So does the Hunqapillar qualify as a Monstercross bike?  I wasn't
familiar with the term until recently.  Why does everybody try to
categorize everything?

On Apr 8, 7:22 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > I'm wondering out loud ... if extra diagonal type tubed frames were so
> > popular ..... why are they not sold in mass?
> > I see a warmish response here in this forum .... but you know how some
> > things go ..... people say they love the design ..... but when it
> > comes time to actually
> > buy and own one ..... "personal reality" checks in. . .  . and they
> > may not want it.  It's like seeing a fancy prototype at the bike
> > show .... it looks great .... you drool over it ...
> > but you just don't get one ..... for whatever reason..... usually it's
> > too far "out of the norm". What would so and so think? ... etc.
>
> I missed this from Garth earlier.  Couldn't one say the same about any
> Riv design, or, for that matter, lugged steel bike? If lugged steel
> bikes are sold in mass, I have yet to see them.
>
> Bikes with extra tubes are more expensive to make, and thus buy.  They
> are also heavier than most bikes. Many people never ride with loads
> and to places such a bike would be needed.  For those few who do,
> having some attractive priced options from Riv make sense.
>
> On Apr 7, 6:40 pm, James Dinneen <jfxdinn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Good point about the water bottles. In particular, a touring bike should 
> > have multiple, easily available water bottles.      Jim D.                  
> >  Massachusetts
>
> > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Garth <garth...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar
> > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:05 AM
>
> > If they're going diagonal ..... what do they do about water bottles ?
> > Design is one thing, but what about practicality?
>
> > While I agree with GP that triangles look better, and bicycles are all
> > about triangles ...... more of them doesn't necessarily mean better.
> > Double top tubes parallel
> > looks masculine...... works great for carrying and stand
> > mounting....... a diagonal or mixte tube doesn't.
>
> > I'm wondering out loud ... if extra diagonal type tubed frames were so
> > popular ..... why are they not sold in mass?
> > I see a warmish response here in this forum .... but you know how some
> > things go ..... people say they love the design ..... but when it
> > comes time to actually
> > buy and own one ..... "personal reality" checks in. . .  . and they
> > may not want it.  It's like seeing a fancy prototype at the bike
> > show .... it looks great .... you drool over it ...
> > but you just don't get one ..... for whatever reason..... usually it's
> > too far "out of the norm". What would so and so think? ... etc.
>
> > The mind is an never ending ride to nowhere.
>
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