> If someone were to make a modern race bike with steel tubing, the
> experience would not be much different than riding a carbon fiber
> offering.

I have an old race bike (Gios Torrino) that is built with steel tubing
(old standard diameter main tubes). It is very quick and responsive. A
lot of folks would call it harsh and twitchy, though when I was racing
crits with it I thought it was great (right tool for  the task).

I don't believe the material you build a bike out of drives the kind
of ride and handling you get. It does affect how you spec the tubes
etc. to get the result you want.

On Jan 8, 6:54 am, Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Race geometry has a lot to do with the 'nervous' handling of a race bike.
>
> If someone were to make a modern race bike with steel tubing, the
> experience would not be much different than riding a carbon fiber
> offering.
>
> On the other hand, a CF bike with Riv geometry would have similar ride
> characteristics to the Riv.  Arguably a CF Riv would damp vibrations less.
> But this could be managed with thicker CF tubing.  Of course then the bike
> would weigh in close to a steel Riv, obviating the primary reason for going
> CF.
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> On Monday, January 7, 2013 11:57:05 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
> > I really enjoy the stability alot. I feel much safer on it than on the
> > race bike.
> > I wonder if this is the way steel bikes feel in general, or is this the
> > signature Rivendell "ride".

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