I ought to add this: it's not merely the bigger numbers that are
pleasing as the distinct feel in acceleration and climbing and, too,
of the way you can swing it about, of a light bike; I speak with
authority for my bikes -- all much loved -- range in weight from this
just-sub 18 lbs to 33 lbs for the Fargo.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The other Riv has even lighter wheels but the rider position is the
> same. I tell you, I do notice a difference in climbing. (I was
> carrying a full, stainless steel, double wall thermos.)
>
> It is the '99 650C gofast custom that I've posted about recently.
> Wonderful what you can do with a single, fixed gear!
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 5 lbs means very little from my experience.   So the one built as a commuter 
>> .. Same tires wheels geometry bars handlebar height?
>>
>> Add 5 lbs in water bottle on go fast and doubt you'll notice much.
>>
>> But if all you're interested in is speed have fun.   A 2 to 3 mph average 
>> speed difference for me is nothing.
>>
>> So what Rivendell did you build to 17ish pounds?
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:41 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just got back from a nice if brief-ish 1 hour ride on the '99 Riv
>>> gofast, newly equipped with pretty Phil front hub (I have decided not
>>> to replace the computer -- just yet, anyway, but I guesstimate that I
>>> covered, easily, 23 miles over rolling, mostly suburban terrain).
>>> Anyway, I deliberately went out of my way to climb some steepish, 1/2
>>> mile long hills, mostly standing in the 75" gear, and blow me down, if
>>> I sped up those hills like ... like .... like ... Oh! Like Bartali,
>>> shifting into a *higher* gear at the bottom of a steep climb, turning
>>> with a sneer and glare at his competition, and leaving them in his
>>> dust. Sortof.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the difference between this gofast that, now, without a
>>> computer, weighs a featherlite 17 3/4 lb, and the almost identical but
>>> built as a commuter '03, is about 5 lb, and I certainly can tell the
>>> difference on the hills.
>>>
>>> Just so you know.
>>>
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