patrick,
i am curious about your motobecane. did that bike have a rear der.
originally? or, was that a 3-speed?

don c.

On Dec 29, 9:17 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know, as I am somewhat familiar with
> the Paselas:  that the GBs is a quality, fast tire that would improve ride
> quality and, one hopes, even my speed.
>
> Does anyone else want to comment on the GBs?
>
> My Motobecane beater is going to turn into one darn nice bike. Photo here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#54188256600146...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:57 PM, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > patrick,
> > i have never tried paselas, but reading their description, it seems
> > that paselas are more of a tough,durable tire. the grand bois is
> > really a 28c version of a really supple racing tire. the two tires are
> > designed with different goals. the pasela is tougher, the grand bois
> > is lighter and rolls better. if i were doing those awesome so-cal
> > offroad rides, the pasela is my choice. if i am riding in the "gold
> > country foothills" of northern calif. on marginal pavement, i will
> > take my grand bois.
> > don c.
>
> > On Dec 29, 8:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > But how do the GBs compare to Paselas (for example) or other 28s? Are
> > they
> > > more supple? To Don and other users.
>
> > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:35 PM, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > patrick,
> > > > another thing to consider is rim width. wider rims allow for lower
> > > > pressures. HED has some new wheelsets that have wider rims and you run
> > > > 23c tires at 85-90lbs. i have velocity aeroheads and they are relative
> > > > narrow. the old apples to oranges problem. i did experiment with a
> > > > wider set of velocity rims with grand bois 700x30 tires and did like
> > > > them. they felt like mud compared to my 28c setup. everybody is
> > > > different. bottom line for me, talking to grant p. enlightened me to a
> > > > new outlook on cycling and in a very positive way.
> > > > don c.
>
> > > > On Dec 29, 8:12 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:06 PM, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > i have been using grand bois 700X28 tires for a couple of years.
>
> > > > > How do these compare with the Paselas? I'm mostly familiar with the
> > > > 559X32
> > > > > mm Paselas, which I didn't find hugely fast or comfortable; certainly
> > not
> > > > as
> > > > > supple as the, alas, much skinnier 559X1 Turbos. But the Paselas felt
> > to
> > > > me
> > > > > like a utility tire. If the GBs are more supple than the Paselas,
> > and,
> > > > #2,
> > > > > if they are reasonably durable, I'd be interested in putting the GB
> > 28s
> > > > on
> > > > > the Motobecane -- for me, true 28 mm is quite fat and just what I
> > want
> > > > for
> > > > > rough pavement, firm dirt and load carrying.
>
> > > > > > [...]. i weigh 170 and pump up the fronts 75lbs. and the rears
> > 85lbs. i
> > > > > > even tried lower and have never had a pinch flat. for me, those
> > > > pressures
> > > > > > seem to be the best combo.
>
> > > > > That seems high to me. I'm 170 too and I run my 29 mm actual (on the
> > new
> > > > > Alex DH19 rims; 30 mm labeled) IRC Tandems at 70/80, even with heavy
> > rear
> > > > > loads, and that feels rough over bumps -- I just rode home on the
> > > > Motobecane
> > > > > after pumping up the front, with very slow leak, to 70, and the bike
> > > > jarred
> > > > > over expansion bumps. Light 531 frame, with long stays, too. What do
> > the
> > > > > rest of you use for 700c X 28 mm tires?
>
> > > > > > .
>
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