Yes, however do the mass produced CF bikes you'r referencing take what
RBW calls wide tires? How about fenders.
My quick look for Specialized Roubaix specs didn't turn up a max tire
size but it looked like they are sold with 25s.
The tightest riv (the Rodeao) takes 33s with full fenders, the others
allow significantly larger tires than that.

On Jan 9, 11:11 am, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was actually referring to things like the Spec. Roubaix/Secteur, Cervelo
> RS, Trek Domane, Felt Z series, etc. --mass produced MCRB's that feature
> taller heatubes, slacker head angles, longer chainstays, etc.  I should
> think that with a custom builder like Parlee or Calfee you could get as
> close to Rivendell geo's, fit, and clearance/functionality as is possible
> but with carbon instead of steel.  Jan definitely liked that Calfee.
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> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 7:39:47 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:47:13 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> >> Although we don't like to talk about it here in our little world of lugs
> >> and quill stems, many mainstream CF bike manufacturers have started to
> >> realize the advantages of something closer to the Riv geometry. Many of
> >> them have "endurance" road models right up through the fanciest carbon
> >> fiber and component spec that feature taller headtubes and slacker angles
> >> than the full-on race-spec team machines.
>
> > Yup, there are two CF mfrs that have these exact specs - About 5 years or
> > so  ago, Hampsten came out with its CF tournesol built by Don Parlee. It
> > was designed for fenders and I believe could fit 700x30 or 32 mm tires. It
> > wasn't a big seller (sold about 50 or so CF bikes) and discontinued to
> > focus on steel and ti.
>
> > More recently, Calfee now offers its Adventure geometry optino that was
> > designed for 700x32 tires AND fenders. It was reviewed, and liked, by Jan
> > H.:
>
> >http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/BQCalfeeTest.pdf
>
> >> Of course, there's still the matter of fit--these bikes are often fit a
> >> couple of sizes smaller than the Rivendell fitting philosophy, and riding a
> >> smaller bike is liable to feel squirrely and unstable when compared to a
> >> Riv with Riv geometry and Riv sizing.
>
> > Yup, what makes Rivendell's different is its unique geometry and fit.  If
> > you want Grant's philosophy, then that is what you should get! Good Luck!
>
> >> On Monday, January 7, 2013 8:32:59 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> >>> a more stable, more predictable handling, safer feeling, with less road
> >>> vibration, bike than a modern geometry race bike?
>
> >>> Because this is what I experience on the Bleriot vs. my race type bike.
> >>> Not sure if the frame or 40mm tires at low pressures contributes more to
> >>> this.
>
> >>> But was wondering if this was the intended effect of the designers at
> >>> Rivbike.

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