> I'm wondering out loud ... if extra diagonal type tubed frames were so
> popular ..... why are they not sold in mass?
> I see a warmish response here in this forum .... but you know how some
> things go ..... people say they love the design ..... but when it
> comes time to actually
> buy and own one ..... "personal reality" checks in. . .  . and they
> may not want it.  It's like seeing a fancy prototype at the bike
> show .... it looks great .... you drool over it ...
> but you just don't get one ..... for whatever reason..... usually it's
> too far "out of the norm". What would so and so think? ... etc.

I missed this from Garth earlier.  Couldn't one say the same about any
Riv design, or, for that matter, lugged steel bike? If lugged steel
bikes are sold in mass, I have yet to see them.

Bikes with extra tubes are more expensive to make, and thus buy.  They
are also heavier than most bikes. Many people never ride with loads
and to places such a bike would be needed.  For those few who do,
having some attractive priced options from Riv make sense.

On Apr 7, 6:40 pm, James Dinneen <jfxdinn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good point about the water bottles. In particular, a touring bike should have 
> multiple, easily available water bottles.      Jim D.                   
> Massachusetts
>
> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Garth <garth...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:05 AM
>
> If they're going diagonal ..... what do they do about water bottles ?
> Design is one thing, but what about practicality?
>
> While I agree with GP that triangles look better, and bicycles are all
> about triangles ...... more of them doesn't necessarily mean better.
> Double top tubes parallel
> looks masculine...... works great for carrying and stand
> mounting....... a diagonal or mixte tube doesn't.
>
> I'm wondering out loud ... if extra diagonal type tubed frames were so
> popular ..... why are they not sold in mass?
> I see a warmish response here in this forum .... but you know how some
> things go ..... people say they love the design ..... but when it
> comes time to actually
> buy and own one ..... "personal reality" checks in. . .  . and they
> may not want it.  It's like seeing a fancy prototype at the bike
> show .... it looks great .... you drool over it ...
> but you just don't get one ..... for whatever reason..... usually it's
> too far "out of the norm". What would so and so think? ... etc.
>
> The mind is an never ending ride to nowhere.
>
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