I'm owning up.  It's me that has the refund.  Mainly due to the
thought that this is not the bike I pre-ordered.  It may be good, but
not what I was lead to expect from the inital .pdf.  The new bike is
also too jarring to me visually.

Sorry to the list if I've made too much and lead to discord.  Not my
wish.  Do not want to alienate others because of my own stupid ideas.

Am not mad at Rivendell at all.  The blame (if there is any) lies
squarely with me in this case.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN



On Apr 5, 6:00�pm, Esteban <kemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If I had a deposit, I'd keep it in there until one of these comes off
> the boat. �I'll bet they'll look pretty awesome. �Having ridden the
> prototypes, I'll say that they are SOLID. �This diagonal-fest will
> only make them more solid. �And more awesome.
>
> And these were never svelte bikes. �They are intended to be tanks,
> plowers, mowers...anything that adds strength (and innovation to boot)
> for this utility machine is welcomed... especially from Keven and
> Grant who do a lot of tinkering and riding and experimenting.
>
> Patience is a virtue. �I'm liking this bike more and more.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Apr 5, 3:48�pm, Beth <betha.lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Man...it sure must be nice to have a PBH above 75. All the choices you
> > 75+ PBHers have in bike frames makes me delirious and jealous and
> > still not tall.
>
> > Meanwhile, on back on the little ol' Betty (which....funny isn't
> > it..the Hunq is beginning to ever-so-slightly
> > resemble...muhuhuwahahaha.....)
>
> > On Apr 5, 9:01�am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > No choice Grant and Keven make is going to make everybody happy.
>
> > > On Apr 5, 8:27�am, Dan Abelson <d...@abelsons.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > Having looked at the first mockup, I'm not convinced. �Jars my view
> > > > > too much. �Also makes it look like it's a "fatty" bike. �Fine. �I'm
> > > > > fat. �That's been established. �Don't like the idea that I'm stuck
> > > > > riding a "special" bike.
>
> > > > > With full-length twin laterals, ala the Singer camping, or the
> > > > > original Breezer, that might work. �That's a copy of the Schwinn
> > > > > Excelsior frame.
>
> > > > > Also, on a slightly different note. �With the center tube, would make
> > > > > it difficult to sqeeze both a larger bottle and frame pump in without
> > > > > interference. �At least on a 58. �And forget using a pump with a mount
> > > > > like the Topeak Morph series.
>
> > > > > Finally, it looks like a half hearted attempt to copy a Salsa Fargo.
> > > > > Without the extra standover.
>
> > > > > Yes, I'm upset about this. �Will probably end up losing a lot of money
> > > > > selling off my frame without building it up. �Not something I can live
> > > > > happily with.
>
> > > > > Sigh.
>
> > > > > Eric Platt
> > > > > St. Paul, MN
>
> > > > Eric,
>
> > > > If Riv makes the change, I would just call them. �I would not be 
> > > > suprised if
> > > > they were willing to refund your deposit if you are truly unhappy with 
> > > > the
> > > > change to the top tube.
>
> > > > Dan Abelson
> > > > St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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