> Ancien/anciennes can correct me here, but i'm pretty sure bag drops are 
commonly used at PBP and there is no penalty for this, nor is 
> it considered cheating.  In my experience, "unsupported" isn't a very 
precise word in randonneuring.  
 
Well, would not be the first time I misunderstood something I read 
somewhere.
 
Of course whether the bike is Steel, Ti or Plastic, a rider should be able 
to go faster without a load than with.  
 
If the rider intends to ride 1200 km without any outside supply, 
the traditional Rando set up is as good a way to do this as any.  By that I 
mean a relatively light frame and fork with a modest sized bag up front for 
easy access.  You could carry battery lights, but dynamo mean less chance 
of losing light, so why not?  And, if the ride is in a place where rain is 
likely- such as the Pacific Northwest or the Northwest Coast of France, 
fenders make a lot of sense.  


On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:23:16 AM UTC-5, Patrick in VT wrote:

> On Monday, August 6, 2012 4:42:16 PM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote: 
>>
>>  
>> My reference was intended to be PBP exclusively - I see the way I wrote 
>> that is not clear.  As I understand the PBP rules, bag drops are not 
>> allowed.
>>
>
> Ancien/anciennes can correct me here, but i'm pretty sure bag drops are 
> commonly used at PBP and there is no penalty for this, nor is it considered 
> cheating.  In my experience, "unsupported" isn't a very precise word in 
> randonneuring.  
>
> Regarding whether it's "racing" or not, that's entirely up to any given 
> rider.  everybody has a goal - whether it's to finish fast, set a personal 
> best or just finish.  real amateur "races" work the same way - often, the 
> winner gets absolutely nothing but a bit of local glory.  participation in 
> a 5/10k foot race, or a marathon (also a "race"), or Cat4 masters 
> cyclocross race, or local sprint triathlon, etc. is not contingent on 
> people who think they are actually going to "win" - folks do it because 
> they like it.  or want to try something new.   the results might read 
> differently, but rando and "racing" aren't that different.  its just people 
> out for the experience/personal challenge, reaching for their goals and 
> enjoying an active life.  
>
>

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