Yea really............the one pound frame weight diff can't make one bike a "thudder" (whatever that means) its got to be the combination of elements that influence ride qualities. As far as performance goes you'd have to measure it over a long period and have direct comparisons which is really hard to do. Headwinds, my energy, hydration etc. there are so many variables that it just seems too difficult to make comparisons. I have several bikes that range in weight and components and even type and there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why one days "fast ride" happens on the heavy bike and the next ride on the race bike is actually slower. Actually I don't even care........ I just want a derailleurless frame that will take some use buy a middle aged, overweight guy who wants to ride to work in the spring and summer and not have it prematurely crack somewhere. A little thicker tubing makes me feel better about my purchase in the long run.......perhaps its a non issue in the real world as it appears some of you are riding your QB's loaded with groceries or hopping ruts and rocks on trails. That's certainly not something I would be doing but rather up to 96 miles of smooth pavement during the week...... and the primal diet.
On Nov 20, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" direction. > These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least > heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that, but at > the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight. I used > think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't > work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV. > > I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame > differences between "heavy" tubing and "light" tubing might mean a pound on > a ~60 cm frame. > > Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in the full > build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue. > > It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended towards > stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through, we're > presented with a range of models, which you could think of as "limber" to > "stout"... > > Roadeo/San Marcos - > Hilsen - > Hillborne -> Atlantis -> Hunquapillar - > > Bombadil > > My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they are both > right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I like to > do. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Three T-shirts Now Available: > "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." S/S T-shirt > Cyclocross - "More Cowbell" L/S T-shirt > "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirthttp://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
