if they are breaking the rules then aren't they disqualified? Or listed as DNF? Or are they cheating in a way that isn't seen an only a few or is it an allegation that all top finishers are cheaters?
Just curious I have no idea... just doesn't sound right. Kelly On Monday, August 6, 2012 2:14:48 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: > > Sorry about multiple posts above. IPad Google Groups compatability issues. > > >I still think it's a race for those who finish with the best times. > Don't you? > > I think if they thought of it as a race they would follow the rules. > > > On Monday, August 6, 2012 1:50:01 PM UTC-5, Jim Cloud wrote: > >> I would hardly expect Richard Sachs to completely abandon his method >> of frame construction at this point in his career and begin making >> carbon fiber frames. The current demand for his bikes far exceeds his >> capacity (he has a seven-year backlog) and he no longer builds any >> frames except for previous customers of his frames. His bikes are >> still, in addition, quite competitive in cyclocross. >> >> He also builds bikes that are "Thoroughly Modern Millies" in terms of >> their equipment specifications, he isn't scouring the shelves looking >> for classic NOS Campy components from the NR/SR era. He has stated >> that every bike he produces in 2012 is a product of modern techniques >> and equipment, he does not build the bikes with the same exact methods >> and materials that he used 30 years ago. >> >> > He also seems to be unaware that PBP is not a race. >> >> I would also imagine that Sachs is aware that the P-B-P isn't a race >> for many who ride in the event. I still think it's a race for those >> who finish with the best times. Don't you? >> >> Jim Cloud >> Tucson, AZ >> >> >> On Aug 6, 11:09 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: >> > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 11:00 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: >> > > Richard Sachs once characterized the modern >> > > infatuation with the French Constructeur era bike, as the end-point >> of >> > > touring bike design, as being in the vein of Civil War enactors. >> > >> > Yes, that's very amusing, but one should also notice that as one of the >> > best known builders of steel racing bikes, which have not been seen in >> > the pro peloton for many years now, and which will certainly never be >> > seen there again, he himself could be described as engaging in or >> > fostering Civil War Re-enactment. >> > >> > > He also made the point that most of the riders in the top finishing >> > > group of classic brevets, such as the P-B-P are not riding bikes that >> > > evoke the Rene Herse or Alex Singer randonneur bikes of the past - >> > > they're riding modern carbon fiber frame bikes. >> > >> > He also seems to be unaware that PBP is not a race. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5h4Oq12ZAiAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
