As we all know , everthing is relative. As another Sam H owner ( 56cm ) I would not describe the handling as lively myself, more like a big stable sedan. Easy to steer, rock solid, but fun to ride. I'm running the 38mm Marathon Racers, which add to the stable feeling, but they seem to roll very fast for a tire of that width.
I prefer a 58cm bike too.. but on this bike I'm running my B17 way back on a VO seatpost with 30mm of setback and a Pearl 9 ( really 97mm) stem about a cm below seat height and it just feels perfect. ~Mike~ On Jun 28, 10:28 am, EcoVelo <ecoveloi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > I have a house full of cargo bikes including a Civia Loring, Yuba > Mundo, and Surly Long Haul Trucker; the Hillborne is much livelier > than any of those tanks.. ;-) > > Seriously, when I say "lively" I'm thinking more in terms of frame > compliance than weight. The LHT is a good bike to use for comparison > because it's very popular and similar in configuration to the > Hillborne; the Surly is much stiffer and, to me, has a "dead" feeling > in comparison. In this sense, the Hillborne is indeed lively (at least > in the 60cm size). > > I'm surprised at your comment regarding the steering - I find it > perfectly spot on. Were you, by chance, running a heavy load in the > rear? > > Enjoy your new bike - I hope it ends up working out for you. > > Regards, > Alan > > On Jun 28, 9:41 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Interesting writeup, Alan, particulary about how you find the bike lively. I > > think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and > > "light" feeling of the front end, a sort of sluggishness when accelerating > > compared to my other bikes, even the heavy and relatively cheaply built > > Motobecane Grand Record. When I stand on the pedals on the SH, it feels > > reluctant to "surge". > > > Now the SH is pretty heavy with rack and fenders in rear and dynohub in > > front, but it's not heavier than the Motobecane, I don't think. > > > Now, to place my criticisms in perspective, I don't find the SH handles > > annoyingly badly; it just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my > > possession after filtering dozens through my garage over the last 20 years. > > Perhaps riding position has a lot to do with it, since I also take a 58 > > usually, but chose a 56 with saddle pretty far back and Noodles on a 9 cm > > Technomic just a wee bit higher than plane of top of saddle (rump to nose). > > > Anyway, it will be fine for the sort of touring I plan to do, firmish dirt > > with pavement. And I'll spend this week riding it to make sure I explore its > > possibilities fully -- I've put only 180 miles or so on it since buying it > > in March. > > > PAM > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, EcoVelo <ecoveloi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne > > > here: > > > >http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-... > > > > Enjoy, > > > a...@ecovelo > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib > > > e...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
