Wasn't freedom from flats exactly what the OP was looking for?

"I know some people are willing to accept the occasional flat if the
 tires offers exceptional comfort or speed or whatever. That's fine
for
 them, I just want to get to work and home again without getting my
 hand dirty."

FWIW, I have no problems mounting the Rando Pros, and have never pinch
flatted one.  I don't expect a flat resistant, 460 gm tire to ride
like an Open CX, but I think the Rando Pros ride just fine for a
sturdy touring or commuting tire a la Marathon.

The Rando Hypers are lighter, faster, and still seem relatively flat
resistant.  They might be a better comparison to a JB.

Bill

On Jan 31, 7:19 am, Ryan Ray <ryanr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vittoria  Randoneur Pro. The only tire I disliked riding on more than
> Marathons.
>
> Nearly impossible to puncture, nearly as impossible to mount. Iv'e talked
> to others who agree the only flat you'll get with a Vittoria Randoneur are
> pinch flats trying to get the damn things on or off.

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