes you'r referencing take what > RBW calls wide tires? How about fenders. > My quick look for Specialized Roubaix specs didn't turn up a max tire > size but it looked like they are sold with 25s. > The tightest riv (the Rodeao) takes 33s with full fenders, the others > allow significantly larger tires than that. > > On Jan 9, 11:11 am, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was actually referring to things like the Spec. Roubaix/Secteur, > Cervelo > > RS, Trek Domane, Felt Z series, etc. --mass produced MCRB's that feature > > taller heatubes, slacker head angles, longer chainstays, etc. I should > > think that with a custom builder like Parlee or Calfee you could get as > > close to Rivendell geo's, fit, and clearance/functionality as is > possible > > but with carbon instead of steel. Jan definitely liked that Calfee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 7:39:47 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:47:13 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: > > > > >> Although we don't like to talk about it here in our little world of > lugs > > >> and quill stems, many mainstream CF bike manufacturers have started > to > > >> realize the advantages of something closer to the Riv geometry. Many > of > > >> them have "endurance" road models right up through the fanciest > carbon > > >> fiber and component spec that feature taller headtubes and slacker > angles > > >> than the full-on race-spec team machines. > > > > > Yup, there are two CF mfrs that have these exact specs - About 5 years > or > > > so ago, Hampsten came out with its CF tournesol built by Don Parlee. > It > > > was designed for fenders and I believe could fit 700x30 or 32 mm > tires. It > > > wasn't a big seller (sold about 50 or so CF bikes) and discontinued to > > > focus on steel and ti. > > > > > More recently, Calfee now offers its Adventure geometry optino that > was > > > designed for 700x32 tires AND fenders. It was reviewed, and liked, by > Jan > > > H.: > > > > >http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/BQCalfeeTest.pdf > > > > >> Of course, there's still the matter of fit--these bikes are often fit > a > > >> couple of sizes smaller than the Rivendell fitting philosophy, and > riding a > > >> smaller bike is liable to feel squirrely and unstable when compared > to a > > >> Riv with Riv geometry and Riv sizing. > > > > > Yup, what makes Rivendell's different is its unique geometry and fit. > If > > > you want Grant's philosophy, then that is what you should get! Good > Luck! > > > > >> On Monday, January 7, 2013 8:32:59 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > > > >>> a more stable, more predictable handling, safer feeling, with less > road > > >>> vibration, bike than a modern geometry race bike? > > > > >>> Because this is what I experience on the Bleriot vs. my race type > bike. > > >>> Not sure if the frame or 40mm tires at low pressures contributes > more to > > >>> this. > > > > >>> But was wondering if this was the intended effect of the designers > at > > >>> Rivbike. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YgOoobwQX94J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
