Again, a very large *distinguo* that has nothing to do with terminological quibbling: I daresay (I accept it on faith; no evidence other than scuttle butt, but personally I think it is, *grosso modo*, true) that Specialized *can* build bikes out of CF that are stronger -- in the sense of lasting longer -- than of steel or "alloy" -- stupid name for aluminum; but the *actual* bikes *built *for dentists -- sorry, racers -- are not, from the anecdotal evidence, stronger than your garden variety Sam Hillborne.
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ron Mc <[email protected]> wrote: > that is a true statement. It would be false if he said carbon was much > tougher, because poor toughness is the problem with carbon. > > > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:57:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> What? The utterance of Specialized's marketing shill -- sorry, I meant, >> Company Representative -- didn't reassure you???!!! >> >> Chris Riekert, a spokesman for Specialized >> <http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes?gclid=CLahiKKi478CFQto7AodHl8A0w>, >> an American company that supplies bikes to three Tour teams, said in a >> statement, “Carbon gives our engineers the ability to produce *much >> stronger and *lighter products than traditional steel or alloy by >> letting us put more material in high stress areas to ensure performance and >> safety in real world riding conditions.” >> >> Seriously, all: let us scrupulously distinguish between carbon fiber >> itself and the stupid light paradigm. Jan Heine reviewed what looked to be >> a very practical and nice riding rando bike done in CF by Calfee in a >> recent issue of BQ. >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Anne Paulson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> As Technology Makes Bicycles Lighter and Faster, It’s the Cyclists >>> Falling Harder >>> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/sports/cycling/as- >>> technology-makes-bicycles-lighter-and-faster-it8217s- >>> the-cyclists-falling-harder.html?ref=sports&_r=0 >>> >>> “Anyone in a team who’s being honest with you will tell you how >>> frequently their bikes are breaking; everybody knows,” said Mark Greve, a >>> physician and assistant professor of sports medicine at Brown University >>> who studied injuries to 3,500 competitive cyclists. “Few people in the >>> public appreciate how many bikes a pro team will go through in a season, >>> because they break for one reason or another. The bikes, they completely >>> explode.” >>> >>> (The link might be gated. Try Googling the headline to find a free >>> source if you hit a paywall.) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- Anne Paulson >>> >>> It isn't a contest. 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