Although we don't like to talk about it here in our little world of lugs 
and quill stems, many mainstream CF bike manufacturers have started to 
realize the advantages of something closer to the Riv geometry. Many of 
them have "endurance" road models right up through the fanciest carbon 
fiber and component spec that feature taller headtubes and slacker angles 
than the full-on race-spec team machines.  Of course, there's still the 
matter of fit--these bikes are often fit a couple of sizes smaller than the 
Rivendell fitting philosophy, and riding a smaller bike is liable to feel 
squirrely and unstable when compared to a Riv with Riv geometry and Riv 
sizing.  


On Monday, January 7, 2013 8:32:59 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> a more stable, more predictable handling, safer feeling, with less road 
> vibration, bike than a modern geometry race bike?
>  
> Because this is what I experience on the Bleriot vs. my race type bike.
> Not sure if the frame or 40mm tires at low pressures contributes more to 
> this.
>  
> But was wondering if this was the intended effect of the designers at 
> Rivbike.
>  
>  
>

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