MM

As far as the circus thing, I am with ya brotha.  I am 5' 11" with a
30 inch inseam and a PBH around 83mm  so I don't really fit the "norm"
either when I
read generalizations around what should fit a 6 footer.  I recently
purchased a modest Steel frameset (Handsome Devil) and wavered between
the "go big"
with a 58 cm or be conservative with a 55cm Frame.  Fortunately the 55
had a relatively long tt (57) so I went with it  added a healthy
amount of
spacers to the steerer tube and have been a happy Camper.

Hope you find a comfortable "city hauler" that won't attract the wrong
elements when you leave out in public

Roadie"aren't your legs a bit short for a 6 footer?"Ryan

On Nov 10, 2:41 pm, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> > -  but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth.  it's
> > nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> > heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> > quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.
>
> We'll have to agree to disagree on that fine point.    I don't think
> of the notion I offered as 'tossed around'.   I think folks who have
> tried Rivendell's sizing principles/notions tend to realize that
> however 'nice' having standover clearance is for all those purposes
> you list, it's *way* nicer to have a bike that is comfortable to ride,
> and furthermore, an inch or two of standover clearance is not missed
> at all in any of the aforementioned situations.
>
> I'm not saying we should be moving towards this:
>
> http://antiques.lovetoknow.com/images/Antiques/thumb/5/58/Bicycle_190...
>
> or any of these:
>
> http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/bike1.jpghttp://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmasto...http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/fry3.jpg
>
> But it sometimes is helpful to remember that normal can be relative,
> and necessity can be misunderstood.
>
> On Nov 10, 3:19 pm, Patrick in VT <psh...@drm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 9:57 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > When you say you cannot straddle it easily, do you mean that your
> > > 'crotch bone' (*bone* being the operative word) prevents you from
> > > having both feet on the ground (with shoes on)?   Because unless that
> > > is the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it.     Even if that
> > > *were* the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it.    In actual
> > > riding, rarely, IF EVER, do you need to straddle your top tube with
> > > both feet flat on the ground.
>
> > that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> > -  but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth.  it's
> > nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> > heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> > quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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