John, the stem I was using with the Albatross was an old Cinelli "7"
stem, down as low as it would go. It actually looked pretty good, but
I could not get the grips level with the saddle without removing the
stock spacers and cutting the fork. Even then it might not have gotten
the job done. The combination of old Bridgestone M bar and Periscopa
stem puts the grip area at the same level as the saddle. I did try the
steel Albatross upside down, but it looked goofy and still required a
very long extension. 160mm would not have been too long. The old M bar
solved all those problems and actually works best with the Periscopa.
If a Nitto "7" type stem had been called for, then that's what would
be on there.

7 stems look fine in their natural element, but I would need them to
be raised up high with anything but an Albatross on an Atlantis, and
that looks silly to me and also just makes the whole system more
flexible. Lots of people think that setup looks great; more power to
'em! It's their bike!

On Dec 24, 7:52 am, John McMurry <johnmcmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 24, 1:06 am, Atlantean <softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem, and I really really don't like the
> > looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't think
> > so.
>
> In all seriousness, and in no way bruskly; if you don't like 7-shaped
> stems and you don't like stems with even less rise (track stems), you
> must be using a riser stem...right?
>
> And so, if you have a problem with getting the bars down low enough,
> the problem isn't with the type of steertube you have: I think it's
> your aesthetic choices determining how high your bars are.
>
> That said, I find conveniences to both setups.
>
> John McMurry
> Burlington, VT
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