> Back to quill versus Aheadset: I think I'd choose an Aheadset for a new
> custom, with a custom stem so that I would not have to use spacers. Or
> perhaps custom made spacer to avoid the "rings on the neck" look.

Guess I am the opposite.

My first custom is threadless.  I ultimately had a custom stem made
for it that does not require spacers.  Its beautiful, but came at an
additional $450.00.

My second custom I specified threadless.  The builder double checked
as most of his customers ask for threadless.  For the record, builder
and I are both very happy with how it turned out.

On Dec 24, 10:55 am, "PATRICK MOORE" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:26 PM, John McMurry <johnmcmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, here in the Northeast, that doesn't fly.
>
> > If you ride in the rain, in the snow, in the mud, or dirt around here
> > for several thousand a year, annual maintenance is necessary; unless
> > you're willing to dispose of these parts a couple years later.
>
> I rode in plenty of rain with cheap steel components (Kenya, early '70s,
> Delhi, late '60s) and never had a stem jam.
>
> Oh well, perhaps your riding is different from mine.
>
> Back to quill versus Aheadset: I think I'd choose an Aheadset for a new
> custom, with a custom stem so that I would not have to use spacers. Or
> perhaps custom made spacer to avoid the "rings on the neck" look.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kayan_woman_with_neck_rings.jpg
>
> Now here is a useful question: let's say you absolutely refused to have
> steerer sticking up above your stem, as any good Christian and gentleman
> would. So you leave, let's say, 2" of steerer poking up above the upper
> bearing race. Fine. Now could one not make a stem with a collar that clamped
> on this 2" portion but rose higher, being in effect a quill that clamped on
> the outside of the steerer?
>
> Better yet, why not a system whereby you have such an external, clamping
> quill with a separate stem that clamps to said quill, so that you can
> replace said quills to raise and lower without the humiliation of having
> spacers on top of your stem? You'd lose much of the simplicity of the
> threadless system, yet it still would be simpler than the old quill system.
>
> I think I personally would have a new custom threadless stem made.
>
> Patrick "despite my loquacity on the subject, have no dog fighting in it"
> Moore
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