> I usually just leave the bike on the floor, straddle it, remove the
> top cap, loosen the stem and pull it off.

Admittedly a candidate for chief of mechanical doofosity, I have
managed to drop bikes doing less.  I have a lovely folding Park stand
and prefer using it whenever I am taking things off the bike.

On Dec 24, 12:18 pm, Atlantean <softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I usually just leave the bike on the floor, straddle it, remove the
> top cap, loosen the stem and pull it off. You can hold the hadlebar in
> one hand while moving spacers around with the other, and then put it
> all back together. I usually use a similar procedure when swapping
> stems, but you need to have the new stem in easy reach if you don't
> have anyone around to assist.
>
> On Dec 24, 11:07 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >  I'm a big guy, mostly ride fixed gear, and i like the idea of wrenching 
> > > on a bar/
> > > stem that's firmly clamped to the outside of a circular steel steerer
> > > tube more than one that is literally wedged into place.
>
> > I have bikes with either set up.  I always worry about the little
> > bolts holding the threadless stem as opposed to the big honking bolt
> > in the middle of the quill.
>
> > > I do think the "threadless stems make it harder to fine-tune the
> > > height adjustment" thing isn't as true as many make it out to be.
> > > Yes, you'll probably want to cut the steerer tube if there's excessive
> > > length above the stem and yes, you have to take the headset out of
> > > adjustment to adjust the height of the stem, but they make headset
> > > spacers down to 1mm and I doubt that any of you really adjust your
> > > stem in increments of less than a millimeter.  An advantage of
> > > threadless is that you always know by how much you're raising or
> > > lowering your bars- no measuring required!
>
> > Yeah, but you have to put the bike on the stand, put the bars
> > somewhere, take the ahead cap then stem off, fool with the spacers and
> > put it all back together.  On the other hand, I can stop in the middle
> > of a ride, pull out my trusty Park Y allen wrench and move the quill
> > up and down in a matter of seconds.
>
> > On Dec 24, 10:53 am, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Frankly, i'm a surprised that this topic has brought up so many
> > > arguments on both sides.  I always thought that 1" threaded headsets
> > > and quill stems were a Rivendell "thing," as integral to the identity
> > > of the bikes as steel and lugs (excepting the Legolas, of course). I
> > > wouldn't ask GP to change that. I'm cool with that and appreciate the
> > > bikes for other reasons, and I know that if i ever own one it'll
> > > probably have a threaded headset.
>
> > > I'm firmly in the threadless camp (3 bikes, all threadless, 2 even
> > > with the "illusive" 1" threadless!  no, headsets are not impossible to
> > > find, and most stems come with a shim to make it work), but i'll
> > > readily admit that my preference is mostly psychosomatic*.  I'm a big
> > > guy, mostly ride fixed gear, and i like the idea of wrenching on a bar/
> > > stem that's firmly clamped to the outside of a circular steel steerer
> > > tube more than one that is literally wedged into place.
>
> > > I do think the "threadless stems make it harder to fine-tune the
> > > height adjustment" thing isn't as true as many make it out to be.
> > > Yes, you'll probably want to cut the steerer tube if there's excessive
> > > length above the stem and yes, you have to take the headset out of
> > > adjustment to adjust the height of the stem, but they make headset
> > > spacers down to 1mm and I doubt that any of you really adjust your
> > > stem in increments of less than a millimeter.  An advantage of
> > > threadless is that you always know by how much you're raising or
> > > lowering your bars- no measuring required!
>
> > > *It does help to have Jobst reinforcing my 
> > > preference:http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html-Hide 
> > > quoted text -
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