Originally an upper middle class '70s 10 speed. I bought the frame to build as a fixed gear errand beater, but the bike has suffered from upgrade-itis, as you can tell.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > patrick, > i am curious about your motobecane. did that bike have a rear der. > originally? or, was that a 3-speed? > > don c. > > On Dec 29, 9:17 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know, as I am somewhat familiar > with > > the Paselas: that the GBs is a quality, fast tire that would improve > ride > > quality and, one hopes, even my speed. > > > > Does anyone else want to comment on the GBs? > > > > My Motobecane beater is going to turn into one darn nice bike. Photo > here: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#54188256600146... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:57 PM, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > patrick, > > > i have never tried paselas, but reading their description, it seems > > > that paselas are more of a tough,durable tire. the grand bois is > > > really a 28c version of a really supple racing tire. the two tires are > > > designed with different goals. the pasela is tougher, the grand bois > > > is lighter and rolls better. if i were doing those awesome so-cal > > > offroad rides, the pasela is my choice. if i am riding in the "gold > > > country foothills" of northern calif. on marginal pavement, i will > > > take my grand bois. > > > don c. > > > > > On Dec 29, 8:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > But how do the GBs compare to Paselas (for example) or other 28s? Are > > > they > > > > more supple? To Don and other users. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:35 PM, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > patrick, > > > > > another thing to consider is rim width. wider rims allow for lower > > > > > pressures. HED has some new wheelsets that have wider rims and you > run > > > > > 23c tires at 85-90lbs. i have velocity aeroheads and they are > relative > > > > > narrow. the old apples to oranges problem. i did experiment with a > > > > > wider set of velocity rims with grand bois 700x30 tires and did > like > > > > > them. they felt like mud compared to my 28c setup. everybody is > > > > > different. bottom line for me, talking to grant p. enlightened me > to a > > > > > new outlook on cycling and in a very positive way. > > > > > don c. > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 8:12 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:06 PM, dpco < > dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > i have been using grand bois 700X28 tires for a couple of years. > > > > > > > > How do these compare with the Paselas? I'm mostly familiar with > the > > > > > 559X32 > > > > > > mm Paselas, which I didn't find hugely fast or comfortable; > certainly > > > not > > > > > as > > > > > > supple as the, alas, much skinnier 559X1 Turbos. But the Paselas > felt > > > to > > > > > me > > > > > > like a utility tire. If the GBs are more supple than the Paselas, > > > and, > > > > > #2, > > > > > > if they are reasonably durable, I'd be interested in putting the > GB > > > 28s > > > > > on > > > > > > the Motobecane -- for me, true 28 mm is quite fat and just what I > > > want > > > > > for > > > > > > rough pavement, firm dirt and load carrying. > > > > > > > > > [...]. i weigh 170 and pump up the fronts 75lbs. and the rears > > > 85lbs. i > > > > > > > even tried lower and have never had a pinch flat. for me, those > > > > > pressures > > > > > > > seem to be the best combo. > > > > > > > > That seems high to me. I'm 170 too and I run my 29 mm actual (on > the > > > new > > > > > > Alex DH19 rims; 30 mm labeled) IRC Tandems at 70/80, even with > heavy > > > rear > > > > > > loads, and that feels rough over bumps -- I just rode home on the > > > > > Motobecane > > > > > > after pumping up the front, with very slow leak, to 70, and the > bike > > > > > jarred > > > > > > over expansion bumps. Light 531 frame, with long stays, too. What > do > > > the > > > > > > rest of you use for 700c X 28 mm tires? > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Patrick Moore > > > > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > > > > For professional resumes, contact > > > > > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > > > > (505) 227-0523 > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com><rbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib > e...@googlegroups.com><rbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib > > > e...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > > Patrick Moore > > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > > For professional resumes, contact > > > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > > (505) 227-0523 > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com><rbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib > e...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > (505) 227-0523 > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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