Perhaps you are unaware that Calfee is one of the top custom builders in
carbon, and the one who figured out how to repair it. His opinion
deserves the highest respect, as he is the top expert in the field.
On 07/27/2014 05:51 PM, Garth wrote:
I'm not speaking of "what was" or even what /appears /to be. All of
that is old news . So all arguments for what /appears/ to be , are for
nothing but more self imposed limitations.
And that's fine for those who want that :)
But everyone hungers for something . . . . and there is no hunger of
the imagination that does not go satiated !
Again, nothing exists . . .. *NOTHING* . . . that was not first
imagined to exist . Without the imagination , the hunger for
something greater that what /appears/ to be . . . . there is nothing
to experience .
On Sunday, July 27, 2014 5:37:15 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 07/27/2014 04:58 PM, Garth wrote:
>
> Oh .... idk . .. . I really wonder how many die hard steel
> enthusiasts would own a carbon(or some future iteration of it)
frame
> if they could get it the exact same dimensions as their fav steel
> version. With all the mounting points, etc.
Don't count on it. When BQ tested their first Calfee the question
was
raised about rack mounts, and Calfee provided a response in a side
bar:
if a bike falls over with a load on a rack, it puts an off-angle
stress
on the rack and mounting points. Carbon frames when subjected to
that
kind of stress tend to split, like a cane of bamboo. (In fact, I
know
two people in the local bike club who had carbon frames with
downtubes
that split when the bikes fell over with full water bottles.) So
Calfee
says mount a rack with a P-clamp, so that when the bike falls over
the
rack will shift rather than split the tube.
There's another issue as well: the economics of molded carbon (1st
copy
costs a million bucks, 2nd copy costs 10 cents) vs metal, where
1st, 2nd
and nth copy cost the same. Those Riv-style bikes just aren't as
popular these days as road racers, and the economics of low volume
production with carbon are punishing compared with metals.
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