http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen
On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:37 AM, robert zeidler wrote: > Glycogen is not a body thing. Glycogen won't move from your arms to > your legs. Once your legs are depleted, that's it. As I understand > it (I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on TV, but I did stay at a > Holiday Inn Express last night), fat as a fuel needs something to burn > it, and that is some form of carbohydrate, and it's usually one of the > really bad ones. If it was just fat, you could head out w/ just a > gallon or so of water and come back 10lbs of body fat lighter. The > discipline is to only use these bad carbs while exercising. You can > get this from many forms, but I just prefer the Gu/Clif etc., type > because when I start to get a little low in the "gas tank", a gel > followed by some water goes right where it should, quickly digested. > Same thing could be accomplished w/ Cytomax or some such. Plus time > can be a limiting factor so why would I want to stop to ingest? Add > to that the extra time for digestion and you're carrying a lot more > than you need to and waiting a lot more for it to kick in. It's not a > race thing, haven't done that in almost 20 years-too much work for too > little reward. The thing it is about, though, is not getting out there > and meeting the man with the hammer. That can be bad. Who hasn't > finished a century, limping along in 1st gear, doing all you can just > to turn over the pedals? No thanks. > Recovery is what ever works best for you, worked out by trial and error. > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:25 PM, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> All of this depends on what your goals are and how you >> "train"......I'm interested in losing body fat and could care less if >> I win the local triathlon or whatever. There is no reason in my mind >> to load up, eat while riding or recover utilizing starchy carbs. You >> can get the same thing from vegetables and or some fruits without the >> insulin spike problems etc. For recovery.... protein and fat sure >> makes some sense especially in light of recent training advice to >> drink sugar laden chocolate milk (protein and fat) I'll take a chunk >> of chicken,salmon or a steak coupled with a boat load of fresh salad >> and other assorted greens with olive oil and whatever else my wife >> uses in her her low carb dressing. Doesn't the body normally only >> store about two hours worth of glucose anyway. I mean at some point >> you would have to burn fat on a long ride anyway....why not train >> yourself to do that instead of topping off with simple carbohydrate. >> Just saying...........on the other hand, if you are a competitive >> athlete and you want to log 100 mile days you are probably not >> interested in the health aspect but would instead want to improve >> performance and recovery at whatever cost to health. I think however >> that there are trainers (and authors with books) out there who >> specialize in 'paleo' diets for athletes. Can't remember the title of >> the one I'm thinking of but you can probably Google it. >> >> On Aug 17, 7:15 am, Khalid Mateen <krm2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I think you are right. If you are doing long distances, your body wants >>> calories and it will look towards anything for those calories, even starchy >>> carbohydrates. I think starchy carbohydrates are appropiate in this >>> instance because your body insulin may go up, but the sugar in the blood is >>> being pushed into the muscle where it is needed most and not stored as body >>> fat. Although I have not read his book, Lorain Cordain suggest high >>> carbohydrates after a workout or after you used alot of energy and need fuel >>> for a workout or activity. I do think if you are going to eat >>> carbohydrates, make sure it is the good stuff if you can get them like rice, >>> pasta,yam and bread. These can be use to help recover from extreme long >>> bike rides and not feel drain the next day. Even good sources of fat since >>> fat has about calories in it and fat can be used to convert to sugar in the >>> body. >>> >>> K. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Faller <dfal...@charter.net> wrote: >>>> During an energy-hogging ride it doesn't seem to matter how you eat. Your >>>> body is desperately looking for available calories, probably at a rate >>>> faster than you can digest them and make them available. 200 cal. per hour >>>> is probably all one should eat while riding to maintain the energy flow. A >>>> friend of mine does many centuries and double centuries per year. He is 53 >>>> years old, gaunt, and subsists on alarming quantities of raw vegetables >>>> while riding. He has the energy of a 25 year old. But when he takes a >>>> break on the side of the road, his number one craving is those hot Fritos. >>>> He shamelessly snarfs down those and all sorts of other nasty things like >>>> Cup O' Noodles and cookies, etc. Not very Paleo, but he's working so hard >>>> that he's burning those calories while idling. Post ride, he gets back to >>>> the proteins, with some carbs, and is quite satisfied; I don't think he >>>> ends >>>> the ride with a 4,000 calorie refuel. I can't say it sounds as fun or >>>> rewarding as a spaghetti feed or a BBQ with all the goodies, but he seems >>>> to >>>> do this effortlessly. >>> >>>> Personally, I'm all for pizza and beer after the ride... >>> >>>> On 8/14/2011 5:30 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: >>> >>>>> Sorry to resuscitate a dying thread, but here goes: >>> >>>>> I like the way the Taubes/Paleo makes me feel - -won't rehash. >>>>> Problem I have is long rides - - 4 to 12 hours. I have not figured >>>>> out the "Taubesian" foods work to keep you going during the ride, or >>>>> how to handle that feeling of post-ride starvation. >>> >>>>> What do you eat during the ride, and how do you handle the post-ride >>>>> meal? >>> >>>>> I don't think I should be putting Candy Bars in my Candy Bar Bag, but >>>>> hard boiled eggs and raw broccoli aren't getting me through the long >>>>> days. >>> >>>>> Any suggestions? >>> >>>>> Thanks. I know this post is not really Rivendell related, and the >>>>> "Candy Bar Bag" humor is weak. >>> >>>>> RL >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>>> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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