Hi Patrick,

I have a house full of cargo bikes including a Civia Loring, Yuba
Mundo, and Surly Long Haul Trucker; the Hillborne is much livelier
than any of those tanks.. ;-)

Seriously, when I say "lively" I'm thinking more in terms of frame
compliance than weight. The LHT is a good bike to use for comparison
because it's very popular and similar in configuration to the
Hillborne; the Surly is much stiffer and, to me, has a "dead" feeling
in comparison. In this sense, the Hillborne is indeed lively (at least
in the 60cm size).

I'm surprised at your comment regarding the steering - I find it
perfectly spot on. Were you, by chance, running a heavy load in the
rear?

Enjoy your new bike - I hope it ends up working out for you.

Regards,
Alan

On Jun 28, 9:41 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting writeup, Alan, particulary about how you find the bike lively. I
> think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and
> "light" feeling of the front end, a sort of sluggishness when accelerating
> compared to my other bikes, even the heavy and relatively cheaply built
> Motobecane Grand Record. When I stand on the pedals on the SH, it feels
> reluctant to "surge".
>
> Now the SH is pretty heavy with rack and fenders in rear and dynohub in
> front, but it's not heavier than the Motobecane, I don't think.
>
> Now, to place my criticisms in perspective, I don't find the SH handles
> annoyingly badly; it just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my
> possession after filtering dozens through my garage over the last 20 years.
> Perhaps riding position has a lot to do with it, since I also take a 58
> usually, but chose a 56 with saddle pretty far back and Noodles on a 9 cm
> Technomic just a wee bit higher than plane of top of saddle (rump to nose).
>
> Anyway, it will be fine for the sort of touring I plan to do, firmish dirt
> with pavement. And I'll spend this week riding it to make sure I explore its
> possibilities fully -- I've put only 180 miles or so on it since buying it
> in March.
>
> PAM
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, EcoVelo <ecoveloi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne
> > here:
>
> >http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-...
>
> > Enjoy,
> > a...@ecovelo
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